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Posted by: worddog

just curiose to see what yall think of these products from vpx. I am 5'9" 190 im not hardcore or anything just trying to cut up a little.



Posted by: Var

Expensive. You can get comparable products much cheaper. Which were you looking at???



Posted by: worddog

like where



Posted by: Var

Depends on which of their products you're looking at

Edit: They make quality products. If you have cash and don't want to shop around, I don't think they have too many products that arent good quality. Like I said though...expensive.



Posted by: worddog

well something to the effect of Xenabol. also just curios of the effectivness also what happens when discontinued do you loose all results



Posted by: Var

I havent heard any feedback on that product. Have you used prohormones before? If you're looking to cut up, diet is the best way to do it. As far as supplements, they have a product called Redline which is a good thermogenic. Ephedra is the best fat loss supp IMO, but it'll be illegal soon.



Posted by: worddog

I have dieted but it seems that I have kind of hit a stopping point i have maintaned mass but cant seem to loose any more bf I am about 11-12 % but cant really beat that it seems no matter how much cardio



Posted by: Var

Cardio is just a small part of losing fat. Concentrate more on your diet. Posting your current diet in the nutrition forum is a good idea. Like I said, ephedra is my choice for a fat loss supp. Redline is a good product if you're looking at VPX (and ephedra free)



Posted by: Prince

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Originally posted by worddog
I have dieted but it seems that I have kind of hit a stopping point i have maintaned mass but cant seem to loose any more bf I am about 11-12 % but cant really beat that it seems no matter how much cardio
if your diet/nutrition and training are being done correctly you could get much lower than that without any "fat burning" supplements.



Posted by: andyo

The Xenabol I took about 1 year ago, and got nothing but bloating and water retention.

But, their Liquid Clenbutrx and Redline and 1-test and Deca and 4-oh are all great from what my experiences are.



Posted by: BabsieGirl

Ask GoPro



Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by andyo
The Xenabol I took about 1 year ago, and got nothing but bloating and water retention.

But, their Liquid Clenbutrx and Redline and 1-test and Deca and 4-oh are all great from what my experiences are.
You got bloating and water retention from Xenabol??? Someone must of spiked your milk with 4-AD b/c its just about impossible to get those effects from Xenabol! Xenabol is a non-aromatizing androgenic with anti-estrogen effects. Its MAIN purpose is to dry you out and make you harder and more ripped. That would be the effect of any 5AA product!




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