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Calling for Testers for LeptiGen Mass™ and Rebirth™


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Posted by: Twin Peak

They are almost here, LeptiGen Mass™ and LeptiGen Rebirth™.

As such, I am looking for testers. I expect that I'd like to see two testers for Mass™ and 1 for Rebirth™. Please see this thread:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=28370

And read the product write-ups on www.avantlabs.com.

What am I looking for?

LeptiGen Mass™

* Someone who is an experience dieter, and knows there maintenance level calories.
* Someone who is bulking, and will do so at caloric levels slightly (2-300) above maintenance for around four weeks.
* An experienced lifter who doesn't plan on changing their routine.
* Someone who is good at keeping a journal, and will provide before and after measurements and pictures, and weekly measurement updates and subjective feedback.


LeptiGen Rebirth™

* Someone who is a true endomorph, has had a history of being very overfat, and is currently at a relatively high bodyfat level. 20% would be the very minimum.
* Someone who is trying to get down to under 20% BF, but has sufficient experience with diet such that s/he can establish his own.
* Someone who is good at keeping a journal, and will provide before and after measurements and pictures, and weekly measurement updates and subjective feedback for about 6 weeks.


Note: I may ask the testers to stack either of these with another new Avant Labs Product, SesaThin™ as these will be very potent stacks.

Please apply for tester candidacy HERE. I will NOT respond to PMs or emails on this topic. Please tell me why you'd be an ideal candidate. Failure to provide sufficient information (AGAIN HERE) will disqualify you. If we get lots of good applications and I am in a good mood , we might take an extra tester or two.

Also, please note that we are NOT calling for testers of LeptiGen Basic™, but next week we will be calling for testers for our new oral fat burner. My plan is that we would decide by early next week, and the testing would begin the Monday thereafter, though Rebirth™ testing may be a week behind the other.


Posted by: Eggs

I'd like to be the first to apply for that TP.

I believe I fit those qualifications. I'm bulking right now, and eating above maintennance calories. As well as I've been in the weight lifting realm for several years now and have a good bit of experience.

I've read a good bit about Leptigen and its 3 derivitives, and I would truly enjoy testing them for you.


Posted by: BabsieGirl

I'm going to apply for rebirth however I'll have a write up by 1pm today.


Posted by: JLB001

Me me me me me me me..please. for the rebirth one.....I would love to see what it does to the legs!


Posted by: Twin Peak

Great. Not to be a jerk Babs, but please address how your surgery will or will not affect testing.


Posted by: Twin Peak

JLB -- please (1) read the product description on our site (not sure how you expect it to "affect the legs" -- sound like you are thinking of LipoDerm-Y™ and LipoDerm-Ultra™ for which we have tons of great user feedback). And if you still want to apply, please provide some history and background as I asked for above.


Posted by: Eggs

Okay, I'll give you more of a write up in just a minute TP


Posted by: Eggs

Name: Justin
Age: 24
Height: 69"
Weight: 185

Most recent pics: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/ga...r=1360&cat=500

I've been interested in Leptigen Mass since Jenny told me about leptigen originally and I read up on it. I think that it could be an invaluable tool for my bulk to not only make great progress with lean muscle mass gain, but to also keep body fat at a minimum.

I am currently using GPs P/RR/S workout plans, ableit slightly modified.


Posted by: BabsieGirl

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Great. Not to be a jerk Babs, but please address how your surgery will or will not affect testing.

I will do that sugar and, you're not being a jerk! I'll double check with my doctor.

I've been released to start weight training again however, I'm going to start out by proper diet and light cardio for the first week to see how that goes. The second week I'll start my weight training, etc. The weight training I'll be doing is not to put on size, rather tone to help with the melt down process.

Since this is a 6 weeks test, this will not affect my surgery as I'll be on Lupron Depot 3.75 until June or Aug. I can tell you since playing around with hormone pills for my Endo I've packed on 30-40 lbs and it's not coming off easy. I'm at 180lbs & over 20% b/f. Maybe Rebirth will help me and, I can show other women who are going through exactly what I'm going through, that there is still hope! As embarrassing as my photos will look, I'm willing to sacrifice the ego and jump on the wagon to success. I'm sick and tired of being over weight!

