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Originally posted by gwcaton Good luck Jill ! Give it your best , I'm pulling for you . |
The support is always needed-I mean, look at me yesterday, I was a pure ol bitch! Just had oaties....
Back to the nice me now!
You can do it!
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Originally posted by JLB001 ok...wear jeans and a turtle neck. We can still hunt for shells and beach glass in that. |
That is what I have my clients do and I guarantee you won't have a better cardio session than that. I hate those damn machines.
How would you do interval skipping? Like skip really fast for a minute, and then slow? Should you do this on an incline?
I only had 1/2 with my oats. My next meal Ill probably eat 1 1/2 or 2, with some sf jam. I brought my toaster to work! Considering I have never used it before! At all!
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Originally posted by ncgirl21 How would you do interval skipping? Like skip really fast for a minute, and then slow? Should you do this on an incline?
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Originally posted by Jill I only had 1/2 with my oats. My next meal Ill probably eat 1 1/2 or 2, with some sf jam. I brought my toaster to work! Considering I have never used it before! At all!
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Originally posted by Jill Hey babsie! Today is a high carb day for me, I remember NOW why i like cc! I tried the atkins bagels today-20p, 20c for 1 bagel, not bad eh? Hey NT! What type of meal plan is the misses go on? Is it worth the 50-60$ to go see Donna? What is the misses cals per day? Mycat-A snake on your door step? I had a dream about snakes last night....texas is a callin me! |
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Originally posted by Jill My ass and hips and gut just seem to be growing on a daily basis no shit! Ahhhh, Im a bitter lady tonight. |
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Originally posted by Jill MEAL 4: 1 & 1/2 atkins bagels, 1T sf jam, veggies (30P, 33C, 6F) [/SIZE][/B] |
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Originally posted by sara These bagels are so addicting and they never fill me up
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Originally posted by Jill Thanks Jodi-Im thinking about possibly starting to run again-except my knees are fucked-do you think the incline walking is better for fat burn? Thanks "kitty"....I have to be hard on myself, Its just how I am. |
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Originally posted by Jill Too late-I just had some trail mix-It was approx 1/2 cup-mostly seeds, almonds, cashews and just a few raisins. I updated my diet, no pb tonight I seriouslly think about trail mix all day, its fucked. |
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Originally posted by greekblondechic Is your diet lacking something? Not eating enough? |
Maybe prof help.
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Originally posted by greekblondechic If you are not getting enough food/cals/carbs...lettuce wont do the trick... Maybe you should try something more stable.. I dont think carb cycling is right for those with eating disorder histories/tendencies... |
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Originally posted by JLB001 oh ok! It was just an idea. I miss my red meat! |
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Originally posted by JLB001 Umm...nope not at all. Craig and I are on a cutting diet, our nutritionist has ruled out cow aka red meat! Not indian meat. Dude your mind is in the gutter! Don't you need to go play with the bois? |
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Originally posted by greekblondechic my mind is always in the gutter..and last i checked i was female.. maybe i should go check again
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Originally posted by JLB001 I get bitchy with tri cyclen. Too strong for me. Didn't gain weight. Only got that with those depo shots. |
I gained weight on the pill. I'm on depo and I don't gain weight from that. Its so strange sometimes how we all react differently to different BC.
Im such a pain in these daily rants
going for something more balanced daily is what you need I think. feeling deprived, etc on no carb days seems to hit you bad. 
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Originally posted by IainDaniel Hey Jill, You should do what makes you happy, because when it all comes down it, that is all that really matters. You know we all will support whatever decision you make, but I think this is the smart one. Just try and get things in order. Forget about weight loss for a while(I know easier said than done), just focus on a healthy lifestyle. Because in rea;ity that is what we are all trying to achieve. Keep it up, you will find a plan that suits your lifestyles, life is about learning and experimenting
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Originally posted by JLB001 I get bitchy with tri cyclen. Too strong for me. Didn't gain weight. Only got that with those depo shots. |
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Originally posted by JLB001 I used the depo shots years ago when they first started with them. I swear I put on 15lbs in 3 months. I use Mircette now, its low estrgen(sp), no weight gain, and no mood swings. I've also tried that patch, omg...not a good choice for me. Bitch from hell on that too. Jillie...Go take my diet out of my journal. Change a few of the things to suit you better. You can always add more carbs in it, its a prety good basic diet and can be very struchered. (God...I can not spell today!)
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Good Luck with whatever you decide!
Great chest and cardio workout, after weighing myself this am I needed it! And Jodie-Im gonna still stick with about 6 meals a day, high prot, low fat, and NOT get fixated over fucking carbs, they wont make me fat.
Nah..they won't. I think its the fats that make me go plump!
