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Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by Fitgirl70
Of course they're yours girl, and don't let anyone tell you differently
*snap* *snap*
girl power! UH HUH!
sorry i had to do that



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
allowed? noone has stopped you before.
yea well im tired of getting bitched out about when everyone else does the same thing



Posted by: JLB001

It's alright Cat...but that pic is soooooooooo BIG



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

alright...just for you ill take it out...



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

there you go...



Posted by: JLB001

LOL. I was getting use to it. It was pretty kewl. Can you resize it?



Posted by: Jill

Jodi, you look awesome in your pics, your abs kick ass. I aso love your chest! Great definition<-----her "chest" mycat, not her boobies!!!!



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
LOL. I was getting use to it. It was pretty kewl. Can you resize it?
i can put it as img instead of im2


LOL Jill good thing you clarified that...

actually i wouldnt have said anything....
damn everyone thinks im so perverted....im not that way in real life....but online its fun to express it



Posted by: JLB001

I don't have boobies anyways! You can ask Craig. They disappear into nothing.

Thank you Jillie. Still have a ways to go, but it is coming along. I just want legs NOW!!! I hate having tree trunks.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
I don't have boobies anyways! You can ask Craig. They disappear into nothing.

Thank you Jillie. Still have a ways to go, but it is coming along. I just want legs NOW!!! I hate having tree trunks.
just b/c you dont have 36DD doesnt mean yo;u dont have any lol...

I dont like large breasts anyway, they look like balloons
I like medium-small

dont quote me on that, if i told my friends that, they would start calling me a fag LOL



Posted by: JLB001

Umm...no comment!


Now Pesmerga is too small, double his size and he would be just right.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts


you are too hard too please

if you actually want to see it, just click on it


You puzzle me jodie, you really do
first you are like that pic is so big and annoying and now your telling me to make it bigger



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

is this one of those times you are trying to be motherly?



Posted by: greekblondechic

leave it as it is! hes a cute lil guy



Posted by: JLB001

I guess just leave him the size he is. LOL



Posted by: JLB001

This morning, we got up and did the am cardio thing. I think I was still half asleep when I got to the gym. We did 15 mins on the treadmill and 15 mins on the recumbent bike.



Posted by: Stacey

Hey girl--

Do you think I should do cardio with My knee still bothering me really bad??

Also, I read in my magazine last night that Naproxen (SP?) is bad to take when Trying To Conceive...that if I am pregnant right now, it could cause me to Miscarry. So I'm sticking to Advil & Tylenol!!!!

Hope you have a great day



Posted by: JLB001

I wouldn't do the cardio, could injure it more. Alieve would work too. I've never heard of Naproxen. I have Mobic for when I need it.

When are you gonna have it checked?



Posted by: Stacey

I don't know if I should have it checked yet or not.. Matt says I should. It pops in and out.. I told him to put his hand on it last night and then I moved my knee up and down..and it was popping.

It was hell walking around at the rodeo with it.. but My knee brace helped.

damn I hate not doing cardio~ But your right, don't want to hurt it more.



Posted by: greekblondechic

better be safe than sorry stacey hon

jodie i love when im still half asleep at the gym.. makes it much easier lol

just hope no cute guys see me while im falling asleep on the elliptical



Posted by: DrChiro

i love when we go to the gym in the morning and jodie is half asleep and bitchy....then it's really fun to do cardio with her!..as if cardio wasn't bad enough...thanks baby!

you know i am just giving you a hard time....love you!!!...have a great day at work!



Posted by: Fitgirl70

Mornin' Jodie! How is ya today?

Pretty here in Dallas today, but a little on the chilly side, wind is blowing awfully hard out there.



Posted by: DrChiro

naproxin sodium is the active ingredient in alleve...just the generic name....i agree, if you are trying to mix the baby batter...dont use it...as a matter of fact make sure that all meds you use are cleared by your ob/gyn or your GP (as long as they know you are trying to get pregnant).

i'm gonna make like a baby and head out!



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Morning...I hate morning cardio, my legs always feel numb and extra tired....

Quote:
i'm gonna make like a babt and head out!




Posted by: DrChiro

cardio can kiss my fat ass...beeeeatch!

hmmm....i smell reeses peanut butter cups.....someone is gettin their candy jacked!



Posted by: Stacey

Thank you Dr. C for the tips... I will definaltey look out for all drugs.

I wonder how Ginseng Root is??? hmmm?



Posted by: DrChiro

i am not sure...i know it does wonders on an upset tummy...and if you buy the kind with the sugar on it from whole foods they tase pretty damn good too!



Posted by: DrChiro

hey baby...sorry about the phone....sometimes it doesnt work too well in clinic because of the EKG machine....i'll call you in a few!



Posted by: DrChiro

stacey....i read it wrong...i thought it said ginger sorry.

(i cant read or write...hooked on phonics didnt work for me!)



Posted by: JLB001

Reese peanut butter cups? I haven't had any. That was Craig yesterday. He ate 3 packages of them and didn't bring me any. Meanie!

Umm, Craig...the grumpiness has hung around most of the morning so far..........kinda got snippy at Andrea.



Posted by: shortstuff

Hery Jodie how are things coming??? What have I missed, I feel so out of the loop. Haven't been on the computer much due to finals and now Spring Break. Bet you are looking HOT!!!



Posted by: JLB001

Short...I posted some pics from yesterday back on page 26, posts 774-778. It's coming along pretty well. Still have a ways to go.

How was Spring Break?? Did you have fun?? where's the pics???



Posted by: shortstuff

Thanks for the note on the pics, you look great!!! Spring Break is good, am still on it, in San Francisco, the weather is beautiful, am getting tan, just met Jenny Lynn, and am so hapbeing with the boyfriend. It makes me want to move here now!!!!!!!!



Posted by: JLB001

San Fran is beautiful! It still kinda freaks me out how people eat those blue crabs all from the same pot! Do they ever change the pots water? It's been almost 4 years since I have been there.



Posted by: shortstuff

I have no idea I will find out though for you



Posted by: jstar

SS - I love Jenny Lynn! That is cool that you got to meet her.

Jodie - you're coming along great! ...I just got my fabric samples from bodytecfitness. (so exciting)!



Posted by: JLB001

Awesome Jstar! I usually end up going through boxes and boxes at Bonnie's house when we go up there or have her pick me a color she thinks I would like.

Have you decided which sample yet?

Jenny Lynn? the fitness pro?



Posted by: Stacey

SS THAT IS SOOO COOL You got to meet Jenny Lynn!! Where were you at??



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by DrChiro
stacey....i read it wrong...i thought it said ginger sorry.

(i cant read or write...hooked on phonics didnt work for me!)
more like cronics



Posted by: Fitgirl70

Yeah, give us the scooby on Jenny Lynn. I really like her. Did you get any pics?



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by shortstuff
Thanks for the note on the pics, you look great!!! Spring Break is good, am still on it, in San Francisco, the weather is beautiful, am getting tan, just met Jenny Lynn, and am so hapbeing with the boyfriend. It makes me want to move here now!!!!!!!!
YOU KNOW THERE ARE 2 WOMEN KISSING IN YOUR GALLERY?




Posted by: JLB001

Not in mine.

Today has been the work day from hell!!! Bitchy and stress. not good.



