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Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Sapphire
I am waiting... come and get me, Big Fella
Don't tempt me!



Posted by: Randy

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Originally Posted by Sapphire
Ahhhhh no. I don't think Diesel would like that.
We'll just make this our little secret

But he doesn't mind this >>> The only thing I see different is IM's thong is white I would say you have a very understanding and trusting boyfriend.
Me... I wouldn't let you out of my site. I would be like Tank and tie you up to the bed



Or this >>>>





Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Don't tempt me!
Been there, done that.



Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by Randy
We'll just make this our little secret

But he doesn't mind this >>> The only thing I see different is IM's thong is white I would say you have a very understanding and trusting boyfriend.
Me... I wouldn't let you out of my site. I would be like Tank and tie you up to the bed



Or this >>>>

What are you trying to say Randy, if I was your girlfriend you wouldn't trust me?!
Oh and Diesel DOES tie me up to the bed... with my silk panties!



Posted by: Randy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
What are you trying to say Randy, if I was your girlfriend you wouldn't trust me?!
Oh and Diesel DOES tie me up to the bed... with my silk panties!
Of course I would trust you my darlin.....It's all the other perverts out there I wouldn't trust



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Sapphire
Been there, done that.
True, true. What an idiot I am



Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by Randy
Of course I would trust you my darlin.....It's all the other perverts out there I wouldn't trust
Oh I see... the OTHER perverts.
Seriously Diesel trusts me completely and I trust him completely. He knows I am devoted to him, as far as I am concerned he is the only man in the world. He also knows I am very outgoing and a bit adventurous , shall we say, he LOVES that. ... so where is my IM thong??



Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by gopro
True, true. What an idiot I am
Ceste le vie.



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Sapphire
Ceste le vie.
Oh great, talking dirty to me now...and in another language!



Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by gopro
Oh great, talking dirty to me now...and in another language!
Tu estas loco!!



Posted by: Randy

Diesel's really going to get jealous now



Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by Randy
Diesel's really going to get jealous now
Why?? 'Cause of me and GP? Nah... we are the bestest of buds and just joking around.



Posted by: Randy

yeah yeah...I've heard that before



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Sapphire
Why?? 'Cause of me and GP? Nah... we are the bestest of buds and just joking around.




Posted by: Randy





Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by gopro




Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Sapphire




Posted by: Randy





Posted by: Sapphire





Posted by: ALIENEGYPT

I hate to interrupt these proceedings...But, I am having trouble with Back exercises and I thought GoPro and the gang could help me...I am more concerned with overall form than any particular exercise...Let me give you a little insight...I am 5'10", 170 lbs...My workout out weights on Power Week are around 85 lbs./Flat Dumbbells for Chest, 225lbs/free squats for Legs, and 135 military presses on Shoulder day, just to show you my average strength level...I have made a very big effort to concentrate on my back, and in doing so trying not to incorporate rear delts and biceps...My Lat Pulldowns are down to around 90 lbs, and T-bar is around one 45 Plate...Here is my problem (thanks for bearing with me)...I am not feeling any contraction or burn in my back...My weights are down...I am not seeing any growth, while the rest of me is gaining...Do I have an overly weak back, or am I missing the boat...Should there be a bit of swaying and jerking on back day...I watch old tapes of Arnold, Ken Waller, those guys seem to have had awful form (but big backs)...I will experiment from time to time with upping the weights and using momentum, but it results in sore bi's and rear delts in two days, and it seems the momentum aids my lats rather than strength...So, as you can see I am a bit lost...I have fooled around with form vs. weight for about a year, I just don't want to fall victim to slow growth due to bad form...Trouble is, I seem to be getting there with good intentions any way...Thanks in advance for help, I really appreciate it...

Andrew



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by ALIENEGYPT
I hate to interrupt these proceedings...But, I am having trouble with Back exercises and I thought GoPro and the gang could help me...I am more concerned with overall form than any particular exercise...Let me give you a little insight...I am 5'10", 170 lbs...My workout out weights on Power Week are around 85 lbs./Flat Dumbbells for Chest, 225lbs/free squats for Legs, and 135 military presses on Shoulder day, just to show you my average strength level...I have made a very big effort to concentrate on my back, and in doing so trying not to incorporate rear delts and biceps...My Lat Pulldowns are down to around 90 lbs, and T-bar is around one 45 Plate...Here is my problem (thanks for bearing with me)...I am not feeling any contraction or burn in my back...My weights are down...I am not seeing any growth, while the rest of me is gaining...Do I have an overly weak back, or am I missing the boat...Should there be a bit of swaying and jerking on back day...I watch old tapes of Arnold, Ken Waller, those guys seem to have had awful form (but big backs)...I will experiment from time to time with upping the weights and using momentum, but it results in sore bi's and rear delts in two days, and it seems the momentum aids my lats rather than strength...So, as you can see I am a bit lost...I have fooled around with form vs. weight for about a year, I just don't want to fall victim to slow growth due to bad form...Trouble is, I seem to be getting there with good intentions any way...Thanks in advance for help, I really appreciate it...

Andrew
This is kind of a tough one since I am not able to view your form in person to see where you may be going wrong. The whole perfect form with less weight vs. some cheating with more weight is a complex and confusing issue b/c like you said, there are many guys that cheat like crazy but have awesome backs and vice versa. Heck, the best back in bodybuilding belongs to Ronnie Coleman and he uses a ton of weight, but very "loose" form...while years ago there was a guy in pro bodybuilding named Phil Williams and he also had a tremendous and detailed back, but trained it very lightly with extremely perfect form.

For me I seem to favor different "types" of form for almost every movement I do. For some exercises, I always need to go slow and use textbook form with lighter weights, and for others I only feel it if I use max weights and less than perfect form. To put this in perspective for back training, my pulldowns and seated rows are done much lighter and with precise form, but my rowing movements are done much more loosely.

That said, I can only offer these tips on getting the most out of your back movements...

