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Posted by: Gray

Hi im gonna use this .

Week of cycle Anadrol 50 mg Nolvadex 20 mg Clomid 50 mg
1st week 1 tab/day -
2nd week 1 tab/day 1 tab/day -
3rd week 3 tab/day 1 tab/day -
4th week 3 tab/day 1 tab/day -
5th week 3 tab/day 1 tab/day -
6th week 1 tab/day 2 tab/day
7th week 1 tab/day 1 tab/day

Okay is this OKAY or will it KILL ME /liver Allso if this cycle is dangerous should i say at the most go onto 2 tabs per day or just use 1 tab for 5 weeks

please advice would really help people =)



Posted by: Mudge

Nobody can tell you how your liver is doing because nobody has seen your blood tests.

I dont know where you got the idea for this cycle, but frankly it sucks.



Posted by: Gray

whys it crap ???

and allso can u give me a 6 to 8 weeks steriod cycle that i could use for serious mass ????? and growth.

i was told anadrol is best for this ?



Posted by: Mudge

Not by itself if you want to keep any of it.

6 weeks too short, 8 weeks half decent, 10 weeks is a good starter.

Test enanthate/cypionate 10 weeks + anadrol 50-100mg ED (2 doses either way) first 4 weeks.

For a first timer dbol is probably better, alot of people have problems dealing with anadrol even at 50mg daily, headaches and blood pressure. I on the other hand can deal with nearly anything which may be linked to a lower than normal receptor count. Test works great, an oral in the early part of the cycle helps get it going. Even with this in place almost everyone can't keep much of thier anadrol gains.

I'm currently on test/deca + 100mg green meanie anadrol daily, 2 doses.

If you absolutely had to run a 6 week cycle, then use test prop and go with daily or every other day injections.



Posted by: BUSTINOUT

over 50mg/day of anadrol is not necessary. 150mg/ day is flat our silly.



Posted by: Power Rabbit

mudge is absolutely right the cycle has many probs

... your tapering...thats mostly been proved bunk and is worthless

your not running any test....wich is a nono

your not running anything past it wich means the sec you come off your gonna lose nearly everything you get...

A-BOMBs will put alot on you...but they are the number 1 steroid for losing all of your gains when you go off



Posted by: Mudge

Yep, I dont see any post cycle either. Abombs dont do much of anything for me size wise like they do other people, I either increase the diet or I see nothing. Some people gain weight out of thin air, I am not one of them.



Posted by: Gray

okay all what about this cycle for some super mass ? and by the way i allready eat 6 meals a day :0) okay heres the cycle

http://www.eurosteroids.com/product_...5a458b09be87b8 im not buying it from here i just wonderd if the cycle was a good one ?????



Posted by: BUSTINOUT

Quote:
Originally posted by Mudge
Yep, I dont see any post cycle either. Abombs dont do much of anything for me size wise like they do other people, I either increase the diet or I see nothing. Some people gain weight out of thin air, I am not one of them.
I hear ya. My very first cycle consisted of a-bombs, test, deca and I put on nearly 40lbs. That kind of enitial weight gain really sucks though. My system was a wreck.



Posted by: BUSTINOUT

I still see no need for 150mg/day of A-50. Also, I'd axe the sust. Go with 500mg/wk of cyp or enanthate throughout the whole cycle. Also, I would incorporate 100mg/EOD of prop to get test levels up. Of course if you are taking the drols, that is really not necessary. I use the prop at the beginning and end of every cycles because I don't dick with the orals much any more. Again, cyp and sust is not necessary IMHO



Posted by: Gray

okay can someone type me out a 2 month cycle i could use for serious mass please and name the complete steriod name.



Posted by: BUSTINOUT

what do you consider serious mass?



Posted by: Gray

I have 4 thousand caloires a day i only weigh 12 stone i want to get to at least 18 stone lol i know i wont get that from one cycle but i want to get real big dont care even if it gets me fat ill work it of afterwords,

Would like a 2 month cycle that can put some serious bulk on me and make me grow =)))) i dont care about look leaness etc just want big bulk and to lift weights.



Posted by: BUSTINOUT

Do you care whether you keep the gains or not?



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Gray
just want big bulk and to lift weights.
You dont lift weights currently? Do you know how to count calories? Someone previously thought they were eating as much as I was and was taking in almost half the protein and half the carbs



Posted by: Gray

To give you a little detail about me:
I am a W.A.B.B.A. (World Amateur Body Building) senior trainer. W.A.B.B.A
are seen as the elite throughout the world. I have a sports
science/nutrition degree. I have been a fitness pro for over 10 years. I
understand your problems as I was the same shape (now 18.5 stone - 20 inch
biceps) all totally drug free. I am a veggie and have a muscle wasting
disease - if I can achieve this -I KNOW YOU DAMN WELL CAN!!!!

