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Posted by: CreaKid13

so yeah..100% of you guys told me not to take PHs at the age of 16, but i want you to be perfectly honest if you would answer my question, would i benefit at all from taking 1-ad, and how would i benefit.

Posted by: TheRoyalOne

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Originally posted by CreaKid13
so yeah..100% of you guys told me not to take PHs at the age of 16, but i want you to be perfectly honest if you would answer my question, would i benefit at all from taking 1-ad,
Not very much if any. Your body is already producing crazy amounts of test. There's no need to suppliment it

and how would i benefit.
Honestly I'm not sure that you would benifit. You would definately have to deal with the side effects like acne. And your natural test production will shut down. We won't even start to talk about the potential liver damage.

Your body is already producing huge amounts of the very thing you are trying to suppliment. At 16 the only thing you need to do is eat heavy and lift hard.

Posted by: CreaKid13

i see what your saying, but if i eat heavy i get fat and i dont want to be fat..any suggestions??

Posted by: topolo

yeah, bend over

Posted by: instant

well being fat is a common fear of weight lifters trying to bulk up. The thing is you need the calories to build muscle even if you take 1-ad your gonna need to mash food down your throat to get the full benefit of it. The best thing to do before you grab the ph would be to sit down and figure out how many calories your geting a day.

Ex. I am not big at all and have a low b/f I consume upwards of 4k cals a day. Remember your burning these things for energy.

So if your diet is not in order taking the ph will bost your test. but the advantage of this is you can consume more cals and have higher protein synthesis (read up - on how steriods work).

So what everyone is saying is that your body is basically full of the stuff that these older guys are supplementing - so you should be able to consume large amounts of calories and hit the weights hard for huge gains without boosting test. and that if you do this without supplementing the cals your just not gonna get the full advantage of them and your throwing away your money.

Eat, Sleep, Protein, train hard - Remember your at a great age to grow just give your body what it needs.

Posted by: willus72

you dont even need it homie. all these 30 y/o guys around here are taking it so that they can have testoterone levels like a 16 year old. they are trying to be like you, lol. your already there, screw the ph's take it as an advantage that your getting it all for free right now! i wish i could get the shit for free, lol!

Posted by: biggmike777

To truly answer your question, yes it will work. I gave it to my son about two months before football season and he gained 20lbs. I will not give it to him again, he got lucky no bad sides this time but at 16 it could have been bad. Just take your protein, creatine, and eat that is all you need.

Posted by: RCfootball87

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Originally posted by biggmike777
To truly answer your question, yes it will work. I gave it to my son about two months before football season and he gained 20lbs.

What product did he use.

Posted by: axle

creakid13, you do not need 1-ad your body is already making enough on its on at age 16.about you getting fat train harder and clean up your diet and do more cardio bust your ass in the gym and you will see results

Posted by: CreaKid13

ok thanks guys but i have another question..if i took sum kind of supplement like that, like you said bigmike your son gained 20 lbs, where did he gain it, like if i worked alot on my arms and chest would i gain alot of it there?

Posted by: instant

I gained most in my legs even though I worked my chest and arms the most. Remember the 20lbs probably isn't lbm with 1-ad I would assume that a couple of those pounds were water weight. Also just bc someone gains 20lbs on it doesn't mean your going to - I think it works by how big you are already and diet, age, etc. I would assume you'd have to take a pretty long cycle of 1-ad to get 20lbs. Probably 6-8 weeks (could be wrong on this). A buddy of mine has been on 1-ad for past 4 weeks and is up maybe 5 pounds.

Still don't think this is the solution for you. This shit also gets real expensive when you see how much your gonna need to get a cycle that long done and then pct after. 2 bottles of 1-ad and 2 bottles of 6-oxo $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Posted by: biggmike777

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Originally posted by RCfootball87
What product did he use.

Ergopharm 1-AD 400mg/day

Posted by: axle

your gonna look weird with a good set of arms and chest and toothpick legs.eat good take in enough protien and again bust your ass in the gym and at your age your gonna grow like a weed.stay away from 1-ad or all the rest of products like it

Posted by: brodus

CreaKrack, you're on the wrong forum. Look under the heading "DumbFuck" and you'll find a few more people like yourself who think "naturally" is spelled "naturaly" and have no shame about putting that in their signature.

Look CreaKok, fuckin juice yourself silly, nobody gives a shit at this point. You keep posting the same thing: "I'm a 16-yr. old pansy who thinks he's tough and wants to bench more than my gay brother--please make me feel better about the fact that I do steroids."

