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Posted by: Wannabefit

Ive been dedicated to the gym for about 3 months now and have a pretty good understanding on diet and training and would like to know if someone can point me in the right direction of a stronger supplement for growth. I'm 165 lbs with 13.00% body fat.

Posted by: prolangtum

Your still very much a beginner, you will make your best gains in the next 5-6 months. Focus on diet and routine, some people still dont have it down even after 5 years of training. If anything add some creatine.

Posted by: Wannabefit

sounds good. I'm cycling the creatine. I loaded already so now im maintaining with about 10g a day. I train the same body parts 2 times a week and i go 2 days and off 1 etc...Ill get there..I HOPE!!

Posted by: QuestionGuy

before you take anything wait at least another year or so, you will change a lot if you continue doing a good routine.....after that you can start taking something nice, but dont jump into anabolics just yet...... dont forget a good multi-vitamin and just maybe L-glutamine and get lots of rest, because when i first started working out I did to much and overtrained......

PS: sound to me like you need to eat a litle more

Posted by: Wannabefit

Heres my current schedule:

*On 2 days - Off 1
*I do each bodypart 2 times a week giving it 48 hours rest.
*Squats every Sat.
*WHEY Protein 3X daily, 4X on training days (Morn,pre-workout,post-workout,before bed)
*5g Creatine 30 min before workout
*Glutamine after the workout
*Daily Multi-Vitamin
*500mg Glucosamine 3X daily
*PLENTY OF WATER (trust me im outside in the woods at least 6 times at work)

PS: I messed up the bodyfat thing im 17.45% not 13%..

Posted by: prolangtum

Although Im sure your aware, its not just protein from shakes, it is total high quality protein per day, and most importantly total cals in the proper ratios that will determine results. Whats your daily diet like?

Posted by: Wannabefit

Ya I do know that I need protein from regular food. As far as diet it REALLY varies. I mean i dont eat the same thing or at least try not to everyday. I east a lot of chicken, steak and pork. Carbs i'll eat pastas etc. The REAL big problem is my job. I work 10 hours a day as a welder so its real hard to stop and eat also its tough for me to keep track of the numbers (grams per day)

*1 g of protein per pound of body weight
*2 g of carbs per pound of body weight
Those are some things that i was taught.

What do you mean by total calories in the proper ratio?

Posted by: QuestionGuy

17.45 % is another story, you could use a little cuting ( just like me)

but its not to bad. It looks to me like you got things down prety good if its only your first month of training man, all you need to do now is get a good diet and train hard and most importantly rest alot, 48 hours is not to much time to rest, but i dont know, like i said everyone is different....... good luck man you sound like you r going to make it, just give yourself time and dont take anything else till you "max out " your growth for now on the sups. you are taking

Posted by: Mudge

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Originally posted by Wannabefit
sounds good. I'm cycling the creatine.

You can run it year round, it does not need to be cycled.

Posted by: HoldDaMayo

Are there any benefits to cycling it Mudge? I've seen tons of places that give sample cycles that all include some time off...

Posted by: Wannabefit

I'm built smaller. My physique is hard to explain. Im 5'10" and i consider that short. I forgot to add that im taking a weight gainer (Serious Mass)in the morn and before bed. Like I said before, what can i take if when im at work and i dont have time to make anything to eat so i can keep my protein/carb totals in good shape daily?

Posted by: Power Rabbit

nothin wrong with 5,10 ...when u have the chest for it i usually find medium height guys to look more impressive...lee priest aint that tall.. im 6 flat but i think my build would look alot cooler on a 5,9

Posted by: Mudge

Priest is 5'4"

Posted by: Mudge

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Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
Are there any benefits to cycling it Mudge? I've seen tons of places that give sample cycles that all include some time off...

According to what I have read there is no reason to cycle it at all, it is not a drug, etc etc

Posted by: prolangtum

if your 17% BF, I wouldnt take weight gainer before bed. Just eat a cup or so of cottage cheese for slow release protein. Those extra carbs in the weight gainer at night are only good for getting chubbier

Posted by: QuestionGuy

Im 5'11 and i have good genes my chest is huge and also people tell me that im huge, but Im always wanting to be bigger than the next guy............thats why i came here because there is people just like me

Posted by: QuestionGuy

and on your question when ur at work, i would say just ake urself a nice shake, or if u r sick of that just bet a protein good pumped protein bar.......but remember, you also need food protein and fat, you can't live of of weight gainers and shakes.......

Posted by: QuestionGuy

Hey, if i were you i would start cuting, because once you gain a little mass it is going to be over 20% and thats a lot, So if i were you i would cut up til like 9-10% and then bulk ofcourse that is also hard to do.......

Posted by: BigTex

Hey Wannabefit, I don't think 48 hours of rest is enough and twice of week for each body part may be too much. You're going to burn out bro.

Posted by: Wannabefit

Ok sounds good guys thanks..

Should I just take some weight off my routine's and increase reps and sets?

Posted by: Power Rabbit

not if u want mass...mass comes from big weight low reps....keepin the weight so u can barely knock out 6-7 reps is what you want

Posted by: Wannabefit

ya that i know but im saying i do each body part 2 times a week. 1 heavy day and 1 light day..on the light days can i do the same routines just lighter weights and more reps and sets?

Posted by: Power Rabbit

yea..thats kind the way gopro's workouts go...a power day a rep day and a shock day...it seems to work pretty well...I use his chest one with a few mods and have gotten good resuls with it...look it up in the training section

Posted by: Wannabefit

is shocking like doing supersets?

Posted by: Power Rabbit

yup

Posted by: Wannabefit

i would love to do supersets from time to time but..the gym is always busy when i get there so its hard to do like flat DB press and then jump onto an incline DB press and so on..Somebody is always on what i need next hahaha..

Posted by: plouffe

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Originally posted by Mudge
Priest is 5'4"

He's a bad SOB -- But he needs to do something with the hair.

And Anyone see Lee Priest's LIKE A PRO Free CD?? It's at GNC. Decent Info..

Posted by: MeLo

LoL lee preist look pretty much weird with his long uncombed white hair. I thought i liked it better when he slicked it back like last time

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