-to cut down on bicep involvement use a "false" grip on back exercises...this means the thumbs should be on the same side of the bar as the other fingers.
-use lifting straps to reinforce your grip so the forearms don't fail first.
-get a full lat stretch on every rep before pulling the weight.
-as you pull the weight make sure that your back is arched and your chest is out.
-squeeze the shoulder blades together at the contraction point.
-utilize different grips on pulldowns and rows...overhand, underhand, and parallel grip...see which one allows you to feel your back more.

Hope this helped!



Posted by: ALIENEGYPT

Thanks GoPro!...Yes I know this is hard to diagnose when you cannot observe form, but I believe the theory with back training has a lot to do with my questions...When I hit back on Friday, I will be sure to concentrate on the tips you've given me...Thanks for the info!...I also need to brush up on the actual anatomy of the muscle group, that way I know what sections of back I am targeting with each exercise...Kind of like where I should feel the "burn"...Any ideas on where to start?...Back is a big muscle group, I know it is much more complex than just lats and traps...On pulldowns and seated rows, are you supposed to feel the lats contracting and pulling the weight at the very start of the exercise?...Or, do you feel it in your rear delts and bi's first?...In effect, do they get the ball rollin'...Thanks again for the help my friend...If I'm in Florida or your ever in Texas, we'll hook up a back day...

Andrew



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by ALIENEGYPT
Thanks GoPro!...Yes I know this is hard to diagnose when you cannot observe form, but I believe the theory with back training has a lot to do with my questions...When I hit back on Friday, I will be sure to concentrate on the tips you've given me...Thanks for the info!...I also need to brush up on the actual anatomy of the muscle group, that way I know what sections of back I am targeting with each exercise...Kind of like where I should feel the "burn"...Any ideas on where to start?...Back is a big muscle group, I know it is much more complex than just lats and traps...On pulldowns and seated rows, are you supposed to feel the lats contracting and pulling the weight at the very start of the exercise?...Or, do you feel it in your rear delts and bi's first?...In effect, do they get the ball rollin'...Thanks again for the help my friend...If I'm in Florida or your ever in Texas, we'll hook up a back day...

Andrew
Glad to help Andrew. Good idea to study the anatomy of the back as to learn the function of the lats, traps, rhomboids, teres, and erectors will help clue you in on how each exercise affects these muscle groups.

And if we ever meet up, it would be my pleasure to hit some back with ya



Posted by: Randy

"An erector"...... Now gopro, this is a family chat....careful



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Randy
"An erector"...... Now gopro, this is a family chat....careful
Sorry, I was thinking of Sapphy when I mentioned that muscle



Posted by: Randy

Welllll ok, then you are forgiven.. Sapphy can make muscle growth work in mysterious ways.



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Randy
Welllll ok, then you are forgiven.. Sapphy can make muscle growth work in mysterious ways.
Actually, its not that mysterious, LOL!



Posted by: Rissole

Yep, the blood goes in..... don't come out.... (i could go on but) "this is a family chat"



Posted by: Randy

Rissole...

I think the point is well defined (just take my word for it)



Posted by: Sapphire

I think you boy are discussing MY favorite muscle!!

Oh yeah... Happy Birthday a little early Randy!! Sunday right???



Posted by: Randy

Yes, Thanks Sapphire.....



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Randy
Yes, Thanks Sapphire.....
Happy belated B-Day linkmaster!



Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by Randy
Yes, Thanks Sapphire.....
You're welcome Randy!! Have a good birthday??



Posted by: patbuck

Hi guys, 9 weeks now since I started with this routine.
Pretty good routine, lots of strenght gained.

I took one week off, now I'm starting over.

What should I change?
Can I just keep the same program for an other 9 weeks? or should I change everything?
I have change a few exercise I didn't like, change a few thinks here and there. But I'm planning on keeping the same split for an other 9 weeks.
What do you think?



Posted by: Tank316

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Originally Posted by gopro
Happy belated B-Day linkmaster!
Same here Randy!!!! hope it was good !!!!1



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by patbuck
Hi guys, 9 weeks now since I started with this routine.
Pretty good routine, lots of strenght gained.

I took one week off, now I'm starting over.

What should I change?
Can I just keep the same program for an other 9 weeks? or should I change everything?
I have change a few exercise I didn't like, change a few thinks here and there. But I'm planning on keeping the same split for an other 9 weeks.
What do you think?
The main thing to try and do is to be progressive now...use heavier weights for the same reps or the same weights for more reps. Try to generate more intensity and to be even more focused on every rep.

You can also change a few more of the exercises, or perhaps the order of exercises.

But like I said, no matter what, try and be progressive!

Good luck!



Posted by: Randy

Thanks Sapphire, Tank, and Gopro .
Damn... now I have to add another slash.
The years sure go by fast don't they...


Now as for you Rissole.. Way to go once again... I can see you really expressed the joy of your win in your avatar
Boy! with that look of excitment I would think that not only did you win the event that you won the lottery as well But you definately worked hard for it and deserved that moment...(Great Job!!!!!!)





Posted by: patbuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
The main thing to try and do is to be progressive now...use heavier weights for the same reps or the same weights for more reps. Try to generate more intensity and to be even more focused on every rep.

You can also change a few more of the exercises, or perhaps the order of exercises.

But like I said, no matter what, try and be progressive!

Good luck!
Ok Thanks gopro, but I'm always doing progressive I think. I keep a log of each training and I always try to go up each time. If I go up too much and lose the form, I'll do a few rep with this new heavier weight and finish up the set with lighter. Let's say on an exercise of "3 x 6-8" ex:Benching, if I did 225lbs the previous time I was doing it on Power week, then I try 230lbs, l'll try to do 6 or 8 if I can only do 4 I will put lighter and finish up to 8.

I guest that's what you mean by progressive?



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by patbuck
Ok Thanks gopro, but I'm always doing progressive I think. I keep a log of each training and I always try to go up each time. If I go up too much and lose the form, I'll do a few rep with this new heavier weight and finish up the set with lighter. Let's say on an exercise of "3 x 6-8" ex:Benching, if I did 225lbs the previous time I was doing it on Power week, then I try 230lbs, l'll try to do 6 or 8 if I can only do 4 I will put lighter and finish up to 8.

I guest that's what you mean by progressive?
Yup, thats it, and as long as you continue doing that, then my program will continue to work optimally, as when you add progression with the variation that P/RR/S provides you have a continuous formula for growth.



