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Originally posted by gr81 b/c I like oral sex, thats why |
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Originally posted by Fade You like enough to have a girl with HIV suck you off? |
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Originally posted by gr81 No, there is no way to know really what she has though, so are you supposed to never get with a girl?? |
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Originally posted by Mudge Abstinence or having a girlfriend that you know is safe is a pretty good idea IMO. Of course it may not be cool but I really give a flying fuck what others think of my "boring" choices in life. Casual sex has never been attractive enough for me to partake in it. |
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Originally posted by Vvitto Even your orhtodox approach is not 100%.. If your steady GF has just one little adventure with some dude who migh be infected with some STD or hepatitis, your "bullet-proof" sex life is gonna be altered... Nothing is safe... It happened to very straight and faithful people whose spouse/GF managed to stray away and get teh STD in the house.. As for myself I have been always a player ...condom has to be in place though.... Thus, even your "boring" life wont shelter you from anything...your cahnce are just lower than those who like casual sex...but not 100%... |
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Originally posted by Vvitto Even your orhtodox approach is not 100%.. If your steady GF has just one little adventure with some dude who migh be infected with some STD or hepatitis, your "bullet-proof" sex life is gonna be altered... Nothing is safe... It happened to very straight and faithful people whose spouse/GF managed to stray away and get teh STD in the house.. As for myself I have been always a player ...condom has to be in place though.... Thus, even your "boring" life wont shelter you from anything...your cahnce are just lower than those who like casual sex...but not 100%... |
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Originally posted by OceanDude Vvitto - would you go to vegas and place your life on the line on a roll of a 10 sided dice for nine chances to get a endorphin rush for 10 seconds and 1 chance to get killed? Condoms have a 1 in 10 chance of failure!! Personally I value my life a hell of a lot more than that and frankly you will completely forget the “rush” of that skin deep relationship within about 10 minutes. Wake up and smell the coffee. You start rolling the old dice with a "partner" that likes similar high odds with many other like minded "partners” (some of them hitting both ways) and the chances of you contacting some sort of STD, including AIDS (not to mention possibly pregnancy and life/liability issues) rapidly become geometric and are pretty certain in the long run. |
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Originally posted by MtnBikerChk man, you have issues. |
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Originally posted by Vvitto If your steady GF has just one little adventure with some dude who migh be infected with some STD or hepatitis, your "bullet-proof" sex life is gonna be altered... |
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Originally posted by gr81 hold on damnit, why is everyone getting down on Vvitto b/c he wants to get pussy. It seems like i have to step in here and be the voice of reason once again. I know people who have thought that their girl was monogomous and they ended up with something b/c of her creepin behind his back and such, nothing is fail safe. Is that what life has come down to, being forced to keep our penis' in our pants at all times. All you can do is use protection and use good judgment. Nothing is 100% unless you stay abstinent all your life. If he is using protection than why does he has issues? having a long relationship with one girl isn't for everybody, or maybe it is later in life. |
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Originally posted by Stickboy Personally, I believe your attitude is dangerous and self serving, but to each his own. Just don't come crying for my tax dollars if you get "bit". Fair enough, eh? |
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Originally posted by Vvitto They think that a mongamous life would save their cock/pussy from STD...whereas, folks like me who like "change" are definitely going to end up with HIV.. |
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Originally posted by Mudge Common sense tells me the chances are much better if I dont play the game. Does that not make sense to you? |
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Originally posted by Vvitto Do you guys got the meaning of my post? I have stated that even a mogamous relationship is not 100% free of potenttial STD ... ... AS far as I am concerned please do not preach me...I know the risks... To each their own... |
