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Power/reprange/shock OR HST ???

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Posted by: buffed

Which is better for bulkin?

Posted by: CowPimp

I can't tell you from personal experience. However, I do think that the feedback on the P/RR/S program appears to be better than that of HST. Try both and see which one works better for you.

Posted by: Arthur2004

never did HST....but Power/reprange/shock has been great

Posted by: maniclion

HST = Hunter S. Thompson? I'm sure he's better for a cut with the mounds of coke and transcontinental rails of speed

For a bulk I would go power/rr/shock I heard it works well on both

Posted by: Spitfire

LOL

Posted by: Tank316

hmmm, let me think here!!!!! could it be P/RR/Sh, why yes it is!!!!!

Posted by: draven

I liked EDT over HST.

But still have to give the P/RR/Sh a try.

I know that didn't help much. :P

Posted by: Alaric

I can't vote on this just because I haven't tried HST yet. However, I have been using P/RR/S for several months now, and it has yet to failed me. I've kept on gaining, building myself a better body, while watching my all of my overall lifts increase!

Posted by: Prince

You need to find out which works best for you, try them both for 8 weeks and see how your progress.

Posted by: gopro

Personally, I've heard some good things about P/RR/S. I'll have to vote for that one.

Posted by: Spitfire

LOL^

Posted by: DeadBolt

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Originally posted by gopro
Personally, I've heard some good things about P/RR/S. I'll have to vote for that one.

LOL

Could you say that through experience or is it all hearsay

Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by DeadBolt
LOL

Could you say that through experience or is it all hearsay

Well, I don't personally work out, but I've heard that this program really kicks ass from everyone using it

Posted by: ALBOB

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Originally posted by gopro
Well, I don't personally work out

I knew it!!! I knew you were just another fake, bloated on Muscletech supps.

Posted by: maniclion

Holy crap look who ventured out of Open Chat^

Posted by: buffed

P/RR/S seems to have the winning vote...

Posted by: camarosuper6

Well, I have not tried GoPros workout but I do know from experience that HST is catching on like wildfire in some areas, and it has worked great for me. (I currently do an HST like program)

Posted by: Vesuvius

What is HST?

Posted by: buffed

Holy ShiT

HST --> Hyperthrophy Specific Training.
Heres a link to it:
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html

Posted by: darklight

Has anyone tried both?

Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by ALBOB
I knew it!!! I knew you were just another fake, bloated on Muscletech supps.

First time I hear from you in months and this is the post I get!

(Dude, I told you to keep the Muscle Tech thing under wraps...shhhhh)

Posted by: P-funk

Here is a thought.....why not come up with your own program?

Posted by: Sapphire

I ONLY listen to GP!!! And anyone who doesn't is

Posted by: P-funk

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Originally posted by Sapphire
I ONLY listen to GP!!! And anyone who doesn't is

you have to be kidding me.

Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally posted by P-funk

you have to be kidding me.

Actually I was goofing around... BUT GP is my trainer and I am currently doing the P/RR/S program and LOVING IT!!. And dont roll your eyes at ME Mister!!

Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by Sapphire
I ONLY listen to GP!!! And anyone who doesn't is

You were right on here honey

Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro
You were right on here honey

Posted by: Tank316

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Originally posted by Sapphire
Actually I was goofing around... BUT GP is my trainer and I am currently doing the P/RR/S program and LOVING IT!!. And dont roll your eyes at ME Mister!!

***Tank rolls eyes****, now spank dam it, cuz i deserve it!!!!!

Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally posted by Spitfire
LOL^

Oh my God Spitfire! I love that line from Princess Bride!!! That is the best part of the movie!! SORRY for whoring GP!!!

Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally posted by Tank316
***Tank rolls eyes****, now spank dam it, cuz i deserve it!!!!!

Now Tank... you ARE a very bad boy, rolling your eyes at me! Come to mama.......

Posted by: Tank316

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Originally posted by Sapphire
Now Tank... you ARE a very bad boy, rolling your eyes at me! Come to mama.......

o.k i'm sorry.

Posted by: TriZZle305

LAM hasnt voted for HST yet?

Posted by: Big Smoothy

A principle belief in HST, is that if someone does more than 2 sets in the same workout of the same exercise, the 3rd set only burns calories, and doesn't increase hypertrophy.

Who agrees and disagrees with this?

Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by Mr_Snafu
A principle belief in HST, is that if someone does more than 2 sets in the same workout of the same exercise, the 3rd set only burns calories, and doesn't increase hypertrophy.

Who agrees and disagrees with this?

Silly statement as a generality. Too many variables involved to say this.

