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loseing weight too fast?


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Posted by: ice

Im wondering if it really is bad to lose weight too fast. I have been on a cutting diet for one week now and have dropped 5 pounds. I weigh now 195 im 6'1 and have about 15-17% b.f
Here is my diet
meal 1- protein shake (230 cals)
meal 2-3 pieces of fruit
meal 3- can of tuna with pita= 230 cals
meal 4- can of tuna with pita= 230 cals
meal 5- can of salmon with three fruits
meal 6- protein shake
meal 7- glass of milk before bed
I also drink about ten cups of coffee a day
I think quite a bit of the five pounds is water weight as I am not eating much carbs so that is to be expected in the first week.
However it got me thinking what is the problem with dropping more then 2.5 as long as strength is about the same. Obvously bodybuilders drop more then 2.5/week since they are monsters in the off season and lose huge amounts by time contest starts.


Posted by: Jodi

First question, why are you cutting at 195lbs. You should be bulking if you want to gain muscle. Unless thats not your goal


Posted by: ice

im trying to cut... not gain weight.
I know im going to lose some muscle, but at 17% when I've bulked for 8 months last year why would I countinue bulking now? I just want to know why does everyone diss loseing more then 2.5lb a week.


Posted by: Jodi

Because your losing muscle. If you start losing 5lbs a week thats not all fat, half of that is muscle and that's alot to lose You can cut and keep LBM when done correctly.


Posted by: BabsieGirl

exactly


Posted by: Mudge

Sometimes it could be water, but without you taking measurements of bodyfat as well as using the scale who knows.

If your diet is on paper with the nutrient breakdown listed then you can gradually scale back the calories and avoid losing large amounts of meat.


Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by ice
I just want to know why does everyone diss loseing more then 2.5lb a week.
As noted, large amounts will be muscle, and frankly fast weight fluctuations are not good for the heart anyway. The human body is not going to just specifically lose bodyfat in huge quanities magically, its not that easy unfortunately.


Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
However it got me thinking what is the problem with dropping more then 2.5 as long as strength is about the same. Obvously bodybuilders drop more then 2.5/week since they are monsters in the off season and lose huge amounts by time contest starts.
Professional bodybuilders cann get away with this because they are using steroids which is helping keep them in an anabolic state, even when doing lots of cardio. Also, they are using extreme cutting agents and diuretics that you probably don't have axcess to.


Posted by: Mudge

To my knowlege most of those guys start 4 months out from a show with thier diet, 3 months would be pushing it. So we are still talking way more weight per week than they would prefer to lose, way more.

Otherwise we are talking

2.5x90 = 225 pound loss
2.5x120 = 300 pound loss

Ronnies cardio is an hour of walking in the AM, and an hour in the PM.


Posted by: ice

roonies amazing. I have his video unbelievable and he is a friggen machine. I think some of that he just put in to sych out the competition Like eating french fries for dinner and deadlifting 800 pounds at the end of four sets.

No i know my body. I have almost certainly dropped water as I already can see an improvement and this can only be because the water under my skin is leaving. Plus with exams right now I am drinking enough coffee to keep me pissing every hour so i am quite sure that is water.

My friend says she learned in her biochem class that the body will almost never breakdown muscle protein for energy and will almost exclusivly act on fat. Im not sure if I belive her but she seemed certain and she is really smart so Im sure she understands what the proffesor believes... I wonder if the effect of loseing more then 2.5 pounds/week is over exagerated

Certianly in my experiance I have lost strenght after stopping diets-maybe just cause I didnt have the energy to keep up my level of intesity during the diet.


Posted by: ice

Otherwise we are talking

2.5x90 = 225 pound loss
2.5x120 = 300 pound loss

i dont understand this
wouldnt it be
12x2.5=30 pounds loss (max for a three month cut)
16x2.5=40 pound loss (max for a four month cut)
obvously bodybuilders exceed this by a huge margin


Posted by: Ezrolith

The GENERAL rule is over 2lbs a week is probably muscle... This is not always accurate at all, combining low intensity exercise and as a result losing bodyfat is completely seperate than losing weight from dieting. With the guidance of doctors people have lost as much as 5lbs a week for more than a year. The 2lb a week thing is to avoid people eating nothing/stupidly low amounts of food a day and as a result not losing any weight.


Posted by: ice

ya I think it might be an exageration to say anything over 2.5 is muscle... after all its not like 2.5 is some magic number that your body somehow knows that its gone past. I think as long as your protein balance is kept high you could probably push that number a little without ill effects. But Im not going to be the one to try that since I like to eat and my diet sucks enough already!


Posted by: iron jock

According to what I have read and been told you can only loose up to 2lbs a week and still be healthy and that is if you are over weight.



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