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Posted by: 2BigGunz

I no everyone's gonna tell me to chill out but what's the sortest time you can space out your cycle's ..... ?

ie if you do like a 10 weeker do you have to wait 10 week,s before going again ?



Posted by: Mudge

Shortest time, 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds I suppose.

You wait as long as you want, its your health.



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

I've always read time on = time off. This is supposed to be the best way to make sure your body gets to regulate itself before you go at it again. I am sure its very tempting to stay on especially if you had awesome gains. Like Mudge said its up to you and how far your willing to push your body.



Posted by: Mudge

PCT also counts as time on, which means another 5-8 weeks, making 2 cycles a year not possible.

Only a blood test can tell you when you are recoperated, and you would have to be off the PCT for at least about 6 weeks to get an accurate reading, because residual effects last awhile.



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

I think I am going to do my cycle that is comming up, and not another one until I am getting ready for my first show next April. Doing a 12 weeker and following time on time off rule I will probably just be ready to go again come that time. I am not going to become a heavy almost always on kind of guy unless I feel that I have a chance at turning pro. If I can't make it to the national level being a moderate user then why put my body through hell just to make it no where in the sport. I think being on all the time just because you wanna be big and bench a ton is kinda foolish.



Posted by: Power Rabbit

a good comprimise is to bridge your steroid cycles with things that dont cause hpta shutdown....things like GH, IGF, slin, etc



Posted by: Mudge

Unless you are genetically gifted I dont think anyone would make it to being an NPC heavyweight without a good load of juice. Most of those guys are year round. One well built Canadian amateur is near year round but he takes 4 or 6 week breaks, he loses mass quite fast if he comes off he says.



Posted by: 2BigGunz

All year cycle, get out of hear !

what's IGF, slin



Posted by: Mudge

Insulin-like Growth Factor, Insulin.



Posted by: Just a guy

<sigh> my gaps between cycles are 2-3 weeks... i gotta stop that shit. Do you think GH would be a good choice for me for bridging mudge? PRobably not because i heard that GH was for the big boys... and this is only my 3rd cycle.



Posted by: Power Rabbit

jag Im pretty sure your not gonna be able to afford gh. you were hurtin from losein 300 bucks...300 will get you about a months worth of gh and gh is worthless unless run for at least 5-6 months.......



Posted by: Just a guy

never mind Mudge... was a dumb ass question anywayz... I know your "credit line with Cleo ran out" lol so I will try to figure it out myself... i will do some more reading...
Here's a more educated question...

Is 2iu's a day worth anything?



Posted by: Just a guy

yeh i got it figured out rabbit... roughly 780$ for 6month supply at 2iu's a day

Found some for $2.20 a IU

And the reason i was complaining about 300$ is becuz... well its 300$ lol... I got money built back up now.. just Right then i could not spend an Extra 300$ for some EQ



Posted by: Power Rabbit

2-4 iu is the general dosage...many believe different gh kits have different effects so some people think some of the more popular brands like jintropin can be run at 2ius a day with good results....but gh good results are not gear good results...gains will be slow and very unpronounced



Posted by: Power Rabbit

if you buy in a ridiculous bulk you can usually get it cheaper... 2.2 a iu sounds like M** prices ...they are good people...if its them and you have a good hunk of cash ask about bulk priceing...think its not bulk till your in the 12 month supply ballpark



Posted by: Just a guy

ouch... yeh if they bumped it down to 1$ a IU i could do it... but thats cheap.



Posted by: Just a guy

Check your PM's rabbit



Posted by: gr81

I wouldn't bother running just 2 ius personally, I believe you need to be at least 4-8 iu's/day for about a year to really reap the benefits. Run it with educated doses of slin and even mild anabolics and you will be set.



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

GH is for rich people..lol...not po boys like me



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Just a guy
Is 2iu's a day worth anything?
Hell yes it is, I was going to do 2iu ED myself. If I do jump on it wont be for another 2 months probably, I want to try and find some kexing and compare prices.

2-3iu is what is recommended for first timers, and even that is enough to bring on side effects in many people. If the kit is mixed poorly or not fridged then the results will be poor, the GH can become discolored from it.

Anyhow, dont order more than 3 kits from overseas is what I hear.



Posted by: BCC

Quote:
Originally posted by Mudge

Anyhow, dont order more than 3 kits from overseas is what I hear.
From someone that just lost 600iu's, I agree. I almost wouldn't purchase any at all overseas.



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

Quote:
Originally posted by BCC
From someone that just lost 600iu's, I agree. I almost wouldn't purchase any at all overseas.
Damn that hurts. Sorry to hear that.



Posted by: 2BigGunz

Quote:
Originally posted by Just a guy
<sigh> my gaps between cycles are 2-3 weeks... i gotta stop that shit. Do you think GH would be a good choice for me for bridging mudge? PRobably not because i heard that GH was for the big boys... and this is only my 3rd cycle.
2-3 week gap's ouchhhhhhhhhh ! that cant be right !



Posted by: Just a guy

well i get blood work and i come out normal but i still feel guilty for not doing a proper recovery.

But it was well worth it... When i get a scanner or Web camera u will see this transformation that went on in 8 or 9 months...



Posted by: Just a guy

when u say 3 kits.... what u meen? So i wouldnt want to order ALL of my GH at one time eh?



