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Power/Rep Range/Shock: The Basics

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Posted by: MuScLe TeNsIoN

Im geting confused about rep range week right here it says you should change the weight after each set on one specific exercise

Quote:
Rep Range
Recommended: Sets: (3) Reps: 3 ranges (7-10), (11-15), (16-20)

The purpose of Rep Range is to create a range of reps so that each sets range is varied. This technique is proven to be very effective.
1. Set 1: Load your weight so that you can lift as heavy as possible to achieve 7-10 reps.
2. Set 2: Lower your weight so that you can lift as heavy as possible to achieve 11-15 reps.

3. Set 3: Lower your weight so that you can lift as heavy as possible to achieve 16- 20 reps.
And over here it says to keep the weight the same for a specific exercise. But change rep ranges after your done with that exercise.

Quote:
REP RANGE: week 2

- Alternating dumbell curl...2 x 6-8
- Cable curl...2 x 8-10
- Concentration curl...1-2 x 10-12
- Weighted dip...3 x 6-8
- Pushdown...2 x 8-10
- Kickback...1-2 x 10-12




Posted by: Phred

Quote:
Originally Posted by MuScLe TeNsIoN View Post
Im geting confused about rep range week right here it says you should change the weight after each set on one specific exercise



And over here it says to keep the weight the same for a specific exercise. But change rep ranges after your done with that exercise.
The underlying concept of RR week is to work the muscles in 3 different ranges to try and target the 3 different muscle fibers. How you get there is up to you.

Example: You can work 3 different exercises (say flat bench, incline bench and DB flys) for 3 sets each. Now you will end up with a total of 9 sets. So you can mix it any way you want to to end up with 3 sets in the 7-9 range, 3 sets in the 10-12 range and 3 sets in the 13-16 range. So you have identified two different ways to achieve this. It is your choice or preference if you want to work one exercise in all three rep ranges or work 3 different exercieses, each with its own rep range.

I tend to rotate my exercises (the order of them in terms of the rep ranges used) every few weeks. So for me, I may work incline bench in rep range of 7-9 for a few weeks, then move it to the next higher rep range (10-12) for a few weeks just to keep things interesting and the body guessing. My current cycle is P/RR/RR/S/P/RR/RR/RR/S for a nine week cycle. The 10th week is active recovery with little or no resistance training - Cardio in its place.



Posted by: MuScLe TeNsIoN

Hey Thanks very helpful!



Posted by: kathy0

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Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phred View Post
The underlying concept of RR week is to work the muscles in 3 different ranges to try and target the 3 different muscle fibers. How you get there is up to you.

Example: You can work 3 different exercises (say flat bench, incline bench and DB flys) for 3 sets each. Now you will end up with a total of 9 sets. So you can mix it any way you want to to end up with 3 sets in the 7-9 range, 3 sets in the 10-12 range and 3 sets in the 13-16 range. So you have identified two different ways to achieve this. It is your choice or preference if you want to work one exercise in all three rep ranges or work 3 different exercieses, each with its own rep range.

I tend to rotate my exercises (the order of them in terms of the rep ranges used) every few weeks. So for me, I may work incline bench in rep range of 7-9 for a few weeks, then move it to the next higher rep range (10-12) for a few weeks just to keep things interesting and the body guessing. My current cycle is P/RR/RR/S/P/RR/RR/RR/S for a nine week cycle. The 10th week is active recovery with little or no resistance training - Cardio in its place.
Thank you for being such a great ambassador of my program Phred. I appreciate it!



Posted by: Justshyofit

Hey guys,
So Ive been at this forum for a day and a half and already read tons!!

but a quick question, and hopefully it wasnt answered in previous replies cuz then I'll feel pretty dumb...here it goes:

My main goal is fat loss at this point and im really wanting to incorperate this routine into my lifting so a couple questions:

1) Is it ok to go on this while your on a calorie deficit?

2) What order should I do these in to be most effective for Fat Loss? (eg- P/RR/RR/S or RR/P/RR/S)

3) How and when should I be doing Cardio?



Posted by: Phred

1. yes
2. Does not really matter, however, P/RR/RR/S with shorter rest intervals between sets would work fine. Say 45-60 second RIs.
3. Cardio should be seperate from your resistance training. If it cannot be, then do cardio last.

If fat loss is your goal, I would focus on diet. That will be where you will have the most impact on fat loss. Your Diet.

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Originally Posted by Justshyofit View Post
Hey guys,
So Ive been at this forum for a day and a half and already read tons!!

but a quick question, and hopefully it wasnt answered in previous replies cuz then I'll feel pretty dumb...here it goes:

My main goal is fat loss at this point and im really wanting to incorperate this routine into my lifting so a couple questions:

1) Is it ok to go on this while your on a calorie deficit?