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Originally posted by Jill Aj, jstar, ID, Kitty, Saphy, Andrea, and Jodie-I am so blessed to have all this support here-if it wasnt for all of ya, Id probably still be purging. You are all really too sweet. I need to take the word diet out of my vocab, and just focus health eating, and controlling portions, cravings etc... AJ-ya, i was up super early, at the gym by 6am! Great chest and cardio workout, after weighing myself this am I needed it! And Jodie-Im gonna still stick with about 6 meals a day, high prot, low fat, and NOT get fixated over fucking carbs, they wont make me fat.
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Originally posted by JLB001 Nah..they won't. I think its the fats that make me go plump!
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You can't use Depo, I can. I can eat fat (don't like it though), you can't.
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Originally posted by Jill NOT get fixated over fucking carbs, they wont make me fat. |
just be sure to do something that fits your needs, as well as allowing you to follow a happy lifestyle.
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Originally posted by Jill Morning all! bloated from last nights binge...Decided something this am. Stepped on the scale-frist time in about a month, the highest # Ive seen in a looooooooooong time! Glad that I saw that. (I know I didnt put on pounds of muscel in a short period of time) Imquitting carb cycyling due to the restrictive nature of the no carb days, as we can see it has affected me on the 3rd day, I suck. Im just going to focus on eating balanced, high protein, mod carb, low fat. Im kinda relieved. I know I said several times "I need structrue", but I think It caused me to binge. I cant let my body get fat again-I already have partly, I wont do it again. Im taking control now. Im such a pain in these daily rants
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I just need some sort of guide-If I had weighed myself 2 weeks ago I may have never let my self go all crazy eating these last few weeks, and binging. This am opened my eyes. I just wanna be happy with myself, you know? Food sucks....although I just bought a slow cooker-I've had a nice lean roast in there for 8 hours...man its gonna be good!
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, they should last a while!!!! AJ, I dont think hairspray expires.
how come sweetie? Cheerp up Jillybean! 
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Originally posted by Jill Good girl Greeky. Im gonna try to do things a how I was about a year ago. I wasnt "watching" carbs, just trying to eat healthy, everything in moderation, I WASNT BINGING EITHER! I only started binging these last few months. Back to doing a little more cardio, cause it really did help me-I was 15-20 pounds lighter a year ago. I know I put on SOME muscle, this last year, but lets guess 5 pounds. I am also alot more knowledgeable about nutrition now, so that will help. Im also taking in shakes regularly now, which I know is good. |
This is what I mean about the rules and restrictions NOT working for us. For some people it helps and for others it just causes undue stress (eat X grams of carbs per day; etc.) I find that when I just try to eat clean that I end up naturally carb cycling anyways. If I feel really drained or crave carbs I eat more for a couple days and some days I don't crave them at all.
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Originally posted by Jill 03/19 MEAL 1: Protein, 3 straws, 2 fishies (25P, 6C, 2F) ~Train MEAL 2: 2/3C oats, 1/2C cc, 1 ew, protein, 3 straws, 1T coco (25.5P, 53C, 1F) MEAL 3: WW pita, 3.5oz chix, veggies (29P, 26C) MEAL 4: Protein, veggies (27P) *Bit of trail mix, few mini eggs. Didnt eat the whole bag, givin myself some credit!* MEAL 5: 4.5oz lean roast, 5oz sweet potato, 1T ff sour cream, veggies, sf jello (30P, 30C, min fat) MEAL 6: Probably ew's and coco WEEKLY TRAINING: 03/19 Chest, 47 mins cardio Flat DB 20/10, 25/9, 25/9, 30/7, 30/8 Incline DB 25/9, 25/9-drop-17.5/9, 30/8-drop-17.5/8, 30/8-drop-17.5/7, 30/8-drop-17.5/8 Flat DB flys 25/8, 25/8-drop-17.5/8, 25/8-drop-20/7, 25/8-drop-20/7 Peck deck 60/9, 60/8, 60/7-drop-45/6 Did this workout this am, my chest is already sore to the touch!! 03/18 Bis, 40 mins cardio Seated DB curls 15/10, 15/9, 15/8-drop-10/8, 15/8-drop-10/8 DB Hammers 15/8, 15/9, 17.5/6-drop-10/8, 17.5/6-drop-10/8 Wide grip BB curls 30/8, 30/8 Close grip BB curls 30/7, 30/7, 30/7 1 arm cable curls 12.5/10, 20/8, 20/8-drop-10/10 I'm really liking drop sets, the just give such a good burn! 03/17 Legs, 15 mins warm up cardio Walking DB lunges wt*2 17.5/10, 17.5/10, 17.5/10 DB lung on step wt*2 20/8, 20/8, 20/8 Calf raises 70/8, 70/8, 70/8 Lying leg curl-just got the machine, luv it! 30/8, 30/8, 30/8, 35/8 DB dead lifts wt*2 35/8, 35/8, 35/8, 35/8 Leg press wt*2 90/10, 100/8, 100/8, 110/8, 110/8 Leg extension 50/8, 50/8, 50/8, 50/8 Hip adductor 125/9, 125/9, 130/7 Ok leg workout, still am sore....My last few days of cardio was paaaaiiiiinfull!!! 03/16 Back, 40 mins cardio T bar row 25/9, 25/8, 30/8, 35/6 Wide grip lat PD 60/8, 60/8, 65/8, 70/7, 70/7-drop-70/8 Seated row CG 60/10, 65/8, 70/8, 75/7-drop-40/9 1 arm DB rows 30/9, 30/9, 30/8 BB rows 45/8, 45/8 Bent over DB lateral raises 15/8, 15/8, 15/8, DB shrugs 50/8, 50/7, 45/8, 45/8 This was agreat workout, I was sore for like 2-3 days!!! I will be posting workouts daily, this is to much friggin work at once!