What ever decision you make, will be understood

Krystie aka: BabsieGirl
Age: 26
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 180
BF: over or at 20%

If I'm selected, photos, actual measurements, diet & training will be taken and posted from start of testing.


Posted by: JLB001

Alrighty..history:

As of two weeks ago, bodyfat was 24.5% currently dieting down for a natural bbing show June 12th. My goal is to be about 5% by that date with body weight around 120. Current diet is very clean. I do have a person that we work with in regards to my diet and training, bodyfat is tested every two weeks and diet is adjusted accordingly. What is getting me is wanting to eat before my next planned meals etc. I tend to store all my excess fat in my lower body. I can find my before dieting pics in my journal if you like. I'm very anal and can keep a journal to a T and provide any feed back needed. I have used LipoDerm-Y™ and it seems to work well.

What other info would you need?


Posted by: Pepper

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak

LeptiGen Rebirth™

* Someone who is a true endomorph, has had a history of being very overfat, and is currently at a relatively high bodyfat level. 20% would be the very minimum.
* Someone who is trying to get down to under 20% BF, but has sufficient experience with diet such that s/he can establish his own.
* Someone who is good at keeping a journal, and will provide before and after measurements and pictures, and weekly measurement updates and subjective feedback for about 6 weeks.
OK, Pepper applies for Rebirth.

As of this AM on the Tanita (sp?) scales, I am 288 lbs with BF % of 25%. I started at 340 lbs last February and my WEIGHT loss has stalled dramatically. I still think I am losing BF but have become a little frustrated b/c the diet is clean. I am at a BF level that I have been at most of my life, I have NEVER been "thin" since grade school but never been "fat" (read: obese) until a couple of years ago.

My BF goals are way under 20%.

I have been on the "diet" so long that it is not a diet. I used to journal but it became so repetitive that I quit. I have not problems journaling and I take photos once a month...some of those are in my gallery. I have not taken measurments in a while but would have no problem doing so regularly.

I do not know whether I am a an endomorph or not. Perhaps my description and photo will allow you to make that call. I am 37 years old. I lift four days a week and do moderate cardio twice a week. I play basketball one night a week which I consider more than moderate cardio, but some might take issue with that


Posted by: Twin Peak

Pepper, two questions:

1) You have used LeptiGen™ before correct? When did you stop?

2) When did you become a mod? Congrats.

JBL and Babs, it sounds to me like you two are more ideal candidates for LeptiGen Basic™ or the original LeptiGen™, which, unfortunately, we are not taking testers for.

JBL, if your thighs are the problem and you liked Lipo-Y you will love LipoDerm-Ultra™.


Posted by: JLB001

Babsie....he doesn't love us. hehe


Posted by: Pepper

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Pepper, two questions:

1) You have used LeptiGen™ before correct? When did you stop?

2) When did you become a mod? Congrats.
Actually, I still have Leptigen and have been taking just a tablespoon a day for the last few months.

I became a sports mod a couple of months ago. That is one topic I can talk semi-intelligently about


Posted by: zenith

i would be happy to test LeptiGen Mass™ out for you, im 5ft 9 19 years old and ive body build for 3 years.

I do a 3 soemtimes 4 day split routine. i have 4 protien shakes a day and 4 meals my caloric intake is about 3600 give or take a few everyday.

if you wanted me to test i would post somewhere or write up on its everyday effects.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Cool. Pepper is in. If we have one more qualified Endo by monday, I'll take another.


Posted by: JLB001

woohoo Pepper!!!


Posted by: rock4832

When are you looking to do this trial TP? I'm interested in Leptigen Mass after my Comp on May 1. Is that too late? If so, maybe Leptigen Rebirth would be good for me right now. Currently I am using Leptigen Basic. Let me know the time period and then I'll give a write up!


