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Posted by: topolo

could someone please discuss which prodeuct are better for fat loss in men..and which products are better by avant for women?

any info would be appreciated.

Posted by: Randy

I would say the best weight loss product for both men and women is a good diet and exercise. For losing weight you want to include a lot of cardio excercises. Check with your doctor or a trainer to help setup the right program for you.

Posted by: Prince

I would say LeptiGen:
http://www.avantlabs.com/main.php?productID=5

Posted by: HoldDaMayo

interesting... I was just reading an article in a new magazine all about leptin... Prince, have you used this supplement or have you just heard good things? I have seen your pics and I'm not trying to kiss ass or anything, but your shape and size is pretty much where i'd like to get to... What is your height/weight in those pics taken... i especially like the "upper body - front" shot... very nice...

Posted by: Prince

thanks, no I have never taken it, but I believe Leslie is quite fond of it.

not sure which pics, the black & white were around 4 years ago and I was only around 170lbs, I am about 5' 6", the color pics I was around 185lbs.

before my back injury a few months ago I was at 195lbs, right now I am down to a solid 180lbs and fairly lean, I can see abs.

I need to take and post some new pics, my digital camera is a piece of crap, I keep waiting to get a new one....

Posted by: HoldDaMayo

I'm 5'11".... I'm wondering what kind of weight I would be at if i had your build in those black and white pics... I'm guessing 180-190... you think that's about right?

Posted by: Prince

No way to make that assessment, especially over the net without pics. Even with them it's hard, height and build are huge factors with weight. Post your pics, I will take a look!

You have to remember that I have a very small bone structure too, before I started lifting weights at 5' 6" I weighed around 135lbs. I assume that if I quite lifting all together I would shrink down to around 150lbs or so.

Posted by: donescobar2000

I recommend ab solved and lipoderm. They are both good products.

Posted by: Randy

I recommend staying away from the jelly donuts and save your money.

Posted by: topolo

Randy, I AM a personal trainer!!!! I would reccomend you save your lame posts foir another thread!!

Posted by: firestorm

VPX has several products out there that many members here swear to. One is Clenbuterx and I forget the name of the other. Check out VPX website or send a PM to GOPRO he works for the company.

Posted by: Randy

Folks, I'm not hear to bash those who take weight loss products.
I'm just voicing my opinion on how important I feel that a good diet and excercise is, and that they should not be substituted for a weight loss product.

Finally, I don't feel that I should be hammered on by someone like topolo or anyone else for voicing my opinion. I haven't bashed anyone else here for voicing theirs. I did make a joke, but that wasn't directed to any individual here.

Posted by: firestorm

I didn't read the bashing Randy but your statement is correct. Nothing takes the place of proper diet, nutrition and training. Diet Supliments should be used as just as the name says a supliment to diet,nutrition and training.

Posted by: firestorm

Quote:

Originally posted by topolo
Randy, I AM a personal trainer!!!! I would reccomend you save your lame posts foir another thread!!

Topolo, as you can see by his post he followed it with a laughing face...thus a joke. you'll find joking comments on just about every thread here so lighten up. Your being a P/T...where did that come from anyway? What was the point of proclaiming your a P/T have to do with anything?

Posted by: Randy

Thanks FS

Posted by: firestorm

No need to thank me Randy, he had no business jumping on you like that man.

Posted by: Brando457

I took trimspa w/ ephedra and lost about 30 pounds w/ intense cardio training. I took it slow though 2 pills a day 1 in morning and 1 before workout.

Good luck, with losing weight, I'm working on that myself

Posted by: firestorm

No way Brando your not Cabbie from howard stern are you??? lol Good work taking that weight off. Now the real challenge and that is keeping it off. Be sure to eat clean bro.

Posted by: Brando457

thnx bro, the weight has been off for sometime now, I went the whole month of August not exercising, but of course I did work at a electronic store carrying 50lb boxes up and downstairs. Yeah keeping the weight off is easy for me, but losing more of it is being a pain. I m stuck at 203, like not once have I dropped below it....

Posted by: topolo

Your being a P/T...where did that come from anyway? What was the point of proclaiming your a P/T have to do with anything?

The post came because he said to hire a personal trainer. The thread is about avant labs............not what he thinks I should do!!!! I want specific information on their products especially which products are for men and which ones are for women......I am not looking for lame information about staying off jelly donuts or hiring a personal trainer. The thread was specific.......AVANT LABS not how to lose weight.

Lets keep this clean and not personal, OK?

Posted by: HoldDaMayo

Randy, the first time you said diet and exercise and something about wasting money of supplements... i was like whatever, read the post thread buddy... the second time it was obvious you were just trying to be cute... hence the jelly donut remark...

I think you were setting yourself up for someone to tell you to lay off... start your own thread .... or better yet...

GO TO DIET AND NUTRITION FORUM AND DON'T POST IN THE SUPPLEMENT FORUM IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT SUPPLEMENTATION!!!

I'm not trying to be personal... but c'mon, gimme a break...

