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underground labs' M1T... input please.


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Posted by: 19-chief

what's the deal with this stuff? is it any good? i mean i know i keep reading how strong this stuff can be but why is this brand so inexpensive?


the reason i'm asking is b/c i just finished my first PH cycle, 1-tu and androdiol select 300 for about 5 weeks. i am pretty happy with the results...

started at 165# @ ~12% BF
currently at 178# @ ~10% BF
made strength gains of about 125% all the way around.

... and i am also currently using 6oxo in a downhill run dosage for about 3-4 weeks.


Posted by: dg806

This same question has been asked. Raw material is cheap!
It is top quality.


Posted by: 19-chief

thanks 806... do you think 6oxo will be sufficient post m1t cycle or do i need something stronger... nolva, clomid, hgc?


Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally posted by 19-chief
what's the deal with this stuff? is it any good? i mean i know i keep reading how strong this stuff can be but why is this brand so inexpensive?


I believe that it's Mike's own brand, so essentially there is not "middleman".


Posted by: tk...

this is DIRT cheap,

definately my next cycle along with some 4 ad and some milk thistle


Posted by: M.J.H.

Yeah stacking M1T together with 4-AD and maybe some 6OXO afterwards seems to be most effective for the people who have tried it, from what I have seen. That is, if you want to go the prohoromone/anabolic route.


Posted by: dg806

Quote:
Originally posted by 19-chief
thanks 806... do you think 6oxo will be sufficient post m1t cycle or do i need something stronger... nolva, clomid, hgc?
Good question. I haven't tried M-1T yet so I can't say for sure. Some say yes, some say no. But I've seen evidence of total test shutdown in just 3 days of use. So I would lean toward something stronger.


Posted by: 19-chief

thanks again 806.

does anyone have any suggestions for nolvadex dosing post cycle? i know i can go to universalkits... but what's the dosing schedule?


Posted by: dg806

40mg/day week 1-2
After that you can drop to 30mg/day
It is also in the stickie "new members start here" in the supp section


Posted by: SJ69

OK, enough about the low prices, before you know it the price will go up in order to get more customers, reverse marketing.
I'm going with the Nolva for PCT, after all this is steroid, why treat it like a PH?


Posted by: Mudge

1Fast has had low prices for as long as I have shopped there, he doesn't seem to subscribe to sodomy-pricing schemes.


Posted by: prolangtum

6-OXO probaly wont cut it for PCT, opt for nolvadex


Posted by: JerseyDevil

Ditto. 6OXO is fine for 1-AD or even transdermal 1-test. But for M1T, nolva should be considered a requirement. M1T shuts you down hard. One guy on another site has access to lab equipment and can run his own blood tests. After just THREE days on 30 mg of M1T, his natural testosterone dropped from 438 ng/dl to 40 ng/dl.


Posted by: 19-chief

i know i ask a lot of questions guys... and i might even be a dumb-ass, but i'm just wanting to do this right the first time.

Liquid Nolva
Tamoxifin Citrate
30mg/ml


is this the stuff i'm looking for? 40mg/day for 1 week and 30mg/day for the next... and i should be good post m1t???
i just want to be fully prepared for the next cycle... my plan is to do the underground labs m1t (5mg tabs) at 10mg once/day for the first week (if no sides) and possibly bump it 15mg (10 in the am and 5 before i train) for almost 2 more weeks then back down to 10mg first the last week. if my research on the nolva is right, do i wait any after my last dosage of m1t before i begin my post cycle?

or

do i lose the pyramid scheme and go 2 on 10-15/day and 2 off running nolva after each 2 week cycle?


Posted by: plouffe

Quote:
Originally posted by 19-chief
thanks again 806.

does anyone have any suggestions for nolvadex dosing post cycle? i know i can go to universalkits... but what's the dosing schedule?
www.powernutrition.net is cheaper, I'd go with that.


Posted by: 19-chief

plouffe,
what product are you refering to?


Posted by: prolangtum

nolvadex


Posted by: plouffe

Quote:
Originally posted by prolangtum
nolvadex
Yep. Comes in differnet flavors too.


Posted by: 19-chief

plouffe, tried pull up that site and had some trouble but i got the liquid nolva from universalkits... and i got a bottle of the ungerground labs' m1t... the next thing i think, from my reading, is to get some milk thistle for liver protection. i'll be sure to start a thread in a few weeks when i hit that cycle. still got 2 weeks left of taper with the 6oxo. (see thread starter post) if any one cares, it's been 7 days since my last doses of 1-tu and 4ad and yesterday was my PR with DB presses... 1 set 60's for 12 to warm up then 1 set of 70's to test the waters for 12 and it felt good so i went for 3 sets of 85's for 10... i was way stoked that i was getting stronger! wieght is down some from the high of 178.. down to 172.5 but i feel like it was water b/c i can see more definition. 'til next time boys...


Posted by: 19-chief

fully found that site... it looks pretty sick... too bad i sopent more at the other place but at least i have the PCT. i'm gonna keep this other one in mind... lots of "research" goods. thanks for the turn on!


Posted by: Eggs

Speaking of which... whens that M1T going to be restocked Mike?



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