Posted by: Twin Peak

Rock, you mean you are using LeptiGen the original -- Basic hasn't been released yet. For you, Rebirth wouldn't be appropriate.

May 1 is too far away, sorry. Maybe next time. We have lots of new and exciting (read unique) products coming out over the next few months.


Posted by: BabsieGirl

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
Babsie....he doesn't love us. hehe
, it's true.......we get no love...... WE'VE BEEN REJECTED!!!


j/k.....your comment was funny hon.

It's all good darlin. I'm planning on taking my disgusting fatty pictures and posting them next week along with a diet program I tend to use for 6 weeks straight..........I'll post....then RUNNNN and hide......


Posted by: zakk

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
They are almost here, LeptiGen Mass™ and LeptiGen Rebirth™.

As such, I am looking for testers. I expect that I'd like to see two testers for Mass™ and 1 for Rebirth™...

LeptiGen Rebirth™

* Someone who is a true endomorph, has had a history of being very overfat, and is currently at a relatively high bodyfat level. 20% would be the very minimum.
* Someone who is trying to get down to under 20% BF, but has sufficient experience with diet such that s/he can establish his own.
* Someone who is good at keeping a journal, and will provide before and after measurements and pictures, and weekly measurement updates and subjective feedback for about 6 weeks.
name: zakk
age: 25
height: 5' 9"
weight: 258 lbs.
BF%: 25% (Hydrostatic BF test on 2/9/04)
LBM 197 lbs. (2/9/04)

Background:
Overly fat since I can remember. over 200 lbs. at age 12. never below 275 since age 18. Weight loss began on 7/20/03 after returning from a 'wheeling trip on the Rubicon. Saw video of myself and said "That's it". Diet began 7/21/03 with my first weigh in at 353 lbs. size 52 pants, shirt size 3X.

Today:
258 lbs. Size 40 pants, XL shirt. Triathlete in training, with two more events on the horizon (one on Saturday ) Diet and training focus on overall health and fitness.

Workout:
5-6x a week I do AM cardio. Mainly consists of brick Triathlon training (e.g. this morning was a 1000 yd swim with practice transition to bike). PM workouts 3x a week for weight training. Two day split with Back, Bis, Legs on day 1 and Chest, Shoulders, Tris on day 2. Focus on weight with moderate reps (4-8). Last set to failure, got a great workout partner/cook/girlfriend (props to Rita). Abs done on non-lift days at the end of AM cardio.

Current diet is moderate carbs, high protein and low fat. Chicken and egg whites are staple foods.

Current supplements: Whey, glutamine, multi-vitamin, fish oils, Vitamin E & C, calcium supplement with Vitamin D.

Current measurements can be provided. Excel sheet at home (I'm at work). Photos can be taken. Currently have 1 from 20 lbs. ago or so.


Posted by: Monolith

I'll apply for rebirth, too... not much of a shot, but i cant ignore the prospect of free LG.

Age: 20
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 240lbs
Max Weight: ~300lbs @ 16/17yrs.
Lowest Weight: 198lbs @ 19yrs.

Fat all my life. About 2.5 years ago i dropped into severe caloric defecit to drop some weight. Got down to ~250. Went backpacking for 4 months, lost another 25lbs. Came back, began educating myself, dropped down to 198lbs (~12 months ago). Still fat, had no trained muscle. No definition.

Stopped extreme diet, since i was trying to 'cut' nonexistent muscle. Began a newbie 'bulk', which was more or less me eating a bunch of garbage (was in NY for school, no kitchen for meals). Over the summer, got up to about ~248lbs, most of it fat.

For the past 3 months, since the beginning of 2004, i've been carb cycling (nothing but chicken and brown rice, dammit) in an attempt to finally do this right. Bodyweight has dropped ~8lbs, to 240, which is actually ideal... as my goal has been body recomp. Clothes fit much better, and im noticably leaner (although lean has a very relative definition when used to describe my body). Weights have been slowly inreasing.

