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Originally posted by Jenny I think most of us are in it for fun Fire  To be more motivated to improve ourselves. You still need to be in the comp! C'mon Fire, don't let us down 
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Originally posted by J'Bo -rock and ris your pics are perfect |
To be more motivated to improve ourselves. You still need to be in the comp! C'mon Fire, don't let us down
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Originally posted by Jenny I think most of us are in it for fun Fire To be more motivated to improve ourselves. You still need to be in the comp! C'mon Fire, don't let us down
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Originally posted by firestorm To be totally honest with you, since this was my idea in the 1st place I really don't think it would look good if I won. I want someone else to win. |
like you'd win... spec. since you gotta compete against moi 
just to make it fair.
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Originally posted by Jodi I would like to make a suggestion. Can we have these IM Comp journals without Post whoring please. Its a bitch to go through them and try and read the important stuff when we have to go through page after page of stuff. |
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Originally posted by butterfly TP you interested in joining or judging??? |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Also, if I join, it might be a little unfair. |
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Originally posted by J'Bo it isnt really about winning tp its about attaining your goals and being supported by the people here. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Yeah, okay, this is a little too serious for me. |
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Originally posted by J'Bo well some people want serious results...to me serious is someone who is looking to win...i am serious about my next comp.
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Originally posted by Twin Peak But I am also nice and atrophied from the shoulder injury. So I should be able to gain muscle quickly. |
My bodyweight has only changed a few pounds in the last year, yet my bodyfat has nearly doubled...beat that. lol
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Originally posted by BUSTINOUT I bet I'll kick your butt all over the net in the atrophy department. My bodyweight has only changed a few pounds in the last year, yet my bodyfat has nearly doubled...beat that. lol
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Originally posted by firestorm 1. You MUST be NATURAL. No juice heads please. That would not fair to all of us that do it the "hard" way. (and we know who you guys are from the Anabolic thread) Start a similar contest in there if you wish. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak BO if someone isn't intent on passing moral judgment and isn't intent on perpetuating ignorance (and you are probably right regardin FS, I think he has admitted to AAS use in the past) then he should be more careful in choosing his words. |
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Originally posted by J'Bo Lets just call it a Natural Competition like their are in the Bodybuilding world...you think that those are judgmental as well? |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak No. Since they aren't littered with insults as the post above was. Again, it was the word choice, not the result, with which I take issue. That aside, I do think the term "natural" to be a silly term in todays world. What is natural in ones mind, is not in another. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak BO if someone isn't intent on passing moral judgment and isn't intent on perpetuating ignorance (and you are probably right regardin FS, I think he has admitted to AAS use in the past) then he should be more careful in choosing his words. I know people here who have told me they are uncomfortable admitting their use on this board (as opposed to others) because of posts just like these. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak I take great offense to this. Personally, I have never used an illegal AAS. That aside, I find this "rule" to be quite offensive. Why? 1) It is morally degrating. Who are you to pass moral judgement on someone for using AAS? Nope not my place to Judge, Save that for the local and federal judges for those that get caught. lol 2) It professes great ignorance by believing that "natural" is such a black and white concept. Natural: use of no Illegal substances. 99.99% of the people on this board knew what I meant by this term. I'm ignorant for using a term made up by Professionals in the sport of bodybuilding and a term that is not new in the least. Who the FUQ are you anyway TP to call me IGNORANT for using this term? (the more I read this FUCKING GUYS POST the more I get FUCKING irate by the second!!!!) God damn did this P#$K push a fucking button! 3) It professes great ignorance by assuming that one who is "natural" has worked any harder than one who is not. NO not harder but harder gains. I TYPED IT FUQING WRONG BIG FUCKING DEAL!!! GROW UP YOU LITTLE BITCH!! If you don't want people entering the contest if they are using a certain substance, say so. There is not ****ing reason to take this tone or attitude which only serves to perpetuate ignorance and the believe of the masses regarding the moral turpitude of AAS. |
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Originally posted by firestorm I can say "Illegal" can't I??? You won't call me ignorant for that too will you? I mean Anabolic Steroids are a federal offense to purchase, sell or even posses in every state in the USA as well as some other countries right? |
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Originally posted by firestorm So if you REALLY look at ALL that was said here, you come to the defense of Illegal drug users, and dealers and you call me Ignorant? You have nerve buddy. Your ignorance runs much deeper. |
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Originally posted by firestorm I have used steroids |
