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Posted by: Jill

I had chocolate instead so much for the "no" sugar!! I REALLy am planning on being good, starting tomorrow, after I see the trainers. I want them to kick my ass tonight! I just feel unmotivated today. I have no lunch here at work....

BTW I found my dream home that I wanna build!!!! We are just waiting to see what lots are available, and when they will be realased! Steve has yet to see the house !



Posted by: greekblondechic

I think it's ok to have chocolate everyone once in a while IF you don't binge on it. Every time I have a little bit of a no no food and I don't binge I get all happy and proud of myself



Posted by: naturaltan

tomorrow never comes Miss Jill I guess losing weight is like trying to do anything ... you have to want it. Maybe you're not ready ... don't know. I know the missus was like you ... start/stop ... go for a week, jump off the wagon. It seems that now she's ready to really get after it. She's been doing pretty good with the gym and her eating has really changed. From what she tells Donna and I, her meals are going very well. Like I said before, maybe having to answer to someone about your cheats will help. The missus looked at it from this view point, if I'm paying XX amount of $ to have someone create a meal plan, I best stick to it and be honest when I don't follow it otherwise I'm just wasting money ... and we don't have money to waste.

I'm almost as excited as you are about tonight. Hopefully she will be able to motivate you and guide you in the direction you want to go.



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
I feel better Stacey, I didnt have any coffee at all
Hi Jill !

What kind of coffee were you drinking ?



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by naturaltan
tomorrow never comes Miss Jill I guess losing weight is like trying to do anything ... you have to want it. Maybe you're not ready ... don't know. I know the missus was like you ... start/stop ... go for a week, jump off the wagon. It seems that now she's ready to really get after it. She's been doing pretty good with the gym and her eating has really changed. From what she tells Donna and I, her meals are going very well. Like I said before, maybe having to answer to someone about your cheats will help. The missus looked at it from this view point, if I'm paying XX amount of $ to have someone create a meal plan, I best stick to it and be honest when I don't follow it otherwise I'm just wasting money ... and we don't have money to waste.

I'm almost as excited as you are about tonight. Hopefully she will be able to motivate you and guide you in the direction you want to go.
Me and the misses sound somewhat similar! I really hope you are right NT-how are the misses results coming along? You are smart NT!! Nice day out eh? Im off work at 3, and am going to run / walk the stairs at fox drive, havent done them in a year, Im exicted!!!

Gary-it was plain ol coffee, im almost positive it was the sweet n low that did it.



Posted by: gwcaton

Do you have to have sweetner in your coffee ? Have you tried like a french vanilla coffee or hazelnut ? Maybe you wou would like the taste even without sweetner. I drink mine black.



Posted by: Jill

I used to always use those sweetners last year, i got away from them cause of the sugar and carbs....



Posted by: naturaltan

She's lost about 2lbs ... but Donna expects her to start losing 1-2lbs a week. She said it might take a week or so of proper eating to get her metabolism going. She is also lifting really good, so her decline in weight not be as fast as she would expect. Donna suggested that some come looking to just loose weight and don't really exercise that often. The missus has been going really hard at it for probably a good month now.

On the coffee subject ... the missus used to take a lot of sugar in her coffee. Now she uses just on packet of .... ummmm, forgot, maybe it's sweet/low. Not sure, but it's a heck of a lot less than what she used to take.



Posted by: atherjen

Let us know how it goes with those trainers today Jillybean!!! Good lUck!!!

any chance we could see a pic or layout of your dream home??



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by atherjen


any chance we could see a pic or layout of your dream home??
I took aome pics of it was night but the lense was dirty on my camera, so the pics are blurry. Im gonna re-take them, the show home in down the street from my house now!



Posted by: Jill

This is the other one I want, the 2 are very similar, Im undecided.

http://www.challengerhomes.com/edmon...mes.asp?SHid=4



Posted by: atherjen

they didnt work for me?



Posted by: Jill

Try now, the seem to be working for me!



Posted by: atherjen

nope!



Posted by: Jill

Stupid internet. It doesnt work for me now either!!

Go to this website http://www.challengerhomes.com choose the area either lewis estates or foxboro, then click on 'see the show home', scroll over the little thumbnail pics to see the little pics, and do the virtual tour. I hope it works!



Posted by: atherjen

hey hey it worked! thats real cool!
I was checking out the LewisEstates one! pricyy eh
pretty darn nice though!!



Posted by: JLB001

Very Pretty! I like the tub!



Posted by: Jill

I live in Lewis right now AJ, pricy, ya i know!!



Posted by: naturaltan

that about 200,000 more than I want to spend on a house

very nice though. I think we've walked through that one and the missus last year would have said, it's ok ... a bit small. Now she might actually say this is about right. Then I'd say, about right, how much room do 3 people need. You need a kitchen, livingroom and 2 bedrooms.



Posted by: Jill

We only have 2 people-the house in total is around 2000sq feet, we would have a finished basement, and 2 extra rooms! Bigger the house, more to clean!!

Nt, is Donnas house hard to find? Yellowhead then exit on vic trail the quickest way for me you think?



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by naturaltan
that about 200,000 more than I want to spend on a house
No doubt!



Posted by: naturaltan

it's wasn't hard to find ... that sounds about right.

2000 for two people Wow ... what would you do with all that space and all those rooms.



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by naturaltan


2000 for two people Wow ... what would you do with all that space and all those rooms.




