i was wondering about the product from iron-tek called duratestin...its tri stack of 5alpha-Androst-1-ene-3-one-17-OL THP ether, 5alpha-Androst-1-ene-3-beta,17-beta diol THP ether, and 19-Norandrostenediol THP ether....all three are 50 mgs each...i was wondering if this is a good product and if it would be good to stack with a 4ad from either Ergopharm or IDS for about 4-5 weeks...i was planning to do 1 pill twice a day(1oo mgs) and then do 2 pills twice a day(200 mgs) after my first 2 weeks...then with the 4ad just do 100 mgs with the 100 mgs of duratestin, then up to 200 mgs the following 2-3 weeks....info would be greatly appreciated...
Posted by: dg806
Stay away from 5-alpha! It's a precursor to DHT. Very Very androgenic. If you want to loose your hair and grow a prostate like a cabbage and play connect the dots on your face(zits), then you can take it. It is a good hardening agent though for pre contest if you want to chance the side effects.
Posted by: tomas101
what would u recommend instead of the duratestin then.......i was told that the 5 alpha was not a precursor to DHT...but this was from iron-tek's customer line and the lady didnt know much about it...i wanted to take a 19 nor diol and a 4 diol, but thought i should have a 1 ad also..thats why i was gonna try duratestin..also how likely are these side effects that you speak of?
Posted by: dg806
19 nor and 4-ad will compete for the same receptors. So you will be wasting money on one. 4-ad is the better choice! And I would get a transdermal 1-test to stack with it(transdermal 4/ad also!). Side effects vary by person. Many are more prone to sides than others. So You will just have to see how you react. Does your mother's side of the family have a history of hair loss?? If so, then you are at risk. And any substance that converts to dht is going to be harsh.
Posted by: tomas101
ahhhhh..ok thanks alot...which companies transdermal do u recommend...transmerdals seem to be a lot cheaper also
whats the difference between this from s1+ with the ingredient 5a-androst-1-ene-3-one and the the ones in other products like the one i mentioned...b/c the 1 and s1+ both have 5a-androst-1-ene-3-one which u say is not good???
Posted by: dg806
ok, I looked too quick. I thought the alpha was 5aa, but it's not. It is 1-test with an ether attached. That is the difference. Supposedly with the ether it is longer acting in the body and gives better absorption. I would still go with the transdermal. With oral products most gets filtered by the liver.
Posted by: tomas101
ok thanks alot for your help...i think i am going to try the s1+ seems to be good..plus its cost efficient
Posted by: tomas101
also how long should the cycle of s1+ be taken for and should i just do the dosage they recommend or do a lil more than that?
thats the last question..promise
Posted by: dg806
4-6 weeks. 5-6 squirts every 12 hours will suffice.
