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Top 10 Centers in NBA History

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Posted by: camarosuper6

OK.....



Anyone who loves basketball I am going to be posting a new catagory from the NBA each week. It could be anything from best passers, to biggest busts, to worst salaries to pretty much anything imaginable.

But, me being a big BIG MAN fan, I will start this honorary edition with the

Top 10 Centers EVER and a few comments why..



My Top 10 Centers.... starting with number 10


10. Robert Parish- Super consistent, hard nosed, work horse type player who won championships, played smart, and could keep up with the younger boys even into his forties. The fact he played nearly as long as Ive been alive gets him number 10 on my list.

9. Patrick Ewing- think a championship makes you a winner? Not in Ewing's case. Probably the best jump shooting center ever, had a dominant college career and took no time brining his skills to the pro level where he was one of the most dominant big men of his era. Great defensive intimidator on Defense, and smooth and powerful on offense, he was a rare combination of a silky jump shot that probably no center ever had, and a huge defensive ability to block shots and rebound like few others in his day. Number 9 on my list.

8. Bill Walton- Though his career was cut short by injuries, he was a superb passer with an uncanny ability to win. His UCLA days are those of legend, and before his injury he was one of the great centers of his day, using his excellent scoring and passing ability to win a championship in Portland. Later on he became much more of a role player, still helping Boston to win a few titles in the 1980's. He played neck and neck with Kareem and proved he was in a league with the big boys. Number 8 on my list.

7. David Robinson- Although many called him soft and aloof, there was no center in history with Robinsons pure athletic ability and speed. A former gymnast, in his prime he was faster than many guards, was quicker than any forward, and had more versatile than any center in his day. A former Defensive player of the year, and league MVP, Robinsons rare abilities and athleticism are sometimes overlooked, but Robinson finally quieted the critics winning two championships in his later years, and retiring in 2003. Number 7 on my list.

6. Moses Malone- a super powerful center, and one of the greatest rebounders ever, Moses Malone won 2 championships in the early 80's and is a League and Finals MVP. Malone was the Shaq of his era, beating up opponents with quick and powerful moves to the basket and being a pure intimidator on defense, Malone was the Shaq of the league, before Shaq arrived. Number 6 on my list.

5. Shaq Oneal- Without question the most powerful, intimidating, and nearly unstoppable Center in league history. His size, strength and power are unmatched in basketball. No one has ever seen someone weighing over 350 lbs move like Shaq does, dunking on people, intimidating anyone coming into his path. During the 2000-2002 seasons, no center did more and was more unstoppable than Shaquille, who demolished near every center that got in his path. Number 5 on my list.

4. Hakeem Olajuwan- If Robinson was the most athletic, Olajuwan has the best moves and footwork of any player next to Michael Jordan. His absolutely amazing array of moves befuddled even the best of centers (just ask Robinson and Shaq). His ability to step up in the clutch and utterly dominate even the greatest players in unparalleled by almost any player in NBA history. Add this to his uncanny defensive ability (all time block shots leader), he was Mr. Clutch for many years in Houston, and he won NBA championships with medicore teams. He was amazing to watch. Number 4 on my list.

3. Bill Russell- Played head to head with Wilt Chamberlain and still ended up winning 10 rings. The greatest defensive player of his era and maybe ever, no center did more for their team than Bill Russell. Russell rebounded and blocked shots like few centers ever, even going head to head with Wilt on a yearly basis. He passed, he scored when needed and nobody could get through him. He was the backbone of the greatest team in NBA history, and that alone makes him number 3.

2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar- This man broke record after record. He has the most unstoppable shot ever, and won NBA ring after NBA ring. He went head to head with Wilt, to Moses, to Olajuwan to Ewing. He lasted decade after decade, being a super smooth scorer, excellent passer, and one of the leagues finest defenders to ever grace the court. He changed the game politically and physically. There was only one center who could surpass his ability.... Number 2 on my list.