Posted by: naturaltan

expensive playhouse.



Posted by: Jill

1 and 1/2 hours.....

Nt you are silly...



Posted by: greekblondechic

NICE HOUSES!!!!!



Posted by: Stacey

NICE HOUSE JILL!!!

Its so weird looking at your model homes, compared to ours here in Texas!! The layouts and Everything are Completely different!!!

VERY Nice though!! I love all the wood floors!!!

I need to post a pic of my new home for ya. It is 1800+ Sq. feet..
Just looks way different then those. Guess b/c we don't have basements here!



Posted by: Jill

Post a pic Stacey. We have 2 story houses too!



Posted by: Stacey

I'm gonna look for it in my old "staying lean" Journals!! They are on here somewhere..hehehe!!

Good Luck tonight!! Can't wait to here all about it tomorrow!



Posted by: Jill

Getting ready to go see the trainers, yipeeeeee!



Posted by: atherjen

I wanna see the pic too!

Good Luck Jillybean!!!!



Posted by: Jill

Thanks AJ! I feel sore already, my workout was short but it was tough!

I did 7 flights of 240 stairs. I cant jog up all 240, maybe 3/4, and by the time you get to the top you are literally GASPING for air. I also did a mini hill 2 X. I go up the stairs several diff ways, sideways, 2 or 3 at a time-3 is like a huge lunge. Jog 10, walk 10, just try to switch it up. Last year I was doing 10-11X 240 stairs, I didnt want to kill myself today, tomorrow we'll see how I feel, Im sure I will be sore!



Posted by: atherjen

DANG Im tired just reading all that!! fun fun!!! sounds ruff!
I cant wait to start sprinting again once the weather gets better!



Posted by: greekblondechic

cant..breathe... oh oops that wasnt my workout it was yours hehe

what did the trainers say missy we wanna know!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Jill

It was great to meet with the trainers! The had a binder, with atleast 100 pics of people they have transformed-there were even pics of a guy they trained who is now the 'muscletech' model!!!! They deff know there stuff.

My bf was high-21.7%, they measured my wrist, and put this thingie around my arm, I dont know how accurate this is. They said the average active female is 20-25% bf.

They mainly stressed the importance of diet. All the people in their binder changed NOTHING except their diets, their training stayed the same.

They set me up on a meal plan, staring at 2100 cals, it seems pretty high, but Im gonna give it a go. (They are aiming for 2lb a weeks fat loss) Quite a few diff foods to choose from, I can even have skim milk and some diff cereals! (fairly small portions though) They are about counting cals, and not so much carbs and proteins, which I am used to-fats are to be kept to a very min.

Cardio and weights are important as well. The more cardio the better-even if its just a simple walk, that is cardio. My tool that they use to monitor their/my progress is the scale. I should be weighing in daily. You wanna know something else they told me? The average GIFTED women can only put on approx 6lbs of muscle a year, which in turn is 1/2lb a month.

Im excited yet scared to do this. The rigid-ness military style is going to be a lot of work. I want this to work mentally. I dont want to get stressed emotionally, and binge. Im gonna give it a try.



Posted by: Jill

Anybodys input is greatly appreciated.



Posted by: naturaltan

nice work Jill Brings me back to the ole boxing days.



Posted by: sara

Sounds great Jill! When you going to start the new plan?



Posted by: naturaltan

ummm ... something you wrote Miss Jill
AND DIDNT CHEAT ONCE! Serioulsy, I was like, how the heck did you do that? She said she'd only be cheating herself, very true.



Posted by: naturaltan

so ... how do you really feel about what you're about to embark on?



Posted by: Jill

I u NT! I know Ill only be cheating myself. I have to give it a try, they know their stuff inside out.

I plan to start tomorrow.



Posted by: naturaltan

and I have to stress ... if the missus can go all out, I know you can. I'll be watching you Miss Jill.



Posted by: naturaltan

and didn't you think the food choices were pretty varied?



Posted by: Jill

Thanks NT-the choices are pretty easy to follow-but 1-2 meals is 8oz chix!



Posted by: greekblondechic

Jilly can we have more diet info please?

2100 WOW that does seem like a lot!!!! but 21.7% BF is not high!!! I wish I was that low!



Posted by: aggies1ut

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
It was great to meet with the trainers! The had a binder, with atleast 100 pics of people they have transformed-there were even pics of a guy they trained who is now the 'muscletech' model!!!! They deff know there stuff.

My bf was high-21.7%, they measured my wrist, and put this thingie around my arm, I dont know how accurate this is. They said the average active female is 20-25% bf.

They mainly stressed the importance of diet. All the people in their binder changed NOTHING except their diets, their training stayed the same.

They set me up on a meal plan, staring at 2100 cals, it seems pretty high, but Im gonna give it a go. (They are aiming for 2lb a weeks fat loss) Quite a few diff foods to choose from, I can even have skim milk and some diff cereals! (fairly small portions though) They are about counting cals, and not so much carbs and proteins, which I am used to-fats are to be kept to a very min.

Cardio and weights are important as well. The more cardio the better-even if its just a simple walk, that is cardio. My tool that they use to monitor their/my progress is the scale. I should be weighing in daily. You wanna know something else they told me? The average GIFTED women can only put on approx 6lbs of muscle a year, which in turn is 1/2lb a month.