2) What order should I do these in to be most effective for Fat Loss? (eg- P/RR/RR/S or RR/P/RR/S)

3) How and when should I be doing Cardio?




Posted by: buffallen

Hey what's up? I am by no means new to bodybuilding, but wanted to get some opinions/ suggestion in regards to a mass cycle. The last cycle used was with Sustanon/ Deca and was great, but want to go up a notch. I'm still new to juice, so disregard if my questions sound silly. First of all I would like to start with Anadrol, Sustanon, Deca, & Nolvadex. Since I know that Anadrol is very liver-toxic and looses its effect after about 3 weeks, I would like to still continue with the Deca and Sustanon, since I liked the results. I'm 230 lbs at 6ft and would like to know any suggestions for dosage and/ or combination suggestions, while staying away from adding another injectable. Most the stacks I have read include D-bol as well. Thanks.



Posted by: Double D

wrong thread



Posted by: juggernaut

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Originally Posted by buffallen View Post
Hey what's up? I am by no means new to bodybuilding, but wanted to get some opinions/ suggestion in regards to a mass cycle. The last cycle used was with Sustanon/ Deca and was great, but want to go up a notch. I'm still new to juice, so disregard if my questions sound silly. First of all I would like to start with Anadrol, Sustanon, Deca, & Nolvadex. Since I know that Anadrol is very liver-toxic and looses its effect after about 3 weeks, I would like to still continue with the Deca and Sustanon, since I liked the results. I'm 230 lbs at 6ft and would like to know any suggestions for dosage and/ or combination suggestions, while staying away from adding another injectable. Most the stacks I have read include D-bol as well. Thanks.
2 posts? and youre asking these questions in the wrong thread?



Posted by: DiGiTaL

Welcome to IM.



Posted by: ivesy191

Hello Gopro P/RR/S is unreal. I was wondering if you ever posted your diets if so where can i look at them



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by ivesy191 View Post
Hello Gopro P/RR/S is unreal. I was wondering if you ever posted your diets if so where can i look at them
Thank you. Yes, there is info about my high protein, medium to low carb, medium fat approach to diet here and on a few other boards.



Posted by: seank02

Gopro, do you think it is a good idea for a beginer to start out with a Power/Rep Range/Shock routine? I have little experience with lifting and i am looking to bulk up.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by seank02 View Post
Gopro, do you think it is a good idea for a beginer to start out with a Power/Rep Range/Shock routine? I have little experience with lifting and i am looking to bulk up.
I believe a beginner can do quite well with a P/RR/RR/P/RR/RR pattern. I would leave out the shock workouts for at least 6-12 months.



Posted by: Big G

Lift like a Chicken. Look Like a Chicken

I like that.

Co-workers of mine will go to the gym with me sometimes. They barely break a sweat, eat all kinds of crap, then bitch they don't get results.

I say "Eat big, lift big, rest big, be big" but still they do their chicken-shit workouts.

I can't imagine going to the gym and pussy-footin' around. I go to the gym to go berzerk! I'll be dripping sweat, groaning and moaning, muscles burning like fire and pounding out reps to total anihilation. I an hour I can make myself sore for almost a week. 50-75% of me hurts every day. The only thing that changes is where I hurt. As one area heals another gets tore up. It's an endless cycle of muscle-building madness! I love it!



Posted by: Tank316

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Lift like a Chicken. Look Like a Chicken
So true.....................
hmmmm, wonder what chicken little has been up to???



Posted by: chronicelite

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big G View Post
Lift like a Chicken. Look Like a Chicken

I like that.

Co-workers of mine will go to the gym with me sometimes. They barely break a sweat, eat all kinds of crap, then bitch they don't get results.

I say "Eat big, lift big, rest big, be big" but still they do their chicken-shit workouts.

I can't imagine going to the gym and pussy-footin' around. I go to the gym to go berzerk! I'll be dripping sweat, groaning and moaning, muscles burning like fire and pounding out reps to total anihilation. I an hour I can make myself sore for almost a week. 50-75% of me hurts every day. The only thing that changes is where I hurt. As one area heals another gets tore up. It's an endless cycle of muscle-building madness! I love it!
You want a medal?



Posted by: JailHouse

I've never made my own program so this prolly looks horrible so please critique.
I tried to incorporate the push/legs/pull split in to this program as well.
week one will be 5x5 for power. I'm not sure how many sets and reps I should do for rep range week.


push (chest, shoulders, and tris)
-bench bb press (chest)
-incline db press (chest
-wighted dips (tris)
-Incline Barbell Triceps Extension (tris)
-Arnold Dumbbell Press (shoulders)
-Push Press (shoulders)

legs
-squats 5x5 (quads)
-Leg Extensions (quads)
-Lying Leg Curls (Hamstrings)
-Dumbbell Lunges (hamstrings)
-seated calf raise (calves)

pull (back, and bis)
-dead lift (little bit of every thing)
-Smith Machine Upright Row (traps)
-smith machine shrugs (traps)
-weighted pull ups (lats)
-Close-Grip Front Lat Pulldown (lats)
-Lying T-Bar Row (middle back)
-Seated Cable Rows (middle back)
-Alternate Hammer Curl (bis)

Does it matter what order I do the exercise in? I haven't came up with the shock part of my program yet. When I do finish it, it will consist of mostly supersets and dropsets.



