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Post workout Insulin spike question?


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Posted by: once was fat

I read in a magazine (YEH I KNOW) that a good post workout insulin spike would be 3 tablespoons of honey, 1 bananna, and a protein shake. Would this be a wise diet choice for an insulin spike. If so are all honey's created equal. Wich brand of honey or what type would everyone reccomend. Thanks in advance for this.



Posted by: donescobar2000

I would stick with Dextrose or Maltodextrin.



Posted by: once was fat

Quote:
Originally posted by donescobar2000
I would stick with Dextrose or Maltodextrin.
Can anyone recommend whole foods instead of supplements?



Posted by: donescobar2000

A potato and Eggwhites.



Posted by: blest

donescobar hit the nail on the head. If you want something IMMEDIATELY, maltodextrin and quality Whey



Posted by: once was fat

If going for an insulin spike is 15 minutes with in the window post workout.



Posted by: Jodi

Within 30-45 mins. PWO. And that goes for both high gi PWO meals or low gi PWO meals.



Posted by: rockcrest



i'm confused...do you want a spike PWO or No?



Posted by: once was fat

Quote:
Originally posted by Jodi
Within 30-45 mins. PWO. And that goes for both high gi PWO meals or low gi PWO meals.
Whats better high gi or low gi posworkouts. Jodi is the bannana and honey ok for the high gi pwo.



Posted by: once was fat

Quote:
Originally posted by rockcrest


i'm confused...do you want a spike PWO or No?
Yes post workout.



Posted by: Jodi

I do not find PWO spikes necessary for everyone. I DO NOT spike my insulin but I DO have my boyfriend spike his PWO. I am an endo/meso so I have no problem gaining LBM and I have no problem gain fat either So I don't find it necessary for me to spike my insulin. I use whey and oats PWO.

My boyfriend is a pure ecto so he is a hard gainer. I do have him use some sort of dextrose or Smarties candies and whey PWO.



Posted by: once was fat

Is the bannana and honey ok for pwo?



Posted by: Jodi

That's all fructose so no. Fructose will only increase liver glycogen. You want to fill muscle glycogen not just liver glycogen.



Posted by: once was fat

AHHHHHHHHHH fuck I just bought a jar of honey and some dam bannanas. Oh well. I guess I will have a baked potato then unless there is something else that would be good.



Posted by: Jodi

You can always go get a big bag of Smarties candies ot Sweet Tarts. Those are pure Dextrose/Maltodextrin.



Posted by: once was fat

Quote:
Originally posted by Jodi
You can always go get a big bag of Smarties candies ot Sweet Tarts. Those are pure Dextrose/Maltodextrin.
How many would you eat?



Posted by: Jodi

Check this out as well before deciding to spike or not to spike.

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=12&t=3235&hl=ode

Approx. 6 rolls.



Posted by: gr81

Have some cornflakes Once, those are pretty high on the GI list.



Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally posted by once was fat
Can anyone recommend whole foods instead of supplements?
a banana.



Posted by: rockcrest

PWO Spike



Posted by: once was fat

Quote:
Originally posted by Prince
a banana.
Ok now Im really confused. One says bannana but one says no bannana.



Posted by: Yanick

lol, this gets very confusing my friend. I used to be just like you once, until i realized that 90% of whats said on/about bb'ing is a theory/opinion. You have to research (the link jodi posted if fuckin awesome but can make your head hurt after a while) and weigh the pro's and con's of everything and remember that you have to decide what you do based on yourself not anybody else.



Posted by: donescobar2000

Quote:
Originally posted by once was fat
Ok now Im really confused. One says bannana but one says no bannana.

I would not go for a banana since all it will do is fill liver glycogen. Go with a potato or white rice at that.



Posted by: Yanick

what if you are bulking and your liver is already full of glycogen? I would tend to agree but for a different reason. If you are spiking insulin post w/o you want to get that blood glucose up ASAP, and fructose is not the sugar to do that (it has a lower GI because it needs to pass through the liver before getting to the blood)



Posted by: Yeah Buddy!

gatorade powder, grape juice, white rice, rice-cakes, and for the bulking people - rice crispie treats.

some people might look as rice crispie treats as being crazy, but most of the carbs in them come from high glycemic puffed rice, and not as much as you think from fructose. so for those hardgainers, or when you're on a bulk and just plain don't care, they can be a great way to spike your insulin and actually enjoy it.



Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally posted by donescobar2000
I would not go for a banana since all it will do is fill liver glycogen. Go with a potato or white rice at that.
huh?

we're talking about spiking insulin are we not?

a banana is almost pure glucose, what better way to spike insulin?



Posted by: Jodi

But for those trying to spike insulin a banana would still not be the best option.

A banana is high in fiber.

Oh and a banana is 65%glucose 45%fructose.



Posted by: donescobar2000

Quote:
Originally posted by Prince
huh?

we're talking about spiking insulin are we not?

a banana is almost pure glucose, what better way to spike insulin?
Yes we are but even if a banana is made of 65% glucose it is still not ideal for post workout.



Posted by: Premo55

Jodi, 65+45= 110%
You meathead
I'm just playing...hahah

Peace.



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by Premo55
Jodi, 65+45= 110%
You meathead
I'm just playing...hahah

Peace.
- I meant 60/40



Posted by: aztecwolf

ain't the potassium in bananas good for pwo to help with recover, i personally have a protein shake and oatmeal with a banana pwo



Posted by: Yanick

you can pretty much, within reason of course, eat anything post w/o and you'll progress if your diet for the rest of the day is in order, i honestly think that these debates are blown way out of proportion. I've seen/known people that did all types of post w/o routines, from spiking insulin to not spiking to not even eating and making gains.



Posted by: aztecwolf

true that, i also prefer to eat something wholesome after a good hard workout, i mean it seems odd to work out then take in a bunch of simple sugar when you have something healthy




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