1. WILT CHAMBERLAIN... Think Kareem is Number one. No way. Kareem was awesome, but Wilt Chamberlain is the only center who could do whatever he wanted, WHENEVER he wanted. 7'1 and near 300 lbs, Wilt was a high jumper, and had a 57 inch vertical jump. He scored 40 pts, 50 pts, 60, and even 100 pts in games all the time. He blocked shots before they recorded them, he rebounded more than any one could imagine. He did anything and everything he wanted to on a basketball court. He utter dominance struck fear into opponents who triple teamed him on a regular basis. There was no one who could dominate a game like Wilt, and thats why he is Number 1.


Next....



Posted by: BigBallaGA

SHAQ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no hesitation, no comteplation

PURE AND SIMPLE

next question !



Posted by: x~factor

Just match them up one by one and no one, I mean NO ONE can stop Shaquile O'Neal.



Posted by: Ralph Wiggum

The only reason I wouldn't put Shaq number one is because of his lack of dominance. I know...I know....But hear me out. I Shaq really wanted to He could easily have a career average of 35pts, 15 reb, & 4 blks a game. It just seems like he is OK with being a Team Player(a main one at that) than being the only option on the team. Shaq should dominate the game like Wilt did. Like x~factor said, "...NO ONE can stop Shaquile O'Neal."



Posted by: gr81

Quote:
Originally posted by camarosuper6

10. Robert Parish- Don't know about that

9. Patrick Ewing- Yeah Ewing could be top ten

8. Bill Walton- No way in hell Walton is top ten, not a chance

7. David Robinson-I'd put D-Rob higher personally. I think he is top 5-6

6. Moses Malone- Hmmmm, maybe more of a top 15 center

5. Shaq Oneal- Defn a top 5, but still lacks what the all time centers like Hakeem and Jabbar have. I think he is a step away from that level

4. Hakeem Olajuwan- Hakeem, top three personally, much better player than Russell. Think about the context of who each center played against. Hakeem was much more talnted IMO

3. Bill Russell- Not a top five center, certainly not better than Robinson or Oneal

2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar- what else can you say, the most prolific scorer ever besides MJ! The hook wsa unstappable

1. WILT CHAMBERLAIN... You have to agree with this, he may have been the cockiest Bastard that walked gods green earth, but he was more dominant than even Jordan, relatively. Possibnly the most dominant athlete in any sport ever!

Next....




Posted by: Flex

I agree with the list, except for the order.

The Big Aristotle a.k.a. Wilt Chamberneezee(Shaq) is #1 bar none. Wilt #2. Russell #3. Kareem #4. Hakeem, Malone, Robinson, Ewing, Parrish and #10??

I dont even think Walton deserves to be on that list.



Posted by: gr81

sorry bro, but there ain't no way in hell shaq is the center that Wilt was, not even close!! shaq doesn't have the dominence that Wilt did. Shaq is too inconsistent nowadays. he is great, but he ain't no Wilt. I mean, Wilt is arguably the greatest player ever, I say arguable b/c Jordan was better IMO, but Shaq can't compare to either.



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally posted by gr81
sorry bro, but there ain't no way in hell shaq is the center that Wilt was, not even close!! shaq doesn't have the dominence that Wilt did. Shaq is too inconsistent nowadays. he is great, but he ain't no Wilt. I mean, Wilt is arguably the greatest player ever, I say arguable b/c Jordan was better IMO, but Shaq can't compare to either.
i have to disagree. There was ONE good center in the league, Bill Russell, when Wilt dominated, (who, by the way, used to contain Wilt every time they played.....11 championship rings).