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Originally posted by gr81 hey OD, It must bew nice to sit up there on yor high horse and look down upon us less worthy human beings huh? it ain't his job to convince you all that his way of life is superior, unlike what you are trying to do. Why should he conform to what you think is right, b/c you think it is right?? fuck that, all he can do is be safe and responsible, anything less than that is stupid, but he doesn't have to conform to some form of monogomy b/c you think it is right. He wants to fuck different girls, there is nothing wrong with that, don't belittle him b/c he doesn't share your views, that is pretty presumptious of you. |
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Originally posted by OceanDude Hoboy. What credibility do you think you have when you immediately start throwing childish insults around and calling people “ignorant” when you apparently can’t do the math? Further, I have never heard anyone ever make an intelligent analogy between “casino odds’ and “preaching”. What an oxymoronic and defensive perspective you have. You obviously want to put your head in the sand on the issue since your attitude is clearly self defeating, irresponsible and dangerous to society at large. You must be incapable of understanding the “math” and the difference in magnitudes between a 10% failure rate with partners of like promiscuous mind and a committed relationship with someone (you should know well and have some influence with) failing the trust. What little contribution you have made to the argument about monogamous relationships not being “fool proof” are completely lost in your failure to acknowledge the difference in magnitude and your tendency of rapid flight to defensive banter; a clear sign of immaturity and poor intellectual capacity. I’ll tell you what. I won’t “preach” to you if you don’t ask me and the rest of society to put money in your collection basket to pay for STD prevention, disease treatment and burial fees or pollute the gene pool with the left over flotsam and jetsam 60’s attitudes you cling to. |
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Originally posted by Vvitto I really dont have time for your petty and fiddle-faddle arguments.. Btter hope that your Gf doesnt come to my dick.... What a cocksucker you are mon petit.. ... |
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Originally posted by Vvitto I really dont have time for your petty and fiddle-faddle arguments.. Btter hope that your Gf doesnt come to my dick.... What a cocksucker you are mon petit.. ... |
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Originally posted by gr81 hey OD, It must bew nice to sit up there on yor high horse and look down upon us less worthy human beings huh? |
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Originally posted by OceanDude Alas, you are on to me. I was counting on tying you up for a bit longer in this discussion and furthering the chance of saving you and possibly others from you r own self destructive behavior. |
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Originally posted by Vvitto Dude, are you for real? "saving you and possibly others from you r own self destructive behavior. " Do I need to reply to this prudish and condescending comment? Kudos to you monogamous dude/dudess (sp)...but spare me with your pristine philossphy (sp) as to how and where I stick my schlong... To each their own hole.... |
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Originally posted by OceanDude ”To each their own hole…”. This utterance is ambiguous and requires clarification. Are you implying here that you are also homosexual or are you suggesting we all should be holistically inclined to self indulgence and self pleasure like you?
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Originally posted by Vvitto What a pretentious boor you are , Dorothy... IS that your ugly mug in your avatar? Now I finally get you ...you are a frigging faggot ..no wonder you dont like pussy. It is OK, Dorothy to come out of the closet ... Do you like to be spanked? Too bad that I am so hetero ....anyway to each their own hole, whatever that might be.. |
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Originally posted by Mudge Opinions differ, but I think "having to" resort to calling someone a faggot is pretty lame as far as arguments go. |
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Originally posted by Mudge Opinions differ, but I think "having to" resort to calling someone a faggot is pretty lame as far as arguments go. |
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Originally posted by OceanDude No I am not real I am a punk with no social life but time to waste on the net... ”To each their own hole…”. This utterance is ambiguous and requires clarification. Are you implying here that I am a also homosexual or are you suggesting we all should be holistically inclined to self indulgence and self pleasure like you?
