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Originally posted by Jezziah The name alone is reason enough not to try it.
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Originally posted by Michael D Ahhh, I see. I didn't have the capacity to imagine anyone would want to be a gangsta and could actually think a product would make him "cool". My mistake. |
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Originally posted by BruceWayNE Too expensive for me as well. But If I can put up with the taste of some of this stuff for the sake of gains I could look pass the name. Unless it was called gay guy juice or queer juice. I'd have a hard time with that one.LOL. |
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Originally posted by Jezziah or were you talkling about this gangsta test...http://www.bodo.com/jokes/jgang.htm |
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Originally posted by newby So now you all got that out of your system. How about an answer to the original question. Has anybody used GANGSTA?:o |
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Originally posted by brodus Okay, I'm with you almost, but that's really kind of a silly argument. Why is it respectable to charge more than any other company when all you're paying for is ads and names no one really likes? In general, VPX is twice as expensive as similar products, or products that have same/similar results. In other words, if you were presented with two race cars with identical parts, and one had a flashy exterior called "extreme speed series," but went no faster, and cost twice as much, which one would you chose? |
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Originally posted by titans1854 If it's just M1T product then half the people on the site have used it. Go look up 1-Test and M1T. |
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Originally posted by brodus It's getting old for you? Why, by your own admission, you and everyone else at VPX is making a ton of money--why do you care what we say? VPX alreday has an exit strategy from the PH market, yes? They don't spend any of their money on stopping legislation, correct? Maybe you should expand your perceptual focus and see its getting even older for the consumers who have a brain. No one is crying or getting angry. A person asked a question about a product, and people are giving their honest opinions. Your company makes products that work, but cost upwards of 200% what others do and come with labels and names that look like they were designed for a joke on Conan O'Brian. Consumers are entitled to their opinion, and no one here said VPX products don't work. Concerns of price and hype are very real to many people, because actions speak louder than words, and greed is something many people wish to distance themselves. You don't get a bully pulpit here, this is a public forum. If you're so confident about the intergity of VPX, why don't you go post this same stuff on AM and see how long it lasts? I'm sure you know how much they care for you over there. Or better yet, why don't you let consumers talk about our experiences without feeling the need to butt in. It only makes VPX look bad, not good. If you knew even the first rules of leaderhsip and perception, you'd know that confident people don't need to get defensive about their work if they truly believe they are doing a good job. Hey GoPro--who exactly is the target market for Gangsta Test, anyway? Any plans on packaging it with an Eminem CD and doing in-school demos? |
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Originally posted by brodus To that end, the owner of VPX is a pimp to the highest degree--look at what he's done. $10000 says he doesn't use Gangsta Test and doesn't workout even 10% as much as the hos he employs. |
| YES IT WORKS! YES, FOR DRY GAINS! YES, HAS HIGH DHT AND ANDROGENIC SIDE EFFECTS! TRY IT, YOU'LL PROBABLY LIKE IT! |
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Originally posted by brodus BruceWayne, being black and working out at a gym does not make you a "Gansta" nor a "Gangster." "Gangstas" don't buy gym memberships and they sure as hell don't buy gangsta test, and if you think otherwise, you're not very intelligent, you've never slung a drug in your life, you've never talked your way out of time, and you don't know the first thing about the game, so quit your bullshitting about LA "ganstas" working out at your gym. I'm sure you've never even met anyone that moves kilos of anything serious or uses a gun to settle disputes, so stop pretending they work out at your gym. I workout in urban Chicago, I've done my time, and I have associates who have moved mass quantities of everything, so I know what I'm talking about. Those people in your gym aren't playing the game, their being sold shit, and that's why they're a far cry from a real OG. The game is pimps and bitches, your either a seller or a buyer, and no real MFer is going to waste time buying shit from anyone when there's paper to be made, and angle to run, and new hos in town to pimp. To that end, the owner of VPX is a pimp to the highest degree--look at what he's done. $10000 says he doesn't use Gangsta Test and doesn't workout even 10% as much as the hos he employs. So I guess this thread should be closed, b/c indeed, the name is very appropriate, and to the original poster: YES IT WORKS! YES, FOR DRY GAINS! YES, HAS HIGH DHT AND ANDROGENIC SIDE EFFECTS! TRY IT, YOU'LL PROBABLY LIKE IT! |
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Originally posted by BruceWayNE I read your first argument and thought to my self this guy makes a point. I thought you presented your argument intelligently. Then you Fucked up and assumed you could call me out based on assumptions of what I know and what I do. I'm not proud of it, but fuck it. I did sell drugs. My father is a gangsta from HOOVER. My mom was from Hoover. My best friend is doing fifty to life right now for murder. My father is in prison right now for selling drugs. I've been in more fights and shoot-outs than I care to mention. I got out of that life for my kids and because I have a more promising career ahead of me in rap. But You sound stupid now, making uncharted assumptions. Based on what? Because My name is brucewayne on this board. Because you assumed I was White. A lot of the dudes I know from my gym are gangstas, And if you don't think so come and tell them they aint. LA Fitness on La Cienega and 18th. Or You can come and holla at me on Crenshaw and Washington. |
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Originally posted by brodus Bruce, if you're not lying, then you have a right to react that way and I owe you an apology. I shouldn't assume anything about you, having never met you, and only having your posts to go by. I told myself I wouldn't flame people anymore, but sometimes after popping ephedrine I get too hot. I have this displaced anger thing sometimes because I've seen a lot of shit, and I know it's not healthy. But I'm especially trying to watch what I say after reading about the tragic death of Trevor Smith, and about how much people's posts pushed him farther into depression. I guess we have different definitions of what the game is and whos playing. My point was that people who are still in the game hardcore don't buy this product--that's an assumption, but I'd ask you how interested you were in buying something like the product at hand when you were dealing. I know how much time I spent thinking about this stuff when I was active, and my experience is similar to almost everyone I associate with. Especially if you're speaking truth about your past, you should be offended at the marketing, its exploitative and it targets kids, but whatever, enough of this. I shouldn't have assumed anything about you, you're right, I wouldn't want that in return. Good luck with your music career. Peace, everyone. |