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Originally posted by greekblondechic I wanna move in too, we can have pool parties
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chix bbqed, veggies, bite of cheese, sf jello
I work right next to a Safeway, they have the best trail mix in bulk...Im always sooooooooo tempted
(I could have eaten more! he he)
5oz aint much! I could eat a whole pound myself!
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Originally posted by DrChiro so are all these HOT women moving in with me and my girlfriend? SWEEEEEEEET! |
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Originally posted by JLB001 Jstar....we don't allow thongs at the pool. There is a nude beach somewhere on the coast about an hour from here. LOL |
And I think I pulled my trappie, its killing me!!! Hey Jodie, I love incline powerwalking, I cant believe how high my heart rate can get walking at such a slow speed!
hope you ate well before and after the gym! seriously you should see me walking down the sidewalk.. MAKE WAY!!! 
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Originally posted by Jill Why would that be mycat? |
Skinny Slices? You guys really call them skinny slices?
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Originally posted by Jill 03/21 MEAL 1: 1/2C oaties, 1/2C cc, 1 ew, protein, 1T coco, straws (25.5P, 43C, 1F) ~Train MEAL 2: 1/2C oaties, 1/2C cc, 1 ew, protein, straws, bite of chix (30P, 48C, 1F) MEAL 3: Ribs-just a few, salad, rice, bread, pumpkin pie <-----Went to Steves mamas house for dinner. Had very small portions so that was good!(?P, ?C, ?F) MEAL 4: Trail mix-between 1/2-1 cup, sf jello (???????) Meals didnt go so good today. Might have a bit of protein b4 bed. Trying to limit cals cause of the din din! WORKOUT 03/21 Back, shoulders, 40 mins cardio WG lat PD 60/9, 60/8-drop-45/8, 60/8-d-45/8, 60/8-d-45/8 Seated row-machine 50/10, 55/8-d-25/10, 60/8-d-30/10, 65/7-d-35/9 1 arm DB rows 25/10, 30/8, 30/8-d-20/7, 30/8-d-20/7, 30/7-d-20/7 Bent over DB lats 15/9, 15/9, 15/8 Seated DB pressess 20/10, 20/9-d-12.5/8, 20/8-d-12.5/7 DB front raises 12.5/10, 12.5/9-d-7.5/9, 15/7-d-7.5/8 DB side raise 12.5/8-d-7.5/8, 12.5/7-d-7.5/8 Seated reverse od DB laterals 7.5/10, 10/9, 12.5/8-d-10/6 DB shrugs 45/9, 45/9, 45/9, 45/8 Will probably never do these 2 bodyparts together again, took waaaaaaaaaay to long. Really liking doing drop sets. Have been focusing a lot on very perfect form, and the negative as well. |
BTW Im glad you got rid of that HUGE pic, maybe just resize it!
he's actually a guy off of a brilliant game series <-----Went to Steves mamas house for dinner. Had very small portions so that was good!