Posted by: camarosuper6

The site only says that there is "Some" evidence that any sets past the first only serve to burn calories. Thats why you do 2 sets, to play safe.

Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by camarosuper6
The site only says that there is "Some" evidence that any sets past the first only serve to burn calories. Thats why you do 2 sets, to play safe.

Very silly.

Posted by: darklight

Agree with gopro!
I use Some HST principles in my training, but not one's like this...

Posted by: camarosuper6

I dont see why its silly. The science behind what he has on his site is well researched, and I use his principles with great success. Nothing against GoPros' workouts, they look great, and totally agree with the variation he bases his workouts on, but IMO HST is something that could really change the way a regular person trains.

Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by camarosuper6
I dont see why its silly. The science behind what he has on his site is well researched, and I use his principles with great success. Nothing against GoPros' workouts, they look great, and totally agree with the variation he bases his workouts on, but IMO HST is something that could really change the way a regular person trains.

There is no credible scientific proof that one set is "probably" enough, so we should do a second one just in case, but a third would just burn calories but build no further muscle. There are training protocols where 8-10 sets per exercise is most effective. Now, understand that most of the time I only do 2 sets per exercise, but thats b/c I keep overall volume low and like to use multiple movements, so I'm not saying that only doing 2 sets will NOT work. But, the blanket statement that doing no more than 2 sets per exercise, no matter what the overall volume, rep range, training strategy, etc is ludicrous!!! There is far more anecdotal and scientific evidence that multiple set training is needed to completely exhaust the motor unit pool than single set training.

I repeat...its a silly statement. That is MY opinion based on MY experience, my research, my consultation with other experts, and that is all I can say!

Posted by: squanto

i used to do a similar workout to hst... it just seems to be a full-body workout. it worked for me, but i wanted a change after a while. its always good to vary exercises, but whether 2 or 4 is better could easily be debated. gopro's workout works for some, as hst will work for others. i believe variation would be best, as gopros workout proves, but maybe it would be better to try both, and swith between the two after a week of rest, to shock the muslces even more?

im sure people would swear by HST and otehrs woudl swear by gopro's.... im sure they both work. find one that works for you and use it. besides, a lot of the principles used by both workouts are the same... variation in exercises, compound movements, proper nutrition, etc...
i personally got tired of the full-body workout 3x a week, as it seemed too tiring with not enough results, but who knows, i might go back one day just to switch it up.

Posted by: Tha Don

I'd like to try Go Pro's P/RR/S soon

i'm assuming it could be used on both bulk and cut cycles? by adjusting calories and level of CV to reach personal weight and BF goals?

i'm 1 of these guys who is naturally tall and skinny (ecto), i've got strength but i still need more mass, hopefully GP's workout will fix this, i wanna get them muscles poppin out there more

peace

Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by young d
I'd like to try Go Pro's P/RR/S soon

i'm assuming it could be used on both bulk and cut cycles? by adjusting calories and level of CV to reach personal weight and BF goals?

i'm 1 of these guys who is naturally tall and skinny (ecto), i've got strength but i still need more mass, hopefully GP's workout will fix this, i wanna get them muscles poppin out there more

peace

I use P/RR/S for both bulking and cutting. Since you are an ectomorph, however, I recommend a slight variation...

P/P/RR/S

In order to hit higher threshold fast twitch fibers more often and to increase overall strength which will eventually translate to bigger muscles.

Posted by: Tank316

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro
I use P/RR/S for both bulking and cutting. Since you are an ectomorph, however, I recommend a slight variation...

P/P/RR/S

In order to hit higher threshold fast twitch fibers more often and to increase overall strength which will eventually translate to bigger muscles.

ditto on the cutting as well as the bulking.

Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by Tank316
ditto on the cutting as well as the bulking.

You would know!

Posted by: buffed

How to identify your type of body? im not sure if i am an ecto or mesomorph

Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally posted by Tank316
ditto on the cutting as well as the bulking.

Hey Tank!

You should change believer to groupie.. like me. We can scream and jump up and down together when we see GP... you can catch me when I swoon!

AND Coach WHEN AM I GONNA BE AS BIG AS TANK?????

Posted by: Tank316

Quote:

Originally posted by Sapphire
Hey Tank!

You should change believer to groupie.. like me. We can scream and jump up and down together when we see GP... you can catch me when I swoon!

AND Coach WHEN AM I GONNA BE AS BIG AS TANK?????

will do, i'm off for some morning cardio and other fun stuff, when i return, i will do just that!!!!!

Posted by: gopro

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Originally posted by buffed
How to identify your type of body? im not sure if i am an ecto or mesomorph

Ectomorphic body structure is characterized by a light bone structure, smaller joints, thin muscles, low bodyfat, and a fast metabolism.