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Originally posted by Michael D Even Gopro want call it "Gangsta test". Gotta say G test! |
| What I DO know for a fact is that the owner is not really trying to "target" any particular market with the name. |
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Originally posted by brodus I was going to leave this thread and let it go, but dude, why do have to go and say things like that?! I know you're smarter than this! No one just makes up product names for no reason. That's marketing 101. There is intentionality behind every professional decision, and I think your owner's success should show you of all people that his marketing expertise is top notch and he really knows what he's doing. This further supports my point. No one who builds a supp. company from nothing to one that can easily sell products for twice other companies prices chooses product names arbitrarily. Does Methyl 5AA work, yes. Does it promote dry, lean gains and precontest hardening, yes. Can I buy it for $3 a gram retail? Yes, and so can everyone else. There is a reason why it's named what it is, and VPX knows that a name and flashy label helps sell a $3 product* for $60 to a specific market segment with a specific amount of expendable income, and as you can see from posters here, it's not us. It's called strategic marketing. Please don't insult us by pretending the name was chosen arbitrarily. (There are a few VPX products I will likely use in the future, and I know the quality control and everything is top notch, so I'm only specifically referring to this product, but in terms of marketing, my statements should be apparent to anyone who's even had one business class. I have no bone to pick, I am just concerned that the truth is told in public forums) *Actually, with less than one gram (720 mg) of Methly 5AA in the product at hand, you have less than $2.75 in active ingredients, and thats at retail prices and not even retail bulk prices. If you know anything about the science behind methylation, you know Methyls don't need a "liposomal" delivery method (or any special delivery method) to bypass liver degradation and rapidly disperse in the bloodstream, so we're truly talking about less than $3 of actives. Hence my claims of extreme overpricing, and further the importance of strategic marketing. This may be one of the best examples ever of this, which is why I'm not letting go. |
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Originally posted by IronSlingah LMFAO@ "GANGSTA TEST" i thought it was a joke untill i saw it in real life LOLOLOLOL!! i might buy some to show it to my gym buddies. |
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Originally posted by Budz08 it's not going to stop me from trying it or anything but what's the taste like? does it burn the back of your throat a bit like vpx m1-t? more like irratate than burn i guess. |
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Originally posted by Budz08 i'm gonna give it a shot afer my m1-t 4-ad cycle...after the 2 week pct of course...i just hope that all that ur saying is true gopro |
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Originally posted by gopro several people I know (a few work at VPX and a few don't) are using G-test and they are getting harder, more vascular, and stronger by the day. In fact, I think that people like this stuff better than M 1-T or Mad 250. |
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Originally posted by Testosterone You didn't mention they gain 20 Lbs of PURE TWISTED STEEL per month
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Originally posted by titans1854 does 5aa and 3aa pretty much have just as bad side effects as other PH's? |
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Originally posted by Sir Foxx 3 Reasons not to buy this product: 1: It's marketed to teens. No matter what you believe or your company owner says(obviously lying comes very easy to him), that is the targeted audience with this assinine name. 2: It has a propianate ester on it. Stupid, stupid, stupid. M5aa is best as a pre workout intensifier, so what does VPX do, put this 3 day ester on it. Why? I want an immediate effect off of it, not 3 days later. On top of that if I start to see some sides(M5aa has sides written all over it) from this that I don't want, I have to wait a minimum of 3 days for this to be out of my system. Real Smart. 3: Don't support a company that tried to pass the lie of their polylipid delivery system being somehow safer when using 17aa tech. This is how people get hurt. It was blatant and sleazy. |
| #2: If the ester means nothing orally, then why add it the first place. You can get the same hardening effects without the ester. Something has been added with no useful effect or reasoning. |
| People are using to get a similar effect to something like Masteron PROPRIONATE |
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Originally posted by brodus I think GoPro gave a very good reason for why they added the ester: So it's added to give the impression that is similar to Masteron...and possibly to cloud the fact that pure Methyl 5AA can be purchased fro $3 a gram retail, and there's less than a gram in the $60 bottle they sell. Of course, the target audience knows no better, and when they read "propinate," they think "Wow--just like the injectable stuff!" And lastly, it should be apparent to everyone that VPX is successful PRECISELY BECAUSE of their marketing savvy. They consistently sell $3 products for $60, and it's no accident, and not because they have access to chemicals no one else does. To pretend that there is no intentionality behind product names and marketing is truly naive. All I am doing is holding up a mirror. All I have done is descontruct what has happened. Actions speak louder than words, and my analysis is no different than what you would find in a college marketing or chemistry classroom. |
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Originally posted by Sir Foxx My name is the same as it has always been here and on any board. Your excuses: #1: That's the best you could come up with? #2: If the ester means nothing orally, then why add it the first place. You can get the same hardening effects without the ester. Something has been added with no useful effect or reasoning. #3: There is no explanation other than greed and lack of concern for VPX customers who might not know any better. |
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Originally posted by Sir Foxx It's a friendly debate, I assure you Babsie. I just like breaking VPX reps balls every now and then. |