Posted by: JLB001

Fawk..I want yellow cake with choc frosting 2 inchs thick or Martha White brownies with walnuts and choc chips. This day friggen blowsssssssssssssssssssssss.



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
Fawk..I want yellow cake with choc frosting 2 inchs thick or Martha White brownies with walnuts and choc chips. This day friggen blowsssssssssssssssssssssss.
Me too



Posted by: JLB001

I need partners in crime.


Get this shiot....I have to be at work at 8:30 then I get to go home at 11am! what gets more screwy is....on Thursday, I have to be here at 7am, we are having Chik-fil-a at the gate for residents as they go to work...but instead of letting me go home at 4pm that day...I get to go home tomorrow at 11am instead. SOOOOOOOOO....I get to work friggen forever on Thursday all because the assistant manager doesn't want to be here by herself. It's ok to leave me and Andrea alone all the time. I just don't get it. Maybe I should just bend over and say here is my rear...plz use no k.y.



Posted by: Jill





Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

mmmm im eating sweetarts



Posted by: JLB001

meanie! we had fish, french style green beans and salad. I found a salad dressing I like. Low fat Zesty Italian. mmm..

Tonight's workout was chest!
I know I am suppose to be doing 4 sets of 15 on everything, but I was dead by the third exercise so we drop it down to 3 sets after that.

Flat bench press
2x15@95, 1x11@115, 1x5@135
db flat flies
2x15@30, 40, 2x13@40
Incline db press
1X15@30, 1x10@40, 40 for 8 then dropset to 25 for 8
I died!
Cable Crossovers
3x15@40, 50, then back down to 40. (50 was a struggle and form sucked so dropped it back)

20 mins on the stair master set to intervals.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

wow! you amaze me jodie

did you see fear factor today??
there was an african chick on there

she was huge!!! arms must have been 16 or so



Posted by: JLB001

we were at the gym when Fear Factory came on. It was a late day for us since Craig has clinic late. They were doing the eyeballs.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

jodie go to read my poems



Posted by: Stacey

Hey Jodie-- that sucks about your hours on thursday. You guys are having chick fil a for the residents? Yum. So you stand outside and give it to them as they drive by??

Yesterday was a bitchy & stressed day for me too--I probably would have joined you in stuffing my face with yellow cake & Icing.

Did you have any??

I Hope today is a better day for you!!!!
ITS SO PRETTY Outside!



Posted by: JLB001

I wish I could have cake, but not today. Won't know till tomorrow if I can have a cheat food. We do bf at 8am. I've dropped 3lbs so something is coming off. Just glad it slowed down from the first two weeks. That kinda blew my mind dropping so much so quick. With a little less than 12 weeks left, we should be right on target if we are averaging 1.5 to 2 a week. Just have to make sure I eat enough meat as to not loose lbm.

Today is looking so much better! I'm only here until 11, then have to go to Eckerd's for makeup stuff, Walmart to have an oil change in my yucky car and then tan. Craig should be home around 3ish, so we'll get an early workout tonight.

How is the hubby's new work schedule and job going?



Posted by: Fitgirl70

OKAY No talk of cake and icing please!!!

Although I'm pretty syched myself -- I weighed this morning, not supposed to so don't tell Vic -- and I'm down another 2 lbs. I think this Lipo 6 is working!!!



Posted by: Stacey

Heya Jodie-- oh you should have a great day today sounds like. Thats good that you lost 3lbs..I agree its good it has slowed down a little.

Girl, Eckerds is way overpriced on their makeup and everything (by at leat 3.00) you should get it at walmart while your oil is being changed. My Mabilenne powder is 6 bucks at wal-mart...and at Eckerds its 11.00 ~ Unbelieveable.

I like the cards at Eckerds though

So far Matt loves his new job. They are showing him a lot of stuff that the other company didn't. Hes all hyped up about it. His hours while training are 4am to 4pm. Some days he gets off at 2pm though. But then his normal shift hours will be 4pm to 4am.
Thanks for asking It was nice having him home yesterday when I got home from work..and he bought me a Grilled chicken salad from wendys too.



Posted by: JLB001

They have my mascara on sale with a coupon for $3.99. Walmart has it for $5.99 last time I checked. Worth 2 bucks to drive across the street.

Cake??? Tam...you having cake?????? SHARE!



Posted by: Stacey

ohh thats great then Jodie!!!



Posted by: JLB001

I usually hold off on getting my base and mascra until it goes on sale. I think that is the only reason I get the Sunday paper. For the sale ads. I'd say for the coupons but I can't use most of those right now anyways.



Posted by: Fitgirl70

No, I'm not having any. Are you kidding?

You guys were talking about cake and icing yesterday! OK, so I came in on the conversation a little late....but still!!!! GEEEEZZZ...



I don't dare have any cake and icing so close to my weigh in,



Posted by: DrChiro

please dont get me wrong...you do need ground fighting skills just in case it heads that direction.....I just dont believe it is the "end-all-be-all" art that people seem to think it is because of the UFC competitions.

in all honesty, just knowing a few basic ground moves really well is enough IMO....they are relatively easy to use and apply and can be added to any style of martial arts....you may not be able to beat ken shamrock but your average pain in the ass drunk bastard doesnt stand a chance!



Posted by: DrChiro

hmmm...i seemed to have posted this in the wrong area......my bad.....jodie will tell you i can be stupid sometimes....this would be one of those times!



Posted by: butterfly

No not stupid, it's called a BRAIN FART



Posted by: butterfly

Hey Jodie



Posted by: DrChiro

do brain farts smell?......hmmmmm



Posted by: JLB001

Hi Ann!

Only farts from the rear smell Craig. Hanna and Katy's fart smell too!



Posted by: JLB001

Tam...if your dropping you can have 1 cheat food. Just don't eat the whole cake or whatever it is.

I'll know tomorrow if I can have one! I'm thinking brownies or cake. Maybe both. But only some of them, not the whole thing.



Posted by: Fitgirl70

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
But only some of them, not the whole thing.

Oh come on...have both
Don't have both...have all of both
Don't have all of both...have two of each!!



Okay, I'll have a cheat after I find out what my weigh in is on the 5th.



Posted by: JLB001

I'll probably have some of both.

Oh...the Carb Countdown Reduced Sugar Lowfat Yogurt taste like pooh!!!! Very bitter. The Carb Control Yogurt is much better IMO.



Posted by: BabsieGirl

Jodie, how are things coming along?



Posted by: JLB001

Babsie...pics on page 26 of journal from Sunday. We do bf in the morning so we'll know how that is going. I've dropped 3 lbs the last two weeks, so should be ok! leaves me with 14 more to go in the 12 weeks. I'm trying to hit 118 to 120 with 5% give or take a lil.



Posted by: BabsieGirl

I think you're going to make it hon. You're coming together really well. Your abs are going to look GREAT!!! I love the rear double bi pic.

Actually, I love all your pics. Can't wait to see the final result.

Will you post pic 6 weeks from comp or will you make us wonder from here on out?



Posted by: JLB001

Babsie..I am going to try and do new ones each week or so. I'll have the bf measurements tomorrow and will post them with the previous ones.