I've never kept a log of body measurements, or had my bf% checked. Although in my next order from mike i was gonna pick up some calipers...

I'm also gonna be out of town/away from a computer next week, if it makes any difference.

Edit: Oh yeah, ive got a journal here:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=25150

Was initially to get my CC diet dialed in, but since ive finally got it down, it turned into more of a training/supplement log.


Posted by: rock4832

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Rock, you mean you are using LeptiGen the original -- Basic hasn't been released yet. For you, Rebirth wouldn't be appropriate.

May 1 is too far away, sorry. Maybe next time. We have lots of new and exciting (read unique) products coming out over the next few months.
Cool! I'll definately try Lepti Mass after my Comp! Thanks buddy!


Posted by: ddouble

Interested in submitting to Leptigen Mass trial.

Age : 31
Years Training: 5
Height: 5' 8"
Weight: 210
Arms: 18"
Thighs: 27.5"
Waist: 33"
BF%: approx. 12

I believe I am a ecto-meso type. I started out at 130 lbs and worked my way up to 215 in early 2003. Since then, I have been performing steady state recomposition. I have lost five pounds and picked up an inch on my arms and thighs.

I would like to use Mass to improve the rate at which I'm building lean mass. I'm at the stage where I find that getting more than 500 calories above maintenance starts to blur my definition. I like the fact that I'm becoming vascular and wish to continue down that path. I currently eat 300-400 calories above maintenance Mon - Fri. and at maintenance on the weekend.

I am currently training with the HST protocol.
I keep a training and nutrition log in Excel and would have no problem, taking tape measurements as needed.

I currently supplement with the following:
multi-vitamin
NAC and an anti-oxidant blend
creatine, taurine, TMG, IP6
fish oil and lecithin
whey and milk protein isolate

Feel free to ask any clarifying questions. Thanks for your consideration.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Great candidates so far, keep em coming.


Posted by: JLB001

Wow..I don't envy TP for having to pick which person. It would be soooooooooooo difficult!

Babsie...you'll get back down. I have faith in you!


Posted by: derekisdman

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
Alrighty..history:

As of two weeks ago, bodyfat was 24.5% currently dieting down for a natural bbing show June 12th. My goal is to be about 5% by that date with body weight around 120. Current diet is very clean. I do have a person that we work with in regards to my diet and training, bodyfat is tested every two weeks and diet is adjusted accordingly. What is getting me is wanting to eat before my next planned meals etc. I tend to store all my excess fat in my lower body. I can find my before dieting pics in my journal if you like. I'm very anal and can keep a journal to a T and provide any feed back needed. I have used LipoDerm-Y™ and it seems to work well.

What other info would you need?
I don't want to get off subject but is it possible for women to get to 5% without dying?


Posted by: instant

I'm a small guy with some pretty good strength numbers and I definitly have a lot of room to grow. Have a great diet and have been working out for about 2 years. Highschool athelete and working on trying to get into some collegiate sports.

5'7
144
8.1%bf
20 years old

I spend massive time in the gym and wouldn't have any problem keep log or geting you digial pictures.


I am very interested in mass anyway so consideration would be great.

Please PM me for further info you need.


Posted by: JLB001

I haven't died at 8.5%. LOL I don't want to stay that low forever...just a few days. My body is happy being plump. But I can't compete being plump.


Posted by: Monolith

Hey, i just thought, Trailrix would probably be an ideal candidate for Rebirth if he's got the time for the log.


Posted by: Eggs

A little more about me... I have natural tendencies towards between being ectomorph and an endomorph. I am quite capable of putting on weight, but naturally I tend to be thinner, and very good at running and swimming, etc and am not a huge lifter. That said, by staying on top of my diet and eating quite a bit I am able to put on a bit of muscle.

You can see the difference in my photos I have up on IM, from the size differences between last October and now. Since then I've begin to eat quite a bit more (which you can see I'm not as cut) and am focusing on gaining size and strength. I have to be careful not to go under my daily caloric limits, because I can notice bf% changes in just a few days if my diet is off and I dont consume enough calories. Thats why I think one of the reasons Leptigen Mass would be benificial to me in helping my body stay in that "fed" state.

