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Posted by: Ahsan

HI 2 ALL MY FRINEDZ,
I M A NEWBIE 2 BODYBUILDING. I M QUITE SKINNY GUY. I M 15 YRS OLD & 6'1'' TALL & WEIGH AS PETITE GIRL ABOUT 130 LBS AND I THINKING OF TAKING STEROIDS FOR SHORT PERIOD & WHEN I GROW LITTLE BIGGER I 'LL STOP. IS THERE ANY SIDE EFFECTS AND IF I STOP USING THEM WILL I LOSE MY MUSCLES OR NOT.

PLZ HELP ME & SHARE UR SUGGESTIONS

Posted by: Mudge

Side effects you will stop growing dude, your 15. 6'1" is a pretty good height but any other bone growth will also cease, and I am going to guess your frame probably is not very large. With or without drugs you need to EAT, in fact on steroids you need to eat more than naturally and it sounds like your not eating at all.

No matter how fast your metabolism is if you can't gain naturally by eating your way there then you dont belong using. This is a bit of a methedology/science, and if you dont get your ducks in a row then you probably are going to be the type to suffer side effects and not be happy with your gains.

Posted by: Ahsan

WOULD U PLZ TELL ME SIR WHAT KIND OF SIDE EFFECTS WILL BE
I M TAKING THEM BCZ I M VERY SKINNY. MY FRIENDS MAKE FUN OF ME

Posted by: Ahsan

thats the reason i ve meintioned above i m thinking of taking them
if i try to be on my diet wat should i eat. i know i ve to eat 5-6time. and i m eating hardly 4 big meals. if i stop growing never mind.
plz help me to walk 2 the right track

Posted by: Mudge

I would start by adding 750 calories to what you eat every day. I would go for 1.2g protein per pound of bodyweight or thereabouts.

So, get in your protein (130x1.2 = 156grams), spread it out over 5-6 meals a day as evenly as you can. Balance your meals!

Count how many calories you eat now and start adding too it, or simply take 750 calories of known food and add it to your diet.

Protein = 4 calories per gram
Carbs = 4 calories per gram
Fats = 9 calories per gram

You gain weight from what you put in your mouth, and you HOLD your bodyweight from what you put in your mouth. Once you gain weight you will have to continue to eat more than you used to in order to continue to hold that bodyweight or you will lose it.

Steroids wont do anything for you without a HIGH calorie diet, especially if you are already skinny.

If you can get meat, rice/bread/potato/pasta and milk, those should be good growing foods for you as far as gaining weight.

Posted by: Ahsan

HOW CAN I KNOW THAT HOW MUCH CALORIES I M CONSUMING
THX A LOT MUDGE U R A NICE GUY
PLZ RPLY

Posted by: Mudge

Count it, thats how you know. Do you have labeling laws in your country? Does it list how many calories per serving on the back of packages?

http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart1.html

Posted by: gr81

this has got to be bogus, but if it isn't then bro do not take drugs at your age, bottom line

Posted by: Just a guy

yeh man... i totally agree KEEP GROWING wait till your 18 man ATLEAST... i know many of short guys because they started taking roids and QUIT GROWING it makes your bones Seize up... PERMANTLY

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally posted by gr81
this has got to be bogus, but if it isn't then bro do not take drugs at your age, bottom line

I agree, sounds like a stupid joke.

BUT, if he's serious...Taking steroids at the age of 15 is absolutely absurd!

EAT, lift, and eat some more.

Posted by: Just a guy

get some weight gainer main! eat 300 grams of protein... that should be straight since u weigh 130... maybe more... just dont want to over load your shit... its just the thing with roids... it uses protein better... so you can eat more.... But no roids... 300 max

Posted by: Mudge

"Food is your primary anabolic."

Posted by: oaktownboy

Quote:

Originally posted by Ahsan
HI 2 ALL MY FRINEDZ,
I M A NEWBIE 2 BODYBUILDING. I M QUITE SKINNY GUY. I M 15 YRS OLD & 6'1'' TALL & WEIGH AS PETITE GIRL ABOUT 130 LBS AND I THINKING OF TAKING STEROIDS FOR SHORT PERIOD & WHEN I GROW LITTLE BIGGER I 'LL STOP. IS THERE ANY SIDE EFFECTS AND IF I STOP USING THEM WILL I LOSE MY MUSCLES OR NOT.

