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Posted by: Tha Don

i'm aware that isolate is best post workout

however which 1 is better for example at breakfast, pre-workout and before bed?

i'm assuming they are very similar, just wondered if there were any real differences

peace

Posted by: ZECH

Isolate does contain a little % more protein, but your body will not be able to tell the difference. Only your pocket book will. Stick with the concentrate if you are concerned with money.

Posted by: NeedMuscleMass

I was told isolate has a higher absorption rate then concentrate.

Posted by: Premo55

Isolate is basically useless any other time of the day other than post-workout, but the optimum post-workout protein is hydrolyzed anyway...Personally I don't stress it, I use a hydrolyzed whey/whey isolate/milk isolate/soy isolate/casein/egg albumen blend that I make myself, to get the benefits of everything. If you don't do insulin spikes and your PWO carb source is oats it doesn't really matter what kind of whey you use. In terms of an all-day protein, I recommend whey concentrate, but even that is absorbed way too quickly. For an all-day protein I suggest you purchase a blend, or at least a casein powder (seven hour timed release) or egg albumen (four and a half hours/five hour timed release) powder.

Peace.

Posted by: NeedMuscleMass

Exactly what I do..

I use ON blend for shakes in the day and EAS precision protein for a PWO.. Should i add oats to it?

Posted by: Premo55

Yes, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS add a carb source (personally I say slow-burning but if you're a hard gainer dextrose or glucose, just don't overdo it or you risk diabetes and insulin resistance in the long run, 30-40g of carbs is what you're shooting for) or a fat source (flax seed meal, flax seed oil, fish caps, hemp seed oil all work well, or heavy cream/natural peanut butter) with ANY shake you make, or the protein will be absorbed far too quickly and be used to replenish glycogen or converted to glucose and energy instead of being used to keep you in positive nitrogen balance.

Peace.

Posted by: NeedMuscleMass

I wish i knew that when i started last month lol..

So a flax oil pill with a shake would be ok for PWO?

Posted by: Premo55

Flax oil pills are not close to enough...you need about 15-20 g of fat or 35-40g of carbs...so I say a tablespoon of flax or hemp seed oil or 3 tablespoons of heavy cream or 3/4-1 cup of whole oats/oat bran...that's the easiest way to put it

Peace.

Posted by: BUSTINOUT

Why would you put flax in a shake post workout? That slows the process. You want it absorbed quickly. BTW, don't forget to eat real food. And the chances of getting diabetes from dex or gluc post workout are slim and none. You'd need lab rat doses. lol

Posted by: Tha Don

well i might go with isolate + maltodextrin post workout

concentrate in the morning (with a tbs of oil) and pre workout (with 1/2 cup of oats)

and a blend of whey concentrate and casien (with a tbs of oil) before bed

that look alright, any changes?

Posted by: BUSTINOUT

Is that all you have in the morning or do you follow it with a real breakfast? I have a whey shake first thing in the morning, but I have breakfast very soon afterwards.

Posted by: ZECH

Quote:

Originally posted by NeedMuscleMass
I was told isolate has a higher absorption rate then concentrate.

Nope, just a little percentage more protein.

Posted by: oaktownboy

Quote:

Originally posted by Premo55
Flax oil pills are not close to enough...you need about 15-20 g of fat or 35-40g of carbs...so I say a tablespoon of flax or hemp seed oil or 3 tablespoons of heavy cream or 3/4-1 cup of whole oats/oat bran...that's the easiest way to put it

Peace.

i agree with BO..u don't want to slow down the absorption of protein PW..it makes no sense whatsoever to add flax oil

Posted by: Premo55

^^ Well on a cutting phase or a very low-carb diet you need something to slow down the absorption of protein so it doesn't get wasted in glucogenesis....thus the flax...I don't recommend it for anyone other than someone in the last stages of a low carb cutting diet.

Peace.

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