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Posted by: AKILLY

Hello, I have been working out for about 2 months now trying to lose of fat that I had. I have been doing great, But I know want to build some muscle. I don't want to be all buff, but just gain some more lean mass (muscle). So I am thinking of buying a protein supplements. I have looking into to supplements and I just wanted your opinion on them or if anyone has taking these.
Supplements in mind. Low Carb Isopure 3lb Dutch Chocolate by Nature's Best and VP2 Whey Isolate or if there's a better one out there please let me know , Thank you

Posted by: Prince

www.allthewhey.com

Posted by: AKILLY

Why www.allthewhey.com? do you take this supplement? have you tried the one's I mentioned?

Posted by: Prince

yes I do, 2-3 times per day for the past 5 months.

(they are one of our site sponsors)

Posted by: ah1

Try the AST VP2, this will prove to be the best supplement. If in doubt do a quick search on the Ast web site. ast-ss.com

Posted by: Prince

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Originally posted by ah1
Try the AST VP2, this will prove to be the best supplement.

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=116

Posted by: AKILLY

ah1 do you take AST VP2? and if so how do you like it? have you gain some good lean body mass.

Thanks Prince for the link, I have serached the web about this producted I just would like some info on this product if anyone is using it. It does sound like a good supplement.

Posted by: ah1

Yes I use VP2 the gains are all pure muscle mass not fat although do not expect instant results from one tub (protein is the most important supplement but only one part of training), I find that it is the best from all of the 90+ brands that I have access to. My main business is selling supplements although we are in no way tied into any one brand. It is nice to be able to give advice impartially rather than for profit. If you look on ast’s web site for the info you can search the web for the best price. We find that many of our customers will only use VP2 but any gains that you get are always going to be personal to you, everyone’s training, nutrition and lifestyles are all different.

Posted by: physicallyelite

If you want the best protein powder for building muscle and supporting fat loss choose a product that includes both casein and whey.

Below is a link an article that a study that compared whey and whey-casein supplements and their ability to build muscle.

A Better Whey to Build Muscle
http://www.physicallyelite.com/artic...action=article

Posted by: AKILLY

physicallyelite do you take some a whey-casein supplement and if so which one?

Posted by: ah1

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Originally posted by physicallyelite
If you want the best protein powder for building muscle and supporting fat loss choose a product that includes both casein and whey.

my thoughts differ from the above.

see this study.

"American College of Sports Medicine's 49th Annual Meeting, 2002 in St Louis, Missouri. This convention was also held in conjunction with the 6th International Olympic Committee's World Congress on Sport Science, making it one of the most significant gatherings in recent sports science history."

Volume 34 - Number 5 - May 2002
Supplement to
Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise®
Official Journal of the American College of Sports Medicine

Abstract #1688

THE EFFECT OF WHEY ISOLATE AND RESISTANCE TRAINING ON STRENGTH, BODY COMPOSITION AND PLASMA GLUTAMINE

P.J. Cribb, A.D. Williams, A. Hayes, M.F. Carey
Center for Rehabilitation in Exercise and Sport Science, Victoria University of Technology, Australia

It is well-established that athletes undertaking intense resistance training programs require higher dietary protein intakes. However very few studies have addressed what type of protein is optimal to enhance effects from weight training exercise. Whey isolate and casein are two protein supplements commonly used by bodybuilders and other strength athletes.

PURPOSE:
This study examined the effects of these two supplements on strength, body composition and plasma glutamine levels during a 10-week intense resistance training program.

METHODS:
In a randomized, double-blind protocol thirteen resistance-trained males (mean ± SD age:25.5 ± 6.68yr; height:179.67 ± 7.94cm; weight:83.97 ± 4.98kg.) supplemented their normal diet with either a 100% whey isolate or casein protein supplement (1.5gms/kg body wt/day) for 12 weeks. To ensure normal eating patterns were maintained, written three-day food recordings were completed by the bodybuilders throughout the study. Compliance to the supplement intake and nutrition recordings was 100%. Strength was assessed by 1-RM in the barbell bench press, squat and lat-pull down. Body composition was assed by DEXA QDR 4500. Plasma glutamine levels were determined by the enzymatic method with spectroscopic detection. All assessments occurred in the week before (week 1) and the week after training (week 12).

RESULTS:
The whey isolate group achieved a significantly greater gain (P < 0.01) in lean mass than the casein group (4.99 ± 0.25 vs. 0.81 ± 0.43 kg for whey and casein groups, respectively). While both groups significantly increased (P < 0.05) strength in the three exercises assessed, the whey isolate group made greater strength increases (P < 0.05) in all three exercises compared to the group supplementing with casein. The whey isolate group also showed a significantly greater (P < 0.05) change in fat mass (-1.46 ± 0.52) than the casein group (+0.19 ± 0.27 kg). Plasma glutamine levels, pre- and post-training, did not change in either group.

CONCLUSION:
The major finding of this study was that a 100% whey isolate protein supplement was more effective at increasing muscle mass and strength and decreasing fat mass than a casein protein supplement in resistance trained athletes. Both types of protein appear to prevent a decline in plasma glutamine levels that have previously been reported with intense exercise training.

Posted by: AKILLY

ah1 Nice read! thanks

Posted by: physicallyelite

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Originally posted by ah1
my thoughts differ from the above.

see this study.

Yes but if you read the study they were comparing whey alone with casein alone. The study I referenced used whey and casein combined against whey+glutamine+bcaa.

Posted by: physicallyelite

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Originally posted by AKILLY
physicallyelite do you take some a whey-casein supplement and if so which one?

There are many good whey-casein supplements. Two good choices are Met Rx Protein Plus and VPX Sports Micellean. They use high quality proteins, mix easily in water, and taste good.

Posted by: AKILLY

So physicallyelite you acutally take this right? is there any bad sideafects?

Posted by: physicallyelite

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Originally posted by AKILLY
So physicallyelite you acutally take this right? is there any bad sideafects?

I am currently using VPX Micellean and haven't experienced anything negative.

Posted by: AKILLY

How long have you been taking it? How do you look and feel while taking this product? have you gain lean mass and lost some fat? Where did you get yours from.

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