Posted by: donescobar2000

Quote:

Originally posted by donescobar2000
I recommend ab solved and lipoderm. They are both good products.

Bump myself!

Posted by: Prince

Randy, YES, proper diet, nutrition and training are number one, but supplements can, and do, help that is why they exist. So if you have everything else in order there is nothing wrong with using a supplement to facilitate your progress.

Regardless of that, the person was specifically asking about supplement advice, not diet and nutrition.

Posted by: firestorm

Quote:

Originally posted by topolo
Your being a P/T...where did that come from anyway? What was the point of proclaiming your a P/T have to do with anything?

The post came because he said to hire a personal trainer. The thread is about avant labs............not what he thinks I should do!!!! I want specific information on their products especially which products are for men and which ones are for women......I am not looking for lame information about staying off jelly donuts or hiring a personal trainer. The thread was specific.......AVANT LABS not how to lose weight.

Lets keep this clean and not personal, OK?

I understand what your saying topolo but all I said was you came across kinda hard on the fella. No big deal. Lets just drop it. The important thing is,, did you get your question answered yet? I have to look back and read around all the bullshit posts (including mine) to see what info came out of this. I'm also interested in these Avant products. I've been using VPX because my buddy GOPRO works for them. Twin Peaks has an interest in Avant labs so why don't you PM him your questions on their products. He would be more then happy to help you.

Posted by: topolo

i think i will....thanks

Posted by: firestorm

Your very welcome. Let us know what you decide to buy if anything.

Posted by: Randy

I apologize about the jelly donut comment. I guess I should of just said, "Hold Da Mayo"

Posted by: firestorm

Oh man Randy you keep getting in trouble. lol

Posted by: Randy

I know I'm a misfit..... I sowry

Posted by: Randy

Must be my flee colar....It is drivin me nuts

Posted by: firestorm

hahahaha

Posted by: Twin Peak

And back to the topic on hand.

LeptiGen is indeed, IMHO, the best dieting product on the market today. It is a one of its kind -- nothing else event claims to do what LeptiGen does -- make dieting a breeze by taking preventative measures -- by keeping leptin levels raised, when the diet would normally cause them to crash.

If you are looking for assistance in specific areas, Lipoderm-Y is ideal for females who carry extra fat in the hip, thigh, and butt areas.

Ab-Solved is ideal for combatting abdominal fat in men, or women who have male-pattern fat storage.

Lipoderm Ultra, while more expensive, is the most effective of the bunch, just about anywhere.

Hope this helps.

P.S. Other good fat-loss ingredients are ephedrine, green tea extract, forskolin, guggulsterones, and others. You may want to look into Syntrax's MM4, AST's Dymetadrine Xtreme, and VPX's Redline.

Posted by: topolo

thanks tp

Posted by: Twin Peak

Anytime.

Posted by: butterfly

I've seen an improvement on my arms from using the Lipoderm-Y.

I also swear by the Leptigen!!! Talk about cutting cravings and hunger pains!!!

Fade started the Redline and is already loving it!

BTW, the Clenbutrx is being discontinued and replaced with Redline.

Posted by: butterfly

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy
For losing weight you want to include a lot of cardio excercises.

I COMPLETELY disagree with this... cardio is NOT the most effective means to fat loss.

Posted by: donescobar2000

All you have to do is creat a 250 deficit and youll be set for 1 lb a week. And workout out. Whether it be cardio or lifting. I do recomend once againg the Lipo and Ab solved. They seem to be working well for me.

Posted by: butterfly

Quote:

Originally posted by donescobar2000
I do recomend once againg the Lipo and Ab solved. They seem to be working well for me.

You're using both???

Posted by: Jodi

I use both too

Posted by: donescobar2000

Yes. There is a difference in both of them. I specifically use the ab-solved for the abs and the lipo on other spots.

Posted by: butterfly

Interesting, thanks!

Posted by: Randy

Butterfly...

Where did I write that Cardio was the most effective way to weight loss

Your much to late I'm affraid, we've been over this already and it's old now. So please fly away butterfly, and take your whip elsewhere.

Posted by: Jodi

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy
Butterfly...

Where did I write that Cardio was the most effective way to weight loss

Your much to late I'm affraid, we've been over this already and it's old now. So please fly away butterfly, and take your whip elsewhere.

Yo, asshole.................. I believe Butterfly quoted YOU and has given you no reason to be such a dick to her.

Posted by: BabsieGirl

Well Randy, you've done pissed off another member.

You've got to watch it bud.

I can see where you're being playful, but on the other token, you have to be careful in who you do this to. Certain people are a little touchy.

In regards to the fat loss....here's my comment.

Diet and Cardio..........Diet and Cardio.................Diet and Cardio.

Supplements give ya the extra BOOST. Gotta love it.

Posted by: derekisdman

Posted by: Jodi

1. Diet
2. Lifting
3. Cardio (no way in hell does cardio take presedence over training)
4. Supplements

Posted by: Twin Peak

Babs, what happens, hormonally, when you diet?

As to cardio: BAH!