I have no sympathy for you, dude. Go post on "unitelligentbitches.com" and leave this board alone to real athletes. Or maybe, "shortcutstomigetry.fool" with a side of "ilostmynuts.org" would be better for you in June after you've blown your gonads and growth plates.

You need to buy a tutor before you buy drugs, ho. I grew 100% naturally and you can eat my natural dick, you little parasite. Go clean someone's locker and pretend your big somewhere else.

You want to throw down like a man? Then take your lumps for being a gargantuan dumbfuck like a man, and stop acting like a baby.

Posted by: brodus

And biggmike777, that was real kind of you to teach your kid the true meaning of sportsmanship at 16. Boy, you'd better hope he doesn't learn to read and think for himself when he gets older...he just might think you're a shitty parent and resent you for it, and wonder why he's not taller.

Then again, I already think you're a shitty parent and that's all I care about. Why don't you just tell your kid you're sorry about that whole "bad genes" thing and tell him how much you love him by feeding him growth hormones. Classic parenting, dickhead. A+ for honesty. Best of luck in the future.

Posted by: zenith

brodus

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Posted by: biggmike777

Brodus, you should learn to mind your own bussiness. I was speaking to the kid not you. A few of his friends he said were taking dbols so I told him if he wanted something stick to legal stuff. I figured it was better than juice at 16. For your information his he has grown 2 inches since then so he will not be short. Ask and get your facts straight.

Posted by: brodus

Oh, my bad.

For a second there I thought I read a post about a parent who gave his kid a steroidal drug because he was insecure about his own genotype.

How silly of me to find that appaling! Now I understand that your post was actually just to help out a fellow 16-year-old fuck his body up. That's so much better!

Since your bag seems to be empty, here's a clue: When you post on public forums that you feed your 16-year-old kid drugs, you make it everyone's business. You're part of the reason there is such opposition to the supplement industry. Congrats!

Posted by: plouffe

Hey man, I'm in the same position as you - Except I probally have a better build.

-- Strict Dieting my friend. High Cals / Proteins and you'll get so much mass. Just have to stick to it, goodluck. You don't need PH's right now, you can make good ass gains naturally with a good ass diet -- Why waste the money/time with Prohormones.

Posted by: brodus

Exactly--if you're making gains and doing it right, and you're young, there is no need to waste the money, and then worry about sides, and losing the gains post cycle, and growing boobies, and going Mr. Clean at 17, and teaching your nutsack how do play dead.

If you're way past growth stages, and you've been training and eating right for a long time, AND you hit a genetic wall, then maybe think about running PH.

I bought M1T, but I don't think I am ever going to need it now that I am still making great gains, and doing it natural. My self esteem has shot through the roof. I don't have to take anything to combat sides, because the only side effect I have is increased confidence, balanced seratonin levels, more energy, and a better outlook on life in general. I also don't shoot blanks, my cholesterol levels are perfect, and my blood pressure and resting heart rate are way low. I didn't do anything magical, at all. All I added was my own willpower to be what I see in my mind. I am nothing special. Everyone can do this. You don't need GanstaTest to be a boss playa.

Posted by: MikeyTony12

Hey,
You gain mass (smooth bulk) if you lift hard, but when I did it I felt more bloated than I like, and I personally wanna stay cut most of the time, and I will never touch any andro again. Plus, I think it messes with your testosterone levels, so u dont wanna have decreased sex drive when you are just starting to get it. This shit fucks with ur balls.

You're only 16, look at lifting as a long term quest. Rome wasnt built in a day. Work hard, eat healthy, and then in a few years when the hot ladies about your physique give you a compliment you will know all the hard work has paid off!

Posted by: CreaKid13

hey brodus dude whats ur problem, i dont give a fuck if you were 100% natural..that doesnt mean shit to me cuz i just want to get as strong as i can before highschool is over.

Posted by: instant

I don't understand why you keep asking questions that your already answering?

You're obviously going to take the 1-ad so hope it goes well for you as you know most people here don't think it's a good idea but hey what do we know.

Have Fun.

Posted by: brodus

Damnn CreaKrak, I guess you weren't able to post on www.dumbfuck.com because you didn't pass the entry question, "how do you spell naturally?" Or was www.myballsleftthebuilding.net fresh out of webspace?

Problem? I'm not the 16-year old biaaatch who keeps trying to get validation for being two points shy of brain dead on an I.Q. scale. If you want to talk problems, you're the one who feels inferior at 16 and thinks "being big" is the end all in high school, and ignores the advice of men who have been there, done that.