My workout routine varies, as before I stated that I am following GPs P/RR/S, but it varies within defined borders. I'm not currently taking any supps and am getting all my protein naturally. I'm usually big on including 2 to 3 whey shakes a day with fish caps, but I've just been working without it recently to see how my body handled solid foods consistently for its protein intake. I'll add protein shakes back in shortly.

As far as calories go, I try to get in at least 3500 calories a day, and aim for slightly higher generally. For protein I get in between 250-300g per day, and usually 400g a day when I am using whey. Meals are split into 6 meals a day, though I will add a few small ones in if my body is particularily hungry.

I've had quite a bit of experience in journaling and what not, and have had various journals through-out my time in the online fitness community. Its not a problem for me to measure stats, take pics and so on.

Thats about it I'd say, I'd be happy to test this out for you and keep track of what it could do for a body like mine.


Posted by: BabsieGirl

Quote:
Originally posted by Monolith
Hey, i just thought, Trailrix would probably be an ideal candidate for Rebirth if he's got the time for the log.

This is VERY thoughtful of you!!!!!! Very nice!

I vote Trailrix!!!


Posted by: Pepper

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Cool. Pepper is in. If we have one more qualified Endo by monday, I'll take another.
Cool! Thanks. I missed this post until now, don't know how.


Posted by: Eggs

I also think that Trailrix could seriously benefit from rebirth Perhaps TP will be able to talk Avant into giving out a couple extra testing packages


Posted by: Eggs

Hey, congrats on getting accepted Pepper! I hope it helps your break that plateau you feel you are at right now and keep cutting that weight


Posted by: camarosuper6

I would like to apply for LeptiGen Mass.

I am 6'3 213lbs, with a 3,200 calorie per day requirement for building lean mass with minimal bodyfat.

I consume a regular diet of around 225-300 grams of protein per day, around 350 to 400 carbs, and 50 to 75 grams of fats (mostly healthy) during my bulking cycle, which I am doing currently.

I use MAX OT training, but instead of always using 4-6 reps, I alternate every two weeks. I use two weeks 4-6, then I simply take the same weights and try to get 6-8 positive failure. I have been using this style on and off for a year, but have gone back to it for good and have been using it with great success in the past month or two. I will not be chaning this routine for quite some time, IF ever.

I workout each bodypart once a week, and have a journal on IM.(admittingly a very loose one, mainly just to keep my weights online so I can check them from school if I cannot get home to grab my journal before I go to the gym because my true journal is kept at home on paper).

I would be thrilled to be a canidate for LeptiGen Mass.

Thanks

BTW, if you want pictures or exact body measurements, I would be happy to supply them to you.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Great applications guys and gals, keep em coming.


Posted by: camarosuper6

Twiddles his thumbs in anticipation


Posted by: Twin Peak

Patience is a virtue. Monday for decisions.


Posted by: camarosuper6

Hmm... guess it will build character.


Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

I'd like to throw my hat in the ring for Leptigen Mass. Right now I'm in the final weeks of a revolutionary new training program with a focus on hypertrophy, but I'll be finishing up in another 3 weeks or so. I used to train strictly for strength, but I've been trying for a little more mass in recent weeks.


Posted by: camarosuper6

Captain, mind if I ask what your doing differently in training for mass rather than strength?


Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

When I was training for strength, I was focused on the big 3 (squat, bench, and deadlift). Those exercises were the main part of the workout, and the other exercises were chosen to augment the big 3. I was also training abs and lower back (the core) extremely hard. Reps rarely exceed 7-8 in any exercise, and generally were 6 or less for the big 3. There were some days when I'd do only doubles and triples. Rest periods were also longer for strength training than for hypertrophy training.

The details of TP's training program are still under lock and key, but I can say that the training regimen (exercise selection, number of exercises, frequency of training etc) is constantly changing. Reps are generally higher for the mass training vs strength training. Keeping the reps in the specified range is more important than the weight being used.