Posted by: BabsieGirl

SAWWWWWWEEEEEEETTTTTTT



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

wow jodie
im impressed
you are doing great...5% bf good luck



Posted by: JLB001

I've been 8.5% before Cat...5% is just a lil more. That one pic of me and Craig I was right at 9. I hold everything in my friggen legs!

This am cardio was 30 mins treadmill, 15 mins walk on an incline, then 10 mins intervals with sprints and walk. then 5 mins walking on a flat.
Tonight's Back workout:
4x15 Hyper Ext
0, 10, 25, 25
RG Bent over rows
4x15@45, 65, 95, 95
DB Pullovers
4x15@25, 30, 30, 30
Assisted Pullups
4x15 with 140
20 mins stair stepper set on a setting called pikes peak @ a 4.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

yea but that still 3.5%
that can be a lot

But i believe you can do it!

I hope you take like 500000 pics at your contests



Posted by: JLB001

ok...I am gonna post the pics from in Jan. when I started venturing on this board. This would be the before....I seriously think I put on some more weight after those where taken since I had that knee surgery a few weeks after this one was taken.



Posted by: JLB001

The next one is from 3/04; 3/14; 3/21 the go in that order from top to bottom. I was gonna post the pic, but I cna't post it twice.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=591802



Posted by: JLB001

Quote:
2/27 3/10 3/24
weight: 143/ 137/ 134
Tri: 23 / 19/ 18
Bi: 6 / 4/ 3
Subscap: 14 / 10/ 9
Supra: 17 / 13/ 8.5
Pec: 10 / 7.5/ 7
Abs: 14 / 9/ 7
Kidney: 31 / 23/ 21.5
Quad: 42 / 35/ 31.5
Calf: 25 / 22/ 21
BF %: 23.9 / 17.4/ 15.46
fat lbs: 33.78 / 23.8/ 20
LBM: 109.22 / 113/ 113
Dropped another 2% the past two weeks. Jon upped my pm cardio by 10 mins, so now 30 mins in the pm on the stair master hell. There won't be any changes in the diet until I hit a stand still, then it will be changed a lil. Right now, since its working, there is no reason to jack with it. We are having steak tonight for dinner on the bbq! I think I have ate myself sick with brownie mix. I baked them, now they smell yucky to me, have to take them down to the office soon. And have to bake Craig cookies for when he comes home.



Posted by: jstar

Awesome progress Jodi! Do you do your stats after your cheat or before (just curious). Keep it up hon you are right on track!



Posted by: JLB001

They are done before eatting or anything. Usually first thing in the am when we go see Jon. I was there at 8am today, then left, went to the gym, did 30 mins cardio, food store....brownies..now my second meal of the day. ick!



Posted by: atherjen

JODIEBOLONGIE!!!!!!!!!
you are making the most wicked and incredible progress Ive seen! your really dropping fast! and in the right places too! Way to go woman!!! Keep up all the hard work!
Hope you enjoyed your brownies! well deserved!!!



Posted by: JLB001

Jenjen...I had to much of the mix after I mixed it all up. Now I don't want them since they are baked.

It all seems to be coming off my upper body Jen! I want legs! I want them now! I feel like I have tree trunks on a lean upper bod. LOL Just the reverse of California legs! I'll keep plugging along for ya Jenjen.

I don't want any more carbs today but I have to stick to the reg. meals. It's weird how sugar kills the urge to eat and makes ya sleepy!

Oh....I admitted the Chex Mix stuff to Jon. He wasn't mad, said a handful isn't enough to do much damage, just not to go overboard with it since there isn't much fat in a serving of it.



Posted by: aggies1ut

That's awesome how your body responds so quickly to diet and some cardio. I wish mine did.



Posted by: Jodi

Excellent progress Jodie.

I can't handle cardio once a day though, never mind twice



Posted by: JLB001

Aggies..I've done the dieting cardio thing a few times, its just learning what your body reacts best too. With me, we know that I have got to do the cardio and a buttload of it, but if we keep my proteins high, I don't loose lbm. Also that my body does not like carb cycling, fats or sugars, it just clings to it. We have to keep an eye on my hair, skin, etc and supplement as needed with the essential fats or throw red meat in there with enough of those to balance it out. Plus the more times you diet for a show, your body learns to responde to the diet in different ways and it becomes easier for it to loose. It's just learning what your body will responde too.



Posted by: DrChiro

ok baby....since you had brownies...i had reeses cups......no need to make cookies later (or at least dont make too many)

i am officially down 29 pounds since i started dieting (from 217 to 188 this morning....i think i am doing pretty damn good!)



Posted by: JLB001

Jodi....I see it like this...some people do an hour at onetime, we just break mine up into 2 30 mins sessions. I know what ya mean about not much once a day. I hate cardio. I can think of so many other things to be doing than cardio.



Posted by: DrChiro

i saw something about steak tonight!....woohoo!

grill it up!



Posted by: JLB001

Craig...I already bought the chips! YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM!

Steak is in the frig too!



Posted by: atherjen

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
Jenjen...I had to much of the mix after I mixed it all up. Now I don't want them since they are baked.

It all seems to be coming off my upper body Jen! I want legs! I want them now! I feel like I have tree trunks on a lean upper bod. LOL Just the reverse of California legs! I'll keep plugging along for ya Jenjen.

I don't want any more carbs today but I have to stick to the reg. meals. It's weird how sugar kills the urge to eat and makes ya sleepy!

Oh....I admitted the Chex Mix stuff to Jon. He wasn't mad, said a handful isn't enough to do much damage, just not to go overboard with it since there isn't much fat in a serving of it.

you know that makes sense. I made choc chip cookies once and ate too much raw dough and didnt even want to look at the cooked ones!
Hold in there hunniebuns.. those legs will come! but its us being female that makes em slow! its always the last for me!

Jon sounds like a great guy to have as a couch too! very lucky!

I AM DREAMING of Texas today! its been snowing all morning and afternoon!



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by atherjen
you know that makes sense. I made choc chip cookies once and ate too much raw dough and didnt even want to look at the cooked ones!
Hold in there hunniebuns.. those legs will come! but its us being female that makes em slow! its always the last for me!
I could eat them raw and cooked.

Unfortunately I have male pattern fat distribution. Lean legs and lower body but with a nice thick waistline The rest of my body leans out fast and my abs are always the last to come in.



Posted by: greekblondechic

woohoo hottie! i dont know what ur jealous about, ur legs r leaner than mine

im just taller so its all an illusion



Posted by: JLB001

OMG...Craig had 8 Reese peanut butter cups! I thought he meant the ones from Sunday. Nooooo, these were new ones! Now he is using the excuse that we are doing legs tonight! AUGH!!!!



Posted by: greekblondechic

u guys r too cute



Posted by: JLB001

on the cookie dough. I like them in the dough and baked. or even nuking them for a few secs in the micro. mmmmm

Hmm...Jodi...maybe we should combine our parts to make a new and improved Jodi model. We could piece together what we need.

Greeky...YOU have LONG legs! and that is no illusion. I'm not buying that one.

JenJen....its cloudy here today, but its warm. I know the legs will come in, just being impateint.



Posted by: JLB001

Greekie...cute he will not be when he is moaning about holding extra water in the next few days from those Reese Cups.