Im excited yet scared to do this. The rigid-ness military style is going to be a lot of work. I want this to work mentally. I dont want to get stressed emotionally, and binge. Im gonna give it a try.
Trainers didn't use a 7 site caliper method? Hmm, wonder how accurate they are...



Posted by: Jill

Greeky-you are way lower than that, Ive seen your pics!

Aggies-never had my bf tested ever, I dont know how accurate the reading is either?



Posted by: greekblondechic

AM NOT!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Jill

Greeky I'll be postin my diet starting tomorrow. I can scan it then send it to you if you want ?



Posted by: greekblondechic

YES please! TY darling

and thrown in for good measure: hehehe



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by greekblondechic
AM NOT!!!!!!!!
Have you seen my ass lately?????? Watch out, wide load comin through!! I tried on some new jeans the other day, and the 3 way mirrors almost killed me. I was like "holy my ass got big!" Needless to say I didnt buy the jeans. Jean shopping is like bathing suit shopping, hell!



Posted by: sara

I can't wait to see the diet ratio that they made up for you



Posted by: Jill

Sara, 55% is coming from protein, fats
45% carbs. No added fats, just whats in the lean proteins.



Posted by: Jill

Greeky, pm your email addy and Ill send you my diet.



Posted by: sara

Jill, I'm no expert on diets like others here.. but isn't a low fat diet is not good?



Posted by: Jill

I believe in them here is their link.

http://www.albertabodybuilding.com/home.htm

Click on the icon to the right, "Brian and Donnas 16 week program" , in red and white. Check out the testimonials.



Posted by: sara

I like their advanced training.. but isn't 7 sets is too much?



Posted by: atherjen

Thats great to hear that you are SO motivated by them hun!!! Im glad that they could help! and SEE your not fat!!!! I know I know skinny lil "fat" girls with 30%+bf!!!
your going to do awesome hun!!



Posted by: ncgirl21

Jill- your gonna do great sweetie!! We'll all be cheering you on!



Posted by: Stacey

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
Thanks AJ! I feel sore already, my workout was short but it was tough!

I did 7 flights of 240 stairs. I cant jog up all 240, maybe 3/4, and by the time you get to the top you are literally GASPING for air. I also did a mini hill 2 X. I go up the stairs several diff ways, sideways, 2 or 3 at a time-3 is like a huge lunge. Jog 10, walk 10, just try to switch it up. Last year I was doing 10-11X 240 stairs, I didnt want to kill myself today, tomorrow we'll see how I feel, Im sure I will be sore!
HOLY COW~ AWESOME AWESOME WORKOUT GIRL!!!!!! You Kicked some major bootie!!!!!!!



Posted by: Jill

Thansk AJ and Andrea!

Sara, Im not following their weight training program, Im sticking to what Ive been doing, simply cause its been working

BTW I can hardly walk today-my caves have never been this sore from those friggin stairs. Cardio is gonna be tough!



Posted by: Stacey

WOW I bet you are very sore...Ya know, I just may go run the stairs tomorrow---thanks to you motivating me!

Sounds like it went really well with the trainers. Sounds like they totally know their stuff. I am very interested in this diet!!! I think you will do wonderful Jill!!! We will all be here for you when it gets hard!!

Good Luck, You can do it!!



Posted by: Fitgirl70

Wow Jill.....good luck sweetie pie. I'll be following along too.

You're going to do great...

[remember when you made that "note to self"? Try to be more dedicated like fitgirl?]

Now I have to work extra hard just to stay up with you!!!!



Posted by: Jill

Skim milk, yum!! Everyone always says "no milk", they think it is fine for now. I really am excited and motivated. I'm not gonna cheat<---- SOMEONE REMEMBER THAT!!!!! Seriously, I will only be cheating myself. Im not even stressed about doing this "diet", even though I said a while ago that I have banished the word....

Toady is beauty-ful outside, nice n sunny!! Im gettin ready to go to the gym, and Steve is getting my "nice" rims put on my car, yipeeeeeeeeeee! I also have to go to the dentist, not a big deal, its better than work! I might tan and go look at showhomes tonight. Goin to the gym all, have a super one!! (walking like an idiot cause Im so sore)



Posted by: naturaltan

Stacey ... I don't know that I'd call it a diet persay. If Jill posts her meals, you'll see it's really a diet, more just a healthy way of eating.



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by Fitgirl70

[remember when you made that "note to self"? Try to be more dedicated like fitgirl?]

Now I have to work extra hard just to stay up with you!!!!
Just stay on my back like you are with Greeky!!! Thanks for reminding me, dedication is deff needed. It really does mean a lot to have you support. You are doing super!



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by naturaltan
Stacey ... I don't know that I'd call it a diet persay. If Jill posts her meals, you'll see it's really a diet, more just a healthy way of eating.
I can even have air popped popcorn and corn and peas and carrots and some cereals! Thats no diet to me!



Posted by: naturaltan

Jill ... you sound so ready to do this! If you have a hard day, please come back and read this your post #264 on page 9!!

Kick some a$$ now lady



Posted by: Fitgirl70

Awww Jilly bean.....I'm here to support you honey!! YOu know that....

Now go tell that fat to

and don't worry....I'll keep on your



Posted by: Jill

Note to self:

post #264 on page 9



Posted by: Stacey

Thats what I do--- eat healthy for life--not diet!! I think you will do wonderful Jill!