Posted by: bdmagnum

GoPro and anyone else with advice,
I want to make sure I understand P/RR/S correctly. I'm 41, 6'6", 240 lbs with about 15% bf. I have been lifting pretty consistanly for about a year now with an occasional week off here and there. I am currently at plateau and not noticing any increase in strength or size and want to try something new and different, hence P/RR/S.

From what I read, P/RR/P/S/P/RR/P/S for the first eight weeks would be ideal for bulk and strength. During the Power week, each exercise should be 2-3 sets at 4-6 reps. During the Rep Range week, each exercise should be 2-3 sets at 6-8, 8-10 and 10-12 reps. And of course, the Shock week would consist of supersets and dropsets.

My routine would be as follows:

Mon- off
Tue- Chest, Delts, Abs
wed- Quads, Hams, Calves
Thu- off
Fri- Lats, Traps, Low Back, Abs
Sat- Bis, Tris, Forearms, Calves
Sun- off

Now for my questions.

1. Is there any advantage or disadvantage to reversing the order (Tue- Bis, Tris, etc.; Wed- Lats, Traps, etc.)? I would like to finish the week with chest .

2. I usually ride the exercise bike for 30 minutes prior to lifting. Is this good or bad and should I still do this?

3. After the eight week cycle, do I start it over again or take a week off?

4. Alot of examples state 2-3 sets. Would it be better to just go with 3 sets for everything or 2 sets for power and 3 sets Range Rep (with 6-8, 8-10, 10-12 reps) for simplicity?

5. Does the exercises in the links cover all the muscle groups in the routine?

That's all I can think of now. Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Thank you



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by bdmagnum
GoPro and anyone else with advice,
I want to make sure I understand P/RR/S correctly. I'm 41, 6'6", 240 lbs with about 15% bf. I have been lifting pretty consistanly for about a year now with an occasional week off here and there. I am currently at plateau and not noticing any increase in strength or size and want to try something new and different, hence P/RR/S.

From what I read, P/RR/P/S/P/RR/P/S for the first eight weeks would be ideal for bulk and strength. During the Power week, each exercise should be 2-3 sets at 4-6 reps. During the Rep Range week, each exercise should be 2-3 sets at 6-8, 8-10 and 10-12 reps. And of course, the Shock week would consist of supersets and dropsets.

My routine would be as follows:

Mon- off
Tue- Chest, Delts, Abs
wed- Quads, Hams, Calves
Thu- off
Fri- Lats, Traps, Low Back, Abs
Sat- Bis, Tris, Forearms, Calves
Sun- off

Now for my questions.

1. Is there any advantage or disadvantage to reversing the order (Tue- Bis, Tris, etc.; Wed- Lats, Traps, etc.)? I would like to finish the week with chest .

2. I usually ride the exercise bike for 30 minutes prior to lifting. Is this good or bad and should I still do this?

3. After the eight week cycle, do I start it over again or take a week off?

4. Alot of examples state 2-3 sets. Would it be better to just go with 3 sets for everything or 2 sets for power and 3 sets Range Rep (with 6-8, 8-10, 10-12 reps) for simplicity?

5. Does the exercises in the links cover all the muscle groups in the routine?

That's all I can think of now. Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Thank you
1-The bodypart split is not set in stone and can be adjusted to the individual. If you wish to finish the week with chest, come up with a split that will accomodate this. You also don't HAVE to put chest and delts together and could do chest/tris or chest/bis instead. This is up to the individual (or me if I am training the person personally )

2-I don't believe in doing aerobic training before weight training. This just saps energy in my opinion, and will hinder the muscle building process. 5-10 minutes to warm up is ok, but beyond this is a negative. If you are looking to better control bodyfat, do cardio after, not before, training.

3-After the 8 week cycle above I would either stay out of the gym for a week or if thats too uncomfortable (some people just can't do this), maybe do a really light week with maybe 2 whole-body workouts just to get a pump.

4-As far as sets go don't exceed 10 sets for any large bodypart or 7-8 sets for a smaller bodypart.

5-I don't know if there is anything for traps, abs and calves in the basic routine posted but people have asked me about these and I have posted up routines for them in other places.

*Note: For rep range week the #s are 7-9, 10-12, 13-15.



Posted by: bdmagnum

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Originally Posted by gopro
1-The bodypart split is not set in stone and can be adjusted to the individual. If you wish to finish the week with chest, come up with a split that will accomodate this. You also don't HAVE to put chest and delts together and could do chest/tris or chest/bis instead. This is up to the individual (or me if I am training the person personally )

2-I don't believe in doing aerobic training before weight training. This just saps energy in my opinion, and will hinder the muscle building process. 5-10 minutes to warm up is ok, but beyond this is a negative. If you are looking to better control bodyfat, do cardio after, not before, training.

3-After the 8 week cycle above I would either stay out of the gym for a week or if thats too uncomfortable (some people just can't do this), maybe do a really light week with maybe 2 whole-body workouts just to get a pump.

4-As far as sets go don't exceed 10 sets for any large bodypart or 7-8 sets for a smaller bodypart.

5-I don't know if there is anything for traps, abs and calves in the basic routine posted but people have asked me about these and I have posted up routines for them in other places.

*Note: For rep range week the #s are 7-9, 10-12, 13-15.
Thanks GoPro,
I appreciate the info and will keep you informed. Today, I'll start with 10 mins on the exercise bike, followed by the "Arms" workout and finish with 20 mins on the bike. I'm getting excited in trying something different and look forward to the results, heard nothing but good things about the routine, can't wait.



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by bdmagnum
Thanks GoPro,
I appreciate the info and will keep you informed. Today, I'll start with 10 mins on the exercise bike, followed by the "Arms" workout and finish with 20 mins on the bike. I'm getting excited in trying something different and look forward to the results, heard nothing but good things about the routine, can't wait.
Good luck!



Posted by: bdmagnum

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Originally Posted by Sapphire
Good luck!
Thanks,
I just wanted to say that I have learned a great deal from everyone on this site. Once again, Thank you for all the valuable information .