Actually, since you mention it, little bitches like you are my problem! You want to be treated like a man, but when the shit goes down you want me to use kid gloves on your pansy ass. You want respect, then earn it and stop opening that gaping tunnel to nothingness called your fucking mouth, and then act like a man and start moving iron more and talking less. Do this for five years, and then see if you're still a pu$$y.

On second thought, juice yourself and stay small for the long-term. You've already decided to be a retarded loser for life, so get on with ho, pump that shit! Drop your standing in the gene pool even FURTHER and contribute more to Iowa's problems!

Oh, and there's some great new sauce coming out called GanstaTest! Maybe TinyMike777 can hook you up. He's knows all about contributing to the decline of a minor...oops, I mean son!

If you can get on the roids quickly enough, and do enough, I might get to read about you in next years Darwin Awards!

Posted by: biggmike777

Brodus you have to stop your sh*t. I said in the original post it was a mistake and he should not take it. Why don't you read. Wait maybe you don't know how. I was pissed enough about what my son took when I did some research on it, but did not know much about it when he told me he was ordering it. At the time I really did not know there were any potent legal supps around. However I gave the correct advice in saying he should not take it so why are you being such an a$$hole about it to me? Look at my pic before you call me tinymike then if you are bigger than me you can call me tinyMike. Othewise I don't think you have a right to. Everyone at the gym calls me bigmike, and that is why I chose that name.

Posted by: brodus

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I gave it to my son about two months before football season and he gained 20lbs.

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I was pissed enough about what my son took when I did some research on it, but did not know much about it when he told me he was ordering it.

So which story is, big dawg? I make a living reading and analyzing things, and it's apparent to me that all you're doing is trying to change your story to appear decent, when in reality your initial post told the truth and displayed you for the foolish ass you are. That's something you and Martha Stewart have in common, except jail time doesn't close growth plates, but steroids do! It's a great tradeoff.

You first claim that you gave him something to make him big, and then want to play backdoor man and say, "oh, I didn't know, he ordered it, I don't research shit my son does with his body..." You're so full of shit.

Dude, I call stupid people whatever I want, and you qualify, so I don't need you to show me your tits, but I'm sure they're big enough for people at your local gym to call you bigmike, so don't get your panties in a knot.

Posted by: instant

I think this post should be closed. Brodus I may agree with you on what you say but I don't think it needs to be said like this.

Please end the pissing match it's annoying.

Posted by: biggmike777

When I said that, I was not getting into the specifics because I did not think anyone would be a pain in the a$$ and need the full story. It was charge on my credit card from my wholesale catalog. I did not research it he did, as I said before he wanted to do dbol and I told him he was nuts if he thought I would get him that. I told him get something legal from the book. I really did not know there were any legal powerful supps at the time. I regret not researching it sooner but no damage was done. I told creakid not to take it so what is your problem. I also mentioned I would not let my son have it again, so shut the f*** up and end this.

Posted by: brodus

Oh, I did see you pic, too. You're right, your arms are big, but I think you've got some proportional problems to work on:

http://www.geocities.com/gregvalenti...b/TH_Gval6.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/gregvalenti...b/TH_Gval5.jpg

Posted by: brodus

Call it a pissing match, instant, but these dumbasses' behavior effects everyone who wants to have free access to supplements, so I call it like it is.

Posted by: biggmike777

Yes but since I said he will not get it anymore you pissing and moaning about it now will do nothing.

Posted by: CreaKid13

brodus you are wrong in thinkin that i was going to take it regardless of what these guys are saying..infact i decided not to take the 1-ad at all, you need to stop sayin shit like that its pretty gay, i know i dont have much experience compared to some of these guys in body building but i was just sayin i wanted a straight answer without being talked to like a child when some of the people tellin me that i was foolish were weaker then i am. the reason i said i wanted to be as strong as i could before highschool was over is because i want to set a record for the highest bench press from a kid in highschool which may be a pretty big dream but i still want to go for it. do you seriously have nothin better to do then make fun of me cuz thats pretty sad.

Posted by: brodus

Well dude, you are a child, and anyone who followed your posts knows all you've been doing is bitching at us for giving you the right advice, and then posting the same question to try and get some sort of positive response for you lunacy. Not to mention your signature tells us all how serious you are about natural growth.

Yet you want to be treated like a man, so I pulled off the gloves.

But now you say I'm picking on you.

So I guess I'll stop holding up the mirror of truth and next time you post, I'll tell you whatever you want to hear.

Posted by: CreaKid13

shut up allready

Posted by: JerseyDevil

Brodus, while I agree with your feelings about teenagers using prohormones, I can't condone name calling, vulgar language and personal attacks. Your condescending tone is a turn off and really hurts the overall quality of this forum.

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