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Originally posted by Vvitto Listen Ocean fag -the-dude alias Dorothy, First of all you should answer to the original topic. Second, you should stop patronizing and critique my way of fucking and screwing around as I dont (sp) need your moronic and prudish philosphy (sp)as to how many time I stick my dick in multiple vaginas...I guess you are just envious as to my virility and you feel sorry for your lame sex life...your avatar reeks gaynees (sp)and ugliness... Third, your whole choice of words show how much of a pimpled-ass geek you are and how much you enjoy posing as a pretentious boor with tendency towards elitism...elitism my ass, just a sore loser whose own sexuality has bottomed out...poor little penis....you have just become a bottom now..no pun intended. Last, please stop stalking me and refrain from preaching fagotry (sp)101 as you really got the wrong mofo (sp) to mess with. PS> Please change that hideous avatar...you make me puke... PS2> Are yo a bottom? Bi? Or just plain stupid... I really enjoy toying with you as I like to play with my toys till they brek apart.... |
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Originally posted by gr81 Hey OD, do you honestly think that if you make a drawn out, highly worded post full of manuscia (sp), all while avoiding my original comments that you are condemning him for not falling under your train of thought, the supposed (sp) "right and moral" train of thought, that I will be impressed? You and your long winded posts full of dribble are of no meaning, other than a desperate attempt to advocate the image that you are smarter than you really are. Do not assume anything, you should nk (?) that and yet again you are making pressumtptions (sp), thinking that b/c I advocate him sleeping with a higher number of partners than 1, that I am indeed telling him to do generally whatever he wants in life whenever he wants, however he wants. Not the case, instead I was just mearly (sp)making the simple point that you are judgemental (sp)and consider yourself a better person b/c you don't sleep with many woman. That is your choice and no one is harping you for it, give him the same respect. My name has nothing to do with this conversion, nor do I care what you think about my posts. You have been on my ignore list longer than I have yours, believe that. I have 4 words for you to consider when posting here, GET TO THE POINT. you have some intelligent things to say, it is too bad that you try and write a novel each time you respond to something. |
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Originally posted by OceanDude Vvitto, I need your help ...My GF wants you as my sexual perfomrance is very poor..till then I am gonna try out some men |
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Originally posted by OceanDude Gr81, I have pretty much given up on you. Do you really think I have any desire or anything to gain by trying to impress you? Jeeezus you are vain. You lack the intellectual maturity to even understand the difference between rational based argument and moral based argument. If you are going to try to play the role of custos morum get a consistent philosophical basis and then look in the mirror and practice what you preach if you want any credibility and respect from me. With the poor teaching credentials and TV attitudes nowadays it’s probably not completely your fault but you have what appears to be a terminal case of liberalism. It completely blinds you to the hypocrisy that you keep regurgitating. How can you in good conscience pick and chose your morality like a fat man at a smorgasbord looking only for the sweets and then grovel and beg for proxied respect and consideration simultaneous with you encouraging another to acts that contribute to his own harm? Wow – open your eyes young man to the utter ridiculousness of your own hypocritical context. When did I ever state that I felt I was a “better person”. The answer is I did not – you judged that yourself by your own feelings of self inadequacy you hypocrite. You have the gall to call me “judgmental” for presenting medical and statistical based facts? Did I say he was "going to hell" or say “do like me because I am better”? No. I can’t be responsible for the contrast that exists between night and day any more than a taller man can be responsible for casting a shadow on those beneath him. It’s just not practical nor dignified to crawl around on one’s knees all day for the comfort of the creatures that crawl on the ground. Some things are a consequence of existence. So don’t accuse me falsely because you know what the moral punishment is for that (if you really believe in religious law as you imply with moral arguments). What is even more irrational is that you imply from a moral perspective that any form of “judgment” is somehow wrong. This is a naively understood religious notion as it applies to religious law. It is completely distorted by what I call the “liberal buffet moralists” (such as you appear to be) that only know how to glom on to the catchy one-liner religious themes without even understanding the instructional context; much less, actually believing in and personally practicing the very same religious principals and teaching. You might want to ask any teacher, insurance salesman, mortgage broker or judge if they think it’s wrong to judge when giving grades, rates and penal sentences. If I were judging right now you would have an “F” in rational thinking. But the whole moral point is irrelevant for the previously stated reasons. But since you opened moralistic judgment to the debate I am now at liberty to hold you to your own standard – and suffer it you will. This is where the liberal mind fails miserably since it always wants to hold others to moral standards but never to themselves. What is most ironic is that you have clearly demonstrated in your poor advice here (and elsewhere) that you are not even a very religious person. So why do you “pick and chose” religious themes and throw them at me in a discussion about health in the context of civil behavior? You are mixing philosophical apples and oranges once again. Go sit in the corner young man and don’t disturb me until you learn how to differentiate between the two. By the way, because I do operate to a moral code I have to write long replies to your silly banter. I have a moral obligation to point out your fallacies so you can possibly learn – as futile as it seems to be. Sadly I must at times be harsher than I might otherwise be to get through to you. |
I find it almost amusing that its still going on, so much wasted energy, however minute it may be.