Posted by: greekblondechic

Woohoo Jilly! I'm happy for you sweetie! thats cool that Fitgirl is gonna be on my twin's ass as well!



Posted by: Sapphire

Hi Jillybean!

Sounds like you had a great consultation with your trainer!! I am definitely interested in seeing your diet! Good luck you gorgeous woman you!!





Posted by: Fitgirl70

I think me, greeky and jill need to start a little competition journal for the three of us.....hmmmm

<<and the wheels are turning>>>



Posted by: jstar

Wow Jill, you are like a new woman! I am so excited for you. This nutrition plan (noticed I didn't use the "d" word) sounds like it will be really good for you - higher carbs, lower fat and moer food options. You are not bad at all at 21.7%, you are well on your way girly! I am so proud of you!

So how often are you gonna meet Donna? Why does she want you to weigh in daily? I am not following that reasoning because I know the scale is EVIL.



Posted by: JLB001

Jillie! You should do awesome with this new plan! Can't wait to follow along.



Posted by: Jill

J-star dispite what everyone here says the scale I now believe is good. That is the way the trainers will track my progess. A very gifted women will gain only 1/2 pound a muscle a month. So when people say, 'oh your weights going up, its probably just muscle, ' its probably REALLY just fat. If I continue on their program I will be communicating with them through e-mail. Daily weigh ins I dont believe are necessary-only every 2-3 days.



Posted by: Jill

Jodie-do you think 2100 cals is high??? Its all clean food though.



Posted by: JLB001

I would say try it and see how you do. Give it a few weeks, if you see no changes, then contact your advisor and let them know your concerns. It can always be modified, but don't do that without talking with Donna first.



Posted by: JLB001

My trainer does track my bodyfat every two weeks, so I kinda find it hard to believe that on average you can only gain 1/2 pound of muscle per month. but that is just my opinion. I've been using the same person for two years, and know I have gained more than 1/2 pound per month. I think alot has to do with diet and how a person trains.



Posted by: atherjen

JIllybean your new attitude rocks!!! I have no doubt that you will reach your goals! it sounds like you defintly have a great handle on things with the trainers helping you closely like that.
2100cals isnt that much hun, stick with it until it doesnt work and like Jodie said dont you change anything until you consult with your trainers!
life's about being happy, and thats what you deserve, no stressful diets n stuff!

hows the weather out west??
still anyword on Mexico?



Posted by: Jill

Hey girls

Jodie-I believe everybodies bodys are diff too-thats the one thing about the trainers, even my girlfriend said, they are bery set in their ways. 2100 cals is alot-1 meal had 8oz of chix, I only had 7....8 was way too much!!

Thanks for your support AJ and Jodie, it really means alot. No word on mexico-If we decide 4 sure to build this new house I doubt I will go on a trip. Im cleaning house today and my calves are soooooo sore, i've went up and down the stairs atleast 20x. Im almost in tears each time-I take 1 stair at a time like a little kid would!



Posted by: Jodi

Good luck with your new plan Jill. I'm happy to see some new motivation in you.

I do agree with Jodie though on the muscle gain as I too have gained more than 1/2lb a month.

I do have 1 question though, is there a reason they don't have any EFA's in your diet?



Posted by: greekblondechic

Yay Jilly is out to play!!!!!!!



Posted by: Jill

Im supposed to be cleaning the bathrooms Greeky!

Jodi-I am excited and motivated, I just have to stick to this to see results. I think they are really against added fats. I'll find out. Lucky me-my gf was on the same plan as me last year, so Ill just ask her. She lost A LOT of pounds on this same type of plan.



Posted by: greekblondechic

I wish there was a machine u could hook up to your body and it tells you EXACTLY what YOU need to do to lose fat! Also a built in calorie counter for what you ate that day, and also for stuff you are thinking about eating LOL



Posted by: sara

greeky, I'm pretty sure they will invent something similar soon



Posted by: Jill

Is it just me or does 8oz of meat/protein at a meal seem like a lot?



Posted by: JLB001

It's alot. Usually more than one chicken boobie. Craig eats 8oz.



Posted by: sara

Jill- the protein in you'r new diet is not balanced in every meal.. in one meal you would have over 30 grams of protein and the other meal you would have less than 20.. is this how they planned it out for you?



Posted by: sara

where you get the diet yogurt? is it just a low fat yogurt?
How much 2 oz. oats? is it 2/3 cup?



Posted by: Jill

The plan is not balanced, I dont ever think i said that, but I know it isnt. Im supposed to be at about a 40/60 split, but some meals being so high in protein Im probably more like 50/50. I dont know how they come up with the numbers. Safeway makes 'diet' yogurt, sweetened with aspertame. It is sooooooo yummy. 2oz oats is about 1/2 cup Sara.



Posted by: sara

It's about calories and daily total, not freaking out on each meal need to have certain amount of protein.. like now you can have just an apple and some cheese or PB in one meal

the yogurt is sugar free ? just made with aspertame? what's the name of the yogurt?



Posted by: sara

Jill- are you counting the protein/fat/carb ratio in each meal? or just the daily total?



Posted by: JLB001

Jillie...your not suppose to be counting. stop trying to figure out the numbers. Just try it and see how you do. Then, if it does not work, have Donna modify it for you. please........



Posted by: Jill

Sara, I think the plan is more like 3 Bigger meals, and 3 snacks. Im just couting cals, the have a pre-made list of foods / portions with the cals next to them. I am just counting calories in each meal-kinda annoying.