Posted by: greekblondechic

i'm hoping my weight gain is water from my peanut butter M&M's but im still confused cuz i dotn look as heavy as i am..


woohoo for the slimming effects of a TAN!



Posted by: JLB001

yes the tan does wonders!



Posted by: Jill

All this brownie, reese, and cookie talk Great job on the results!



Posted by: Stacey

Hey Jodie girl!! I just saw your pictures and you look GREAT!!! WOW! Your progress is incredible! You can tell you are working so hard!!!!!! TOOOO AWESOME!! You deserved those brownies.

Although I would have had them baked too..then bitched later b/c I had a tummy ache...hehe

Awesome Job woman!

My body is the same way-- I have a lean upper body, abs look good, face, biceps...everything gets real lean, and the legs never change. ALthough what is bad is I KNOW what I need to do-- them damn bleachers...hehe.. I will soon. I am wondering if just doing them on saturdays & Sundays would help me? then Cardio/ stairmill during the week.

I need to do something since short season is here..and I hate wearing them.

Anyway.. AWESOME JOB!! Your A Knockout..and a Big inspiration to Me!



Posted by: jstar

Jodie my lower body comes in last too. By the time my trims down my arms feel like noodles!



Posted by: JLB001

Noodles??? MMMMM, pasta! hehe

Jstar...do you lift heavy all the way up to the show? I find that helps in keeping size. The only thing I stop training 14 days out are my legs. I'll do upper body workouts til that Wednesday before the show. Cutting legs out that far gets alot of the water out of them and your not forcing more blood into them and keeping them pumped.



Posted by: JLB001

Stacey..that is so sweet of you to say. Bleechers will changed the shape of the leg, but you shouldn't do them til you get your knee checked out! OK? You don't want to make it any worse.



Posted by: Jill

Do you think you can achive lean legs just by doing stairs, and omitting the weights? Im thinking about trying that this summer.



Posted by: JLB001

I think weights would be needed to keep the size. Think of runners. The ones that do marathons, they don't have legs. Ya know...I really don't know. I'm sure it would keep some of the muscle, just not sure how much of it.



Posted by: Stacey

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
Stacey..that is so sweet of you to say. Bleechers will changed the shape of the leg, but you shouldn't do them til you get your knee checked out! OK? You don't want to make it any worse.
You deserve it

awww good Idea.. I will have it checked out.. I really want to do bleachers..and when I get good..we can do them together!



Posted by: JLB001

I suck at them! I'll die after maybe 1/2 a set.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Good afternoon ladies and gentelman



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

gentle*



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
I think weights would be needed to keep the size. Think of runners. The ones that do marathons, they don't have legs. Ya know...I really don't know. I'm sure it would keep some of the muscle, just not sure how much of it.
Low reps (4) heavy weight is the best way to shrink the size of your legs and develop definition.



Posted by: Stacey

JODIE: I will die toooo ---good we will suffer together

Jodi~ Thanks!!! I wasn't sure if it was high reps/low weight or the other way around.. thank you!



Posted by: JLB001

I'm believe it is the other way around. Going high weights less reps actually tears the fibers, which would make them grow. But then that is what everyone I train with tells me. To lean them out, you would do more reps and less weights.



Posted by: Jodi

No, that is a myth.

Strength and definition is in the 2-4 rep range. Mass - 6-10 rep range. Endurance 11-15 rep range and anything higher is going to cause muscle loss and quite possibly fat gain.



Posted by: JLB001

And this is stated as a myth where?



Posted by: Stacey

Now I'm sooooooooooo CONFUSED!!!!



Posted by: JLB001

I'm patiently waiting to find out where the myth is stated....

I worked with a pro bodybuilder who was my trainer, we always did high reps to lean my legs down. Both trainers I have had used high reps. incorporating sprints and plyos into the workouts as well....



Posted by: Jill

Me too, I want smaller leggies, my quads are huge!!!!!!



Posted by: Stacey

I hear ya sister.. I got some Tree Trunks!!!!!!



Posted by: Jill

I have BIGGER tree trunks!



Posted by: JLB001

This is from Jodi Miller over on Muscle Mayhem
Quote:
FitLonghorn
Jodi Miller - NPC Figure




Group: The Contenders
Posts: 556
Joined: 15 April 2003 Posted: Jan. 10 2004,12:02

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First off, best of luck to you in April! I think after seeing where you are from, it's time I quit complaining about the bitter cold in Texas (thirties, forties, and fifties...lol)!

I tried the no-training-of-quads tactic in 2002 for one of my shows. I didn't like the results. I did the stepmill for an hour everyday. (Talk about boredom...you can't busy your mind with anything while keeping up with the ever-revolving steps; have you ever tried reading a book on that thing when your nickname is klutz? It's not a pretty sight!) Yes, my legs did get smaller and my butt did change shape slightly, but I didn't like the loss of hardness to the muscle and the extra skin that appeared. My legs felt spongy, and that feeling disappeared once I got back into leg presses, leg extensions, lunges, light squats, and sprints.

Thus, I personally don't recommend this tactic. I do believe that sprints and plyometrics are key to taking the chunkiness out of quad muscles. Also, I tend to do hamstrings first and then quads when I do legs. I also use supersetting and even tri-setting for exercises and keep my reps between 12 and 30 and don't lift as heavy as I could. It's difficult to change your mindset, but just stay focused on your end goal...symmetry!

As for what a yam is, it's a version of a sweet potato. Well, there are arguments about this as to whether the two are the same or different. I had one trainer who insisted they are different. Then there's my mom (who is always right...in her mind, at least) who says they are the same. I've gotten the same results whether I've bought organic yams from Whole Foods or sweet potatoes from Kroger. But everyone reacts differently.

Jodi Miller has a bod to die for. her sight is www.jodileigh.com



Posted by: Stacey

JILLYBEAN~ YEAH RIGHT



Posted by: Jill

Holly crap shes been in a lot of comps!



Posted by: Jill

If its nice Im going to run stairs tomorrow! There is this gorgeous place near my house-I used to always run em last summer. There is a hill there too, real steep, harder than the stairs!!!



Posted by: JLB001

And she was #5 in Figure Nationals last year. She knows her stuff! She also uses Mike Davies as her advisor.



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by DrChiro

i am officially down 29 pounds since i started dieting (from 217 to 188 this morning....i think i am doing pretty damn good!)
Thats WICKED AWESOME Craig!!!!!!!!!! You and Jodie make a good team.



Posted by: JLB001

He is busy eatting a cookie



Posted by: Jill

(i want some...)



Posted by: atherjen

man o man that woman is in wicked condition! shes looks jealously awesome!!

HAHAHAH that pic of Craig is hilarious!
dont tell us u lost all that weight by eating cookies!



Posted by: greekblondechic

i hate my big quads..

i was thinking of not lifting for a while cuz the mass i added when i tried 4 reps... maybe ill just do excessively high reps..
cuz even at 15-20, i sometimes grow but generally maintain..



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

everyone needs to go read my entry in my whore journal about the bank robbery that just happened



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
And this is stated as a myth where?
Here is one article on the high rep myth

http://www.healthforlife.com/shadow/...ml/a6sets.html

And on strength training

Dispelling Misconceptions
Recent studies counter several widely held beliefs that may limit the physiologic and psychological benefits of weight training for women.