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Originally posted by Mudge Come on guys, is this even amusing anymore? I find it almost amusing that its still going on, so much wasted energy, however minute it may be.
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Originally posted by Vvitto At least you sound like a man of reasoning... The whole thread has degenerated into a futile debate due to our new member--OD--who thought that by posting lengthy, boring and wannabesmart posts, would draw the attention of our members. Why couldnt he just have a simple and knowlegeable answer to my original question? Do I need a sex ed lesson? I am in my 30's and been around the block , thus his lame attitude doesnt impress me at all .... I have to admit that some of my remarks were somehow unortodox but ...such is life... this is the net and we have to roll with the punches .. Fasten your seat belt for antoher non-sense tirade from OD... |
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Originally posted by Mudge Come on guys, is this even amusing anymore? I find it almost amusing that its still going on, so much wasted energy, however minute it may be.
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Originally posted by OceanDude It was extremely amusing up to the point that he convinced me he was insane or had the mind of a 12 year old. I was unsure at first but it became clear in his next to last post. So, at this point I have to ignore his foaming at the mouth lunacy or risk being called cruel to the pathetic and mentally ill. But now that I have irrefutably established this fact someone with admin authority should really consider putting him out of his misery to preserve the sanity of the place. |
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Originally posted by Vvitto Cause they are ignorants and uninformed.... |
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Originally posted by Pepper Let me get this straight....you just called people involved in monogamous relationships ignorant and uninformed? Unbelievable. |
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Originally posted by OceanDude Pepper, Don’t bother with Vvitto he is having a bad day and has a tendency to foam at the mouth. I had my associates from the Dorothy Commission check him out. They came up with this IR scan of his apartment during one of his recent episodes. They caught him in this classic pose foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog at his PC composing one of the above messages. I ended up having to put him on ignore since I could not stop from laughing at work. I additionally captured some of his more amusing quotes as a condensed collage for my personal collection. It’s pretty classic. It will spare you from having to read it all from scratch. I am going to put this on the wall at the office – everyone will get a kick out of it. Famous Vvitto Quotes or the Rantings of a Mad Man? (in random order – and with original unedited spelling errors) “Is oral sex dangerous as to HIV?” “Could one get infected with HIV if he performs oral sex?” “Do I need a sex ed lesson?” “...you are a frigging faggot” “show how much of a pimpled-ass geek you are” “To each their own hole....” “You reek geekness (sp)...” “you lack the ability of having a normal sex life..” “Do you like to be spanked?” “I wont settle for a boring life ....” “you have just become a bottom now..” “I know the risks and I try to deal with the elements...” “I wont settle for a boring life ....” “Btter (sp)hope that your Gf doesnt (sp)come to my dick....” “What a cocksucker you are mon (ed: bon?) petit.. ...” “Cause they are ignorants (sp) and uninformed....” “Could one get infected with HIV if he performs oral sex?” “....anyway to each their own hole, whatever that might be..” “Do I need a sex ed lesson?” “I guess you are just envious as to my virility” “this is the net and we have to roll with the punches ..” “Put me on ignore, pathetic jerk...” “I have been around longer ...” “Answer the questions!” “stop stalking me “ “I am expecting a thorough reply...dont (sp) disappoint me...” “Put me on ignore, pathetic jerk...” “As for me I dont (sp) give a fuck if my chances of STD are higher than a monogamous couple....I just like to fuck the shit out of chicks who come onto me...” “Is oral sex dangerous as to HIV?” “Do I need a sex ed lesson? “ |
