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Some people are just stupid i guess...

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Posted by: cmf85ro

I'd just like to tell you about smth i saw in the gym yesterday. There was this guy at the leg press. He had, let's say... ummm average legs (or less!). Anyway, he was working with 195 Kg (that's about 400 lbs I think). Not that I don't admire such (foolish?!?) people (for their will) but he was obviously out of his league. I thought he was going to blow his kneecaps anytime

. I know this may seem as a dumb question but... why are some people so dumb? Overtraining is never the answer!

Take care,
cmf85ro

Posted by: supertech

Lot a poeple are just showing off,trying to lift more weight then they should be.

Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Its worse at my highschool. The guys overtrain 24/7...but i guess its not their fault, they have only had old-fashioned coaches telling them what to do their whole life.

They will do bench 2 times a day everyother day. Squats 3 days in a row. biceps evrey night for 4 sets of 12. I hate it, and they never want to listen to me when i tell them they are overtraining.

Only a few actually train smartly.

Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Some people are even worse, and i mean horrible.
Like a couple of guys i know will do powerlifting in the morning, then in athletics do more working out, then go again after school!

And they arent hitting diff muscles everytime, its the same muscles all day!
I cant stand it.

Posted by: oaktownboy

they aren't "stupid" they just have no idea what they are doing.

Posted by: Mex

When they don't know what they're doing, it's ignorance.

When you try to educate them (well, that sounds arrogant, but at least offer some literature about what is overtraining and such), and they don't care, then that's stupid. They're probably just young, or their first time in the gym.

I learned long ago not to bother anyone when in the gym, they have to figure things out by themselves. They'll either learn, or give up soon.

Posted by: JLB001

They are "clueless"!!!!!!

Posted by: cmf85ro

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Originally posted by JLB001
They are "clueless"!!!!!!

Yup! That's the right name for them I think!

Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Thats what i saying though, they listen but then totally disregard it. They wont even try it for a couple of weeks

Posted by: HoldDaMayo

i try to disconcern myself with other people in the gym... i mean what irritates me is an obese couple with an overweight kid filling their shopping carts with hostess products, cookies, candy, and a ton of other rubbish...

Posted by: JLB001

I know! Doens't that suprise you Hold? They wonder why...but then don't look to see what they eat. More Clueless......

Posted by: SJ69

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Originally posted by cmf85ro
He had, let's say... ummm average legs (or less!). Anyway, he was working with 195 Kg (that's about 400 lbs I think). Not that I don't admire such (foolish?!?) people (for their will) but he was obviously out of his league. I thought he was going to blow his kneecaps anytime

. I know this may seem as a dumb question but... why are some people so dumb? Overtraining is never the answer!

Take care,
cmf85ro

What makes you think he was overtraining? Maybe he was just pushing his limits. If he was the getting the reps in good form then he would be foolish to use less weight.

Posted by: cmf85ro

Well I think it's pretty easy to overdo it with such a machine... It's not extremly hard to push great weights with it but in my opinion if your muscles aren't developed enough for this task, although you may lift/push the weight, you will put a huge stress on your joints (the kneecaps for example) and on the long run I think that this may prove to be a great problem. Not to talk about the fact that with such a weight his middle section was probably extremply compressed. But then again I might be wrong...

Posted by: plouffe

I'd have to agree with SJ69 - Using heavy weight ain't overtraining...

Posted by: CowPimp

If he can't handle the weight and he injures himself, then he will learn quickly.

Posted by: once was fat

For me the stupid people are the ones that say im getting to skinny or did you get sick? Are you ok? Then my response is yeh im ok and no im not sick I was sick when I was overweight by 60lbs and I used to have high blood pressure. Every single person that tells me this is overweight. Now that is stupid people for you. I dont get it my abs are starting to show my body is becoming very lean and im building muscle but I always get the your to skinny. Then I look around and 95% of the people I see in public are overweight.

I think people have gotten used to seeing everyone overweight that when they look at a person that is healthy and lean they come to there own conculsion that this person is skinny. It is like america has been brainwashed over the years.

I cant wait until I look cut to the max then I will wait for someone to call me skinny and I will asked them to take there shirt off and I will take my shirt off and we will compare.

I remeber when all the years how embearced I was to take my shirt off in front of someone or in public now it feels good to do so.

Posted by: JLB001

Hey...injuries suck!!!! I'm dealing with one now. tron cartlidge in the knee that was sliced on Thursday.

Posted by: x~factor

I bet he was using his arms to push the weight which is not a bad idea, come to think about it. It saves time. You get to work out your legs and your triceps while using the leg press machine.

Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

chest too, think about it, same as doing decline bench

Posted by: MeLo

somehow i dont tend to see it. A person leg pressing 400lbs??? That's pretty light for a leg press if you dont know.

I'd know a few friends who can do 800lbs and i can do about 650lbs myself

Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

yea but he was talking about a guy with legs like a 10 year old

Posted by: Smaug

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Originally posted by MeLo
somehow i dont tend to see it. A person leg pressing 400lbs??? That's pretty light for a leg press if you dont know.

I'd know a few friends who can do 800lbs and i can do about 650lbs myself

Sounds like your using a weight stack cable machine, cause most people can do that if more on the cable stack machine. This guy was using an actual leg press machine with the plates, cause man, hardly any intense huge as hell guy can load what, 800 pounds...That's 18 45 lbs plates, god the machines can hardly even hold that much dude, if they even can fit 9 on each side. 400 lbs with plates is damn hard and not alot of people can even do that.

Posted by: cmf85ro

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Originally posted by MeLo
somehow i dont tend to see it. A person leg pressing 400lbs??? That's pretty light for a leg press if you dont know.

I'd know a few friends who can do 800lbs and i can do about 650lbs myself

The press i'm referring to is horizontal not declined. And the maximum weight was about 500 lbs...

Posted by: x~factor

Yea, there are different kinds of leg press machines. Depending on the angle I could push out as little as 270 lbs and as much as 540 lbs. (yea, I ain't that strong. lol)

Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Originally posted by SJ69
What makes you think he was overtraining? Maybe he was just pushing his limits. If he was the getting the reps in good form then he would be foolish to use less weight.

That's what I was thinking. Was the guy getting limited range, or pulling his lower back off the machine or something? What makes you think he was out of his league?

My legs are pretty skinny, but I can easily push 720 on the leg press. If you looked at my legs and then looked at the machine, you'd think I was overdoing it.

Posted by: cmf85ro

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Originally posted by I Are Baboon
That's what I was thinking. Was the guy getting limited range, or pulling his lower back off the machine or something? What makes you think he was out of his league?

My legs are pretty skinny, but I can easily push 720 on the leg press. If you looked at my legs and then looked at the machine, you'd think I was overdoing it.

Well, he wasn't getting the full range of motion. Only 3/4 perhaps. And he also began with a big weight... smth around 200-250 pounds. I for one wouldn't begin with a weight like that. I'd warm up first on the machine, trying to get the legs used to that movement.

Posted by: Burner02

Highschool?
I lifted like a clueless person WAY back in the day. Had no idea how to lift. Was either doing bench or curls.....
Our gym 'coach' didn't even like people benching. Said it was a 'lazy' person's exercise..all you do is lay there and push.
Did not have the information available back in the late 80's that you do now. Not even sure if ew really had a computer lab with internet access back then. So it was hit-n-miss and trial and error.

Posted by: TheWizardC6

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My legs are pretty skinny, but I can easily push 720 on the leg press. If you looked at my legs and then looked at the machine, you'd think I was overdoing it.

Same thing here. My legs are pretty skinny, but my family all has rock solid bicycling legs. Probably genetics again. I rep 450 and I imagine that looks like I'm overdoing it.

I've never reaLLY tried the horizontal, so maybe its a lot harder.

But I agree with you that their are many people out there who "just don't know".

Posted by: maniclion

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Originally posted by Burner02
Highschool?
I lifted like a clueless person WAY back in the day. Had no idea how to lift. Was either doing bench or curls.....
Our gym 'coach' didn't even like people benching. Said it was a 'lazy' person's exercise..all you do is lay there and push.
Did not have the information available back in the late 80's that you do now. Not even sure if ew really had a computer lab with internet access back then. So it was hit-n-miss and trial and error, SMOKE SIGNALS AND PONY EXPRESS THEN WOO-HOO WE GOT THE TELEGRAPH

Posted by: HoldDaMayo

i hate when people put their comments inside the quote... bleh...

Posted by: EvilEdDanzig

Man, I just hate it when people get on me for using high volume workouts that take longer than they think I should. It just takes me a while to put in an efficient enough workout to thoroughly stress my muscles....there ARE a few exceptions;namely,my calves,chest and delts. I can hammer them in an hour or less, but i NEED at least 20 sets to really hammer the burn and the pump into my bis and tris....but hey,that's just me, and i NEVER push my crap onto other people saying that it's the "ONLY way to train"....I see it that there is a right way...and a bunch more right ways...and then just not knowing the right way for yourself...either you know what works for you or you do not and just hit the weights aimlessly.

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