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by bdmagnum
Thanks,
I just wanted to say that I have learned a great deal from everyone on this site. Once again, Thank you for all the valuable information .
you are more than welcome...best of luck to you!



Posted by: Tank316

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3-After the 8 week cycle above I would either stay out of the gym for a week or if thats too uncomfortable (some people just can't do this), maybe do a really light week with maybe 2 whole-body workouts just to get a pump
Gp would be refering to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: ALIENEGYPT

Hey GoPro-

Is there a P/RR/S nutrition thread on this forum?...I haven't found anything yet, however, I seem to make searches difficult...

Andrew



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank316
Gp would be refering to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, we know that taking the gym away from Tankster is like taking sex away from Sapphster...simply unacceptable!



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALIENEGYPT
Hey GoPro-

Is there a P/RR/S nutrition thread on this forum?...I haven't found anything yet, however, I seem to make searches difficult...

Andrew
There is no "P/RR/S" diet, although you may have just given me an idea



Posted by: bdmagnum

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Originally Posted by gopro
Well, we know that taking the gym away from Tankster is like taking sex away from Sapphster...simply unacceptable!
I would think taking sex away from anyone is unacceptable



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Well, we know that taking the gym away from Tankster is like taking sex away from Sapphster...simply unacceptable!
what is all this talk about taking sex away from ME!! That is not even remotely humorous!! My word... GP you of all people should know I would never joke about such a horror, life without sex!!
Please never utter my name and the phrase "no sex" in the same sentence again.



Posted by: Tank316

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Originally Posted by gopro
Well, we know that taking the gym away from Tankster is like taking sex away from Sapphster...simply unacceptable!

A no sex Saph.
***Tank passes out***



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by bdmagnum
I would think taking sex away from anyone is unacceptable
As you can see from the post just above from Sapphy...with her, its on a whole other level



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Tank316

A no sex Saph.
***Tank passes out***
And to awaken his good buddy Tank, gopro waves a slice of pizza by his nose...



Posted by: ALIENEGYPT

Hey GoPro-

Yes, I seem to remember you giving some help to forum members on their diet in a few threads...Wasn't sure if there was an official outline...I say go for it!...A P/RR/S diet would be great!...

Andrew



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALIENEGYPT
Hey GoPro-

Yes, I seem to remember you giving some help to forum members on their diet in a few threads...Wasn't sure if there was an official outline...I say go for it!...A P/RR/S diet would be great!...

Andrew
Yeah, I have posted my own diet and help others with their's on occassion here at IM, but have not put together a P/RR/S plan, which could be an interesting scenario.



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank316

A no sex Saph.
***Tank passes out***
And to awaken Tankie.. Saph waves her in his face!!



Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by gopro
As you can see from the post just above from Sapphy...with her, its on a whole other level




Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Sapphire
And to awaken Tankie.. Saph waves her in his face!!
Yeah, that would awaken more than one part of his body...



Posted by: Tank316

Whats funny about this is Gp waves a slice of pizza, and Saphie is shaking a piz'za in front of me!!!!!!what to do what to do?????



Posted by: Sapphire

Well? What do you want more PIZZA or ????



Posted by: Tank316





Posted by: Sapphire



Use the Team GOPRO in my sig!!



Posted by: Randy

I want more while I eat pizza
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
Well? What do you want more PIZZA or ????




Posted by: Randy

Doesn't this make you want to lick those letters off those leggs





Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Tank316
With a pizza right on top...NOW we are talking heaven!



Posted by: Randy

Hey, those where my thoughts
Well that's ok, I will share the pizza, but the is all mine



Posted by: Randy

Besides Gopro, you already have a girlfriend





Posted by: Sapphire


RANDY!!! I AM LAUGHING SO HARD NOW MY EYES ARE TEARING!!!!!


You are hysterical!!



Posted by: Sapphire

I was browsing other body building sites... and found THIS!!

Who is this GP???? I thought I was your numero uno client????








Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Randy
Besides Gopro, you already have a girlfriend

Well, her T-shirt is rather accurate!



Posted by: Randy

Yeah I was thinking the same thing



Posted by: Randy

I thought you might like that sapp



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Originally Posted by Sapphire

RANDY!!! I AM LAUGHING SO HARD NOW MY EYES ARE TEARING!!!!!


You are hysterical!!




Posted by: Sapphire

Well I did like it, you are funny! Aren't you gonna use the TEAM GOPRO that SF sent me??? The one in my sig? You are the official link master!



Posted by: Randy

Awwww thank you Sapphire, you are so good to me .

As for your logo...I would take you up on that offer, but since I am the link master, my Gopro letters have to represent a link.

Have you ever clicked it, the associated song helps to support the Gopro Name and what it stands for



Posted by: Sapphire

How about using this pic in your sig???



Posted by: Randy

I like this one much better





Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by Randy
I like this one much better

Ok so use that one!



Posted by: Randy

Now what where you saying there Sapphire?



Posted by: gwcaton

Hey P/RR/S experts. On my shock week - chest I was doing :
Cable crossovers and Incline bench as super sets and
Incline flyes and dips as super sets.

I blew a cable and am not in a big hurry to replace it so was wondering what your recommendation would be on an exercise to replace the Cable crossovers ? Hmmmmm guess I could do use just the one cable . Nah !!!!

Thanks,
Gary



Posted by: Sapphire

How about flat flyes instead of cable crossovers?



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Now what where you saying there Sapphire?
randy.. I have to say I am Very flattered having MY legs in YOUR sig! VERY.VERY Flattered!! Thank you. You are a sweetie!!



Posted by: Randy

As long as your on top Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
How about flat flyes instead of cable crossovers?




Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
As long as your on top Sapphire
Hi HUN!!!



Posted by: Randy

Wow that was a fast reply.....Hi sapphy how are you? Hope you're having a good weekend.



Posted by: Sapphire

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Originally Posted by Randy
Wow that was a fast reply.....Hi sapphy how are you? Hope you're having a good weekend.
Hi Randy!

I am good. Yup the weekend is great, but it's back to work tommorow! Oh well How bout u?

