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Posted by: sara

Ricola Mints! what you guys think of the sugar free Ricola Mints?

www.ricolausa.com

2 pieces = 0 cals, 0 fat, 1 carb, 1 fiber, 0 sugar, 0 protein

Posted by: Vieope

1 carb, it is impossible that it is 0 cal.

Posted by: sara

well the 1 carb comes from fiber

did you check out the site?

Posted by: Premo55

I'm sure there's sugar alcohols in there. There's no way a mint can be 0 cals.

Peace.

Posted by: sara

yes it does

ingredients: Gum arabic, sorbitol syrup, natural color(carmel), extract of natural her flavors (from Ricola's herb mix), natural flavors (menthol, pepperment oil), aspartame, acesulflame K
Contains Phenylanine

Posted by: Vieope

Sara , I don´t believe in this 0 cal thing for this mint. Anyway, just 4 cal isn´t that bad.

Posted by: Vieope

Quote:

Originally posted by sara
well the 1 carb comes from fiber

What do you mean ?

Posted by: sara

the nutrition facts: 1 carb, 1 fiber, 0 sugar

Posted by: Vieope

Yes, if it has 1 carbohydrate, it has 4 calories.
Like I said, it is only 4.

Posted by: supertech

fiber is a carb, but with no calories,

Posted by: Vieope

Now I am confused.

Posted by: Vieope

Fibers are non digestible complex carbs. So, they are not listed in the carbs that we count calories.

Posted by: Vieope

That is why I believe this mint has 4 calories.

Posted by: greekblondechic

sugar alcohols = tummyaches
aspartame = brainaches

Posted by: Jenny

Quote:

Originally posted by Vieope
Fibers are non digestible complex carbs. So, they are not listed in the carbs that we count calories.

Since you can't digest it, it can't give you any calories

Posted by: donescobar2000

So are you guys subtracting your total fiber from your total daily carbohydrates?

Posted by: Vieope

Quote:

Originally posted by donescobar2000
So are you guys subtracting your total fiber from your total daily carbohydrates?

NO, of course not.

Posted by: Jodi

Impossible - this macro count is wrong. You can't have sorbitol without sugar alcohols and sugar alcohols are considered a carb.

Posted by: Vieope

That is what I am saying all night, nobody agrees with me.Everybody here substract their fiber from their carb count, that is insane.
My reality is falling apart, I am so confused. Is this really IM ?

Posted by: Yanger

I think the subtracting the fiber from the carb count has become the "in thing" with the introduction of the "impact carb" lable that has been wide spread with atkins products. Everywhere you look on those things you see impact carbs which equals net-fiber if you read the macro on the back.

I'm not smart enough to know if that is real in a physiological sense but I know it's how it's getting marketed now. Look around you see 6 gram impact carb breads with the little A for Atkins everywhere. Also all the Atkins friendly meals that are being touted at restuarants all talk about impact carbs.

Hope Jodi or anyone else can make me for one smarter on this.

TIA,

Posted by: I Are Baboon

Four calories? Who cares either way about four calories?

Posted by: sara

I subtract fiber from my carbs intake

Posted by: Vieope

Quote:

Originally posted by Yanger
I think the subtracting the fiber from the carb count has become the "in thing" with the introduction of the "impact carb" lable that has been wide spread with atkins products. Everywhere you look on those things you see impact carbs which equals net-fiber if you read the macro on the back.

I'm not smart enough to know if that is real in a physiological sense but I know it's how it's getting marketed now. Look around you see 6 gram impact carb breads with the little A for Atkins everywhere. Also all the Atkins friendly meals that are being touted at restuarants all talk about impact carbs.

Hope Jodi or anyone else can make me for one smarter on this.

TIA,

Impact carbohydrates are the ones that is left when you substract fiber and sugar alcohols. The fibers we don´t count calories the sugar alcohools we do but they are not listed in the carb impact because they don´t affect insulin.( I am not sure about that, I think they do . )

Posted by: Vieope

Quote:

Originally posted by sara
I subtract fiber from my carbs intake

Stop doing that

Posted by: Vieope

Sara, I guess we are having a problem of miscommunication.
Solve this simple problem to clarify to me what you are thinking:

Food A -- Protein(0) Carbs(10) Fats(0) Fiber(4)

How many calories do you think it has ?
The answer for me is : 40 cals.

