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Originally posted by Mudge No side effects at all, no lethargy. Dont know if its my bodyweight or what but legal supplements have a history of doing nothing for me except a few (Ephedrine/Ultimate Orange, Ginkgo Biloba, the original Hot Stuff, heck thats all I can remember). |
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By DrtyJrzyGuy I finsihed a four week cycle of m1t from kilosports about 2 weeks ago, i ran 20mged for four weeks because i THOUGHT i was having no sides. . . Then the pain started to increase. . . i orginally attributed the pain in my back as well as abdominal area to the lower back pains people complain about. . .but then i just started feeling like something just wasn't right with me. . . figured it was the flue and went to the doc to see what was up. . . After getting blood tests we found that my liver values where absolutly horrible. . . I'll scan in the sheet when i get home later tonight. Basically many of the values are more than triple what the absolute worst should be. I soon started having chronic vomitting and such, and have been feeling worse by the day. After getting a cat scan we discovered that my liver has been physically damaged, more than likely due to the use of the m1t according to my doctor. Basically there is lines of fat going through my liver, which my doctor stress's is only common in a few people, those who are alcoholics for many years and those who abuse anabolic steroids. . . Now my doctor knows I have an interest in steroids, and I told him about the m1t. . . we got in a long discussion and he explained to me that he doesn't feel steroid use is bad, when done properly. He explained to me that oral steroids can cause liver failure if used over a long period of time, but that time is usualy a few years. . as was the case with the other person he said he had come in with basically the same problem. He can only guess that the M1T must simply be extremely liver toxic, he said if I was telling the truth about it only being four weeks that I may want to consider seeing an attorney. . . I am not the one to sue though, so i don't plan on that. I'll post a full update later today as to our findings, he said it could be due to soemthign else, but he just feels that it isn't, that it was the M1t that has done this. . . He also feels that because o fmy young age and the severity right now that I may ultimately be hospitalized. . . thats basiclaly what i'll be finding out this week. . . So my words of advice are simple, if your thinking about doing this stuff wait a week and hopefully someone, me unfourtunantly will be able to tell you exactly how liver toxic this product is. . . BUT I did make awsome gains and have kept 16lbs of muscle acording to my trusty fat calipers. . . however, it simply is not worht the price i may be paying. . . |
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Originally posted by PreMier Whats your thoughts on that post Mudge? |
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Originally posted by Power Rabbit M1t is pretty much a 17aa steroid(meaning very liver harsh), but it hasnt killed everyone who has taken it. This poor guy just isnt lucky. |
I'm going to try and last at least 2 weeks since this is how everyone else is generally cycling it.
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Hmmmm. |
(confusing) With my magic 8 ball out of commision, I dont always read people, so sometimes I am left clueless.
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Originally posted by Twin Peak Hmmm, meaning "interesting...." |
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Originally posted by Mudge 12-31 - I want to go home and SLEEP, seems like lethargy is here for the last couple days. |
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Originally posted by Twin Peak I never judge. Shame on you. |
I really didn't know what you had meant. I'm slow remember, S - L - O - H - W
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Originally posted by nacnac972 Lactose intolerance?
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Originally posted by Prince No, not me, from what I have heard from those that are they get severe stomach pain and cramping. |
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Originally posted by nacnac972 Common symptoms include nausea, cramps, bloating, gas, and diarrhea, which begin about 30 minutes to 2 hours after eating or drinking foods containing lactose. The severity of symptoms varies depending on the amount of lactose each individual can tolerate. |
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Originally posted by Prince you could have at least added the link to where you copied that from: http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddise...ance/index.htm |
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Originally posted by SJ69 In some people if there is no lactose present, the quit making the enzyme needed to digest lactose. I've heard that in some cases you can reintroduce lactose gradually and your body will begin to produce the enzymes needed. |
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Originally posted by Prince I just meant to give credit to the site/author, and to allow us to see the rest of the info on it.
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Originally posted by Power Rabbit Your only running it 2 weeks? Mudge my man, you were the one that convinced me longer cycles are generally better. Plus the best results Ive seen from other posts were in about the time frame Dale saw em... Im thinking 3-5 weeks is a better m1t cycle than the 2 weeks alot of companies are reccomending. |
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Originally posted by Power Rabbit Your only running it 2 weeks? Mudge my man, you were the one that convinced me longer cycles are generally better. |
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Originally posted by Dale Mabry Well Mudge, what's the word turd? |

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Originally posted by oaktownboy this stuff is a lot stonger though bro..GP has recommended 2 weeks on ..1 week off ..repeat ...i believe |
But it is 2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off. Thats with taking 10mg twice daily for on weeks. Off weeks you should be taking 3 pills of 6-oxo daily.
My lifts are not going up tremendously but they are going up, I dont feel weak at all in the gym.
I thought it was pretty funny?
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Originally posted by prolangtum I think you, TP and I all dont respond well to many things. Im think higher dosages for you would be the way to go as well. I may try it again at 50mgs ed after a run with methydienolone. |
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