The yogurt is "safeway" brand, made by lucerne. It has carbs and protein, no fat or sugar. Sweetened with aspertame.



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
Jillie...your not suppose to be counting. stop trying to figure out the numbers. Just try it and see how you do. Then, if it does not work, have Donna modify it for you. please........
Im already sorta modifying it. I just cant see paying some one $65 to say, ya you can drop an oz of meat in meal 4-I can only eat so much. I will be talking to my gf who did the same sort of plan, and get her opinion.



Posted by: sara

do you count the calories from veggies?

I'll have to look for this yogurt



Posted by: JLB001

Jillie....do not modify that diet. You paid someone to prepare it for you. TRY IT as it is! I mean if you wanted to do it on your own, you would not have seeked out someone else's help and forked over the $$ to do so. I mean it's your money....I'm sure they will be more than happy to take it from you, but your not gonna see the results you want by always jacking with it. LEAVE IT ALONE!



Posted by: JLB001





Posted by: sara

Jill- JLB is right, wait for at least 3 weeks and see how you'r body reacts to it



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by sara
do you count the calories from veggies?

I'll have to look for this yogurt
I am counting veggie cals



Posted by: JLB001

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
Im already sorta modifying it. I just cant see paying some one $65 to say, ya you can drop an oz of meat in meal 4-I can only eat so much. I will be talking to my gf who did the same sort of plan, and get her opinion.

You went to them for a reason......now let them work for you! That is why you are paying them. please.....



Posted by: Jill

Yes Jodie



Posted by: Jill

But i just cant eat 8oz of chicken, seriously I wanna puke.



Posted by: sara

then, eat less in you'r snack meal



Posted by: sara

8 oz. cooked chicken = 64 grams protein!!!



Posted by: Jill

I know!



Posted by: atherjen

DANG your right Jillybean that is A LOT of protein for one feeding! hmmm I wonder if you could just move a lil of it into one of your snacks. still keep it in there but just at a diff time?



Posted by: Jill

Ill ask my gf what she thinks.



Posted by: Jill

Today is 'cute boy day' at my work. Have seen 3 so far!!



Posted by: JLB001

Try like Jen has suggeseted, move some of it over with your snack. I could easily eat 8oz of meat in one sitting. I'm not meaning to sound harsh or mean, just want to see it work is all and to do so, ya gotta give it a chance.



Posted by: Jill

But dont you think 2100 cals is a lot in order to lose weight Jodie???(just wondering) Didnt you say you eat like 1100?



Posted by: jstar

Hi Jill!

Jodie is right do not modify the plan. What I would do is call them and ask if you can eat the rest of the protein in one of your smaller meals until you are ready to eat 8 oz at once. Keep the portion sizes to what they said - no more and no less. If you eat less you just end up hungrier and it will backfire. I am just speaking from experience.

You are doing great so far hun, I have NO DOUBT you can do this!!!!

PS -Is that sf yogurt only available in Canada? We don't have Safeays here and I have never heard of lecerne. (can you send me some )



Posted by: Jodi

I don't think 2100 cals is too much for you Jill. Of course though I think it could have been portioned out differently.

If this bothers you why don't you call them. You're paying them so you have every right to question your diet with them. Don't just start messing around with it. That is when thing DON'T work.



Posted by: JLB001

Jillie...You have to keep in mind I am on a cutting diet, getting ready for a bbing show. To me, that is a whole different ballpark than trying to loose weight for the summer. I may be eatting that low, but once I stop that diet...I gain weight back. Your trying to find what works to help you loose and stay at that weight. I could easily eat that amount of food on the diet they have provided for you and them some.

If your having concerns about the amount of protein, call them and tell them your concerns, it part of what y ou are paying them for. Have them adjust it for you, but you shouldn't adjust it yourself. If I have concerns about my diet, Jon is programmed in my cell, I call. He is there to work for me for what I am paying him for.

I'm sorry, this is just a subject that kinda irks me. Be the type of client that trainers love...do as they say and the results will come!
Don't go to them with something in mind, then complain about what they say to do without even giving it an honest effort. Voice your concerns to them, so they know what your true concerns are. Jillie...I believe you can truly do this if you give it a chance...Please Call Donna and let her know your concerns about the amounts of proteins. I'm sure they would happily adjust it for you.



Posted by: JLB001

Jstar...Dannon has a sf yogurt. Do ya'll have a Super Walmart close to you? That is where we had gotten it before.



Posted by: Jill

Heres what my meals look like. You can substitue with another protein, veggie, starch etc.. the cals must say the same.

Snack:
½ cup diet yogurt 75
1 cup strawberries or ½ cup blueberries or 5oz carrots 50
=125
Snack:
2 slices bread or 1 tortilla or 1 pits or ¾ cup rice 163
5oz chicken or 5.5 oz turkey breast 245
2 tsp ultra light mayo or 4oz carrots 40
=448

OR: 2scoops Whey 234
1 ½ cup skim milk 135
1 cup blueberries 82
=451

Snack:
1 oz cereal 100
½ cup skim milk 45
=145
OR: 1 cup diet yogurt
OR: 6 cups air popcorn

Meal 1:
2 oz oats, sunny boy or shredded wheat 200
½ cup skim milk 45
=245

Meal 2:
½ cup rice or 4 oz potato or 2/3 cup yam 109
8oz chicken or 8oz eye of round or 8.5oz turkey breast 392
½ cup peas or ½ cup mixed veggies or ½ cup corn 60
=561

Meal 3:
½ cup rice or 4 oz potato or 2/3 cup yam 109
8oz chicken or 8oz eye of round or 8.5oz turkey breast 392
6 oz carrots or 3 cups of salad with T ff dressing 60
=561

=2085



Posted by: greekblondechic

Hi Jilly!! Cute boy day eh??