Posted by: AgEnT

this may be an uneducated question, but im wondering what Superset and Dropsets are. On the program, for example shock week 3 chest there are 2 supersets and dropsets. i would like to just clear that up to not screw up the workout. thanks for any help



Posted by: Tank316

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Originally Posted by AgEnT View Post
this may be an uneducated question, but im wondering what Superset and Dropsets are. On the program, for example shock week 3 chest there are 2 supersets and dropsets. i would like to just clear that up to not screw up the workout. thanks for any help

Super set ex, start with cablecross overs then with out rest do a set of incline presss

dropset ex chest press 135lbsx10 reps then drop the weight to 125 for more reps.





Posted by: AgEnT

oh ok thanks i was pretty sure i knew what dropset was but superset makes sense. awesome. i started the p/rr/s workout today. works pretty good.



Posted by: juggernaut

is it possible to do this routine in a matter of 8 days twice? In other words, complete the full body in 4 days, take a day off and restart again?



Posted by: Tank316

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Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
is it possible to do this routine in a matter of 8 days twice? In other words, complete the full body in 4 days, take a day off and restart again?
How much training experience do you have?
Eric has a full body outline in the Oct issue of IM.



Posted by: juggernaut

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank316 View Post
How much training experience do you have?
Eric has a full body outline in the Oct issue of IM.
I've competed several times in the past, so recovery isnt an issue. I'm finding that my body recovers and grows a helluva lot faster with two sessions than once a week.

Is it this October's issue? Got a reprint?



Posted by: Tank316

Quote:
Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
I've competed several times in the past, so recovery isnt an issue. I'm finding that my body recovers and grows a helluva lot faster with two sessions than once a week.

Is it this October's issue? Got a reprint?
Yes, the issue is out, great read!



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
is it possible to do this routine in a matter of 8 days twice? In other words, complete the full body in 4 days, take a day off and restart again?

Yes, you can do this. PRRS can be tweaked for any split based on your own individual recovery abilities. I have had success with clients using it with anything from 2 day to 6 day per week splits.



Posted by: Prince

gopro, hmmmm, I kind of remember you.



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Posted by: xonlythestrongx

nice pic



Posted by: gdossena

hey there i'm about to start week 2 of power/rep range/shock

however the website shows different options to spread out the reps/sets... like 3 sets with 6 reps, 8 reps, 10 reps. ... or 10, 8, 6.... OR 1 exercise 3x8, 2nd 3x12, 3rd 3x15...

whats the best way to take up week 2 on ur first cycle?



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by gdossena View Post
hey there i'm about to start week 2 of power/rep range/shock

however the website shows different options to spread out the reps/sets... like 3 sets with 6 reps, 8 reps, 10 reps. ... or 10, 8, 6.... OR 1 exercise 3x8, 2nd 3x12, 3rd 3x15...

whats the best way to take up week 2 on ur first cycle?
Like this (using chest as an example):

-bench press...3 x 7-9
-incline press...3 x 10-12
-incline flye...2 x 13-15

With the idea of reaching positive failure within the rep range provided for each exercise.



Posted by: masterdine101

im use to 3 years of max-ot. I was wondering what would be a good warmup for power week, rr week, and shock week?

and by lifting tempo do u mean Lifting Tempo: 4/0/X up 4 seconds down 1 or what same with Lifting Tempo: 2/1/2/1*** and Lifting Tempo: 1/0/1



Posted by: gopro

Warmup as you would before approaching any high intensity workout.

Lifting tempo is expressed in either 3 or 4 numbers, with each representing time in seconds:

negative/stretch position/positive/contracted position

(I generally will only list the contracted position if the movement has a peak contraction effect...example: leg extensions)

Remember that some exercises START with a negative, like bench press, and others, like curls start with a positive. However, this does not change how lifting tempo is expressed.