I had a great shock back and butt wo today... supersets are



Posted by: Randy

Glad to hear it Sapphire .
Me? Well I'm doing great thanks for askin.
Today is Tri and Bi day for me and am about ready to begin.

Now as far as your workout...better be careful of those supersets, they can sure bite .

Now I have always wondered about this smiley... It is supposed to be crying, but why does it have a mustache?



Posted by: PeterGunz

I just started P/RR/S for the first time with my brother. I have been lifting for about 5-6 years and this program is really hard for me to stick to. I have never done a program with such low volume. Is it ok to change, for example, the bicep workout to the same exercises but do 4 sets of each instead of only low single digits on the RR week?

Also, sometimes I like to throw in an extra chest or leg workout during the week, would this be a no-no in this program?



Posted by: Randy

Peter,

Gopro provides guidelines for the p/rr/s program, but this does not mean it is law. You most certainly can add and embellish the program to fit your specific needs. Most everyone modifies it in some way shape and form to fit their personal needs.



Posted by: PeterGunz

awsome. I'm excited to try this out



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterGunz
awsome. I'm excited to try this out
Just remember that muscle is built on intensity, not volume.



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Just remember that muscle is built on intensity, not volume.
hmmmmm, i like this quote!!



Posted by: Randy

But I still wouldn't trade it for my chicken quote






Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank316
hmmmmm, i like this quote!!
LOL...you always have!



Posted by: Sapphire

That is a hard thing to realize.. I had that problem too. BUT I learned. Chris still doesn't get it, he does 5 sets of EVERYTHING ALWAYS.



Posted by: Sapphire

Hey Randy... how do like this tatoo, since you said you didn't like my leg tat??



Posted by: Randy

Saff...

You must have me confused with someone else. How could I say I didn't like your leg tat when I'm using it in my signature?

But now that you mention it, I like the new one much better. Can I trade?



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Saff...

You must have me confused with someone else. How could I say I didn't like your leg tat when I'm using it in my signature?

But now that you mention it, I like the new one much better. Can I trade?
Sure you can trade...

BUT you said in a thread about tats that you would think my legs were "hot" if team gopro wasn't tatooed on the... remember???



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
Hey Randy... how do like this tatoo, since you said you didn't like my leg tat??
heehee that was me This one is MUCH better



Posted by: Randy

Oh yeah, but that was in a different context.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
Sure you can trade...


BUT you said in a thread about tats that you would think my legs were "hot" if team gopro wasn't tatooed on the... remember???




Posted by: jaim91

What percent of my one rep max should I be using for power week? rep range? shock?



Posted by: Randy

Read THIS Jaim91

This article defines various methods as outlined by gopro, and the team of course . Don't make it harder than it is by dealing with percentages, basically just start with your heaviest rep and work from there depending on which method you select. Although you can determine the percentages yourself if you like.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaim91
What percent of my one rep max should I be using for power week? rep range? shock?




Posted by: jaim91

Fair enough...though it would be nice. Thanks linkmaster



Posted by: Randy

The pleasure is all mine Jaim91.



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaim91
Fair enough...though it would be nice. Thanks linkmaster
Sapphire keeps an awesome journal on P/RR/Sh. plus posting her meals, that gives some sort of guideline[depending on your needs of course]



Posted by: Sapphire

You are welcome to read my journal I post my WOs and diet... BUT I am not cutting. My diet is more a maintance diet... I want to build muscles without getting fat. Don't we all , right??

BTW GP is my coach He designs my workouts specifically for MY needs... my goals.. my build.



Posted by: jaim91

is there a link to your diet journal somewhere?



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
You are welcome to read my journal I post my WOs and diet... BUT I am not cutting. My diet is more a maintance diet... I want to build muscles without getting fat. Don't we all , right??

BTW GP is my coach He designs my workouts specifically for MY needs... my goals.. my build.
Morning Darling

Would you happen to have any "Before" pics ? Before you started working out ? or Before P/RR/S ?

jaim http://ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=31684



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwcaton
Morning Darling

Would you happen to have any "Before" pics ? Before you started working out ? or Before P/RR/S ?

jaim http://ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=31684
Well.. not really. I didn't take any.. I guess I should have. I have regular pics of when I was way too skinny. I could probably scan those. I used to only run.. alot. I didn't eat right. I weighed 112 pounds! 10 pounds less than I do now.
Gp can confirm this.. I was never fat... just sorta skinny, untoned looking. You know what I mean. Chris tells me he see the changes in my body since we met, a little over a year ago.
When I first started with GP, he didn't have me on P/RR/S, he didn't get me into that until we worked out about a year.
I will look for some pics... for YOU.

And Jaim91.... check out my journal and ask any questions you want.



Posted by: ate50eggs

Hey guys...I am pretty new to this stuff and have some questions and was wondering if you could help. I was looking at the P/RR/S cycle and this training split:

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
My training split is changed every 3 P/RR/S cycles, or every 9 weeks or so. My current, and favorite split is:

monday: chest/delts/abs
tuesday: quads/hams/calves
wednesday: off
thursday: lats/traps/low back/abs
friday: bis/tris/forearms/calves
saturday: 0ff
sunday: off
What I was wondering is which excercises correspond to lats, traps, lower back and forearms as they don't have a seperate section in the article. Thanks for the help!

Jonah



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by ate50eggs
Hey guys...I am pretty new to this stuff and have some questions and was wondering if you could help. I was looking at the P/RR/S cycle and this training split:

What I was wondering is which excercises correspond to lats, traps, lower back and forearms as they don't have a seperate section in the article. Thanks for the help!

Jonah
Jonah ,

check this out http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...&postcount=265

And this http://bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.htm



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
Well.. not really. I didn't take any.. I guess I should have. I have regular pics of when I was way too skinny. I could probably scan those. I used to only run.. alot. I didn't eat right. I weighed 112 pounds! 10 pounds less than I do now.
Gp can confirm this.. I was never fat... just sorta skinny, untoned looking. You know what I mean. Chris tells me he see the changes in my body since we met, a little over a year ago.
When I first started with GP, he didn't have me on P/RR/S, he didn't get me into that until we worked out about a year.
I will look for some pics... for YOU.

