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Has anyone Tried the monster Combo from 1fast 400


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Posted by: spartan

Has anyone tried this stack yet??. What kind of results???.


Posted by: dg806

I would not recommend this as a first cycle.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Why?


Posted by: dg806

12g of 1-test is alot. Unless they cut the number of squirts down to 2 or 3, I think that is too much 1-test for a first cycle.


Posted by: spartan

I have had expierence with real gear in the past, so I think that this "stack" will be quite mild compared to what I have used before. Thanks for the input.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by dg806
12g of 1-test is alot. Unless they cut the number of squirts down to 2 or 3, I think that is too much 1-test for a first cycle.
I am not sure I understand how you can not recommend a stack, when you are not pleased with the dose. Lower the dose then, it will last longer as well.


Posted by: dg806

Come on TP.........look at 90% of the people out there. They will look at the directions and see 6 squirts/2 times a day and that is what they will do, not knowing what is in the product. You know this as good as I do. But you are right, it would be more economical to buy the 12g and lower the dose!


Posted by: dg806

Quote:
Originally posted by spartan
I have had expierence with real gear in the past, so I think that this "stack" will be quite mild compared to what I have used before. Thanks for the input.
I'm interested to see how your receptors respond.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by dg806
Come on TP.........look at 90% of the people out there. They will look at the directions and see 6 squirts/2 times a day and that is what they will do, not knowing what is in the product. You know this as good as I do. But you are right, it would be more economical to buy the 12g and lower the dose!
BUT....you are offering advice and its your chance to offer the best advice possible.


Posted by: dg806

Well like I preach, people must do some research on their own. I can't hold their hand.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by dg806
Well like I preach, people must do some research on their own. I can't hold their hand.
Except you told this guy it was a bad stack, with seemingly no basis.


Posted by: dg806

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Except you told this guy it was a bad stack, with seemingly no basis.
NO I DID NOT! You get up on the wrong side of the bed today??


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by dg806
I would not recommend this as a first cycle.
Really?


Posted by: dg806

That does not say it is bad. I could not be recommending it several reasons.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by dg806
12g of 1-test is alot. Unless they cut the number of squirts down to 2 or 3, I think that is too much 1-test for a first cycle.
And this was the only reason you gave, when I asked why.


Posted by: dg806

TP, I told you why. I don't see where you are going with this, other than you just simply disagree?


Posted by: Twin Peak

You are making a recommendation based on nothing, and then going in circles to defend it.

You may have valid reasons, but you certainly have not presented them here.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by dg806
TP, I told you why. I don't see where you are going with this, other than you just simply disagree?
And how in the hell can I agree or disagree, when you haven't given a single reason?


Posted by: dg806

I did give you a reason and you wanted to argue the point!
If they buy the 12g of 1-test, they will do 6x2. I think that would be too much for a first cycle. In this case, the guy has some past experiences.


Posted by: dg806

It is always best to start a first cycle with the lowest dose possible.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Lowering the dose doesn't not make it a bad cycle. Which was my very first point, above.

You have now gone full circle with poor logic, DG.


Posted by: spartan

I understand what you are both saying but I am still curious about results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I'm not to worried about sides from 1Ad and 4AD stacked I am curious about what can I expect in terms of gains.


Posted by: spartan

Twin Peak you must have some good insight to some of these products, I would be interested in your views.


Posted by: dg806

I never said it was bad TP. Just too much 1-test. If you can't understand that, I'm sorry.


Posted by: dg806

Gains depend on many things. Dose, diet, post cycle.


Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak

Lowering the dose doesn't not make it a bad cycle.
No wonder I'm having trouble trying to follow this thread.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Ah, frig, I made a typo.

Spartan, I honestly forget what is in the Cutting stack. From memory it is 1-test and boldione, which will make for a very potent cutting stack. If I am wrong, please post what is in it and I'll offer my views.


Posted by: spartan

It's 4 grams of 1 test and 4 grams of 4ad with 6 oxo to help "come off" LOL. transdermally applied


Posted by: Twin Peak

Its decent. Its a better bulk stack, IMO. I'd rather use 1-test alone or 1, 4 (boldione) when cutting as 4-AD causes water retention. Personal preference, really.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Its decent. Its a better bulk stack, IMO. I'd rather use 1-test alone or 1, 4 (boldione) when cutting as 4-AD causes water retention. Personal preference, really.
Shit, I take this back. I thought we were talking cutting stack. Yes, I think this monster combo is as good as it get, for bulking purposes.


Posted by: tk...

a'm gonna order some S1+ from 1fast400 very soon....

but after several months on it with their E-Form (Dermabolics anti E) a'm probably gonna make the switch to the monster combo as my receptors create a tolerance fro S1+...

on another note, does anybody have any feedback on "E-form" by dermabolics ?


Posted by: dg806

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Shit, I take this back. I thought we were talking cutting stack. Yes, I think this monster combo is as good as it get, for bulking purposes.
LMAO! Hell, you don't even know what we're talking about.


Posted by: JerseyPaul

Back to the Monster Stack, it includes one bottle of 6-OXO and recommends 3 a day (300 mg) for 20 days. Especially given the high daily dose of 1-test, I don't think that is enough. If you do this stack, you'll need two bottles of 6-OXO and should ideally start at 600 mg a day for the first week, 500 mg second week, 400 mg third week, and finally 300 mg the fourth and final week.


Posted by: spartan

Did you try this stack????.


Posted by: JerseyPaul

No, but I have used 6-OXO.


Posted by: ST240

are those topical gels/sprays more effective than orals?


Posted by: spartan

How did 6oxo work out for you??
yes transdermals are better than orals


Posted by: ST240

are they really? wtf.... seems like it would be unreliable to me


Posted by: JerseyPaul

Quote:
Originally posted by spartan
How did 6oxo work out for you??
Seems to be working very well. My first 1-AD cycle was completed two weeks ago, and so far I have keep my strength gains (25 lb increase in bench press for example). LBW dropped about 2 lbs (from a gain of 8 lbs). My libido has bounced back, and I appear to be getting leaner, even on maintenance calories.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by dg806
LMAO! Hell, you don't even know what we're talking about.
I know. But I never disagreed with your opinion, just your faulty logic.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by ST240
are those topical gels/sprays more effective than orals?
Of course.


Posted by: dg806

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
I know. But I never disagreed with your opinion, just your faulty logic.
Maybe I just didn't know how to get my point across?


Posted by: Twin Peak

Quote:
Originally posted by dg806
Maybe I just didn't know how to get my point across?
Perhaps.


Posted by: titans1854

tell if this is good for a first cycle.

4 squirts, 2x a day (in morning and at night so they would be applied at the same time) of the 1-test and 4-ad for 4 weeks.

then i would get an extra bottle of 6-oxo and take 3 pills 2x a day for first week and then 3 pills at night for another 3 weeks.

does this sound ok? and where should i rub the 1-test and 4-ad?



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