OKAY this is my personal trainer hes been training me for 3 years and i follow his diet so dont say i cant count i came here for advice on a steriod cycle for mass.



Posted by: Mudge

I asked you if you know how to count them, I did not say anywhere in there that you cannot do so.

There is no need to be abusive, if you can't control yourself I will start editing your posts.



Posted by: macyn

week sustanon dbol deca mg. nolvadex clomid
1 500 2xday20mg 100
2 500 2X20 200
3 500 2x30 300 20mg
4 500 2x30 400 20mg
5 500 2x20 400 20mg
6 500 2x10 300 20mg
7 500 200 20mg
8 500 100 20mg 50mg
9 50mg
10 50mg


I took this off of a website, and did the reaserch, its seems to be a pretty good stack. im a newbie though so do some serious research as i still am, but IMO sustanon is a great start, i hear nothing but great things for it, and anyone knows dbol and deca area great to stack, the nolvadex and clomid are to prevent bitch tits, and to get your natural testosterone back up, im thinking about maybe taking the clomid into weeks 11 and 12 though, any suggestions on this?



Posted by: macyn

shit guys sorry, that post got all jacked around once i subbmitted it, i hope you can see where they are supposed to go! it got all mixed up
sorry!!



Posted by: macyn

week 1-8 sustonan 500 a wek.... dbol week 1 2*20, week2 2*30, week3 2*30, week4 2*20, week5 2*10...... Deca weeks 1-8 as follows.... 100, 200, 200, 400, 400, 300, 200, 100, nolvadex weeks 3-8 20mg day, clomid weeks 8-10 50 mg day.



Posted by: Mudge

Sustanon is not bad, I used it for my first cycle, but it is expensive as test goes. It has 4 different esters of test which means more labor for the company to produce it, plus being 4 different tests some people believe it will have some kind of magical effect. Probably this stems from people who believe that each steroid attaches to its own receptor, and an ester is just an ester, once the ester is removed you have raw test in your system so really there is nothing special about it outside of HRT.

Enanthate or cypionate would be a better buy, although they will not start showing results for another 1-2 weeks because of the lack of prop. Now when using straight propionate I start seeing it at the end of the first week, but with daily shots it gets old after about a month.

Test + dbol would be a great first cycle, I wouldn't get overly complex with more than 2 compounds, JMO.



Posted by: Power Rabbit

if this is your first cycle ever take a baby step or 2...go straight test....500 ent - 750 ent ..

so yoor looking at

week 1 1gram of test
2 500mg
3 500mg
4 500mg
5 500mg
6 500mg
7 500mg
8 500mg

week 11 40mg nolva(ED)
12 20mg(ED)
13 20mg(ED)
14 20mg(ED)
15 20mg(ED)

yes its a very simple cycle...but this way you can see how you react to gear(whether you are receptive to it or not)...and more importantly,how sides sensitive you are...

Say someone tells you a big bulking cycle ...something along the lines of a gram of test a week, abombs, and deca...you will be doin some serious stuff with no clue how your body reacts to the juice...

now you might think....i know ill react one way..."Ill get HOOOOGE!"...but if your sides sensitive, so will your tits...



Posted by: Mudge

I wouldn't go over 500 for the first time, I'm not sure I even like the front load idea. It may well work for him, earlier on I got gyno symptoms from it. Oddly enough or not, I can run plenty higher now with no problems, however I am running some arimidex with my cycle, .25mg ED.

I need to double check but I should have about one more week before my blood levels are as high as they will get.



Posted by: macyn

sweet guys, thanks for the info, i think i will make my first cycle more simpler... mudge if i did choost sust, would you recomend that maybe i start out with 250 a week for the first couple weeks, then go to 500? and would you keep the dbol the same? Also i was thinking about extending the clomid for 2 weeks just to ensure i get my test back up would this be a good idea?



Posted by: Gray

Ive decided to use this cycle people

http://www.nosourceposting.net/cycle...abol_cycle.htm

Should this be okay and sorry mudge i got the wrong end of the stick.



Posted by: Power Rabbit

if this cycle is supposed to include pct they are sadly mistaken.....sust, and more importantly deca stays active in your system for a long time....pct shouldnt even start till about 3 weeks of last deca jab...then pct should at least be 3-4 weeks...this thing has pct start immidately after your last jab and last for a grand total of 2 weeks...

guy, let me give you some advise....online stores are not the place to get your cycle info...there are lots of stickys on alot of quality gear boards that will give you decent, informed cycles...



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by macyn
mudge if i did choost sust, would you recomend that maybe i start out with 250 a week for the first couple weeks, then go to 500? and would you keep the dbol the same? Also i was thinking about extending the clomid for 2 weeks just to ensure i get my test back up would this be a good idea?
I would only start out with 250 if you were worried about gyno, if your bodyfat is not high there is no reason to worry about this. If you start out with less it will take even longer for blood levels to peak, meaning a less effective overall cycle.