Myth 1: Strength training causes women to become larger and heavier. The truth is, strength training helps reduce body fat and increase lean weight (1). These changes may result in a slight increase in overall weight, since lean body mass weighs more than fat. However, strength training results in significant increases in strength, no change or a decrease in lower-body girths, and a very small increase in upper-extremity girth. Only women with a genetic predisposition for hypertrophy who participate in high-volume, high-intensity training will see substantial increases in limb circumference.

Myth 2: Women should use different training methods than men. Women are often encouraged to use weight machines and slow, controlled movements out of a fear that using free weights, manual resistance, explosiveness (high velocity, low force), or exercises that use body weight as resistance will cause injury.

In fact, no evidence suggests that women are more likely to be injured during strength training than men. Proper exercise instruction and technique are necessary to reduce the risk of injuries for both men and women. All strength training participants should follow a program that gradually increases the intensity and load.

Furthermore, sport-specific exercise should closely mimic the biomechanics and velocity of the sport for which an athlete is training (2). The best way to achieve this is to use closed-kinetic-chain exercise that involves multiple joints and muscle groups and the ranges of motion specific to the sport. For example, the push press--rather than triceps kickbacks--offers a superior arm extension training stimulus for improving the ability to throw the shot put in track and field.

Myth 3: Women should avoid high-intensity or high-load training. Women are typically encouraged to use limited resistance, such as light dumbbells, in their strength exercises. Often such light training loads are substantially below those necessary for physiologic adaptations and certainly less than those commonly used by men.

Most women are able to train at higher volumes and intensities than previously believed. In fact, women need to train at intensities high enough to cause adaptation in bone, muscle, cartilage, ligaments, and tendons. When exercise intensity provides insufficient stimulus, physiologic benefits may be minimal (3). To gain maximum benefit from strength training, women should occasionally perform their exercises at or near the repetition maximum for each exercise.

http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by Jodi
Here is one article on the high rep myth

http://www.healthforlife.com/shadow/...ml/a6sets.html

And on strength training

Dispelling Misconceptions
Recent studies counter several widely held beliefs that may limit the physiologic and psychological benefits of weight training for women.

Myth 1: Strength training causes women to become larger and heavier. The truth is, strength training helps reduce body fat and increase lean weight (1). These changes may result in a slight increase in overall weight, since lean body mass weighs more than fat. However, strength training results in significant increases in strength, no change or a decrease in lower-body girths, and a very small increase in upper-extremity girth. Only women with a genetic predisposition for hypertrophy who participate in high-volume, high-intensity training will see substantial increases in limb circumference.

Myth 2: Women should use different training methods than men. Women are often encouraged to use weight machines and slow, controlled movements out of a fear that using free weights, manual resistance, explosiveness (high velocity, low force), or exercises that use body weight as resistance will cause injury.

In fact, no evidence suggests that women are more likely to be injured during strength training than men. Proper exercise instruction and technique are necessary to reduce the risk of injuries for both men and women. All strength training participants should follow a program that gradually increases the intensity and load.

Furthermore, sport-specific exercise should closely mimic the biomechanics and velocity of the sport for which an athlete is training (2). The best way to achieve this is to use closed-kinetic-chain exercise that involves multiple joints and muscle groups and the ranges of motion specific to the sport. For example, the push press--rather than triceps kickbacks--offers a superior arm extension training stimulus for improving the ability to throw the shot put in track and field.

Myth 3: Women should avoid high-intensity or high-load training. Women are typically encouraged to use limited resistance, such as light dumbbells, in their strength exercises. Often such light training loads are substantially below those necessary for physiologic adaptations and certainly less than those commonly used by men.

Most women are able to train at higher volumes and intensities than previously believed. In fact, women need to train at intensities high enough to cause adaptation in bone, muscle, cartilage, ligaments, and tendons. When exercise intensity provides insufficient stimulus, physiologic benefits may be minimal (3). To gain maximum benefit from strength training, women should occasionally perform their exercises at or near the repetition maximum for each exercise.

http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html





Posted by: JLB001

Ok....I have read both of what you have posted. Nowhere does it state that higher reps should not be used to lean down. I'm not saying leaning down in the terms of spot reduction either, because you can not spot reduced. It only states that higher reps do not add to muscluar developement. It also does not state in there anything about doing high reps beyond 20 adding to fat gains.

I'm sorry...no where does it state what I have asked....



Posted by: JLB001

Quote:
Leg Training ...Ann-Marie's Way
by Ann-Marie Crooks (Top National Competitior)
Be sure to check out Ann-Maries super Web site, this is one you don't want to miss (there are some great pictures here!). links to other peoples page.
Not a day of my life goes by that I am not complemented on my leg development..unless I am wearing long pants. Even in cotton leggings, I am asked how I got my legs that way. The most flattering part is not that I am complimented for that particular body part, but that the comments come from both sexes, all age groups, and non-bodybuilders.

I wont lie and tell you that I built my legs strictly from weight training. My legs development, just as the rest of my physique has been mostly genetic. I participated extensively in athletics in my elementary, junior and high school years. Specifically, my athletic background that I feel has contributed to the solid foundation for my legs to develop to the degree of muscularity they exhibit today, was gymnastics and track and field.

I just began my 12th year of training, and I have to confess that I no longer squat regularly. In fact, I haven't done that in about 5 years. The basis of my leg training revolves around lunges, extensions, and hack squats. I also do NOT train quadriceps and hamstring in the same session. I train quads today and hamstrings 2 days later. You may also notice some exercises missing from my training session, (i.e. leg presses). In order to curtail stagnation in my training, I don't do the same exercises each time I train, and some exercises, such as leg presses, are performed on my hamstring day. I have found this allows me to totally exhaust my quads and give them 100 percent of my energy. I also don't train quadriceps with another bodypart. I do however train hamstrings with another bodypart.

I am going to limit this article to just my quadriceps training. Its very difficult for me to detail my leg training since my workouts are NEVER the same each time. But here was my last leg training session:
First I start with either walking lunges or leg extensions. I usually walk around the gym 3 or 4 times while lunging. I find the lunges thoroughly warm up the knees and give me a wicked burn to get me psyched up for the rest of the routine.

I immediately follow lunges with leg extension. I do my leg extension very strictly; I lock my legs out at the top for at least a 2 second hold, and I also point my toes up to the ceiling. The negative part of the movement is just as important, and I execute that slowly. I NEVER totally relax the quadriceps muscle at the bottom of the movement. I perform between 6 and 8 sets of leg extensions during the off season. Pre-contest, I add 2 more sets. My repetition range on extensions vary with each set. I try to do high reps (30 to 40) if my poundage is below 100. Over that, I decrease my reps.

If I am feeling especially strong, or during pre-contest training, I superset each time around the gym (walking lunges) with a set of leg extensions.

My next exercise is either the hack squat or the smith machine squat. I do 5 sets of this exercise. Again, my form is strict and slow. I don't bounce at the bottom of the movement, and I don't lock my knees out at the top. Instead of locking out my knees, I squeeze on my leg muscles. My rep range on these is usually 30 reps at 135 pounds( my first set). My other sets I increase in increments of 90 to 100 pounds and I perform between 10 and 15 reps.