Posted by: sara

yes.. I know that, but I don't count that as part of my daily carb intake..

Posted by: Akateros

I think "impact carbs" are a marketer's giant wet dream. I am going to be the one laughing my ass off when all these people who jumped off the "low fat" bandwagon and are now eating "0 net impact carbs" are whining about how they're still fat, and the health headlines say "Low Carb Not the Miracle Cure After All!"

On the other hand, eating more fibre and less sugar alcohol is a good idea, whatever you end up calculating for your bottom line.

Posted by: Vieope

Quote:

Originally posted by sara
yes.. I know that, but I don't count that as part of my daily carb intake..

You agree and disagree with me at the same time.
You confuse me with simple things. I don´t know what we are arguing about anymore.
Good thing that we don´t date.

Posted by: donescobar2000

I don't subtract fiber personally. I just go with that lables say. I don't think I go anal like that counting cals. Eat all cals, count all cals and grow!

Posted by: Vieope

I count everything, how do you know if you got too much ? Even 200 calories make a difference.

Posted by: Pepper

Since fiber is not digested, it does not add calories. I think someone said this earlier though.

If you are counting carbs on a cut, many subtract the fiber b/c the fiber is not adding any calories. I thought most here DID subtract fiber. Maybe I'm wrong.

Posted by: Premo55

I don't count fiber calories. My fiber intake is upwards of 50g a day, too.

Peace.

Posted by: Vieope

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
Since fiber is not digested, it does not add calories. I think someone said this earlier though.

If you are counting carbs on a cut, many subtract the fiber b/c the fiber is not adding any calories. I thought most here DID subtract fiber. Maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah I know but .. every food that has fibers, it is listed apart, like it is not "carbohydrate". Do the macro count for any food with fibers, the total carbohydrates matches exactly the number of calories together with protein and fats. Fibers are already list on the side. If you substract again, you are counting it wrong.

Posted by: Premo55

^ You like trying to figure out what's 'right' and 'wrong' and forcing it down everyone's throat, don't you? It makes no consequence if people count fiber or not, it is not absorbed. Actually, if people count fiber in their carb intake and eat a lot of veggies and fibrous foods, they would be replacing a LOT of quality starches that are required to build muscle in order to fit a caloric guideline for cutting/bulking.

So. My statement is don't count your fiber calories or the fibrous carbs in your daily carb intake, only starches and sugars.

Peace.

Posted by: Vieope

Quote:

Originally posted by Premo55
^ You like trying to figure out what's 'right' and 'wrong' and forcing it down everyone's throat, don't you?

No. I like debating, afterall that is why we are here. Isn´t it?

Posted by: Pepper

He's right though that the fiber carbs are included in the total calories

Does anyone else wonder if companies divide their serving sizes so that the cals or carbs ROUNDS DOWN to ZERO...am I the only one that anal?

Posted by: Vieope

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
He's right though that the fiber carbs are included in the total calories

Finally

Quote:

Does anyone else wonder if companies divide their serving sizes so that the cals or carbs ROUNDS DOWN to ZERO...am I the only one that anal?

You are not alone

Posted by: Premo55

The companies do count that, because fiber is categorised as a carb, but counting fiber as a carb for bodybuilding purposes serves no end, because it is not absorbed or used for muscle repair.

Peace.

Posted by: dmartin1003

so if I have a .5 cup oatmeal 150 cal(3f/27c/4f/5p)and add .25 wheat bran 35 cal(.5f/13c/8fiber/2p)
for a total of (3.5f/40c/17fiber/7p) I should count all carbs towards my total amount. I count the the total cals but subtract the fiber now so it looks like this
195cal 3.5f/23c/7p for my daily tally

Posted by: Premo55

Subtract the fiber!

Peace.

Posted by: aztecwolf

actually it is real confusing because some nutrition labels subtract the fiber when counting total calories and some do not

Posted by: Vieope

Quote:

Originally posted by dmartin1003
so if I have a .5 cup oatmeal 150 cal(3f/27c/4f/5p)and add .25 wheat bran 35 cal(.5f/13c/8fiber/2p)
for a total of (3.5f/40c/17fiber/7p) I should count all carbs towards my total amount. I count the the total cals but subtract the fiber now so it looks like this
195cal 3.5f/23c/7p for my daily tally

Actually, the total is 185(3.5fat/40carb/12fiber/7pro);

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