On the other hand, Shaq has DOMINATED every good modern day center he has played against. The admiral, the dream, Ewing, Duncan (even though he's a PF), Mourning, Mutombo.......you name it, Shaq's dominated them.

and they didn't coin the term "Hack-a-Shaq" b/c they could stop him. they foul the shit outta him and force him to shoot free throws cuz that's his only weakness, and if they didn't, he'd be COMPLETELY unstoppable.

and if you wanna get really nittygritty, put Shaq vs. Wilt one-on-one, and Shaq would shut his skinny ass out, no question.



Posted by: camarosuper6

Ok... Shaq is VERY dominant yes... but remember, Shaq kind of caught all of the dominant centers in the league in the later stages of their career.

In the beginning, Shaq didnt dominate Olajuwan, or Robinson or Ewing. They were all solid rivalries. Olajuwan dominated Shaq in the finals. Robinson didnt lose to Shaq for the first 2 or 3 seasons in the league. Ewing was always toe to toe with him. Mutumbo.. well, he just seems to be all elbows and knees..

It wasnt until Shaq reached his prime, and all the other guys were almost at the end of their career, that he started putting it on them. But it wasnt always like that.

Shaq is top 5, but not the top Dawg.


Ok... Walton may be high, but it starts getting thin. Maybe Walton 10, Parish 9 and etc.



Posted by: Flex

YES he is bro.

Shaq in his prime is the greatest center in history, and i'm not even a big fan of him.

Put him (in his prime) back in Wilt's day, and Shaq would've averaged 100 points/game. Put Wilt in his prime in today's game, and he's an average Stilt.

In his prime, Shaq is better than any center in their prime, ever.



Posted by: gr81

Quote:
Originally posted by Flex
i have to disagree. There was ONE good center in the league, Bill Russell, when Wilt dominated, (who, by the way, used to contain Wilt every time they played.....11 championship rings).

On the other hand, Shaq has DOMINATED every good modern day center he has played against. The admiral, the dream, Ewing, Duncan (even though he's a PF), Mourning, Mutombo.......you name it, Shaq's dominated them.

and they didn't coin the term "Hack-a-Shaq" b/c they could stop him. they foul the shit outta him and force him to shoot free throws cuz that's his only weakness, and if they didn't, he'd be COMPLETELY unstoppable.

and if you wanna get really nittygritty, put Shaq vs. Wilt one-on-one, and Shaq would shut his skinny ass out, no question.
Completely untrue bro, sorry. Remember when Hakeem was in his prime, he used to embarass Oneal. Same with Robinson, he used to beat him up game after game. Oneal has his weight and power, but Hakeem was two time the center Shaq ever was. He can do things that Shaq can't even think about doing. He could shoot the jumper, his post game was much more versatile, he was a better passer. Shaq was a better rebounder and power man, but thats it. Hakeem was more complete, Robinson was more complete, and Wilt was definately more complete! no doubt about it.



Posted by: Flex

SHAQ is, in Arnold terms, NUMERO UNO



Posted by: BigBallaGA

man how many times can i tell these dumb rookies that SHAQ is the best center to EVER play the game !!!!!!

next time, ill type in french.....



Posted by: camarosuper6

Rookie?

Hmm... like jumping on the Shaq bandwagon doesnt sound a little rookieish???

Sure hes dominant, but mostly at the expense of many NBA rules. If he didnt plummet everyone and run over people, he wouldnt be where he is today.

BTW Olajuwan toasted Shaq......



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally posted by camarosuper6
Sure hes dominant, but mostly at the expense of many NBA rules. If he didnt plummet everyone and run over people, he wouldnt be where he is today.

BTW Olajuwan toasted Shaq......
I completely agree with you that there should be more fouls on him called (and even 3 second violations for that matter), but you can't possibly say he'd wouldn't be as good.
BTW, He wouldn't run over people if every team in the league didnt use the "Hack-a-Shaq" method.

p.s. Put Hakeem in his prime vs. Shaq in his prime (not in his younger years when they squared off), and Shaq DOMINATES, no questions asked.