My next exercise is are single leg presses on the vertical leg press machine. I do this for shape, not size. I utilize one leg at a time, for 4 sets on each leg. I try no to go too heavy because I don't want to injure my knee. Most of the time, I perform this movement with 155 pounds for 20 rep sets. I keep the movement slow and strict; again, I don't lock out my knees and I squeeze my leg muscles at the top of the movement.

My next to last exercise is sissy squat. Luckily, World Gym (where I train) has a machine for this exercise. I do this exercise for definition and shape. I perform 4 sets of 20 to 30 reps. I concentrate on squeezing my legs and glutes at the top of the movement, and I don't lock out my knees. I also squat down slow and deep.

My final exercise is the inner thigh machine. I perform this with 140 pounds for 30 rep sets. The key to this exercise is to squeeze together with your knees!

I finish off my leg training day with a 30 minute session on the stairmaster. And I do mean "finish". I think its important to note that I don't lift very heavy, which is quite the opposite of how I "look". I will not sacrifice form for the sake of lifting heavy weights to impress some one in the gym. Legs are difficult bodypart for most people to develop, but I think with patience, and strict training you will see results!

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Posted by: Jodi

Sure anyone can lose size alright at 20+ reps, no question, but it may not all be fat it will probably be mostly muscle. At least this was my own personal experience and I wish I had listened to TP to begin with

Last year, and many people will remember me doing so, I attempted at high rep/low weight routine for legs. I built my legs up and they were no longer proportionate to the rest of my body. I lost 2 inches around my legs and I was pleased until I had a bodyfat test done and realized that my quad skinfold increased by 6mm which is alot for me because I have lean legs. That is when I stopped and decided to go to strength training for my legs for a while. I was able to reduce the skin fold back to normal and keep my legs the same new smaller size and at this point I was even bulking.

Of course now I'm trying to grow them again

Those links are very good reference in understanding some of the myths but I do know we are all different. When I've experienced something I try to share my success and my failures in hopes that it will help others learn from them.



Posted by: JLB001

Sometimes it doesn't come across as trying to share your experieces. Sometimes it seems that your advice is the only one that should be followed.

Not everyone has the same body chemistry and peoples body's responde differently to different types of training. For you the higher reps with less weight may have not worked. But with someone who has heavier legs such as myself, it does work. Doing heavy weight for low reps increases my mass in my legs, not nec. the body fat and some people do not want more mass in their legs. You could have been retaining water and not fat when you tried it. Its really hard to say. I just find it hard to accept as a "myth" when in may have been your own opinion and experience.



Posted by: JLB001

We trained legs tonight.

laying leg curls
4x15@30, 50, 50,40
leg ext.
4x15@60, 80, 100, 90 Negatives-3x70
Leg presses wide stance
4x15@180, 270, 270, 270
S.L.D.L supersetted with 4x30 in and outs
4x15@65, 85, 105, 105
Hip Add. 2x15@60, 80
Hip Ab. 2x15@70
calf raises
3x20@180



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
I'm believe it is the other way around. Going high weights less reps actually tears the fibers, which would make them grow. But then that is what everyone I train with tells me.
This is the myth I was dispelling as you originally asked.

Quote:
To lean them out, you would do more reps and less weights.
And this sounds like a personal experience as well.

It is proven over and over again that strength training will lean you out and increase lean weight and not mass. That is not a myth AND it is my own personal experience as well.

If I felt my way was the only way, as you seem to portray me as, then I wouldn't have so many different answers to different questions on this or any other board I'm at.

I do not wish to argue but I will say that I am ALWAYS saying that we are differnet and what works for 1 will not work for everyone.



Posted by: JLB001

We are very different in ALOT of ways. I just don't believe everyone is so cookie cutter in the way they should train and diet.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

reow! cat fight! Jodie @ Jodie!

I got front row seats



Posted by: JLB001

Nah....no cat fight.



Posted by: Jill

Im so confused now as to what to do ladies....



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
Im so confused now as to what to do ladies....
dont worry about them
they are just going head to head ...

Jill just keep doing what you've been doing



Posted by: greekblondechic

I think by strength training that article was refering to WEIGHT training.. NOT a high weight low rep scheme



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by myCATpowerlifts
reow! cat fight! Jodie @ Jodie!

I got front row seats
No, not a cat fight - just a disagreement.

Quote:
I think by strength training that article was refering to WEIGHT training.. NOT a high weight low rep scheme
The first article is referring to high reps, second article refers to strength training. High weight low rep scheme is strength training and ALL training that involves lifting a weight is Weight training



Posted by: JLB001

I was simple stating that to build MASS in any body part you would do low rep higher weight. To gain conditioning you would do less weight, higher reps. This is not a myth.



Posted by: atherjen

JODIEBOLONGIE!!!!!!!!! what are you doing up so early woman??
its like what 5am your time?



Posted by: JLB001

I had to be to work at 7am, we had breakfast at the gate for our residents. They got Chik-fil-a!
Jenjen...I'm usually up at 6am to go do cardio. We never get to sleep in late.



Posted by: Fitgirl70

Jodie (Bolongie) (is that supposed to be bologna??)


How are you this morning? Sorry you didn't get to sleep in this morning -- I did!! YEAH!!! I didn't do cardio this morning, I slept in and rested...felt so good too.

Did you eat Chik-Fil-A????????????



Posted by: JLB001

I did not eat Chik-Fil-A. Yesterday was my schedule cheat food day. No more until 2 more weeks.

We did pass out 50 of those biscuits with newspaper and juice. I had my eggies and oatmeal.



Posted by: Fitgirl70

That's my girl!!!



Posted by: atherjen

whats Chik-Fil-A ?
chicken?

hehe yah yah Bologna. I like to spell it with IE though!

I never sleep in either Jodie... just cant.. usually never past 7.



Posted by: Stacey

Hey Jodie~ That's great that you didn't have any Chick fil a!! You Rock



Posted by: JLB001

Ahhhh...Chik-Fil-A...they are awesome sandwichs that are kinda like a pressure cooked piece of chicken from KFC but better. And they have these awesome waffle fries! I have a friend at the gym that refers to them as sodium loaded chicken sandwichs. LOL Here's a link to their sight. http://www.chick-fil-a.com/



Posted by: JLB001

Morning Stacey!



Posted by: atherjen

sodium is right!!!!!!!

Chick-fil-AŽ Chicken Biscuit
%DV

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Serving Size - oz 4.8

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Serving Size - g 137g

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Calories 400

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Calories from fat 160

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Total Fat 18g 28%

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Saturated fat 4.5g 22%

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Trans fat 3g

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Cholesterol 30mg 10%

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Sodium 1,200mg 50%

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Carbohydrates 43g 14%

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Dietary Fiber 2g 7%

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Sugars 5g

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Protein 16g



Posted by: DrChiro

ok...i feel i need to put my 2 cents in here...kinda long but i couldnt do it any other way.

fast twitch vs slow twitch(endurance fibers) training.

there is a sequence to the order in which muscle fibers are recruited...and an order to which they fatigue...fast twitch are only recruited when heavy enough loads are incorporated.....which is why you should incorporate heavy lifting into your training somehow.

They also fatigue the fastest which will then put the burden of the lifting on the slow twitch (endurance) fibers.