Posted by: Monolith

Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainDeadlift
When I was training for strength, I was focused on the big 3 (squat, bench, and deadlift). Those exercises were the main part of the workout, and the other exercises were chosen to augment the big 3. I was also training abs and lower back (the core) extremely hard. Reps rarely exceed 7-8 in any exercise, and generally were 6 or less for the big 3. There were some days when I'd do only doubles and triples. Rest periods were also longer for strength training than for hypertrophy training.

The details of TP's training program are still under lock and key, but I can say that the training regimen (exercise selection, number of exercises, frequency of training etc) is constantly changing. Reps are generally higher for the mass training vs strength training. Keeping the reps in the specified range is more important than the weight being used.
Oooooh... intriguing. Is this the Push/Pull routine i think i heard Dante hinting about a few weeks back?


Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

There was a push/pull phase for a while, but to say the entire training program is a push/pull program is very misleading. We were in a push/pull phase for the first 3 weeks. It should have been 4 weeks, but we peaked too quickly. I believe that Dante had access to the private forum (at Avant), so it is possible that was what he was referring to. Hope this helps.


Posted by: ShadowJack

Dante's push/pull routine is quite a bit different from the first 4-week phase of TP's Mass Program. Dante has been doing variations of his push/pull split (on-and-off) for prolly 3 years now. He has several posts over at M&M and bb.com that detail some of the different exercise selections and rep schemes which he has utilized at various times.


Posted by: Monolith

Neat. Looking forward to the writeup.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Cap'n, hit me with and email of your address, and I'll send you a back of it next week -- I have a bunch in bulk.


Posted by: dg806

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Cap'n, hit me with and email of your address, and I'll send you a back of it next week -- I have a bunch in bulk.
This didn't make total sense?? I think your fingers got too quick on you!


Posted by: Twin Peak

back = bag

Opps. Sorry, I am frantically finishing up my Carb Cycling Q&A for Mind and Muscle.


Posted by: dg806

LOL


Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

Thanks, TP.


Posted by: Phred

I am interested in testing for Lepigen Rebirth.

Age - 46
height - 5-7
wt - 6 MAR 2004 - 210 lbs
wt MAR 2003 -195 lbs
BF at 26% currently; BF was at approx 35 % over the past summer.
I find it very easy to add wt and mostly fat. My diet has been mostly clean, with cheats on weekends. I do not drink or smoke.
I have been wt training regularly for over a year and currently work out 6 days a week (one part per day over 6 days) and cardio 4-5 times a day.

I have kept semi weekly weight info for most of the past year and daily work out stats for each work out since Aug 2003.


Posted by: Phred

Correction to my post, cardio is 4-5 times a week, not per day.


Posted by: BabsieGirl

So what's the verdict?


Posted by: Twin Peak

Well folks, its past that time. And I was feeling generous today when I made these decisions. And I have to say that there were some excellent candidates and many of you certainly fit the bill. But here are my selections (already gave some to Cap'n):

LeptiGen Mass

Eggs
Camaro

LeptiGen Rebirth

Pepper
Zakk
Monolith

I was feeling so generous that the Rebirth testers will also be given SesaThin which in combination with Rebirth will be one potent stack for endos. Everyone will get at least 1 months supply, and I expect a journal with honest subjective and objective feedback.

Subjective:

Thoughts and feelings re effects, the way you look, how workouts are going, etc.

Objective:

Pictures, weekly stats (weight, arm girth, stomach, is a minimum).

If you can't meet these criterias, please let me know. If you can, the Mass people should email me their addresses THIS week and the Rebirth people should email me their addresses THE END OF NEXT week.

And for those of you who weren't selected, thanks for your interest. And don't lose hope, I'll be looking for testers for H.E.A.T. Stack next week.

Thanks again.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Okay, people (read -- Pepper) are having trouble following directions. Damn man!!!!

Please reread above re how to get me your address and when.