Posted by: Randy

You Jodi, go back to Vegas

... I wasn't being a dick.
I'm sure she knows we just been all over this a couple days ago.

I've already been spanked about my topic. It's just funny how people like to beat a dead horse.

Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
1. Diet
2. Lifting
3. Cardio (no way in hell does cardio take presedence over training)
4. Supplements

1, 2, 4, 3 for fat loss.

2, 1, 3, 4 for body composition.

Posted by: BabsieGirl

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy
Butterfly...

Where did I write that Cardio was the most effective way to weight loss

scroll up and read you're own post! You did say that. Point blank!

Your much to late I'm affraid, we've been over this already and it's old now. So please fly away butterfly, and take your whip elsewhere.

How can you put a smiley at the end of a comment like that? You need to pick your enemies wisely!

Posted by: Randy

Jodi/butterfly,

Do you both need glasses... Where in the hell did I say that Cardio takes presedence over training? Where did I say that Cardio is the best way to weight loss?

Do you need to borrow some glasses?

Let me emphasize what I believe. The best way to lose weight is proper diet, and proper exercise. Now as I said, this topic is old. I also stated that proper diet and exercise in combination of the right diet product may work well too. I'm sure there are other ways that work better for some people. Everyone is different.

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
1. Diet
2. Lifting
3. Cardio (no way in hell does cardio take presedence over training)
4. Supplements

Posted by: Randy

I said, for losing weight you want to include a lot of cardio excercises... I never said it was the best way to weight loss.
Hmmmm maybe I need glasses.

Posted by: BabsieGirl

Oh shit. TP is challenging me.

Give me a minute and I'll respond.

Posted by: Randy

Ladies,

Don't get hi blood pressure! Just get glasses

Posted by: Jodi

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
1, 2, 4, 3 for fat loss.

2, 1, 3, 4 for body composition.

I did mean for fat loss and I also did mean to put cardio in the number 4 slot. You know how I loathe cardio

Posted by: Randy

Ladies,

As I said, my comments were old. Why don't you focus on the topic of this thread. It is referencing weight loss products.
Why don't you stop acting like children and drop this subject

It really does not coorespond to the thread topic.

Again it is referencing diet products.

Posted by: Randy

LOL....uggg ohhh babsie has gone to pull out an article out of her weight loss encyclopedia...

Posted by: BabsieGirl

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Babs, what happens, hormonally, when you diet?

As to cardio: BAH!

Okay. In general? or in women vs man?

Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:

For losing weight you want to include a lot of cardio excercises.

Ladies, Randy is absolutely correct. Cardio is an excellent way to lose weight.

Now, as you all know, it is not (especially "a lot of" it) ideal for fat loss.

Please ladies, don't take Randy out of context. He was cleary referring to the ability to drop as much weight (including muscle) as possible.

Please wear your glasses.

Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
Okay. In general? or in women vs man?

In general.

Posted by: Randy

Thank you TP....

Posted by: Twin Peak

Anytime.

Posted by: Jodi

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy
You Jodi, go back to Vegas

... I wasn't being a dick.
I'm sure she knows we just been all over this a couple days ago.

I've already been spanked about my topic. It's just funny how people like to beat a dead horse.

No, now your being an ass.

Many topics get off subject, deal with it. Its a discussion forum.

Posted by: Jodi

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Ladies, Randy is absolutely correct. Cardio is an excellent way to lose weight.

Now, as you all know, it is not (especially "a lot of" it) ideal for fat loss.

Please ladies, don't take Randy out of context. He was cleary referring to the ability to drop as much weight (including muscle) as possible.

Please wear your glasses.

Posted by: Randy

Jodi,

You are an instigator. The message your quoting is simply in defense of the nasty message you sent me. In fact you too must of thought it was since you deleted it after you sent it. So don't try to play the angel here Jodi.

Grow up and act like an adult. My comment to butterfly may of been harsh, but it was only because I was already bashed for placing an off topic message on this thread. Why don't you stay on topic and just drop this issue.

Posted by: Jodi

Excuse me. What did I delete? I've never written to you or even heard of you until this thread. WTF are you talking about? I never sent you any nasty message, I don't even know who you are.

I commented on your harsh post to butterfly which I found childish and uncalled for. I never delete any thread and as you can see I had no problem calling you an ass.

Posted by: naturalguy

2 + 2 = 4

I am enjoying this thread.

Posted by: Randy

Jodi,

My apology, the messages where moving so fast at one point I lost track of it and thought you deleted it. I can clearly see that you have no problem using foul language. What a wonderful attribute Jodi.

Now that we clarified this, can you please drop this subject.

Posted by: I Are Baboon

lol

Jodi the Hellraising Badass.

Posted by: dg806

I told everyone to play nice and not make this personal on page one!

Posted by: Jodi

Quote:

Originally posted by I Are Baboon
lol

Jodi the Hellraising Badass.

You know me IAB...........kicking ass and taking names later

Randy, subject dropped and yes, I'm quite fond of my trucker mouth.

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