Posted by: Flex

BTW camaro, great idea for a thread......can't wait to see what suprise there is next week haha



Posted by: BigBallaGA

dude, just sheer power and agression wise his skils not even withstanding, he kills every center to ever play the game !!!

now that sheer power and agression with his skills standing, and he is on another level from everyone else....

no one can handle shaq, i've seen interviews with people like robinson, malone and the rest who said that comes to the center position no one can hold their own against Shaq...... there is no debate in the center position as to who is the best of all time

now the guard position, yea there is contemplation and a cohesive argument to be made for a few players for the top spot !!!



Posted by: camarosuper6

Well Flex my friend I truely believe Hakeem in his prime and Shaq in his prime, although an AWESOME matchup, Hakeem would prevail. Shaq cannot be stopped physically, but Hakeem was probably the greatest defensive center of the last 2 decades. If anyone had a chance at stopping shaq, or at least playing nose to nose, its hakeem. Shaq's main weakness IMO is his defense, where Hakeems moves would destory Shaq (If they can destory a super quick David Robinson, then Shaqs much slower defensive reactions would be silly ).

But thats My opinion.




Cant wait to see what I can think up for next thread



Posted by: austinite

Oh yeah! NBA fans! The Final Four is great, but I'm an NBA man.

Top 10 Centers?
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Shaq
Akeem
Walton
Tim Duncan
Ralph Sampson
Mo Malone
Ewing



Posted by: I'm Trying

I'd put Mutumbo in the top ten before I'd put Bill Walton. Now if you're figuring Walton's college career into this then maybe but this is pure NBA and Walton doesn't even belong. I would even but Vlade Divac in there before Walton maybe in 9th before Parrish. Parrish wasn't really dominate due to the team around him with the Celtics in the mid 80's. I'd rate Robinson in front of O'neal any day of the week due to Robinson's ability at his size. Shaq should have/ or be as dominate as Wilt.



Posted by: I'm Trying

Quote:
Originally posted by austinite
Oh yeah! NBA fans! The Final Four is great, but I'm an NBA man.

Top 10 Centers?
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Shaq
Akeem
Walton
Tim Duncan
Ralph Sampson
Mo Malone
Ewing

Ralph Sampson!!! Why didn't you just post Benoit Benjamin or Joe Barry Carroll??



Posted by: I'm Trying

My top ten...

10. Vlade Divac- One of the best passing big men of all time next to Robinson.
9. Parrish- Like I said in an earlier post not as dominate as he possibly could have been due to having Bird, McHale and company around him.
8. George Mikan- One of the first dominate Big Men in the NBA.
7. Moses Malone- Great Center not top 5.
6. Ewing- Great Center all the Way around.
5. O'Neal- Not as dominate as he should be. I'm sorry but he should be averaging over 30pts 20boards and 5 to 6 blocks per game. Especially what the officials give him night in and night out.
4. Robinson- Imagine if he didn't spend those years of his prime in the Navy??
3. Olajuwan- Great on both sides of the floor on O and D. Could hit those baseline jumpers, pass, rebound and block shots with the best of them.
2. Chamberlain- If he could only shoot free throws and win som championships I'd rank him #1.
1. Jabbar- All time leading scorer, and had the hook from hell.

Please feel free to pick this apart. PLEASE back it up though with good fact if you do!!



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally posted by I'm Trying
My top ten...

10. Vlade Divac- One of the best passing big men of all time next to Robinson.
9. Parrish- Like I said in an earlier post not as dominate as he possibly could have been due to having Bird, McHale and company around him.

5. O'Neal- Not as dominate as he should be. I'm sorry but he should be averaging over 30pts 20boards and 5 to 6 blocks per game. Especially what the officials give him night in and night out.

Please feel free to pick this apart. PLEASE back it up though with good fact if you do!!
well, you want me to pick it apart....so here goes......

1st of all, you don't have Bill Russell. the guy has more championship rings than fingers, and is considered one of the BEST defensive players ever.......he used to DOMINATE Wilt.

