I am currently taking my first prohormone cycle. I am taking ErgoPahrm 1-AD 300mg a day. 2nd week plenty of added streangth. I want to stack the remaining 4 weeks with 4-AD. Could someone recommend the right 4-AD for this stack and possibly dosages. I am looking for a good 10lb mass gain.
Also. I am 30, 225lbs, 6'4". Currently Low bodyfat
Posted by: dg806
If you go oral 4-ad you will need 800-1200mg a day! I would go with a transdermal. Avant makes a great one!
Posted by: deadlift
Anyone have any experience with stacking ErgoPahrm 1-AD with VPX 4-Test?
Posted by: dg806
The 4 hydroxy-test is being talked about giving lean gains. With 1-ad you are already getting that. 4-ad will add bulk. It depends on what you want.
Posted by: dg806
If you want mass like you stated, the 4/ad will suit you better!
Posted by: bigswole30
I think he meant VPX 4-test cyp aka 4-ad.
Posted by: dg806
??? That is too new..not many people know of that yet?
Posted by: bigswole30
The cypionated ph's have been out for a while now. It is the 4-hydroxytest that is new.
Posted by: deadlift
One of my gym associates has put on 12lbs in two weeks stacking 1-TEST and 4-TEST by VPX. I just cant find any solid proof online on the validity of this product. It worked for him...i have seen it. Of course he could be juicing too
1-AD definitely works but I have read a lot about the added benefit and gains from 4-AD. Any good oral products out there? mag-10? 4-AD stack by ErgoPharm? Anyone have experience with those?
Posted by: bigswole30
Mag-10 is decent, but way over priced. Ergo puts out Androdiol 300. You need high doses to see efects from oral 4-ad. I would go with VPX Syngex1(1-test/4-ad) or Primotest from LMR. I just started a cycle of LMR Primotest(1-test prop) and AMR Decatest(4-ad/19nor) today.
Posted by: gopro
One guy here at VPX...a former juicer...just finished an 8 week cycle of JUST 1-Test cyp and added 20 lbs! No joke, no hype! He doesn't like the way 4-AD makes him feel so he didn't stack the two. I can only imagine if he did.
I think his results were EXTRAordinary, but still, pretty damn cool to get even half that!
Posted by: rock4832
I'm a little past 2 weeks on 1-test by VPX and 4-ad by biotest. So far I'm not impressed with them. I've also changed my diet about the same time too (cut out all sugars) so I don't know. I want to try the 1-ad next cycle.