Posted by: BabsieGirl

Congrats all


Posted by: Pepper

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Okay, people (read -- Pepper) are having trouble following directions. Damn man!!!!

Please reread above re how to get me your address and when.
ok, you got me on the when...but the how? I tried to email you and it said you don't permit emails. So, I used a PM.

I am proud that I managed to get you to use a smiley though


Posted by: Twin Peak

You sure you used the right emails. I get emails all the time. Weird. Maybe it just doesn't like you?

Hit me up again next week, with a PM if you have to.


Posted by: camarosuper6

I too got the same response from your email TwinPeak. I gave you a detailed PM. Hope you dont mind.


Posted by: Monolith

Hey, cool beans.

Thanks TP.


Posted by: SpinQueen

Damn! I just missed this.

I would have been good for the Rebirth test.

5' 8"
185 lbs
26% bf
Female 22

Oh, well. I just pre-ordered some Rebirth anyway. It's being shipped soon, no?


Posted by: Twin Peak

It might have already started.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Rebirth folks can email me at twinpeak@avantlabs.com now.

Thanks.


Posted by: Dale Mabry

Shit


Posted by: Twin Peak

Still haven't heard from Eggs and Zakk. You have until tomorrow to send me your addresses.


Posted by: Dale Mabry

Dale Mabry wants some, and Duncan agrees.

BTW TP, I am on a little 2 week cut and then I will be ready for your training regimen. I will be hitting the Test though, can't remember if this is a nullifier or not.


Posted by: Eggs

I sent an e-mail TP, sorry I didnt respond earlier... I was out of country the past 10 days. Thanks alot, I'm looking forward to participating in your testing!


Posted by: topolo

excuses, excuses


Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

Quote:
Originally posted by Dale Mabry
BTW TP, I am on a little 2 week cut and then I will be ready for your training regimen.
Well it's about time. Beast and I could use a little company. Are you waiting for ALL the kinks to be worked out?


Posted by: camarosuper6

Im really curious to what your guys's routine is!


Posted by: camarosuper6

Im also in anticipation of my shipments arrival


Posted by: Twin Peak

Soon. On both accounts.


Posted by: camarosuper6

Excellent. The UPS brought a delivery to my house yesterday, but alas, it was for my brother. I was all happy n' excited only to see his boring paperwork at the foot of the door.

They say anticipation is have the fun.

Nah.


BTW, Twin, do you think theres any chance I could get a sample workout of somekind by Monday, the same day I will start my Leptigen Mass? Hehe...

Im sure you would rather me use my regular routine as to have the constant variables intact, but I sure am looking forward to that workout!


Posted by: SpinQueen

My Leptigen Rebirth arrived yesterday. Started taking it today. I've already noticed a decrease in appetite.

I was thinking of trying some Anorect-IN. Can I use it with the Rebirth, TP?


Posted by: dsade

These shipped out yesterday (Thursday).

And SpinQueen...yes you can use Anorect-IN with ReBirth. :-)


Posted by: camarosuper6

You guys are located in California right dsade?


Posted by: dsade

We sure are.


Posted by: camarosuper6

EXCELLENT. I'm also in California, which means my shipment should be here tommorrow

I wish you guys were hiring, I really like your company


Posted by: dsade

As fast as we are growing, it wont be long at all until we are.


Posted by: camarosuper6

Hate to use this thread as an employment opportunites thread, but what positions might you have available soon.

I really am looking to possibly get my foot in the door, and move my way up.


Posted by: dsade

It is really hard to predict right now. There are several directions we are considering, along with several subsidiary divisions. Creative, intelligent, rational/philosophical people are valuable in any capacity.