10. VLADE??? OMG

9. Parrish is one of the NBA's 50greatest and def. deserves a top 10. he won only like 5 rings

5. And Shaq is NOT as dominant as he should be???? bro, he's got the SECOND best player in the NBA on his team who also wants to score 30pts/night, not to mention Malone and Payton (this year).
Besides, he doesnt dominate as much ever since "HackaShaq" was invented, cuz freethrow shooting is his ONLY weakness. Yes, officials give him alot of calls, but he gets MURDERED night in, night out as well.

i can't believe you guys don't consider Shaq #1 center of all time, its like the only thing me and my buddies can agree about regarding sports (well that, and how Jordan, Bird and Magic are the top 3).



Posted by: I'm Trying

What about shaq before Kobe became as good as he is? What about when he was with Orlando?? Shit I forgot about putting Russell on there. But I'd put Divac on there like I said before, before Walton.

Shaq's other weakness is keeping his f-ing yap shut. If Shaq was smart enough he would have worked on that part of his game to improve it in stead of putting out those HORRIBLE rap albums and movies.
Who do you rate the BEST player in the Nba then Flex??



Posted by: camarosuper6

Shaq is great, but IMO overrated as far as the Top Centers Ever.

1. Wilt
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Hakeem
5. Shaq


Now.. if we were going by pure talent.. here is my list

1. Wilt
2. Hakeem
3. Robinson
4. Kareem
5. Russell
6. Shaq

Of course, talent doesnt decide dominance..



Posted by: gr81

Anyone who thinks that Shaq in his prime was better then Hakeem in his prime, is absolutely nuts. By the wat, the less talented than teh Laker rockets won two NBA championships at a time when the talent in the league was MUCH tougher, and they beat the Magic with Oneal, and swept them 4 straight. Hakeem had and all around game and played like it every night, where is Shaq comes to camp overweight every year. Shaq is great, but he could be greater



Posted by: I'm Trying

i have sort of a bias against Bill Russell. My home team the Sac Kings hired him as a coach and GM and brought over Sampson. All Russell did was set the Kings back farther and had more of a mountain to climb to the point that they are at now. It also helps due to the new ownership.



Posted by: I'm Trying

Quote:
Originally posted by gr81
Anyone who thinks that Shaq in his prime was better then Hakeem in his prime, is absolutely nuts. By the wat, the less talented than teh Laker rockets won two NBA championships at a time when the talent in the league was MUCH tougher, and they beat the Magic with Oneal, and swept them 4 straight. Hakeem had and all around game and played like it every night, where is Shaq comes to camp overweight every year. Shaq is great, but he could be greater
Exactly.



Posted by: camarosuper6

I agree. If you really wanna get down to it IMO, I truly deep down believe Hakeem may be the greatest center in history. I put Wilt and Kareem there because of their accomplishments, but in all honesty, I think Hakeem could have schooled both of them, especially Kareem (who I believe is great, but overrated really). They never had to play against the competition Hakeem did as far as big men.

But that is just my opinion.



Posted by: camarosuper6

Actually, if each center where in his prime, I think Robinson could have schooled Kareem and Wilt as well. Hakeem and Robinson (although Robinson didnt have that aggression that Hakeem had) were so quick and athletic, Kareem and Wilt never ever saw any competition like them. If they were all playing in their prime in the league, Hakeem and Robinson could have given them absolute fits!



Posted by: aztecwolf

luc longley has gotta be somewhere up there, i mean the dude is australian so he's gotta be cool



Posted by: aztecwolf

'Zo was pretty good in his prime too bad about the injuries and the disease, he was a good one, but if i had to have one center it would be the dream, i used to love watchin him upfake entire teams, he was awesome



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally posted by I'm Trying
What about shaq before Kobe became as good as he is? What about when he was with Orlando??