Posted by: Jill

Jodie-I just had 6.5oz of chix with my rice and veggies and that was way too much. Im having hamburgers for din din!



Posted by: Fitgirl70

hamburgers???? Oh my gosh, I would love to have one, but I just don't think I can.

We are going to a mexican food restaurant for dinner tonight w/ my brother and sister-in-law and I'll probably have my usual fajitas, no tortillas, no quac, no sc, water to drink...


Somehow though, I always think even this is cheating. Is it?



Posted by: Jill

Fitgirl, you can eat hamburgers-just use ext lean beef, lotsa spices, egg white, oats in stead of bread crumbs. Cook on the bbq, the fat cooks off and eat with mustard and veggies and rice. (no bun or cheese of course)



Posted by: JLB001

No ice tea Fit? mmm


Jillie...you'll just have to get use to that amount of food. You're gonna feel like your eatting alot. Its because you are not use to it. When I started mine the first time, I thought I was eatting all the time and I was always full. It passes.

Hamburger....I could go to Fuddrucker's and seriously munch down on one of their 1/2 lb burgers with the bun and fries and go back for dessert.



Posted by: Jill

Even if my guts hurt Jodie?



Posted by: JLB001

You won't die. Probably the rice has ya a lil bloated.



Posted by: Jill

Majorly bloated today... Home time in less than an hour!!!!



Posted by: greekblondechic

awwwwww *huggies*



Posted by: Jill

http://www.apa.org/monitor/mar02/binge.html



Posted by: JLB001

Jillie...why not try some 5-HTP. Craig says it raises the seratonin levels, which would be the same effect people get when they eat sugary foods. So if that article is accurate, it evolves from self esteem issues or depression which can all be related to low seratonin levels.



Posted by: JLB001

http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshel...25,747,00.html



Posted by: sara

Jodi- this pill sounds great! But, what happens after you stop using it? would you go back to you'r disorder?



Posted by: greekblondechic

Great article Jilly!!! It makes me really excited that I should be starting CBT soon.. and it mentions my school!

RUTGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Jill

Thanks for the info Jodie-I havent read it all yet. Can this be bought in stores?



Posted by: Fitgirl70

Jill.....how are you this morning? What's on the agenda for the weekend?



Posted by: atherjen

I was taking 5-HTP for a while to aid in sleep and relax more.. it defintly helps!!



Posted by: JLB001

You should be able to buy it in stores. Craig said GNC sells it.
I haven't tried it, so I am not sure if the disorder would come back. I know with me, once I cut sugar out, I don't really crave it anymore.



Posted by: Jill

Hey Fitgirl-I work today then have the next 3 days off! I dont know what Im gonna do with myself-ive never had 3 days off in a row unless Im gone on holidays! Granny's tomorrow , planning to have a tiny cheat MEAL, thats all. Not a cheat day

AJ-can you buy 5-htp in stores?



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by JLB001
I know with me, once I cut sugar out, I don't really crave it anymore.
Thats what Im trying to do first. I dont want to resort to pills unless it absolutely necessary.



Posted by: Fitgirl70

I hear ya....I had a cheat meal last night, well kinda, I tried to have quesadillas, but the tortilla wasn't crispy so I picked out the chicken and steak.....I did eat some of the rice and beans though....to be honest, it wasn't really good



Posted by: atherjen

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
Hey Fitgirl-I work today then have the next 3 days off! I dont know what Im gonna do with myself-ive never had 3 days off in a row unless Im gone on holidays! Granny's tomorrow , planning to have a tiny cheat MEAL, thats all. Not a cheat day

AJ-can you buy 5-htp in stores?

LOL Im off too!!! Ive been keeping busy. this morning was awesome!! wish I could go home for Easter or see my fam!

we sell 5-HTP at work. they should have it in the one in Edmonton too. Call and see. its pretty cheap. like 15$



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by Fitgirl70
I hear ya....I had a cheat meal last night, well kinda, I tried to have quesadillas, but the tortilla wasn't crispy so I picked out the chicken and steak.....I did eat some of the rice and beans though....to be honest, it wasn't really good
You and your rice and beans!!! I never buy beans, any recommendations?



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by atherjen
LOL Im off too!!! Ive been keeping busy. this morning was awesome!! wish I could go home for Easter or see my fam!

we sell 5-HTP at work. they should have it in the one in Edmonton too. Call and see. its pretty cheap. like 15$
Ill check it out. Thanks!



Posted by: Jill

I just talked with my gf who was on the same program as me for months, and said that I can switch the protein into diff meals, as long as I get the proper ratios of protein cals and carb cals in the day!! No more 8oz of chicken at once for me!



Posted by: atherjen

awesome! I didnt think it would be too much of a prob as long as it was still the same daily totals!

how have you been doin today girl?



Posted by: Jill

Great, I like eating clean! Thanks for asking sweets!