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Originally posted by Vvitto The pic suits perfectly Ocean dude the ED boy...after he has just caught his wife in bed with Mr.Vvitto... IS ED affecting your life so bad that you settle as a rebound for this outlet, i.e., Iron Magazine fittness site? Does it hurt being incapable of a quality sex? Do you still envy my manliness? Are you falling in love with me? I love toying with you , my dear moron.... |
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Originally posted by OceanDude Gr81, I have pretty much given up on you. Do you really think I have any desire or anything to gain by trying to impress you? Jeeezus you are vain. You lack the intellectual maturity to even understand the difference between rational based argument and moral based argument. If you are going to try to play the role of custos morum get a consistent philosophical basis and then look in the mirror and practice what you preach if you want any credibility and respect from me. With the poor teaching credentials and TV attitudes nowadays it’s probably not completely your fault but you have what appears to be a terminal case of liberalism. It completely blinds you to the hypocrisy that you keep regurgitating. How can you in good conscience pick and chose your morality like a fat man at a smorgasbord looking only for the sweets and then grovel and beg for proxied respect and consideration simultaneous with you encouraging another to acts that contribute to his own harm? Wow – open your eyes young man to the utter ridiculousness of your own hypocritical context. When did I ever state that I felt I was a “better person”. The answer is I did not – you judged that yourself by your own feelings of self inadequacy you hypocrite. You have the gall to call me “judgmental” for presenting medical and statistical based facts? Did I say he was "going to hell" or say “do like me because I am better”? No. I can’t be responsible for the contrast that exists between night and day any more than a taller man can be responsible for casting a shadow on those beneath him. It’s just not practical nor dignified to crawl around on one’s knees all day for the comfort of the creatures that crawl on the ground. Some things are a consequence of existence. So don’t accuse me falsely because you know what the moral punishment is for that (if you really believe in religious law as you imply with moral arguments). What is even more irrational is that you imply from a moral perspective that any form of “judgment” is somehow wrong. This is a naively understood religious notion as it applies to religious law. It is completely distorted by what I call the “liberal buffet moralists” (such as you appear to be) that only know how to glom on to the catchy one-liner religious themes without even understanding the instructional context; much less, actually believing in and personally practicing the very same religious principals and teaching. You might want to ask any teacher, insurance salesman, mortgage broker or judge if they think it’s wrong to judge when giving grades, rates and penal sentences. If I were judging right now you would have an “F” in rational thinking. But the whole moral point is irrelevant for the previously stated reasons. But since you opened moralistic judgment to the debate I am now at liberty to hold you to your own standard – and suffer it you will. This is where the liberal mind fails miserably since it always wants to hold others to moral standards but never to themselves. What is most ironic is that you have clearly demonstrated in your poor advice here (and elsewhere) that you are not even a very religious person. So why do you “pick and chose” religious themes and throw them at me in a discussion about health in the context of civil behavior? You are mixing philosophical apples and oranges once again. Go sit in the corner young man and don’t disturb me until you learn how to differentiate between the two. By the way, because I do operate to a moral code I have to write long replies to your silly banter. I have a moral obligation to point out your fallacies so you can possibly learn – as futile as it seems to be. Sadly I must at times be harsher than I might otherwise be to get through to you. |
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Originally posted by reefkeeper23 threads like this friggin suck. I'm all for intelligent, civilized debate, but when the boards get clogged with bashing like this, it's a nothing but a waste of bandwith. OD, very well spoken; at least you are capable of making mature, intelligable arguments. Moderators should have locked this flamefest long ago....
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Originally posted by Vvitto Kissing up to ocean dude the ED boy, well...is downright pathetic.. |