Shaq's other weakness is keeping his f-ing yap shut. If Shaq was smart enough he would have worked on that part of his game to improve it in stead of putting out those HORRIBLE rap albums and movies.
Who do you rate the BEST player in the Nba then Flex??
Well, when Shaq was on Orlando, alls he did was pull down entire backboards, but he wasnt as dominant yet.

the best player in the league is Shaq. IF the NBA had a draft, and put EVERY player in the draft pool, guarenteed Shaq would go #1. The ONLY reason he wouldn't is cuz he is getting old, and the team with the 1st pick may draft for the future w/younger guys....i.e. Kobe would be 1st if Shaq wasn't, then prob. Duncan or Garnett.....



Posted by: austinite

Quote:
Originally posted by I'm Trying
I'd put Mutumbo in the top ten before I'd put Bill Walton. Now if you're figuring Walton's college career into this then maybe but this is pure NBA and Walton doesn't even belong.
How can you say Walton doesn't belong win he wears an NBA championship ring???



Posted by: gr81

Shaq is NOT the best player in the league, he is the best at what he does definately, but not the all around best player in the league. T-Mac is better, Kobe is better, Carter, Duncan, and Garnett are also better all around players than Shaq. Shaq can;t win by himself.



Posted by: Brak86

im sort of biased against vlade divac of the kings because he needs to take a bath. and he looks like an overgrown sewer rat.



Posted by: camarosuper6

Luc Longley might be on the all time bust list....



Posted by: I'm Trying

Quote:
Originally posted by Flex
Well, when Shaq was on Orlando, alls he did was pull down entire backboards, but he wasnt as dominant yet.

the best player in the league is Shaq. IF the NBA had a draft, and put EVERY player in the draft pool, guarenteed Shaq would go #1. The ONLY reason he wouldn't is cuz he is getting old, and the team with the 1st pick may draft for the future w/younger guys....i.e. Kobe would be 1st if Shaq wasn't, then prob. Duncan or Garnett.....
Lets say they had a NBA draft where all players go into a pool and everyone is 22 years old (that are currently in the NBA) I'd probably take Garnett or Duncan with the #1 pick. I don't care for Shaq cause of his work ethic and his big fat mouth. If he was like Duncan, and was just quiet did his job, and worked his ass off I would take Shaq possibly #1. But he is just a cocky SOB...



Posted by: dg806

8. Bill Walton- No way in hell Walton is top ten, not a chance

Did you ever see him play? Nuff Said!



Posted by: gr81

yes I have, he isn't top ten bro, sorry



Posted by: austinite

It's all about the rings. Walton has one (NBA and NCAA). That's why he belongs.



Posted by: BigBallaGA

its not about the rings fool

there are tons of people who get rings just by sitting on the bench and being part of the team, that doesnt mean they belong on any list !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get it right



Posted by: dg806

Quote:
Originally posted by gr81
yes I have, he isn't top ten bro, sorry
You were 6 when he retired. I don't think that counts.
To really know how someone played, you have to see them live!



Posted by: gr81

I have seen countless games fgrom when he was at his greatest on Portland back in the day, in 77 when they won the title with Jack Ramsey coaching, I know what I am talkin about, so please. Put him in teh league today and he would be a bench warmer with the athletic ability he has, top ten is no where in his resume bro.

And by the way, balla is right, just b/c someone has a ring doesn't mean shit. shit Sam Cassell had two ring shis first two years in the league, does that mean he is one of the greatest guards ever, hell no. you better have a better arguement than that to put someone in the top ten players ever!



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally posted by gr81
Shaq is NOT the best player in the league, he is the best at what he does definately, but not the all around best player in the league. T-Mac is better, Kobe is better, Carter, Duncan, and Garnett are also better all around players than Shaq. Shaq can;t win by himself.
Well, like i said before, minus injuries, if they had a league-wide draft, guess who would be drafted number 1 overall.....Wilt Chamberneezee



Posted by: austinite

Quote:
Originally posted by BigBallaGA
its not about the rings fool

there are tons of people who get rings just by sitting on the bench and being part of the team, that doesnt mean they belong on any list !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get it right
You're wrong chump. Of course it's not only the ring, but the greatest ones find a way to win championships, not just pile up stats.



