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Anti Progests' "gym legend"
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Posted by: Power Rabbit
Ok. This story began when I happened apon some bromo tabs by mistake(well more as a free gift). I knew what they were, but I didnt know enough about them so I spent alittle time researching.
During this time, while I was looking, I kept seeing people posting that mega doses of B6 and Vitex will stop progest/prolact gyno. Some even said that it was nearly as effective as bromo. For the life of me I cannot find any research about this, or even can understand why these substances would work.
And so since im pissed that I can find anything about this, someone convince me or point me to some research that I cant find. Are vitex/b6 as a anti-p just rumor??
Posted by: Mudge
I am hearing that bromo has some nasty sides, but dostinex is "much more expensive."
I have NO concernts about tren gyno or anything like that, and I dont think its that common. I ran tren 100mg a day for awhile and no gyno problems.
There is a thread on 'ology about the B6 possibilities, TxLonghorn is going to give it a shot I think, and he says he is very gyno prone with test or deca/tren.
Posted by: Power Rabbit
yea it does have some bad sides...thats why b6/vitex as a preventitive measure would be cool...but there is just too much gym rumor about it....
Posted by: Mudge
From the sounds of things nobody has really tried it, at least in that particular circle.
Posted by: Power Rabbit
I actually found research on it...lots of discussions about it on 'ology..seems b6 actually does work...I hear there is research TMG also working...cant find it though:-/ And vitex is just rumor as far as i can tell...
J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1976 Mar;42(3):603-6
Effect of pyridoxine on human hypophyseal trophic hormone release: a possible stimulation of hypothalamic dopaminergic pathway.
Delitala G, Masala A, Alagna S, Devilla L.
A single dose of pyridoxine (300 mg iv) produced significant rises in peak levels of immunoreactive growth hormone GH and significant decrease of plasma prolactin PRL in 8 hospitalized healthy subjects. Serum glucose, luteinizing hormone LH, follicle stimulating hormone FSH and thyrotropin TSH were not altered significantly. In addition, in 5 acromegalic patients who were studied with both L-dopa and pyridoxine, inhibition of GH secretion followed either agent in a similar pattern. These data suggest a hypothalamic dopaminergic effect of pyridoxine.
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N Engl J Med 1982 Aug 12;307(7):444-5
Pyridoxine (B6) suppresses the rise in prolactin and increases the rise in growth hormone induced by exercise.
Moretti C, Fabbri A, Gnessi L, Bonifacio V, Fraioli F, Isidori A.
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Boll Soc Ital Biol Sper 1984 Feb 28;60(2):273-8
[Influence of administration of pyridoxine on circadian rhythm of plasma ACTH, cortisol prolactin and somatotropin in normal subjects]
[Article in Italian]
Barletta C, Sellini M, Bartoli A, Bigi C, Buzzetti R, Giovannini C.
The influence of vitamin B6 in a dosage of 300 mg X 2 in 24 hrs, on circadian rhythm of plasmatic ACTH, cortisol, prolactin and somatotropin have been studied in 10 normal women. After vitamin B6 24 hrs pattern of ACTH and cortisol is unchanged; prolactin levels are slightly lower, in a statistically unsignificant proportion the night peak of growth hormone is higher in a statistically significant proportion (p. 0.05). The effect of vitamin B6 is likely to me mediated by dopaminergic receptors at hypothalamic level as previous studies by other Authors appear to prove
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