PLZ HELP ME & SHARE UR SUGGESTIONS

Are u shitting is dawg?Your 15 and want to take steroids.You obviosuly have not been reading much on this site or have not done any research at all.You're 15 for christ sake. You're still growing. why run the risk of premature closure of your epiphyseal plates?just eat bro

Posted by: crackerjack414

yup mudge the most anabolic stubstance on the planet is food by far. Just an interesting side note I know a few guys who were true ectos who got into bodybuilding about 10 years ago. They were probely 160 at around 5"11. Now they are around 250+ it seems like there bodys have realy adapted to the load of carrying all that extra weight around

Posted by: Ahsan

thx a lot rply guys u let me 2 walk 2 the right track
wat sort of training program should i use that provide me gains like steroids users
actually i wanna tell u guys that i was 110 before 2 months and i gained 20 lbs in two months and even in these two months i didnt eat enough.whatever i gained 20 lbs in two months without eating enough. i often waste my testorene will it effect to my bodybuilding carrer.
ANY SUGESSTIONS PLZ

Posted by: Ahsan

hi guys
i cant eat enough bcz i m financially not so much strong

Posted by: Mudge

You wont gain weight without the food unfortunately, unless you eat alot of salt and then you'll gain water weight and of course you will have high blood pressure.

I dont spend that much money on food, its what you buy thats important. I dont know what the cost of food, or what food is like though in your part of the world.

Posted by: Just a guy

hold up?@?@?!!! ur not fiancially strong enough to eat enough?! so why are u spending your dough on roids?? jesus christ.... look man go get a big thing of whey protein and drink 300 grams of protein a day... it will last u like a month man for 39.95

Posted by: Just a guy

u can buy BULK chicken breast for cheap... GRILL them all on the grill and eat the bastards for a week or 2

Posted by: Mudge

Steroids probably costs nothing there, but unfortunately without the food you aren't going to go very far at all. Muscle is meat, meat is made up of protein, you can't build protein (meat) by injecting oil into your body if you are not eating the protein to make the meat.

Posted by: crackerjack414

my food bill is around 75$-100$
a week for just me. It takes a ton of good food to put on quality mass

Posted by: Mudge

Ok, lets compare it to a cars engine.

VE (Volumetric Efficiency) is your cars efficiency ratio per cubic inch or xx given volume, this would be our anabolic state (steroids, natural, etc)

If you have a very high VE then you need more air fuel than a lower VE engine, this is our food. To make horsepower you need more fuel/air (food), otherwise you dont get the horsepower (your mass, your bodyweight, etc).

Once you slap on your supercharger or turbocharger, not only do you need to increase the fuel but the air/fuel ratio at wide open also is increased, from say 13.0:1 or so on a normally aspirated WOT setup to 11.7-12.5:1 depending on the cars weight yada yada. This may only make sense to BO I'm not sure

So generally not only are you going to eat alot more on steroids, your going to eat ALOT MORE to get maximal results.

Protein for the muscle retention and raw calories to be able to sustain a given amount of bodyweight, without all of these the steroids aren't going to do much of anything but make you a little stronger and increase your anabolic state to some degree, which is worthless since you can't put the fuel into the machine to get more power out of it/weight

Posted by: Sirliftsalot

Hey Ahsan, Dont sweat it. When I was 15 I was 6'1'' And wrestled in the 132 lb weight class. If I had gear then I would have taken it and regreated it. Your friends wont always make fun of you if you eat like a horse and train hard.Buy some of Joe Weiders weight training books and start doing a proper lifting routine.With your naturally lean body and natural output of test. you will be stoked in less than six months.
Im now 30 years old 6'2'' 255lbs and none of my friends make fun of me. Body building is a game of hard work, patience and education there are no real short cuts.
Good luck bro.

Posted by: Ahsan

HI GUYZ
now i will show u my foods what i eat.HERE THe things which i eat in breakfast, lunch, after workout or snacks and last dinner
BREAKFAST
2 whole eggs, 1 cup milk,oatmeal ( a cup), 3 bananas.
LUNCH
2 to 3 chapati bread, a apple or any other friut avalaible,sago seed 1 cup, 3 bananas, chicken or beef or any vegetable.I MOSTLY EAT BEEF IN PIECES 2 PLATES

AFTER WORKOUT
any fruit, an egg, 3 bananas,1 cup milk.