Posted by: jaim91

george mikan - the father of all centers (not biologically)



Posted by: BigBallaGA

Quote:
Originally posted by austinite
You're wrong chump. Of course it's not only the ring, but the greatest ones find a way to win championships, not just pile up stats.
Karl Malone comes to mind as being so much fucking better than most others in the league present and past, yet he hasnt won a ring not because of lack of talent but because of a shitty team.......my point exact !!! when you know what you are talking about come talk to me



Posted by: jaim91

One could say the same about Wilt - how many rings does he have vs. how many he deserves



Posted by: BigBallaGA

Quote:
Originally posted by jaim91
One could say the same about Wilt - how many rings does he have vs. how many he deserves
exactly !!! these are just the most prominent ones, but there are others



Posted by: gr81

rings do not necessarily determine a players legacy, not at all. We could go down the list and name players that have rings, its irrelevant. Yes great players do win champoinships, but sometimes outside circumstances are too much. For instance, whose to say that Malone wouldn't have two rings already if not for MJ being around those two years. Does that mean that Malone isn't great, no it means that Jordan is greater. Same goes with almost everyone else in that era like Ewing, Barkley, so on and so on..... you are way off austinite.



Posted by: jaim91

Please tell me who is "greater" than Wilt during during his 64-67 run...



Posted by: gr81

^^exactly



Posted by: austinite

Quote:
Originally posted by BigBallaGA
Karl Malone comes to mind as being so much fucking better than most others in the league present and past, yet he hasnt won a ring not because of lack of talent but because of a shitty team.......my point exact !!! when you know what you are talking about come talk to me
The mailman has MVPs and scoring titles but no ring because he couldn't lead his team past MJ, who IS a champion. He left his team to join the Lakers so he could ride the wave and get a ring. Let's see if he can do it.



Posted by: jaim91

The Lakers are off to a good start!! Let's hope Karl has a kick ass surfboard (reference to austinite's "wave" analogy...bad joke)



Posted by: once was fat

Quote:
Originally posted by camarosuper6
Well Flex my friend I truely believe Hakeem in his prime and Shaq in his prime, although an AWESOME matchup, Hakeem would prevail. Shaq cannot be stopped physically, but Hakeem was probably the greatest defensive center of the last 2 decades. If anyone had a chance at stopping shaq, or at least playing nose to nose, its hakeem. Shaq's main weakness IMO is his defense, where Hakeems moves would destory Shaq (If they can destory a super quick David Robinson, then Shaqs much slower defensive reactions would be silly ).

But thats My opinion.




Cant wait to see what I can think up for next thread

Plus Kareen could shoot free throws. Shaq still cant.



Posted by: jaim91

Shaq just can't run to the other end of the court fast enough to catch up with Hakeem. Maybe if there were playing on my driveway...



Posted by: Dodgeman-P

Well I have to say that your List is ok but not real accurate.
here is my List and this is based on pure atheltic ability and the ability to play good basketball.

10. Robert Parrish.
9. Bill Russell
8. Wilt Chamberlin
7. Moses Malone
6. Bill Walton
5. Patrick EKareem
4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Tim Duncan
2. David Robinson
1. Hakeem Olajuwan


The reason for this List is Wilt Chamberlin had no competition neither did bill russell in their prime and Shaq never have liked him he cant shoot cant run cant dripple has no flow about him he can just dunk. Olajuwan made him look like a fool in the nba finals in 94 just embarrased him. Olajuwan is the best ever. and remember he was in when barkley and jordan and payton and robinson and ewing was there and he still beat them all. anyway this is my list.








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