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Originally posted by gopro All "natural" contests should be renamed OTC contests and all natural bodybuilders should be renamed OTC bodybuilders. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Yeah, that is perfectly fine. You know, I might actually be bothered by this post, if it wasn't written by a felon. |
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Originally posted by firestorm TP, your a lawyer correct? If that's the case could you please define "felon"? I haven't used steroids since 1989ish and quit using them prior to it becoming a Federal Law. (one reason I quit). Lastly, isn't there a 7 year statute of Limitations which would apply to me? If so, that wouldn't make me a felon would it? Also several people in here have PM'ed me telling me how TP thinks he is a know it all. And whatever he says is rule and everyone else including GoPro is wrong. The suppliment company your affilated with is superior to ALL others and VPX for example is shit compared to yours. It's perceived that you have the God like syndrome by some people in here and I'm beginning to believe it myself just from your original posts in this thread alone. You act like your so much better then others here and "above" taking part in a contest like this. I'm not trying to start shit with you but seriously, who do you think you are? The words I stated above ARE NOT MINE but from others here. I wouldn't know about any suppliment slamming if it wasn't PM'ed to me. TP seriously I want to end this now. I don't have any enemies here and I want to keep it that way. Apparently I pissed you off with the way I wrote the original rule which I "changed" so as not to offend anyone. Your point that it may be offensive was taken but your way of going about telling me was out of line also. Your comment about who the f**** I think I was... or whatever it was pissed me off too. Your calling me "ignorant" also hit a nerve. You blew the whole thing out of proportion. You said: "I take great offense to this personnally" and yet you state you've never taken steroids! Why would you take it "Personally" if you've never taken steroids? How were you personally offended if that's the case; the rule wouldn't apply to you? Actually I really don't care because like I said as far as this is concerned I want this BS to stop. Fight with someone else. You made your point and I made mine. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Ah, the cavalry. I would be remiss if I didn't point out the obvious and unnecessary insult to the female gender. Yet another ignorant statement. Aside from that, it is interesting how you and your loved one, need to resort to personal attacks. You'll notice I have refrained and only attacked a statement. Aside from that, and from the one item I feel the need to address (as it is the heart of this issue), I will refrain from engaging in the worthless mudslinging. The only point worth addressing is both of your comments to the effect of me having no right, as a non-AAS user, to defend this issue. Bullshit. The point is, which you each have failed to see, that AAS are illegal for one reason -- the stigma and moral turpitude that society has placed on steroid use. Which is the same reason ephedrine will soon be banned. The general public is beyond ignorant as to the use, effect, and abuse of steroids. This is perpetuated by the media, and often people who should know better (like the two of you). Scare tactics and the like only serve to shackle our rights, which is becoming an ever increasing problem in this industry, and our society. There is a huge difference between use and abuse, and the original statement with which I take issue, blurs this. Each of you may very well not be ingorant on these issues, but the original post seeths with ingonrance, and so does condoning it. (An for the record, you can never make the comment "so-and-so isn't ignorant.". We are all ignorant of many things; at least I have yet to meet someone who is all knowing. There are countless topics to which I display great ignorance, and so I choose not to discuss those topics, unless I am inquiring to learn. So yes, if you see me speak on a topic, I am pretty damn sure I know what I am talking about, or else I'd qualify my comment.) |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak I am done, and have been. I honestly have no issues with FS, as a person. Hell, I barely know him. It is the peanut gallery that would like to keep this going, and I refuse to, except to continue to address what is the fundamental issue at hand (though few can see it). I also have no qualms with anyone forming any opinion about me based on what I have said here, or elsewhere. |
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Originally posted by BabsieGirl Hey FS...... That's all in good humor. Cheer up buttercup. |
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Originally posted by J'Bo Jodi can you take over as head judge please? i am afraid that i simply have too much to do in the next year and wont be able to be here much. Sorry i have to back out. |
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Originally posted by Jodi FS...you know how I have nothing against nor anyone else on this board. Being a friend of TP, I was simply aggravated by the fact that people were taking jabs at him that should have been left unsaid. The disagreement between you 2 should have remained between you 2 and let you both settle it as you see fit. I didn't want to intervene but I didn't like the negativity I saw thrown around, that is why I spoke up. So you came to the defense of a friend. humm. lol ok ok I'll stop. I saw no problem with you posting your responses nor what you said. I know you meant now harm but remember, we only have words here to describe how we feel and express ourselves. We don't have body languange or voice tones and that is why we must choose our words wisely. |
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Originally posted by butterfly Can we PLEASE get back to the original reason for this thread?!? I need to know who is going to be judging so I can suck up to them
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Originally posted by BabsieGirl Since TP isn't competing, why doesn't he become a judge. Only suggesting because he is knowledgable and, if Jodi takes over as head jugde. Who's going to fill her shoes?
