If i wanted to throw in Fina for the remainder of my cycle... would i take out the equipoise.... or just add it 2 it... because i can get my hands on some and i have never tried it..... Figured it would be a good idea since it has Such a short halflife... and ED injections rite? 100mg a day? or is that 2 much... info would be great
Posted by: Just a guy
50mg's a day i meant
Posted by: dg806
most do 75mg/EOD
Posted by: Mudge
ED or EOD, I would go EOD unless you are completely anal about blood levels. Most setups are 75mg/ml, so 50mg would be a pain to administer anyway.
Posted by: Just a guy
well nah... this shit i got is 200mg/ML or i can get 100mg/ML
Posted by: Mudge
Is that tren acetate or enanthate? If its acetate EOD is fine, 100mg.
Posted by: Just a guy
ACETATE
Posted by: Just a guy
what weeks should i use it if i was doing a 16 weeks cycle?? should i keep my dosage of EQ at 600mg's and my test still a 1G?
Posted by: Just a guy
another Question.... can i switch to enthante for the last weeks?? Would i still be makin immediate gains or will that have to build up in my blood also?? i need some Quik replies
Posted by: Mudge
It takes a couple weeks for blood levels to build, but you can do whatever you want really. You can use fina any old time, but being fast acting it would probably at least be nice in the beginning to get things moving. If you have no HCG though you may want to save it for the end.
Posted by: Just a guy
hey... what about switching to prop.... because i can get a prop/Tren Mix
Posted by: Mudge
For some reason people say prop/tren is painfull, I mixed it at home just fine but it wasn't 100/100 per ml, it was obviously 2ml. Prop/tren is great, I ran it ED for 40 days, then switched to cypionate/fina.
Posted by: Just a guy
well listin.... tell me what u think... I;m going to switch to Prop and Fina With 600mg's of equipoise..... now for PCT i would discontinue EQ around week 13 or 14... and continue with the Prop and Fina up too 16 weeks... then start my PCT 2 or 3 days after last shot.... what u think?
Posted by: Just a guy
i'll Buy them seperate... what would be a good dosage... since i was on 1gram of test
Posted by: Just a guy
cmon i need to know .... tryin to get everything worked out... i want be able to sleep tonite if i dont!
Posted by: Just a guy
someone??
Posted by: DEEPSEA
IMO..run the EQ till 14..more time the better w/ EQ.
50-75mg ED of TREN. (try the 75 & if sides are tough...drop it to 50mg.) Personally, 75mg/ed is perfect for me ...anything over that & I get too uncomfortable.
What kind of TEST are u on? TEST is TEST , it is the ester that changes things. I, personally, would stop the EQ & the long-e TEST (if that is waht u are using) & switch to PROP/TREN for as long as u desire. In order to begin post right after u would need to run it atleast 2-3 weeks after EQ. Otherwise just push-off pct & use the TREN/PROP while u cut (adjust your diet & this is a GREAT combo to cut with) I have run TREN/PROP/WINNY past my long esters till my pct in the past & the results were GREAT.
But that is JMHO
Posted by: Just a guy
push off Pct? So explain it a little more for me... how many weeks we talking hear.... im up for it.. if u can help me
Posted by: Just a guy
im currently on 1,000mg;s of test Cyp and 600mg's of EQ
Posted by: DEEPSEA
All I mean really is extending cycle to reap some benny's from the TREN/PROP. At the least...u would need to run it 2-2 & 1/2 weeks...any less & u would still have to wait some for the pct.
-The recommended time after last shot of EQ is 17-21 days. With the above method..I use the PROP & TREN to "fill this gap" I prefer to juice to the last day possible. The recommended wait for post after PROP & TREN is only 3 days.
So (this sounds confusing as I read it...sorry) what I am saying is preferebly run the EQ 14 weeks. After the EQ (drop the long-e TEST too) & switch right away to TREN/PROP...u can run it for those 17-21 days that u must wait for the EQ to 1/2 itself away at the min. Or if u like how the PROP/TREN is workin for u...run with it...extend till..whenever (I have heard of FINA run for 45 days w/o any problems..but that is extreme) As soon as u decide to stop TREN/PROP (your choice) wait 3 days & begin PCT.
FYI...I always run WINNY with my TREN as a safety. I am a bit leery of progest. gyno.
Hope I explained it correctly.
Again, this is what I have done with GREAT sucess but maybe someone else like MUDGE has a diff. idea.
Good Luck..DS
Posted by: Just a guy
err i was thinking about running the Prop and Fina for about 6 weeks.... is that pushing it with the Fina?
Posted by: DEEPSEA
Nope
Posted by: DEEPSEA
BTW..as MUDGE said AWESOME COMBO...I got strong as SH*T!
Posted by: Just a guy
I hear that... well i appreciate the help... going to go ahead and get that ordered.... u tha man
Posted by: DEEPSEA
Like I said...that is just how I like to do it. ENJOY!