Posted by: SpinQueen

Well sign me up! I swear by avant products. Of course, I'd have to be a cross-country employee. I'm in FL


Posted by: TFletch

Sign me up for that fat burner....I haven't taken one in years and I'm 12 weeks out from a show. My journaling skills are borderline OCD anyway for my peronal use. (good statistical measurement of progress)

Stats
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 222 lbs (12 weeks out)
BF: 12.5% electronically/ 9.4% calipers

Morning/Throughout Day
Multivitamin
Vitamin C,E,Zinc
Fish Oil: 6g-10g daily
PaCT: 4 squirts daily (only a few days left)
ALA: Refeed days only

Protein Powders
Ultra Peptide
Whey Protein Concentrate

Preworkout
Kreataine Ultra: 10g
GO: 10g

During workout
ICE: 20g
Dextrose: 40g

Training
Mon: Chest/Shoulders/Back & Clean Cardio
Tue: Legs/Arms
Wed: Rest
Thur: Chest/Shoulders/Back
Fri: Legs/Arms
Sat: Rest - Clean Cardio
Sun: Rest

Current Diet
Training Days
P/C/F - 300g/260g/50g

Rest Days
P/C/F - 300g/200g/50g

Refeed Days
P/C/F - 250g/500g/50g

- Fletch "Supplement Feedback Champion" B)


Posted by: Twin Peak

Nice try.


Posted by: TFletch

It was worth a shot. Layne is gonna be some tough competition to hang with this summer as lean as he is already.

Keep that shoulder intact for the Olympia TP so I can lay the smack down in the gym on ya.

- Fletch "At least if that fat burner didn't help it'd be the best documented negative feedback EVER!!"


Posted by: Fitgirl70

TP, do you think you'll do this type of applicatory process for the HEAT testers?

this was a very good process, by the way
Fit


Posted by: Eggs

TP - I recieved the Leptigen Mass today. Will have pics up tonight, stats will come tomorrow so they are fresh from the gym. Looking forward to seeing how it works!


Posted by: camarosuper6

Good luck Eggs. I started on Monday ...watch out for killer pumps


Posted by: Eggs

Oooh, I am!




Posted by: Pepper

When will the Rebirth ship?


Posted by: Twin Peak

Already should have. If you don't get it by tuesday, email me.


Posted by: kausion

sent you a pm twin with my info get back to me


Posted by: kausion

sorry didnt read carefully enough twin sorry bout the pm.i'm 22 yrs old,from near cleveland ohio,6'5,320 just weighed myself,lookin to loose bodyfat as i have posted in few my threads.started my online journal,i'm about 25% BF,54in chest,63in around shoulders,48in around gut,34in thigh,21in calf,20in bi,14in fore.been on my diet 4 weeks now high pro low carbs 5 meals a day,takin a eca stack of 1 pill twice a day of xenadrine rfa-1,taking glutamine 1 pill twice a day,multi vita one pill twice a day,flax oil 1pill twice a day,fish oil 1 pill twice a day,lifting light weight high reps 5 days on 2 days off split through week.45mins day of cardio with light ab training.can get recent pics to journal.please get back to me with any info thanks


Posted by: Twin Peak

I think all testing should have begun by now.

Can you guys please post journal links here?

Also, if the journals could include at least weekly subjective thoughts, even if it is "I don't notice a damn thing yet" that would be helpful.

Thanks all.


Posted by: Pepper

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=30168


Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
I think all testing should have begun by now.
I haven't. I've got three more days to go on a top-secret training plan and then I've been given the go-ahead to start the Leptigen.


Posted by: Monolith

Monolith's Rebirth/Sesathin journal -
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=30478


Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

Quote:
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Can you guys please post journal links here?

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=30826


Posted by: Eggs

Justin/Eggs Leptigen Journal -

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=29698


Posted by: ruvainc

Not sure if its too late but I am the perfect candidate for LeptiGen Rebirth.

Was overweight entire life with very high body fat. Have spent almost 2 years working out and dieting and although I have built plenty of muscle and am in pretty good shape, still have body fat above 20%.

I am a 43 year old male and work out just about every day. I would probably have success with it since although I spent most of my prior life on starvation diets, I have corrected my ways and seem to need something to get the body fat down. I am ready to put in the work and am the perfect candidate.


Posted by: Twin Peak

Sorry, this has been closed for a long time now.



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