While it is true that to incrase an endurance fiber's capacity to prolong contractions you must train it in the 75-100 rep range....to force those fibers to hypertrophy these type of reps are not needed...you simply have to fatigue the type II fibers and continue lifting as heavy as possible with the Type I fibers for 6-8 reps (negatives are great too!)

High rep/low weight training can be very good for providing definition although the reasons why it works are disputed (as we see here with the jodi vs jodie controversy).

Definition first and foremost is related to bodyfat so you must decrease the fat to see what you got, this is a given. But beyond that, how do you create those great seperations that seem to elude you no matter how much you diet and do cardio? Well there are a few ways....one major way is to play in the chemistry set like most pros and many competitors do...we dont want to go there.

The other way seems to be to do high rep/low weight training (15-30 reps sometimes)....some people think it has to do with the amount of blood that you can pump into the muscle bellies with high rep training....some people say (and some good research is out there) that there is such thing as spot reduction to some degree but is only noticeable AFTER a significant amount of bodyfat has been shed through diet and cardio...this "little bit" of spot reduction that may occur, sould be what seperates the top competitors from everyone else.

Whatever the reason may be, it works if applied correctly. I have been a trainer since 1995 and have seen it work with my clients and friends, myself, jodie, and the pros.......at this point, physiologically speaking there is no good answer to why it works and as jodi's article pointed out...there are actually some good arguments against it working.....so be it....my experience tells me otherwise.

Of course some things to keep in mind that jodi and jodie always bring up....what works for one may not work for another...there is no "one best way"...the best way is what works for "you"...so experiment and find out for yourself.

another thing to remember is that it is usually a good idea to cycle your training.....do a phase of lifting for strength....a phase for mass.....a phase for endurance or definition or whatever you want to call it.....this way you are sure to hit all the fibers at some point....keep yourself from injury since you arent lifting heavy ALL the time...andyour body wont adapt so hopefully you will make improvements on a consistent basis.

ok....i'm done.... wheew!!!
(at least for now)



Posted by: DrChiro

i didnt have chik filet either although i was offered one...by Jodie! (i think she was testing me)

after my bad eating yesterday i have no buisness eating a biscuit of any kind!



Posted by: atherjen

cookie monster!


well explained Craig!



Posted by: DrChiro

why thank ya Ma'am!

i look like cookie monster in that pic.



Posted by: JLB001

Thank you Sweetie!



Posted by: jstar

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
Noodles??? MMMMM, pasta! hehe

Jstar...do you lift heavy all the way up to the show? I find that helps in keeping size. The only thing I stop training 14 days out are my legs. I'll do upper body workouts til that Wednesday before the show. Cutting legs out that far gets alot of the water out of them and your not forcing more blood into them and keeping them pumped.
For about 6 weeks leading up to the show I did 12-15 reps. I didn't lose any size but I prefer training with a 6-10 rep range. The final week I did a depletion where I worked the whole body (circuit style) and did cardio 30-45 min with no carbs Mon-Wed. I carbed-up Thu-Sat (no training those days).

For my next show I am going to keeps my reps @ 6-10 til one week out. The depletion schedule worked well so I am going to use it again.

I just read your debate with Jodi on high reps/lighter weight vs low reps/heavy weight for legs. I definitely think it's an individual thing. My legs are the size I want them to be and now I just focus on keeping them tight - they respond the quickest of all gain size easy. I prefer to train them w/high reps (12-15 to failure). If I used the 3-6 range for most leg exercises it would really bother my knees. I definitely think it depends on the individual though

I haven't trained legs in 2 weeks and they feel like they are tightening up from cardio, esp the treadmill @ a high incline..does that seem weird I mean my legs physically feel like they have done a weight w/o for DAYS now.



Posted by: JLB001

I'm glad the carb deplete works for you! I look like pooh when I do it and I get spacey when I only have 1/4 c oats and half of a small spud for three days. Sodium load worked better for me, basically kept the diet the same as when cutting but adding a lil more salt to each meal, then cutting it completely out on Wed. night and drinking buttloads of water til that Friday.

when you did the circuit type stuff the last week, did you do it daily or every other day? I'm curious how it worked.

You do have nice legs! Just the right size. (dang tall girls! They get the long lean leggies!) That treadmill can be mean on that incline!



Posted by: JLB001

I have a question....

If you have a friend that they had to take the baby before it was born, is it appropriate to send her a sympathy card? The baby wasn't developing properly and they had to perform an emergency surgery. I feel so bad for her, she is basically a good person just has had alot of issues in life. Now this happens. she has lived with Craig and I for a short period last year, when things were tough for her.



Posted by: atherjen

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
I have a question....

If you have a friend that they had to take the baby before it was born, is it appropriate to send her a sympathy card? The baby wasn't developing properly and they had to perform an emergency surgery. I feel so bad for her, she is basically a good person just has had alot of issues in life. Now this happens. she has lived with Craig and I for a short period last year, when things were tough for her.

Defintly send her a card Jodie.taht would be kind and thoughtful. shows you care. perhaps a flower or something to. ?
thats a sad situation!



Posted by: JLB001

We'll get her a card this evening. I still have her Mom's addie, she is back there for now so we'll send it there. I know she is just devastated, I believe very much that God just wasn't ready for her to have a child yet.



Posted by: Stacey

I would definaltey send her a Card Jodie...like Jen said...it shows you care & that you & Craig are thinking of her.

Wow, that is so sad!!!



Posted by: JLB001

I'm thinking of sending her the brownie mix we have here that she likes too.



Posted by: Stacey

GOOOOD IDEA!!!!



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
We'll get her a card this evening. I still have her Mom's addie, she is back there for now so we'll send it there. I know she is just devastated, I believe very much that God just wasn't ready for her to have a child yet.
...doesnt sound like she was ready to have a child yet either



Posted by: Jill

A card is a nice thought, simpy stated. (keep the brownies for your next cheat!)

Back to the leg thing-Im with Jstar that 4-6 reps would really bother my knees, 6 even hurts them. I dont want any more size at all, actually if I lost size I would be happy. What rep range do you recommend Jodie? Leggies tomorrow-Ive been doing heavy for a while, Its time for a change!



Posted by: Fitgirl70

Jodie, I think a card is nice. Maybe in a week or so, you can go see her. Does she live far?

I think you should make those brownies and take them to her!!

Jill, if you wanna lose size, go lighter weight and more reps. Right Jodie? Also, you may want to start doing some walking lunges ON the treadmill. I only say that from personal experience. I've lost approximately 2 to 3 inches on my legs, but also toned and gained some definition by doing those.

I start out w/ an incline of 6.0 and do 12 lunges, then walk for a minute, go to 9.0 incline and do 12 lunges, then walk for a minute, go to 12.0 incline and do 12 lunges, then walk for a minute, go to 15.0 incline and do 12 lunges, then walk for a minute.

By the time you get to the last set, your legs are on fire, but it definitely works



Posted by: Jill

Thanks fitgirl!!! You are real sweet, Ill give that a try. What speed are you at on the tm? Ive recently started walking on an incline, instead of other cardio machines and Im loving it!!



Posted by: Fitgirl70

OOOOHHHHH, sorry, do those only on 1.5 speed, you can go to 1.6 if you want, but be careful that you don't lose your form.