Posted by: JLB001

Jillie! Great about being able to move things around. Should help on the feeling so bloated and full!



Posted by: Jill

My gf said the totals cals in are the main thing. Im gonna e-mail them to be 100% sure next week. This is just such a relief. Dont ya all think spliting the protein would be better anywase???????????



Posted by: atherjen

Yah I do!! it would be much more balanced throughout your meals!



Posted by: Jill

Hey peeps!

I need some advice, I think I walk like a complete idiot. Ever sice Ive been powerwalking on an incline I get these incredibly HUGE blisters on my heals. I ususallly then take a couple of days off of pw, and then when I start to pw again I just create another blister! Last night I went walking outside, 50mins, NO incline, and the blisters I have NOW are huge, and hurt like hell. I just put on 3 bandaids (on each heel) and am off to do cardio, the CT cause walking hurts! Any opinions or advice?



Posted by: greekblondechic

Do your sneakers fit right sweetie?



Posted by: Jill

Happy easter all! Someone eat some chocolate for me!!!



Posted by: Jill

Greeky, they all fit right, I think I just walk like a weirdo or something



Posted by: sara

Jill- do they allow you to eat protein bars?



Posted by: greekblondechic

I doubt it, altho you can ask a friend's opinion. Most likely it's because of the incline, and of course if you already have blisters its really easy to get more even if you are not on an incline. Try letting them heal, then walking withOUT incline to see what happens. If the blisters return, then its not the incline. But I have a feeling that it is. Let them heal completely tho!!!!



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Originally posted by sara
Jill- do they allow you to eat protein bars?
I highly doubt it. I dont eat em anywase!

Greeky-I am taking a break from the incline.



Posted by: Jodi

It's your sneakers. Just because you feel that they fit right doesn't mean they fit well enough for fast paced incline walking, running or jogging.

I've used this site in the past to find out what fits right and it. I didn't buy them there though, too expensive.

ShoeDog



Posted by: sara

Jill- My trainer told me I can eat anything I want, only need to stay with my calories .. I'm going to ask him if protein bars are ok for some snacks (SOMETIMES)



Posted by: Jill

Thanks Jodi! Having any treats today?



Posted by: Jill

Protein bars are full of crap IMO sara. Id rather eat REAL food!!

I have a GREAT game plan today people. Im going to Grannys for easter din. Im planning to have my huge p shake with berries and milk b4 I go, that way I wont be able to eat much cause I'll be too full! Smart eh?



Posted by: sara

Very smart Jill just make sure you won't eat

I know Protein bars are full of crap, but they better than eating out or eating unhealthy candy bars



Posted by: atherjen

sounds like a SUPER plan Jillybean!!! Have a great time with the family too!



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
Thanks Jodi! Having any treats today?




Posted by: jstar

Hi Jill!

Happy Easter!

Have fun at granny's!



Posted by: naturaltan

How is it working for you Jill? You'll get used to the amount of food you have to eat. Once your metabolism kicks in, all will be good.

5HTP can be bought at any health food store. The missus has some ...



Posted by: Jill

Hey Nt! Its pretty easy. I think I can actually incorperate my p pancakes! (sub list) Why do you think my cals are so high? (2100) Im at a 55/45 split. Ive also been rearanging the meals-125cals at one and 561 is messed. Im taking some of the cals from the big meal and putting them into the small meals. Try eating 400 protein cals, and Im sure you'd wanna puke too! im keeping cals the same.



Posted by: Stacey

Hey Jill!! Just caught up on your journal!! I'm glad that you can break up that protein with your meals..that was an awful lot!!

Hope you had a great Easter!!



Posted by: greekblondechic

I miss my twin! I think perhaps the high calories is good because it should prevent binges...which is way worse!

****MUAHHHHHHH**** that's not incest, is it?



Posted by: jstar

Hey Jill!

That is good they said you can split up the protein. I think by bumping up your calories to 2100 for a bit you will notice less of an urge to binge, I know I do when my calories are around maintenance

Hope your having a great day!



Posted by: Jill

Thanks J-star and Greeky!

Once again I am a failure. I dont want anybody to post and say "no Jill, you are not a failure or a quitter", cause Its true, and I accept that. I accept that my life revolves around food

Last night some deep issues from my past came up....I hadnt realized how deep I had burried these thoughts. Steves dad is a deep person, the most spirtual person one could ever meet. Talking to him is better than any shrink, for real. Ive been crying for hours off and on, and have came to relization that I have been hiding under my weight for ever. I have deep wounds from my past that need to heal-I need to get in touch with my emotions before I can get this weight thing right. I do not love myself-not enough anywase which is why I can not get this whole 'self esteem' thing right either.

My goal is to heal emotionally and mentally, rather than physically, which will come when the inside is healed. I dont expect anyone to undertand. But the outside is something that just covers up what I have been hiding inside for years. Its not about the food-I dont know why I sabotage weight loss, that is something I am trying to figure out.

Diets work-I know I can stick with the plan, Im just going to focus more on my "mental" state than anything. I can not concentrate ALL my efforts on food, counting cals etc.. when I need to heal from the inside first. The outside will then come..



Posted by: atherjen

JIllybean- you are such a smart woman-no matter what you say, I would never think you were a failure. we ALL deal with some sort of emotional imbalances and whatnot, and with a lot of ppl we try and let other things in life be more important first so we feel we can control something at least.. you are defintly on the right path sweetie, getting intouch with your inner self and what YOU truly need in life for self-peace and happiness is far more important than what we see on the outside. Your are truly a beautiful woman!!!
Im very proud of you for taking the right steps to your happiness hun-your deserve only the best!