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Originally posted by Cardinal For this to work you can (should imo) pretty much make your own list. One idea might be start with all typical clean bbing foods and keep the ones you know a binge on wouldn't hurt you. I like your idea now best, just to eat healthy and not be too concerned with bf. I definitely have more control over binging now that I am back to my setpoint or thereabouts and you may experience the same thing. If it is the binging tendency you want to rid yourself of, make it a top priority over other bbing goals (as it seems you are already doing). Don't let cutting bulking/hypertrophy or anything else get in the way of tackling this problem. I can handle adding in oats and brown rice without totally destroying my physique now lol. I made some notes a while back about foods I ate dieting and another about ways I stopped a binge. So I'll relay some of those here. Specific diet foods that you might not think of: Promise ff butter (tub = 80 cals, can eat by the tub) SF Jam(I used this on refeeds only) SF Jello (forget the packs...make gallon or more at a time) FF cheese Philadelphia ff cream cheese (a tub will run you about 210 kcals, and I ate it by the tub) Typical fibrous veggies (broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, lettuce....if needed I would eat multiple pounds each day) Cary's syrup(you won't binge on this easily, it has quite the laxative effect so it is binge safe in my book) Hershey's (made w/sorbitol) Mustard/salt Salsa (more for refeeds again) Splenda Blue Bunny Fudge lites (35 kcals/bar, could be eaten in boxes of 12) SF gum coffee egg whites (try eating 20-40 at once, still low cal and more satisfying than a can of tuna) mozarella cheese(it didn't make me binge and I used it on veggies along with the promise) Psyllium husk (if this tastes good plain, you have been dieting too long) That along with a few more typical bbing foods was a good part of my diet. To stop a binge (some of these I have not used) 1)E HCL, bromo nicotine (I used none of these) 2)Induce insulin spike with low cals to help go to sleep 3)Allow bf to creep up 4)Divert your attention (work, sex, you get the idea) 5)IP6, hydroxycitric acid (suggestions from Spook, i never tried) 6) Increase fiber 7)Get lots of calorie free stuff 8)5htp (tried it, it didn't do anything for me) 9) Choose foods that take a long time to eat and enjoy. Those fudge bar I mentioned took forever to eat so the cals stayed low. That is basically all I came up with back when I was more insane than usual and too far below my setpoint. They worked for me. Just a page out of my journal more or less. -Cardinal |
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Originally posted by hacman I was just lookin to these forums for a little advice and good knowledge, and imagine my surprise I see the most beautful girl on the sites picture and I know her lol. Fancy seeing you here Jill I read you journal and its great to see your doing good. Peace |
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Originally posted by Cardinal For this to work you can (should imo) pretty much make your own list. One idea might be start with all typical clean bbing foods and keep the ones you know a binge on wouldn't hurt you. I like your idea now best, just to eat healthy and not be too concerned with bf. I definitely have more control over binging now that I am back to my setpoint or thereabouts and you may experience the same thing. If it is the binging tendency you want to rid yourself of, make it a top priority over other bbing goals (as it seems you are already doing). Don't let cutting bulking/hypertrophy or anything else get in the way of tackling this problem. I can handle adding in oats and brown rice without totally destroying my physique now lol. I made some notes a while back about foods I ate dieting and another about ways I stopped a binge. So I'll relay some of those here. Specific diet foods that you might not think of: Promise ff butter (tub = 80 cals, can eat by the tub) SF Jam(I used this on refeeds only) SF Jello (forget the packs...make gallon or more at a time) FF cheese Philadelphia ff cream cheese (a tub will run you about 210 kcals, and I ate it by the tub) Typical fibrous veggies (broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, lettuce....if needed I would eat multiple pounds each day) Cary's syrup(you won't binge on this easily, it has quite the laxative effect so it is binge safe in my book) Hershey's (made w/sorbitol) Mustard/salt Salsa (more for refeeds again) Splenda Blue Bunny Fudge lites (35 kcals/bar, could be eaten in boxes of 12) SF gum coffee egg whites (try eating 20-40 at once, still low cal and more satisfying than a can of tuna) mozarella cheese(it didn't make me binge and I used it on veggies along with the promise) Psyllium husk (if this tastes good plain, you have been dieting too long) That along with a few more typical bbing foods was a good part of my diet. To stop a binge (some of these I have not used) 1)E HCL, bromo nicotine (I used none of these) 2)Induce insulin spike with low cals to help go to sleep 3)Allow bf to creep up 4)Divert your attention (work, sex, you get the idea) 5)IP6, hydroxycitric acid (suggestions from Spook, i never tried) 6) Increase fiber 7)Get lots of calorie free stuff 8)5htp (tried it, it didn't do anything for me) 9) Choose foods that take a long time to eat and enjoy. Those fudge bar I mentioned took forever to eat so the cals stayed low. That is basically all I came up with back when I was more insane than usual and too far below my setpoint. They worked for me. Just a page out of my journal more or less. -Cardinal |
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Originally posted by Jill I used to do tonnes of cardio-I sware it kept me lean. Im going back to my old ways, sort of, just not AS much cardio. No more than 45 mins per day. plus it makes me feel like a million bucks! |
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Originally posted by Stacey Hey honey!! I agree with ya-- cardio keeps me lean!!! I stopped doing it for a few weeks & only doing weights (doing cardio just twice a week) & I could see the weight coming ON me. Some people do much better with more cardio--I'm definatley one of them. I do take My CLA's though to keep the muscle & you are right--- You feel awesome! |
, Gary if it was your twin I could only be so lucky!!!!