Posted by: Mudge
I ran 100/100 ED, 700 each a week. After awhile I had to cut the fina down to 75mg or so, I was having sleep issues, for some people it gets better as time wears on. Remember that prop is more potent per mg due to the ester weight.
Ester actual mg/100mg dose
test no ester 100
tren acetate 87
test prop 83
test enanth 72
test cyp 70
test undecan 63
Posted by: Mudge
Quote:
Originally posted by Just a guy
err i was thinking about running the Prop and Fina for about 6 weeks.... is that pushing it with the Fina?
Only you can answer that. Some people get sides, some dont, some like me have less. I had sleep loss and mild aggression, to the point that I think I flipped off two people driving to work, talk about uncontrollable rage.
Some can handle it, some cant, my sides seem to be pretty low overall on gear.
Or, just run 200 prop and 100 fina EOD, that would put you 700/350.
Posted by: DEEPSEA
I got the sleep problems too.
But ..How I DO luv tasting the TREN after u inject..
Posted by: Just a guy
ahh shit fellas... Aint fina.. Tren? i Got Trenbolone Acetate... thats the same thing as finaplix rite?
Posted by: Just a guy
bump
Posted by: DEEPSEA
Well..techniquely no. Finaplex is a cattle implant used to increase lbm before slaughter. Trenbolone acetate is the steroid IN the Finaplex pellet. For humans to use the TREN..u must convert the pellet (there are TONS of threads on how to do that) & extract the TREN. OR buy Tren which is now available from ug labs & Mexican companies like QV, Ttokkyo (before they went belly-up) & Loeffler. (BD & WDV make TREN products also).
-Hope that answers that..
Posted by: Mudge
So far as I know Ttokkyo is still being run, its just the big cheese thats in custody over the GHB thing.
J.B. at SS said they went out over a year ago. I dunno...I like their stuff myself (better than QV) except the VAR which I was told tested-out as Drol or Dbol..(ouch for the ladies)
Too many fakes floatin around right now anyway..
Posted by: Mudge
IPs var tested as anadrol, although the tests were fishy IMO. I dont know about Ttokkyo because one person says one thing, another says something else. I used them for my first cycle (sust) but never again (didn't have to anymore), worked all right though. I used QV and UG stuff afterwards, but with QVs rep what it is now I would not use them.
Posted by: DEEPSEA
No doubt UG is the way to go..
I keep ckin' my "p.o." box for my TREN/PROP blend & SUSP. that I decided on...should slide in nicely to an already great stack..
Can't wait to try human-grade TREN for once..
Posted by: DEEPSEA
I don't know what I believe about TT either but J.B. is one smart MOD...really ontop of stuff.
Whateva!
Posted by: Mudge
Powder tren is nice stuff, most if not all UG stuff is from powder, but costs more than home made of course (unless you have access to the powder in the first place).
Posted by: DEEPSEA
I hear ya..I have done the powder thing myself before but not worth the trouble IMO & it was tough to REALLY stay sterile duriong the whole process. My bro has an UG lab & hangs most stuff for me if I just have the powder sent to him. Doesn't get easier than that.
The fact that he uses an autoclave(sp?) alone is VERY reassuring to me..
Posted by: Just a guy
I got my fina and prop today... can i go ahead and start the fina for the remainding 10 weeks of my cycle along with the 1gram of Test cyp and the 600Mg's of EQ.... and then on about the 12th week drop the EQ, and the Test cyp... and then go with prop at 100mg ED for the last 4 weeks+ and winstrol 50mg's a day with the 75MG of Tren ED..
Posted by: Just a guy
its a 16-18 week cycle
Posted by: Just a guy
bump
Posted by: Just a guy
cmon.. i need some help
Posted by: Mudge
Help with what bro? If you want to run it, run it, ED or EOD is your choice.
Posted by: Just a guy
LoL just makin sure it wasnt like the Winstrol yall TOLD me not to run till the Very VERY end... just makin sure my man... good look
Posted by: Mudge
The only issues with fina if you didn't go bald from winstrol would be possible sleep issues and aggrivation, but at the doses you have lined up you should be fine.
Posted by: prolangtum
Did you do any research at all before you started this cycle? 1 gram of Test a week is a lot for someone who doesnt even know trenebolone acetate is the compound in finaplix
Posted by: Just a guy
nah i just didnt know anything about Tren... never really studied on it until now... thx
Posted by: Just a guy
and i knew it was the same thing... just it the other guy's posts they kept switching names from tren to fina... i just makin sure man
Posted by: crackerjack414
i preffer tren from powder acetate or eth
Posted by: Mudge
I have to admit that UG from powder worked better than pellet for me.
Posted by: Power Rabbit
well with fina tren your getting shortchanged twice...cause the pellets may be underdosed, and your conversion wont render all of the product
Posted by: Mudge
Conversion loss is low if done properly, as for underdosing I have never seen or heard of any evidence of that. I will use much less heating during my next batch though, that could have something to do with it. I ran a survey though and people agree that powder is better, only one person that I recall said they work about the same.