And Jaim91.... check out my journal and ask any questions you want.
You're the best !!!



Posted by: ate50eggs

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwcaton
Thanks a ton! Exactly what I was looking for!



Posted by: Sapphire

Cute AVI ate50eggs!!



Posted by: ate50eggs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
Cute AVI ate50eggs!!
Baby, I got a cute everything...



Posted by: Sapphire

Oh really???



Posted by: ate50eggs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
Oh really???
You betcha...if you need testimonials, lemme know



Posted by: gopro

Hey! Watch the "funny stuff" in my thread (unless I start it!).



Posted by: Sapphire

Sorry Gp!



Posted by: ate50eggs

So, I started this workout and the Twin Peak's Carb Cycling Part II for Bulking & Lifestyle about 18 days ago and have gone from around 222 lbs to 232 lbs. Not sure what my body fat percentage was before or now, but my abs are much more defined then they were...

10 lbs in 2 and a half weeks...does that seem right?

Not that I am complaining of course.



Posted by: Randy

Sapphy, what you going to be for Halloween?
Inquiry minds wanna know



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by ate50eggs
So, I started this workout and the Twin Peak's Carb Cycling Part II for Bulking & Lifestyle about 18 days ago and have gone from around 222 lbs to 232 lbs. Not sure what my body fat percentage was before or now, but my abs are much more defined then they were...

10 lbs in 2 and a half weeks...does that seem right?

Not that I am complaining of course.
I guess the combination of these two programs are just working significantly well for you! Keep it up!



Posted by: Randy

Should I add that bulking program to my links Gopro?

But I think he gained that amount so quickly by eating 50 eggs



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Sapphy, what you going to be for Halloween?
Inquiry minds wanna know
Not sure yet.... still trying to decide, any suggestions?

and Randy FYI Halloween is SOMEONE'S birthday.... not saying who, BUT it's not me and he's BIG and STRONG!!



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by ate50eggs
Baby, I got a cute everything...
One more... Well I hope so since you ARE a stud muffin!!



Posted by: Randy

HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY
GOPRO!!!




Posted by: Randy

I think you should be a sexy little devil...
This way I won't feel guilty for my thoughts about you



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY
GOPRO!!!
Wow, that was awesome, but I still have a couple of more weeks to hold onto my 35th year on this planet! But a HUGE thanks for my early B-Day post



Posted by: Randy

Sapphire just wants to make sure nobody forgets .
Isn't she such a good friend?

Don't know what to get you for your birthday though Gopro since it falls on Halloween... A cake or a pumkin


Randy



Posted by: gopro

Sapphire is the BEST!



Posted by: Sapphire

to my awesome coach!!!

Randy, get GP a pumpkin.. he won't eat cake.



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
to my awesome coach!!!

Randy, get GP a pumpkin.. he won't eat cake.
i bet he likes pie though!!!!!



Posted by: soxmuscle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank316
i bet he likes pie though!!!!!
I like pie.





Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally Posted by soxmuscle
I like pie.

oh yea!!!!!! i like pie also!!!!!




Posted by: Randy

Gopro will have to get his own pie...

I'm to busy trying to get myself a piece. (Of pie that is)



Posted by: Sapphire

Nope GP wouldn't try any pie either.



Posted by: Randy

I guess that would depend on the flavor of pie Sapphire



Posted by: gopro

On my birthday I will eat...trust me!!



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
On my birthday I will eat...trust me!!
Jamie doesn't count GP!!



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
Jamie doesn't count GP!!
But the friend she will bring home as a gift will...



Posted by: Rissole

Hey guys



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rissole
Hey guys
Hey Pete, computer probs fixed!!!



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
But the friend she will bring home as a gift will...
AND then unfortunately you will wake up!!!



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rissole
Hey guys
Hello HANDSOME!!



Posted by: Rissole

Pffft Yeah right....
The insurance company want a detailed list of what happened to my puter so the guy that i got it off has been givin me the run around. So i am getting a spare from him this weekend, that should help a bit.



Posted by: Rissole

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
Hello HANDSOME!!
grrrrrrrr..... hello sexy lady



Posted by: Randy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
AND then unfortunately you will wake up!!!
And then do it all over again

Was that Rissole I seen in here... Greetings my friend



Posted by: Rissole

Hello Randy, Love the new avi



Posted by: Randy

Thanks Rissole.... Sometimes I just have to let my hair down

Actually it's Gopros P/RR/S program... Somehow it's making my hair grow too



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Thanks Rissole.... Sometimes I just have to let my hair down

Actually it's Gopros P/RR/S program... Somehow it's making my hair grow too
Dude, that new TEAM GOPRO in your sig is freaking AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
And then do it all over again
Damn right my friend. I need a short nap after satisfying both women



Posted by: Randy

Doesn't it really suck though when you finally wake up?



Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Damn right my friend. I need a short nap after satisfying both women




Posted by: Randy

Thanks Gopro... I appreciate that. I wanted to use something HOT!
And if you click it you still get the motivating Rocky Theme
Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Dude, that new TEAM GOPRO in your sig is freaking AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Thanks Gopro... I appreciate that. I wanted to use something HOT!
And if you click it you still get the motivating Rocky Theme
So cool!



Posted by: Rissole

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
And if you click it you still get the motivating Rocky Theme
Ahhh yes.... that....



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Damn right my friend. I need a short nap after satisfying both women




Posted by: Randy



Come on Sapphire, let Gopro dream in peace
And when he's done dreamin he can hand a couple
0f those over to me ...

But wait, I don't want seconds



Posted by: Rissole

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
Ha ha.... i agree Saph....



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy


Come on Sapphire, let Gopro dream in peace
And when he's done dreamin he can hand a couple
0f those over to me ...

But wait, I don't want seconds

He's dreaming all right!



Posted by: Randy

Nothing wrong with that



Posted by: Rissole

Yeah... a blokes gotta dream ya know



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire
He's dreaming all right!
Don't doubt me...its already happened...twice!



Posted by: Randy

Yeah we know Gopro, but your dreams don't count buddy



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Yeah we know Gopro, but your dreams don't count buddy
Actually reality Randy...back a few years ago I had a "very open minded" girlfriend that "encouraged" that sort of thing. Man, I miss her!