DINNER
FOOD (chicken or beef or any vegetable I often eat mutton), friut (any),2 c

Posted by: BUSTINOUT

Quote:

Originally posted by Just a guy
hold up?@?@?!!! ur not fiancially strong enough to eat enough?! so why are u spending your dough on roids?? jesus christ.... look man go get a big thing of whey protein and drink 300 grams of protein a day... it will last u like a month man for 39.95

For one thing, drugs don't cost dick in Pakistan. Of course it is all relative to what you earn.

Secondly, I don't think there is whey protein just floating around Karachi. Besides, where the heck you getting a 30 days supply of 300mg/day for $40.00?

I smell troll here guys. No money for food but time to sit on a puter? Hmmmm

Posted by: Ahsan

ok i finally decided not to take drugs bcz over here roids cost too much
but plz tell me that i m eating enough or notBREAKFAST
2 whole eggs, 1 cup milk,oatmeal ( a cup), 3 bananas.
LUNCH
2 to 3 chapati bread, a apple or any other friut avalaible,sago seed 1 cup, 3 bananas, chicken or beef or any vegetable.I MOSTLY EAT BEEF IN PIECES 2 PLATES

AFTER WORKOUT
any fruit, an egg, 3 bananas,1 cup milk.

DINNER
FOOD (chicken or beef or any vegetable I often eat mutton), friut (any),2 chapati bread

Posted by: Mudge

Quote:

Originally posted by Ahsan
BREAKFAST
2 whole eggs, 1 cup milk,oatmeal ( a cup), 3 bananas.

You haven't had protein in your system all night long, and you are taking in 10 grams of complete protein, not much to speak of man.

You need way, way more protein everywhere in the diet, start posting in the diet forum.

Quote:

Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
I smell troll here guys. No money for food but time to sit on a puter? Hmmmm

Look at the Nigeria 419 scammers

Posted by: Ahsan

what do u mean
i dont ve eat protein or not
i cant eat enough eggs bcz the place whr i live its climate is 2 hot.

Posted by: Ahsan

sorry typ mis take
<i dont ve eat protein or not
corr
i dont eat enough protein or i eat
i cant understand plz be clear

Posted by: Mudge

You dont get enough protein, each meal of mine is 55-60 grams of protein and other than your meal with meat in it I see hardly anything at all, that is 6 meals.

Your eating enough protein for a 12 year old girl

Posted by: Ahsan

whattttttttttttttttttttttttttt
ok thx a lot mudge what should i eat atleast to my age
but i m gaining u know

Posted by: Mudge

In the US the recommendation for the average person who does not lift weights is 50 grams of protein a day. For you I would say 130-200 grams of protein a day, how you find a way to eat that is up to you.

Spread your protein evenly through each meal as best you can, dont eat 100 grams in one meal and then much less in the rest of your meals.

I dont know how they do it in Egypt but there are successfull bodybuilders there. I would say start eating lots of meat, fish/chicken/beef/birds whatever. Your also going to need calories so carbohydrates should probably be a little high for you also, brown or wild rice, sweet potatos and so on, carbohydrates can get a bit complex.

Posted by: Ahsan

well mudge
ve u for get that i m only 15 yrs old.So even at this age i ve to eat 130-200 grams of protein. how can i count that how many grams i ve eaten

Posted by: Mudge

I dont know how you are obtaining your food, are you killing it yourself or are you buying it at the market? You would have to weigh the meats.

Posted by: Ahsan

i buy meat from the market and then cook it. about 1 1\2 kilo for five people.

Posted by: Mudge

Like I said, start posting in the diet forum. List the meats and you can get information on how much protein approximately will be per weight of the meat.

Type of meat and cut (where it comes from on the body) obviously will make a difference, chicken, fish etc

For me if I were eating lean beef, it would be 1/2 (.23kg) pound per meal (weight before cooking).

Posted by: Tha Don

haha

this is one of the most amusing threads ever

on a real note... your only 15, you have years and years to grow yet my man before you fully develop

just start lifting weights 3 times a week (make sure you get proper instruction and all that, its really vital)

as for your diet start eating more meat, eat it 6-7 times a day with complex carbs (brown rice, pasta, potatos)

you'll see results man

and like mudge says post in the diet forum they will help you get a good diet!

peace

Posted by: Ahsan

ok
thx young d

Posted by: Tha Don

Quote:

Originally posted by Ahsan
ok
thx young d

no prob

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