Posted by: Jill

Any faster Id probably fall, face first!



Posted by: JLB001

Jill...I do higher reps for myself. Just try it each way and see what works for you. I've done those incline lunges on the treadmill and they are killer! Can't really set the pace to high or you wouldn't be able to keep a good form with the lunge.

Tam...I would go see her, but she is in Ashboro, NC. Kinda far to go visit, or I would.
Keep the brownies??? Jillie...I made myself sick with the last bag before I baked them. I had so much of it, that the brownies were skinny ones and kinda hard after they were done. I ended up skipping my last carb meal with lunch because I couldn't stomach the thought of something sweet.

Cat..your kinda right when you say she isn't responable enough to have a child. At 24 she has a hard time keeping a job, etc. But with the things she has gone through, losing an unborn child is something I wouldn't wish upon anyone. Misscarriages are extremely difficult to deal with. You tend to blame yourself for what happens even if it is something you could not have prevented.



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
Jill...I do higher reps for myself. Just try it each way and see what works for you. I've done those incline lunges on the treadmill and they are killer! Can't really set the pace to high or you wouldn't be able to keep a good form with the lunge.

Tam...I would go see her, but she is in Ashboro, NC. Kinda far to go visit, or I would.
Keep the brownies??? Jillie...I made myself sick with the last bag before I baked them. I had so much of it, that the brownies were skinny ones and kinda hard after they were done. I ended up skipping my last carb meal with lunch because I couldn't stomach the thought of something sweet.

Cat..your kinda right when you say she isn't responable enough to have a child. At 24 she has a hard time keeping a job, etc. But with the things she has gone through, losing an unborn child is something I wouldn't wish upon anyone. Misscarriages are extremely difficult to deal with. You tend to blame yourself for what happens even if it is something you could not have prevented.

My dad has 4 kids of his own....and 3 more that are step kids
he's 39 i think...

and he's still not ready for kids...never was, never will be
err i dont wanna get into it tho
he's sucky as a person and dad i guess but he loves us
and i love him still



Posted by: JLB001

Tonight's workout was Arms.

HS Preacher curls
4x15@25, 50, 50(12), 50(5)dropped to 25x10 with 2 single arm negs at the end
Zbar curls
4x15@50, 50, 60(12), 60 (15)
Standing double bi curls(new for me)
4x15@20, 30, 40(7), 30(8) with 2 negs at the end
overhead ext supersetted with single arm pushdowns
3x15@60 3x15@40
Tri Press machine
3x15@60

25 mins on stairmaster set on rolling hills at a 5, this will be increased to 30 mins for evning cardio tomorrow.



Posted by: JLB001

We always gotta love our parents. They take care of us when we are babies, when they are old, we may have to take care of them.

Did you realize MyCat that your dad is only a few years older than me?



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
We always gotta love our parents. They take care of us when we are babies, when they are old, we may have to take care of them.

Did you realize MyCat that your dad is only a few years older than me?
err

actually he didnt really take care of me as a baby

he was there...actually i dont really know...i think he worked and my mom worked too
but i think when she was off she took care of me...
but i know he wasnt there for my lil bro who is 2 years younger...

He left and moved when i was 2

yea i realize that your almost that old
good age...i guess



Posted by: JLB001

I'm off to bed. I slept like crap lastnight worrying I wasn't gonna get up in time for this morning. Have a good night!



Posted by: Jill

What are your thoughts on drop sets? Ive been incorperating a tonne of them into my workouts and loving it! BTW thanks for the leg advice-Im gonna go to high reps starting tomorrow. 15-20 range sound good?



Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

nighty night

i gtg too



Posted by: JLB001

Myself I normally go to 15 on higher reps. I would think that doing 20 don't use as many sets. maybe 3 of what your doing. Try it and see how it goes.

We've been adding some drop sets into our workouts, I've been getting tired toward the end of them, so instead of form suffering, we drop it down about 40% and finish up with that.



Posted by: JLB001

cardio this am was a no go. I wanted to sleep. Craig was being cute and cuddley so I stayed in bed til 7am. Plus the kitty cat didn't want to move.



Posted by: JLB001

Work is sooooooooooooooooo slow and boring! I wanna go home and crawl back in bed. Plus Chinese food sounds yummy for lunch.



Posted by: Fitgirl70

Same here J, I am doing nothing -- literally nothing!! I would love to go home early. Might be able to, just depends on what happens after lunch time. I know I have a couple of errands to run for the boss, but that's it.



Posted by: atherjen

excuses excuses!
JK woman. youve been working hard. one day isnt bad!
I had a super super wopper long day yestarday at work! glad I have the weekend off! hopefully your day goes by real fast! but nooooooooooooo chinese for you missy!



Posted by: JLB001

Steamed chicken and veggies. I asked Jon, he said as long as its steamed and has no sauces. I'll probably wait and go with Craig this weekend.

I was here 9 1/2 hours yesterday and still have to work this weekend. Pitched a fit about having to work next Sunday for that radio remote (I worked three weekends in a row in March, that would have put me at 5 weekends in a row with the one for Easter)...so now...I have a 3 day weekend! Half day Thursday next week, then off Fri. Sat. and Sun. I work Sat the weekend of Easter, then off three more days and no weekends the rest of the month.



Posted by: atherjen

gosh If I ever find a chinese place that serves steamed cluck cluck and veggies thats be great! all the fried and MSG makes me soo ill!

ohhh well all these long hours wil pay off then for April! hang in there and drink more water!



Posted by: JLB001

June! LOL We have 11 weeks. Reminds me I need to call Bonnie about a green suit.

You have to ask the Chinese food place to cook it that way. They'll look at ya funny but will do it for ya.

Chickie! I'm on my 3rd liter of water already this am. I've been up since 7. It's 11:30. I'm about to float and tinkle myself to death.



Posted by: JLB001

I like this thread....http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...hreadid=22055. Kinda explains what I was saying about low reps adding to the mass.



Posted by: atherjen

I keep forgeting your soo many hours behind me! its 3pm already here!

hahaha most of them chinese d00ds wouldnt know what I was saying! there was ONE chinese place I loved. the buffet. lotsa raw veggies and salads and shrimpo(cold plain) and grilled chicken(I hope it wasnt kitty kats. lol) ..

11 weeks! its coming so soon! your gonna rock the stage! I sooo wish I could be there tho.. grrrr...

I like that thread too!



Posted by: Stacey

I WISH It was slow here at work!!! I'm Ready for the weekend. We have been SOOO SWAMPED everyday..and I have been working 10 to 10.5 hour days--ugggggggg

BUT ITS FRIDAY GIRLS!

Jodie I'm glad you have the weekend OFF! YEAH!



Posted by: JLB001

Abs from this am.



Posted by: Stacey

HOLY SMOKES LOOK AT YOUR ABS!! THEY ARE AWEOME!!! OMG! WOW!! GIRL YOU ARE SMOKIN'!!!!



Posted by: JLB001

They actually look better in person than that pic. But thank you. I'll see if Craig will take full pics this weekend while working on posing stuff.



Posted by: Stacey

Thats awesome Jodie!! You should be very proud of yourself!!!!!



Posted by: JLB001

I'm trying to be!




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