Posted by: Sapphire

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Don't doubt me...its already happened...twice!

big deal, who hasn't??? College was a blast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapphire

big deal, who hasn't??? College was a blast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL...more like 1996-1998 in lovely San Diego California! Beautiful girl, beautiful place, beautiful attitude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Randy

But I'm closer



Posted by: KarlW

Gopro, I read through half the thread for the answer but decided it would be easier to ask considering how long this thread has become, ........sooo....apologies if the answer is already buried here somewhere.

In RR week,

Is it:

Set 1: 7-10 reps
Set 2: 11-15 reps
Set 3: 16-20 reps

(FOR EVERY EXERCISE?????) (I know you can do 4 sets also!)

OR Is it:

Main lifts (bench etc) Sets 1,2 and 3: 7-10 reps
secondary lifts sets 1,2 and 3 :11-15 reps
other lifts sets 1,2 and 3 16-20 reps


Basically what I'm asking is, in RR week do you vary the reps in every set for every exercise?

cheers
Karl



Posted by: Randy

Karl,

This should answer that question for you...

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...chmentid=16302

Most of gopros training material and information can be found in my links...



Posted by: KarlW

It says:

1. Set 1: Load your weight so that you can lift as heavy as possible to achieve 7-10 reps.
2. Set 2: Lower your weight so that you can lift as heavy as possible to achieve 11-15 reps.

3. Set 3: Lower your weight so that you can lift as heavy as possible to achieve 16- 20 reps.

OK sounds like I vary the reps for each set of every exercise. But Gopros notes at the start of this thread has:

CG weighted chin...2 x 6-8
- WG T-Bar row...2 x 8-10
- Dumbell row...2 x 10-12
- Pullover...2 x 12-15

So....within each exercise the reps stay the same????

Can you see the difference I'm talking about. May seem trivial but I'd like to know Gopros intent for the P/RR/S cycle.

Karl



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlW
It says:

1. Set 1: Load your weight so that you can lift as heavy as possible to achieve 7-10 reps.
2. Set 2: Lower your weight so that you can lift as heavy as possible to achieve 11-15 reps.

3. Set 3: Lower your weight so that you can lift as heavy as possible to achieve 16- 20 reps.

OK sounds like I vary the reps for each set of every exercise. But Gopros notes at the start of this thread has:

CG weighted chin...2 x 6-8
- WG T-Bar row...2 x 8-10
- Dumbell row...2 x 10-12
- Pullover...2 x 12-15

So....within each exercise the reps stay the same????

Can you see the difference I'm talking about. May seem trivial but I'd like to know Gopros intent for the P/RR/S cycle.

Karl
I see what you are asking, and with the basic RR program you want to use a specific rep range for each MOVEMENT. So, for chest it might be...

exercise #1: bench press...3 x 6-8
exercise #2: incline press...3 x 9-12
exercise #3: cable crossover...3 x 13-15

Now, I have advanced schemes as well for RR, which include more varied ranges and changing the range WITHIN THE SAME MOVEMENT, but for your purposes, do it like I wrote above.



Posted by: easyb

Hey GoPro, This sounds good, but I don't have access to a smith or cable crossover or a dip machine, so what could i sub in for those exercises that involve those machines? Also I have seen a couple of threads that oppose chest/tris on same day. That is what I currently do. I am wondering if I can still keep that for your program. Example I do a 4 day split: MON-chest/tri
Tues- back/bi
Wed-off
Thur-leg/ab
Fri-shoulder
can I keep this routine with p/rr/p/rr/s? many many Thanks



Posted by: Randy

Gopro, maybe you can modify my doc to clear up this confusion and maybe add reference to the advanced routines you're referring to as well?????

Well if you have time anyway.



Posted by: kimberlieeadie

What do you think of cardio work through out a weights program for someone who is training for fatloss? or is it more benificial to leave cardio at the end of a weights program or different day altogether.



Posted by: kimberlieeadie

What do you think of cardio training through out a weights pogram for fatloss? or is it more benificial to leave cardio at the end of a program or a different day altogether.



Posted by: Decosta

Hi, newbie here..

Finally got around to doing P/RR/S and started off today with Power on the tris, biceps and forearms.

It was more of an experiment, trying to find out what weights I could handle, but I ended up doing.

Triceps

Cable One Arm Tricep Extension
Cable Rope Overhead Tricep Extension (this one hurt alot)
Skull Crushers (If I'm thinking of the right one)

I then finished off with some Bench Dips

Bi's
---

Barbell Curl
Close-Grip EZ Bar Curl
Alternate Hammer Curl (alternate dumbbells)

Then finally forearms..

At first, I couldn't feel anything and I thought I was doing them wrong.

Palms-Up Barbell Wrist Curl Over A Bench
Reverse Cable Curl
Reverse Barbell Curl


The end result was that by the time I got back to my desk to eat my dinner, my fork wouldn't keep still and I had to temp hold it with my other hand..

Next time I'm going to work legs



Posted by: Ralph Wiggum

I also just started this routine. After going through the motions for about 3 months, this program has gave me some renewed focus.

Thanks, GoPro.



Posted by: KarlW

Is there somewhere around here where users have posted there P/RR/S routines or specific exercises (particularly for shock week)? I mean like a central page with everyone's ideas?



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlW
Is there somewhere around here where users have posted there P/RR/S routines or specific exercises (particularly for shock week)? I mean like a central page with everyone's ideas?
we mainly follow this outline, you can tweak things to your needs, what exactly do you need?
http://ironmagazine.com/article65.html



Posted by: KarlW

Hi Tank, I've been doing P/RR/S and have thought up my own exercises and superset workouts for Shock week to change things around from time to time but I was just wondering if such a thread or page existed where we could post ideas. When the time comes (like after 9 weeks + a week off) to change to different exercises we could refer to the page for ideas.
It might consist for example, of exercise combinations that have worked really well for people but others may not have thought of.