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Originally posted by butterfly Can we PLEASE get back to the original reason for this thread?!? I need to know who is going to be judging so I can suck up to them
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Originally posted by butterfly I need to know who I can suck up to
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Shall I attempt to answer this?
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Originally posted by firestorm GOPRO my BUDDIE,,, you better get this straight right now before you force me to come all the way to your brand new home and kick your ass hahahahahahaha Seriously, I NEVER said you were wrong just in case you read that wrong. You know your my guru here and single handedly changed my lifelong believe that MORE is BETTER. |
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Originally posted by gopro And I was asked to be a judge by lovely JBo. I said yes. |
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Originally posted by BabsieGirl J'Bo doesn't want to judge anymore. See her last post |
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Originally posted by firestorm I hired J'Bo. J'Bo hired Jodi. J'Bo just backed out but really had no reason to. Judges really don't have anything to do until June and that is just look at some stats and pics and make a decision. J'Bo,, I don not accept your resignation. You may however take a leave of absence. Judging does't mean you have to help everyone. Jodi does it because she is a moderator,and has the time to do so. I don't give Nutritional advice. I'll give workout advice when asked but that's all I'm doing. |
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Originally posted by firestorm I hired J'Bo. J'Bo hired Jodi. J'Bo just backed out but really had no reason to. Judges really don't have anything to do until June and that is just look at some stats and pics and make a decision. J'Bo,, I don not accept your resignation. You may however take a leave of absence. Judging does't mean you have to help everyone. Jodi does it because she is a moderator,and has the time to do so. I don't give Nutritional advice. I'll give workout advice when asked but that's all I'm doing. |
I have talked to everyone and they have agreed to judge.
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Originally posted by J'Bo i agree that TP is knowledgable and would be a great judge however i was trying to get a few judges that have DIFFERENT opinions on how to train and diet...Jodi, Les and TP all follow the same rules and beliefs |
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Originally posted by Leslie Just want to point out, although some of us have the same or diff ways/beliefs of training, the judging is not about the diet or training method. It is about the outcome and the positive changes the competitors have made with their physiques. I think we all agree, as bodybuilders and fitness advocates, on what is a remarkable imporvement. There are many paths and routes to get to a great body, but results are results
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy I'll go get my whip to crack when you slackers start getting loose. |
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy I'll go get my whip to crack when you slackers start getting loose. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Robboe in the house. Excellent choice as a judge. And for the record, I do not have any one particular "way or belief" of training or diet. My "way or belief" depends on the person and the goals. |
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Originally posted by J'Bo well i just did not want anyone to think that i wasnt paying attention to the comp. i will be reading posts etc but your right i dont need to help...only to judge. i agree that TP is knowledgable and would be a great judge however i was trying to get a few judges that have DIFFERENT opinions on how to train and diet...Jodi, Les and TP all follow the same rules and beliefs and so that is why the judges are as follows: Me (ok i am here to stay) Jodi Les Hardasnails GoPro The Chicken Daddy So we are set I have talked to everyone and they have agreed to judge.
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Originally posted by J'Bo yes you have a point however i still think that it would be best to have different types of judges. GP and HAN and TCD will be a great mixture along with you Jodi and I. |
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Originally posted by firestorm Good job J'Bo that looks just fine although I don't know TCD but that doesn't matter. |
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Originally posted by J'Bo gp is making my show him my boobies in order for him to judge jkok les new thread it is...throw out the old and in with the positive and new
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy All you need to know is that while there are females in this contest, the men have no chance of getting my vote. I thank you. |
aint much to them 
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Originally posted by J'Bo TCD accepts nudies as a form of ass kissing. GP you saw them already when our little friend rusty posted them aint much to them
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy All you need to know is that while there are females in this contest, the men have no chance of getting my vote. I thank you. |
sorry. you may want to ask some of the guys around the site though cause some pervs saved it 
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Originally posted by firestorm Very funny TCD but you brought up a subject that I'm not sure we have clarity on. ARE WE SPLITTING THE CONTEST MEN / WOMEN ???? I think having one male and one female winner is a good Idea what do you JUDGES and COMPETITORS think?? |
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Originally posted by J'Bo Yes i agree that one female and one male winner is best. GP pic is gone sorry. you may want to ask some of the guys around the site though cause some pervs saved it
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never.
what a way to start off my Monday 
Its not that hard Manc... and fun too you should try it some time.
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