Posted by: greekblondechic

Jilly, I love you, and I do understand. Gotta heal the inside before fixing the outside.



Posted by: Stacey

Sending Hugs your way!!!!



Posted by: sara

Jill, I didn't read everything you posted.. I just read the first paragraph saying that you are a faliure... Listen to me hon.. everyone thinks that he or she is a faliure.. but we are not.. No one is a faliure, you know why? because we keep on trying and won't give up.. I would say I'm a faliure because I binged for 3 months.. but no, I'm not a faliure and YOU are not a faliure.. just keep trying and you would be successful



Posted by: Jill

Ladies-Thanks for always being there, I know I can count on my girls!

I had a wicked back workout with Steve today. He pushes me like crazy, I am feeling it already in my lats.... . 45mins of kick ass cardio-the only thing is since Ive been doing more cardio today my knees have been acting up. Went for groceries and other house stuff-bought some 'easter' chocolate and ate it! (since I didnt have a thiing yesterday..) Wallymart was a ZOO! What was I thinking!

Steve is going to be so happy when he gets home-I made him lasagna! Its actually really healthy-ww noodles, lf cottage cheese and moza cheese, and ext lean beef! I may even have a slice tomorrow!

I feel a little bit more at peace with myself today...



Posted by: Stacey

Hey darlin' ~ your lasagna sounds YUMMY!

Sounds like u had a great workout..and I'm glad you feel a little more Peace!!

Omg.. I bet wallyworld was nuts. I ran in there on friday and it was a NIGHTMARE!! Uggg!



Posted by: Jill

Yum!



Posted by: Stacey

Oh Yum!! I could dig it to that girl!! It Looks SO Pretty though..hehehe!!



Posted by: greekblondechic

what a gorgeous stove/kitchen! Im glad ur feelin better sweetie



Posted by: Jill

Thanks! ANyone watch the swan? I luuuuuuuuvvvvvvv makeover shows!



Posted by: Stacey

I Love the Swan!! My hubbie is hogging the Big screen though--I could go in my room and watch it though! Is it on now?? crud!!



Posted by: Stacey

Jill-- Oh my gosh that Kristy girl on THE SWAN made me cry!!! She looks Soooo prettttty!!! I love her hair too!!
awwwwwww!



Posted by: JLB001

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
Yum!

...I don't get none.



Posted by: Jill

Dont worry Jodie, Ill eat a piece for ya! I like postin pics like you do, its fun! Im gonna do it more often now!

Stacey, ya Kristie looked so good on the swan. I wish I could get lipo and boobies for free! The only thing about these makeover shows is that the people have such low self esteem, the need to fix the problem inside first, IMO. The still will have crapy husbands and low paying jobs even though they have big nockers and no gut!



Posted by: greekblondechic

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
The only thing about these makeover shows is that the people have such low self esteem, the need to fix the problem inside first, IMO. The still will have crapy husbands and low paying jobs even though they have big nockers and no gut!
AMEN!



Posted by: Jill

Greeky-did you check out that site yet?



Posted by: Stacey

Jill I was thinking the same thing when watching the show. They may be pretty on the outsides now..but too me the hardest thing ever is believing in yourself and taking care of the insides!!!

I know..I wish someone had paid for my boobs..lol!!



Posted by: greekblondechic

Yea but I had to register then wait til they activate my account I think I remember that diet.. I thought it was pretty crazy..



Posted by: Jill

I think it would be very easy to follow Greeky.



Posted by: atherjen

LOVE the stove!!!!!!!!!! damn you must have a real nice kitchen!!!
I love pics too-I just started to post more

that lasagna looks good! eat some for me!!



Posted by: naturaltan

Quote:
Originally posted by Stacey
I know..I wish someone had paid for my boobs..lol!!
I wish someone would pay for the missus additions ... that would be great downpayment for a serious hottub.



Posted by: naturaltan

Jill ... are you not following Donna's program now that you've decided to go internal first?



Posted by: Jill

Nt-Im not My insides are what Im really focusing on right now. That was the biggest thing that I had to fifure out-healing from within. Unfortunately weight loss will come next. Im not gonna stop training or sit on the couch all day and eat crap all day, Im still pretty much on track. Ill still post my meals Im thinking. Thanks for your concern.



Posted by: naturaltan

well my dear, you do what you think is best.



Posted by: Stacey

Quote:
Originally posted by naturaltan
I wish someone would pay for the missus additions ... that would be great downpayment for a serious hottub.
No Kidding Nt!!!

HI JILL!!



Posted by: Jill

Heres me and my cousins boy on easter!



Posted by: naturaltan

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Posted by: naturaltan

btw ... you look great!



Posted by: Jill

Thanks Nt!

Have you looked outside lately?? SNOW! This weather is sickening!

Oh ya, hear about the drug bust in MY neighbourhood? Real classy. Almost as bad as all the shootings in your neck of the woods!



Posted by: atherjen

AWWWWWWWW Jillybean you are SOOO pretty!!!


HA! we had snow last week too! Canada SUCKS!!



Posted by: Jill

Thanks AJ, except my eyes are almost closed!

Atleast the snow is pretty much melting as it hits the ground.




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