Posted by: BCC

Quote:
Originally posted by TrojanMan60563
Damn that hurts. Sorry to hear that.
Secretly I'm glad I lost it. I don't need to be using it yet.



Posted by: Just a guy

good golly brother... Glad?? man i would have sat on it or somethin... But I understand u looking to be positive so i guess.... Im glad its Lost too!!



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Just a guy
when u say 3 kits.... what u meen? So i wouldnt want to order ALL of my GH at one time eh?
I mean 3GH kits, the kits I look at are 100iu. There is someone pimping GH in vials up to 600iu for a low price, but I dont have $100,000 in chemistry equipment or training to prepare it.



Posted by: Just a guy

check your mail mudge



Posted by: Power Rabbit

if i was gonna run anything id get ahold of some gensci igf...



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

I wouldn't even think of doing GH yet. Besides I have not done my homework on it, and I wouldn't want to just get any ol brand. I typically only want the best and that probably means more $$$.



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally posted by Power Rabbit
if i was gonna run anything id get ahold of some gensci igf...
Are you talking LR3 IGF-1 or hGH? There is Long rhGH in 22.5iu kits, a shot bi-weekly or even monthly for those on a budget.

I haven't seen anyone get results from LR3 IGF-1 that really sound comparable to GH, some people even get stuff thats already bad by the time it gets to them (yellowed sollution).



Posted by: Mudge

This P-GH feedback is killing me.

Quote:
Originally posted by JACKDAROIDER
Ok, after taking PGH consistantly, my father noticed such a leaning out effect that he had me buy him some. My pops been on it for a while now, and recently went to his doctor for his physical. While he was there he had bloodwork done. Listen to this shit.......
First off the doc was amazed at how he was taking it. Made him a bit weary, but since were talking about my crazy biker dad, it did'nt suprise him a bit that he would inj. a product technically made for "oral use"
First: His doctor could not believe how good he looked, but what really suprised him was his bloodwork. My father has had genetically high cholesterol all his life. He's been on Lipitor, diets, etc, but has always had higher readings. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE THE READINGS CAME BACK NORMAL ON THE HDL AND LDL!!! He even keeps raving how energetic he feels etc. Well, after all these positive results, his doctor now wants to try it! Amazing product. Seems to be antiaging too.
My pops is talking to his physicain to see if he wants to quote publically his findings based on my dads bloodwork. Mr. U now has a physician backing this stuff! Incredible. Hopefully we will be able to publically show these results, but my father wants to make sure it is ok with him before he does it. It's the grey area sub-q thing.
Thought you guys would like to read this.




Posted by: Just a guy

Quote:
Originally posted by Mudge
This P-GH feedback is killing me.

Man thats bullshit... People get tricked into shit allll the time... You ever seen some of these Ad's for SDI-LAB stuff?? Its unreal what they say will happen with PH's.



Posted by: Mudge

Its not a pro-hormone. Some of the people who have used it I trust.



Posted by: Just a guy

so your sayin that stuff really works?



Posted by: Power Rabbit

Quote:
Originally posted by Mudge
Are you talking LR3 IGF-1 or hGH? There is Long rhGH in 22.5iu kits, a shot bi-weekly or even monthly for those on a budget.

I haven't seen anyone get results from LR3 IGF-1 that really sound comparable to GH, some people even get stuff thats already bad by the time it gets to them (yellowed sollution).

ya gensci has released a slick LR3 IGF-1 kit...it looks tight...i will definately run that some time in the future



Posted by: Just a guy

i cant find nothing on Gensci... like a website or anything.



Posted by: Just a guy

so p-gh is better than that Lr3 right? Well.. where is a good place to get p-gh... its legal so i can ask right?



Posted by: Mudge

Better than LR3 what, IGF-1? What exactly is "better?"

www.universalkits.com has P-GH.



Posted by: Supermans Daddy

Quote:
Man thats bullshit... People get tricked into shit allll the time... You ever seen some of these Ad's for SDI-LAB stuff?? Its unreal what they say will happen with PH's.
JAG, if you really wanna laugh your ass off,read some of Jeff Summers claims. Now THAT is BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!! His rap is his shit is BETTER than real juice. He's on that " other level". ha ha ha ha!



Posted by: Mudge

Good ol' Bart. I heard he scammed some folks before he "went clean" and started his supplement company. He nuked his roid board a few months back as well.



Posted by: Power Rabbit

Quote:
Originally posted by Just a guy
i cant find nothing on Gensci... like a website or anything.

chineese company...makes jintropin ...arguebly one of the best GH brands there is



Posted by: Mudge

The only bad thing, Jin is only good for 4 days after reconstitution, making a 600ml vial completely worthless to someone without a lot of equipment and lab training.



Posted by: Supermans Daddy

I've been bump'n "humatrope" by Lilly I brought a bunch back from Hollywood. What do you guys think about that brand? I got no knowledge on any other brands because it's been tha only type that I've always had. I've dosed kinda on tha low side cuz Mudge once sprikled me bout get'n bloated guts from extreme use.



Posted by: Mudge

Dont know if many people on the boards have used it because I haven't seen the name mentioned hardly at all, Somatropin maybe which I believe is also American.

Mostly people go for Chinese because its far cheaper.



Posted by: Supermans Daddy

Much Thanks to ya Mudge . You're still Bommba Dum Ba ( Jamaican slang meaning: one with great knowledge) Peace and Love



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