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Originally posted by P-funk Jodi............closet cardio queen....... see.....cute 
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Originally posted by BabsieGirl Do you really burn more fat when you train on an empty stomach? You'll probably hear many arguments for and against exercising on an empty stomach. Proponents of exercising in a fasted state claim that you burn more fat. In theory, because your blood sugar levels are low, exercise on an empty stomach allows you to "dip" into fat stores more quickly. Critics say that exercising for more than 30 minutes on an empty stomach is unhealthy. Without the necessary energy to fuel your workout, your body will start burning muscle protein for energy. They also advise against weight training on an empty stomach. Because a lot of energy is required for this kind of workout, you won’t be able to work your muscles hard enough to stimulate muscle growth. The argument is likely to continue for some time. However, both camps do agree on one point — that what you eat (or drink) before you exercise does have a big impact on what happens during exercise. New research, carried out over a period of several months, also shows that what you drink during exercise has a big impact on muscle growth. Energy drinks There are many energy drinks, such as Lucozade Sport and Gatorade, promoted for use before, during, and after exercise. Drinking Lucozade Sport before exercise, for example, is supposed to "ensure that the body is fully hydrated and that energy stores are topped up with a boost of carbohydrate to maximize performance." |
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Originally posted by P-funk also, drinks like gatorade, in my opinion, are not optimal pre workout if your goal is fat loss because of the high amount of sugar in them, |
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Originally posted by BabsieGirl JJJ -- It all boils down to people have their own opinions what works best. Some people agree and disagree. I stated my opinion and what I feel works and so have other IM members. Thing is....experiment with your body. Take notes and see what happens. Still wouldn't recommend you exercise with out anything in your stomach. |
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Originally posted by dg806 I think Jodi hit it on the head. For fat loss, you need to do cardio on an empty stomach. Now granted it won't help you gain muscle, but a 30min to 1 hour session will not harm you too bad. Now if you are trying to gain muscle(bulk) and do cardio during the week to keep excess fat off, I think you need the protein for anti-catabolic purposes! |
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Originally posted by BabsieGirl Hey...I'm quoting myself. lol Also, Dg is correct. Me myself, I wouldn't do cardio with out eating because of my goals. I will say there are times I do cardio with out eating. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy I disagree. You have just gone 8-10 hours without taking in any calories. Now you are going to do cardio which requires energy. Contrary to popular belief the body does not dip into it's bodyfat stores for energy first. It is looking for glucose which, if you don't take in any calories, it will get from breaking down stored protein........muscle. You will burn some fat and some muscle. You are much better off with a small shake after all it's not about how much you burn during cardio, the advantage is how much it raises your metabolism. |
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Originally posted by JJJ And Im not trying to either gain muscle or lose fat, Im doing both. (yeah, I know everyone says its impossible, but it can be done, Ive done it before. Maybee you cant do it on a 5 % or less bodyfat though) |
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Originally posted by BabsieGirl JJJ no one responds the same. |
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Originally posted by BabsieGirl JJJ no one responds the same. |
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Originally posted by P-funk Jodi............closet cardio queen....... see.....cute
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Originally posted by BabsieGirl If you've done it before....why are you asking us? |
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Originally posted by JJJ Sure we do. Everyone needs air to breath, protein to build muscle. Then ofcourse genetics and whatever plays its part, but one the basic stuff were all the same. |
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Originally posted by JJJ Sure we do. Everyone needs air to breath, protein to build muscle. Then ofcourse genetics and whatever plays its part, but one the basic stuff were all the same. |
No........Scientifically.....we're not built the same. Our bodies respond differently, react differently.........are you also saying.....we're all genetically the same? That's what you're saying!
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Originally posted by P-funk yes, we are all the same in the respect that we need the same things to live...protein, fat, air, water etc, etc.....however the biological makeup is completely different for each and everyone of us, no two people are alike. I can't argue with you on this one, if you don't believe me then go to humankinetics.com and buy yourself a biology textbook. |
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Originally posted by JJJ One can always improve ones knowledge. If hitting the protein stuff spot on maybe Ill do everything 1 week faster? Or whatever. Point is, there is always room for improvment. |
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Originally posted by dg806 If we were the same height and weight and ate the same number of calories, one may gain weight and one may loose weight! Our bodies react different to what we put in it! |
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Originally posted by JJJ True. But its protein or NO protein. I refuse to belive that if group A were given 100 g of protein before walking and group B no protein that group A and B would show the same result. |
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Originally posted by JJJ True. But its protein or NO protein. I refuse to belive that if group A were given 100 g of protein before walking and group B no protein that group A and B would show the same result. |
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Originally posted by dg806 Don't get started Randy! |
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Originally posted by dg806 If that is the case, then it would burn all muscle first and leave us a big ball of blubber! |
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Originally posted by P-funk Yes, most people have a shake post workout. But, as far as what is in the shake (macronutrient breakdown) this is different from person to person becasuse everyone has different needs. Also, some will tell you that they don't even have a shake post workout, they jsut eat a whole meal (I have done this also). So, there is not one universal way. The same can be applied to the walking scenario, some eat before cardio, some don't, some do cardio, some don't. Everyone is different and everyone represents different views and opinions. |
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Originally posted by dg806 I assume you mean protein(gainer?). After workouts it helps stop catabolism of muscles. If you don't care that you loose muscle and just want to loose weight, then it wouldn't matter. |
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Originally posted by naturalguy Not neccessarily as the body does not use just one fuel at a time. Like I said it will burn a mixture of muscle and fat. I don't know about you but I am not going to give up an ounce of muscle for anything! |
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Originally posted by Randy Someone please close this thread..
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Originally posted by BUSTINOUT Keep posting in it...it will managed to get closed then.
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Originally posted by dg806 Protein is not a source of energy. Fat is the main source used at low intensity exercises like walking.(otherwise known as aerobic). A small amount of carbs and glucose are used. As you increase your effort, muscles burn more calories and shift toward carb supplies rather than fat. (otherwise known as anaerobic) |
Or should I implant a virus into this thread.. Hmmm
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