Mesomorphs are thicker boned, but joints still relatively small, bodyfat low but not as low as ectos, and a propensity to carry muscle with very little traning.

All people are usually a combination of 2 somatotypes with one being slightly dominant.

Posted by: gopro

Quote:

Originally posted by Sapphire
Hey Tank!

You should change believer to groupie.. like me. We can scream and jump up and down together when we see GP... you can catch me when I swoon!

AND Coach WHEN AM I GONNA BE AS BIG AS TANK?????

GP groupies...I LIKE that!

And Sapphy honey...we both know you don't want to be as big as the freak they call "Tank!"

Posted by: Tha Don

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great stuff, i'm looking forward to trying it

i'll start it in May

Mon - Chest
Tue - Back + Abs
Weds - Rest
Thurs - Delts + C.V.
Fri - Arms + Abs
Sat - Legs + C.V.
Sun - Rest

Dose that split look okay, or would you recommend something else for me?

Thanks

Posted by: gopro

Quote:

Originally posted by young d
great stuff, i'm looking forward to trying it

i'll start it in May

Mon - Chest
Tue - Back + Abs
Weds - Rest
Thurs - Delts + C.V.
Fri - Arms + Abs
Sat - Legs + C.V.
Sun - Rest

Dose that split look okay, or would you recommend something else for me?

Thanks

I prefer to only train 4 days per week, but if you feel you can recover with 5, your split is workable.

Posted by: CowPimp

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My split is very similar to that, except that I do delts on chest day, and the arms and leg days are pushed back one. Also, I do my cardio inconsistently depending on time constraints. I prefer no more than 4 days per week (I used to do 3), but if you don't mind lifting 5 days per week then by all means...

Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro
GP groupies...I LIKE that!

And Sapphy honey...we both know you don't want to be as big as the freak they call "Tank!"

Yeah Baby... you got yourself a couple of groupies!!

That's true... I guess Tank is freakishly big and muscular!! OK maybe half a tank for me!!

Posted by: SpongeBob

First Post!

4th Week of P/RR/S. Did P/RR and P/P about to hit the RR/S over the next 2 weeks. Can't wait to try shock week! Although I think it is going to be tough to superset in my gym unless I wait to go late at night.

I don't think I have ever had a program that keeps your body guessing like this one does!

Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by SpongeBob

First Post!

I don't think I have ever had a program that keeps your body guessing like this one does!

Thanks for posting. I'm so glad you are liking my program! If its tough to do supersets in your gym, either make more use of dropsets (like just 1 superset and 2 different dropsets), or use supersets that don't require you to move around too much, like flat flye/bench press, pullover/lat pulldowns, preacher curl/barbell curl, etc.

Keep us posted!

Posted by: FishOrCutBait

P/RR/S IS THE BEST!!! Thats simply all there is to it...

Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

P/RR/S IS THE BEST!!! Thats simply all there is to it...

Thanks so much. Your constant support is greatly appreciated.

Posted by: camarosuper6

I never tried P/RR/S, but I would say its superior because it incorporates more variation and much higher intensity

Posted by: Saturday Fever

I love routines that justify ideas with strong words like "probably" or "might." Nothing instills greater confidence in me than hearing that I MIGHT see results or I will PROBABLY see results.

Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Saturday Fever

I love routines that justify ideas with strong words like "probably" or "might." Nothing instills greater confidence in me than hearing that I MIGHT see results or I will PROBABLY see results.

That would actually apply to ANY routine you could try: mine, DC, Westside, AST, HIT, or any other you could possibly think of.

Absolutely NO program is guarenteed to produce for EVERYONE.

But thanks for your unprovoked backdoor attack

Posted by: Saturday Fever

If you reread the post, I was attacking HST, not your routine. I've never heard you claim your routine "might" work and I've never seen someone come here saying it didn't. Relax man, Jesus.

Posted by: gopro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturday Fever

If you reread the post, I was attacking HST, not your routine. I've never heard you claim your routine "might" work and I've never seen someone come here saying it didn't. Relax man, Jesus.

Well, you did not specify the routine you were referring to...and, your post came right after several regarding MY program (thats why I assumed you were talking about P/RR/S).

However, it seems I jumped the gun, and for that I do apologize.

Posted by: Saturday Fever

Bah! I could have been more specific.

And if I can get off-topic for a second, I chugged a Redline two days ago. I just went to sleep last night.

Posted by: gopro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturday Fever

Bah! I could have been more specific.

And if I can get off-topic for a second, I chugged a Redline two days ago. I just went to sleep last night.

Yeah, those RTDs are pretty potent! Most people look like this 30 min after drinking one

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