Dbol 25mg for the first 4 weeks sounds about right, but it can be played with a little.

I would run nolvadex or clomid for at least 3 weeks, I dont like what clomid does to my skin or mood though so I dont use it any longer.



Posted by: Mudge



Here is the cycle you had in your link.

Tapering, boy is that an old timers cycle. Drugs have a half life, therefore they taper by themselves. All you do is reduce your gains by using such a mechanism.



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Power Rabbit
sust, and more importantly deca stays active in your system for a long time....pct shouldnt even start till about 3 weeks of last deca jab...
Exactly this is the drugs half life at work. It doesn't just leave your system after the last shot, if it DID then there would be the requirement to shoot it like suspension, 2-3 times daily.



Posted by: Gray

so what i shouldent use that lol Well what about for 8 weeks take 500mg of decca once a week for 8 weeks, and 30 mg of d-bol per day is this okay ????????

how much could i gain of that or is their something better ?



Posted by: Mudge

I would rather run test + dbol, deca is ok I suppose but if you want the use of your penis any time within the next 6-12 months then run test, not deca by itself.

Or test + deca, I am running test/deca at a 2:1 ratio.

Testosterone levels is what makes men, men - what could be better? Test is best.



Posted by: Power Rabbit

i still stick by the cycle i posted as a good first cycle...you will get big gains from your first cycle..period... so there isnt a need for the deca imo...



Posted by: Mudge

Yep, keep it simple especially for a first cycle, all I ran was test and low dose at that. I put 65 pounds on my bench and kept about 17 pounds. Even with this moderate strength gain it was enough to put me in pain when doing a 5 rep scheme.

As you get stronger, and older, you learn to play it safe. I dont want to be out of the game for years due to a bicep tear or something that might end up permanently destroying your workouts for the rest of your life even. Some people have near complete recoveries from things like this, some dont.



Posted by: Gray

Hmm i just heard decca is ment to help make your gains from sust and d-bol solid. okay now you say test makes a man, I heard sust is the best test as it hits all receptor sites, Only reason i thought of decca is cause i want to make big gains and keep them cause i only want to cycle roids once.

power rabbit your cycle is a powerfull one then but how much of the gains would i keep i hate the idea of most gains falling off after a cycle that simply sucks lol.



Posted by: Gray

week 1 1gram of test
2 500mg
3 500mg
4 500mg
5 500mg
6 500mg
7 500mg
8 500mg

week 11 40mg nolva(ED)
12 20mg(ED)
13 20mg(ED)
14 20mg(ED)
15 20mg(ED)

Okay i will use this for the 8 weeks of test i would like to add 30mg of d-bol in 2 :0) allso for the nolva from week 11 to 15 do i take a 20mg tab everyday ?



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Gray
I heard sust is the best test as it hits all receptor sites
Brother, I am telling you again, that wherever you are getting your information is old timers LEGEND.

There is no seperate receptor for different esters of testosterone. The ester is removed and testosterone is testosterone! It is that simple.

Sustanon is not better than enanthate or cypionate. If anything is 'better' it may be propionate or suspension because you get more testosterone, with those compounds though you are injecting daily, with suspension you will be using a large gauge needle and shooting yourself 2-4x daily, fun fun fun and nice pain inducing shots at that.

I dont know what website you get this stuff from but its all old school BS, this is the age of science not gym legend. Mankind did not invent seperate testosterone esters for magically seperate receptor sites. The purpose of sustanon and its 4 contained esters, was for people that get a shot and have propionate being released almost immediately into the blood stream (slowly over a few days time) and then the longer esters over the next days - overall giving it an active half life of 15 days. So for someone taking weekly shots this is of no concern at all.

Feel free to add in the dbol. I caution again with the front load, for a first cycle I would not recommend it, and with the dbol it is not needed. 8 weeks is a short cycle but that is your choice.

ED means every day, yes.



Posted by: Gray

ah okay thanks for your help will take your adive mudge someone else told me on another board on www.muscleforum.co.uk hes called biker he said do 8 weeks of 500mg of test a week (either test enanthate or sustanon)

For the first 6 weeks also run 30 mg of dianabol each day, split into 3 doses of 10mg (2 pills)

i think i iwll go with that



Posted by: Power Rabbit

sounds good...:-)



Posted by: Mudge

I like to take a dbol with each meal, but 3x is not terrible I spose, it has a 3.5-4 hour half life though so I try to stick to that



Posted by: Gray

okay finished thanks for all your help lol when i start my cycle i will post my progress on here or my before and after pics.



Posted by: Mudge

Happy Birthday dude



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