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlW
Hi Tank, I've been doing P/RR/S and have thought up my own exercises and superset workouts for Shock week to change things around from time to time but I was just wondering if such a thread or page existed where we could post ideas. When the time comes (like after 9 weeks + a week off) to change to different exercises we could refer to the page for ideas.
It might consist for example, of exercise combinations that have worked really well for people but others may not have thought of.
Eric[Gp] is working on a whole series of articles and a website just for p/rr/sh.



Posted by: Randy

And everyone used to laugh at the Link Master for wanting to introduce articles about P/RR/S



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by easyb
Hey GoPro, This sounds good, but I don't have access to a smith or cable crossover or a dip machine, so what could i sub in for those exercises that involve those machines? Also I have seen a couple of threads that oppose chest/tris on same day. That is what I currently do. I am wondering if I can still keep that for your program. Example I do a 4 day split: MON-chest/tri
Tues- back/bi
Wed-off
Thur-leg/ab
Fri-shoulder
can I keep this routine with p/rr/p/rr/s? many many Thanks
If you do not have those pieces of equipment then you simply have to work with what is available to you. All smith exercises can be done with free weights, so don't worry there. Substitute flyes for cables and do regular dips instead of dip machine.

Yes, you can keep the program you have for P/RR/P/RR/S. The exact bodypart split you use is a very individual thing.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Gopro, maybe you can modify my doc to clear up this confusion and maybe add reference to the advanced routines you're referring to as well?????

Well if you have time anyway.
Time? What is that and where can I get some!



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by kimberlieeadie
What do you think of cardio training through out a weights pogram for fatloss? or is it more benificial to leave cardio at the end of a program or a different day altogether.
Do cardio right after the weights or first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Yes, some cardio should be utilized along with weight training when fat loss is a goal.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Decosta

The end result was that by the time I got back to my desk to eat my dinner, my fork wouldn't keep still and I had to temp hold it with my other hand..

Next time I'm going to work legs
Cool!



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Wiggum
I also just started this routine. After going through the motions for about 3 months, this program has gave me some renewed focus.

Thanks, GoPro.
Great to hear. You are more than welcome!



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlW
Hi Tank, I've been doing P/RR/S and have thought up my own exercises and superset workouts for Shock week to change things around from time to time but I was just wondering if such a thread or page existed where we could post ideas. When the time comes (like after 9 weeks + a week off) to change to different exercises we could refer to the page for ideas.
It might consist for example, of exercise combinations that have worked really well for people but others may not have thought of.
And feel free to start a thread like this, and then my famous linkmaster, Randy, will eventually incorporate it into his group of P/RR/S links. If you start a thread, I'm sure people will join in with their own ideas.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank316
Eric[Gp] is working on a whole series of articles and a website just for p/rr/sh.
True dat!



Posted by: SuperFlex

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Nice routines but you need very few sets to say the least. I maybe give it a shot but double the sets. Habits I guess. You definitely know what you're doing looking at your avatar but I don't trust it would work for me. Should I double the sets or give your exact routine a shot? I know that's pretty intense so it would require less sets and what not but that few? Thanks for the advice...



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by bkc
Nice routines but you need very few sets to say the least. I maybe give it a shot but double the sets. Habits I guess. You definitely know what you're doing looking at your avatar but I don't trust it would work for me. Should I double the sets or give your exact routine a shot? I know that's pretty intense so it would require less sets and what not but that few? Thanks for the advice...
No, if you are going to double the sets, expect half the results. The only way I would recommend anyone to double the sets is if they are on steroids, or they can train, eat and sleep, without having to work or go to school. Adding one or two sets is ok at the most, but if you are doing even that you have not learned how to truly train that intensely yet.



Posted by: Rissole

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
No, if you are going to double the sets, expect half the results. The only way I would recommend anyone to double the sets is if they are on steroids, or they can train, eat and sleep, without having to work or go to school. Adding one or two sets is ok at the most, but if you are doing even that you have not learned how to truly train that intensely yet.
I trained 4 clients today that all thought they knew what intensity was, so i dropped their wieghts and they were all cryin like babies by the end



Posted by: Randy

How are you training them Rissole? P/RR/S



Posted by: Randy

I'm starting RR next week.. I've gone 2 weeks of Power so far.
I'm working my major muscle groups twice a week. I have been doing a 3 day split program at the moment. It seems to be working very well...except for all the Holiday food.. I feel like a stuffed cow now.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rissole
I trained 4 clients today that all thought they knew what intensity was, so i dropped their wieghts and they were all cryin like babies by the end
Good job Rizster!! Hey, I did not know you were doing personal training!?



Posted by: Rissole

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
How are you training them Rissole? P/RR/S
I use the guy who owns the gym's programmes but i use good tempos and very strict on form. Not like the guy who owns the gym....

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Good job Rizster!! Hey, I did not know you were doing personal training!?
I just fill in his clients occasionally, they all want me when we're done though..
I will be using P/RR/S when i finish getting my ticket and open my own gym later next year



Posted by: Randy

Sounds good Rissole... Yes, form is always the first and most important step for beginners. But hell, I've seen advanced lifters using lousy form as well. Many will try to show off by tossing on to much weight then they can chew just to show off in front of others.. Then their form takes a nose dive.

Sounds great to hear of your goal in owning a gym by next year. To bad you're so far away Rissole, I would pay you a visit.



Posted by: SuperFlex

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
No, if you are going to double the sets, expect half the results. The only way I would recommend anyone to double the sets is if they are on steroids, or they can train, eat and sleep, without having to work or go to school. Adding one or two sets is ok at the most, but if you are doing even that you have not learned how to truly train that intensely yet.
I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the advice gopro. As far as training intensely I thought that was the only way to train...



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rissole
I use the guy who owns the gym's programmes but i use good tempos and very strict on form. Not like the guy who owns the gym....


I just fill in his clients occasionally, they all want me when we're done though..
I will be using P/RR/S when i finish getting my ticket and open my own gym later next year
A gym in beautiful Australia?! Hmmm, I may have to move an be a partner



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by bkc
I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the advice gopro. As far as training intensely I thought that was the only way to train...
You are welcome!

And yes, its the only way to train, but some people's definition of intensity is actually turning off their cell phone while working out



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