Posted by: diablomex

i've been checking this routine out,because i feel like i hit a platue.i've been working out for almost 6 yrs and i dont think im where i should be.i dont know ,what it is.i was thinking about doing this.but i have a home gym (mini leg press,leverage squat by powertech i think,a multi gym with a bench ,lat pulldown,a cable to do seated rows and a dip stand and i have dip belt ) .in your shock week ,you include machines and cables what do you recommend if you dont have those things.appreciate, your feedback



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by diablomex View Post
i've been checking this routine out,because i feel like i hit a platue.i've been working out for almost 6 yrs and i dont think im where i should be.i dont know ,what it is.i was thinking about doing this.but i have a home gym (mini leg press,leverage squat by powertech i think,a multi gym with a bench ,lat pulldown,a cable to do seated rows and a dip stand and i have dip belt ) .in your shock week ,you include machines and cables what do you recommend if you dont have those things.appreciate, your feedback

Its really no problem. Just be creative and make use of what you have. A full shock routine can be made just with BB's and DB's if need be!



Posted by: ArnoldsProtege

Hello all. I am going to start this program tomoro, as I have been doing the same workout for the past 6 weeks (3 sets of 15,13,10).

Im just wondering, is it wise to follow that exact program that has been outlined? Aside from a few exercises i dont know (hack squats, "cheat" laterals,) The program seems pretty solid. I have always been indecisive and have had problems making a routine. The one you outlined seems straightforward and logical... Would you recomend following it exactly? I am 5'10, 210 looking to get leaner and lose BF. I do about 30-60 mins of cardio after the workouts as well, adn i goto the gym 4 days a week. Sorry if i come off as a noob, i just really need to start following a set program,and this seems really good. I will probly follow it to a tee (unless anyone makes an suggestions or recomendations, ideally gopro) Thanks for the help!



Posted by: gopro

You CAN follow it exactly if you wish, however, if there are certain exercises you want to substitute for then feel free. As long as the basic principles of the program are followed, and you work your butt off, you WILL gain size and strength.



Posted by: ArnoldsProtege

thank you for the prompt response Starting tomoro, looking forward to it. I have a quick question though, you mention taking a week off to let your body recoupoerate after 3 cycles... so is that 9 weeks? or do u mean 3 weeks of P/RR/S /Break, then repeat?

Also, what split do you recomend for this? Im currently doing a Chest/Tris, Back/Bis and Shoulder/Leg split doing calves, abs and forearms twice a week. Should I continue this split only implementing the PRRS techniques?



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArnoldsProtege View Post
thank you for the prompt response Starting tomoro, looking forward to it. I have a quick question though, you mention taking a week off to let your body recoupoerate after 3 cycles... so is that 9 weeks? or do u mean 3 weeks of P/RR/S /Break, then repeat?

Also, what split do you recomend for this? Im currently doing a Chest/Tris, Back/Bis and Shoulder/Leg split doing calves, abs and forearms twice a week. Should I continue this split only implementing the PRRS techniques?
The week off is after 3 full cycles, or 9 weeks total.

That split is fine, although I tend to favor 4-day splits like:

chest/bis/abs
quads/hams/calves
back/lowback/abs
delts/traps/tris/calves

Or something similar.



Posted by: ArnoldsProtege

Hmm... I probably could devote myself to a 4 day split... If you dont mind, i would GREATLY apprecaite if you were to outline what exercises and reps would be best for THAT split (chest/bis, etc). That seems like a good routine, and coming from someone so knowledgable, I would greatly appreciate the help and I know it would help my training knowing that YOU think its a good program. Thanks alot gopro



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by ArnoldsProtege View Post
Hmm... I probably could devote myself to a 4 day split... If you dont mind, i would GREATLY apprecaite if you were to outline what exercises and reps would be best for THAT split (chest/bis, etc). That seems like a good routine, and coming from someone so knowledgable, I would greatly appreciate the help and I know it would help my training knowing that YOU think its a good program. Thanks alot gopro
I unfortunately can't outline a whole routine for you because I get paid to do so, and that would not be fair to my clients. However, I suggest that you join my message board, which you can access off of my website, where there are many journals being kept by PRRS users. That should give you plenty of ideas. There are also many PRRS experts over there that can help you. But don't leave this board, as it is also a tremendous source of information!!!!



Posted by: diablomex

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Originally Posted by gopro View Post
Its really no problem. Just be creative and make use of what you have. A full shock routine can be made just with BB's and DB's if need be!
ya but what do you recommend to replace those excercises(cables and machines).im one of those people that tend to over do it. thats why i ask



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex View Post
ya but what do you recommend to replace those excercises(cables and machines).im one of those people that tend to over do it. thats why i ask
Well, I cannot outline all of the exercises you could use, but simply using a DB flye instead of a cable crossover, or a BB hack squat instead of a machine hack squat is what I am getting at.

Always remember that you can simply change the grip or angle of a movement to completely change it!



Posted by: ArnoldsProtege

I understand where your comin from gopro, thanks for the info.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArnoldsProtege View Post
I understand where your comin from gopro, thanks for the info.




Posted by: ArnoldsProtege

If you dont mind me askin, why chest/bis together as opposed to the standard chest/tri?



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by ArnoldsProtege View Post
If you dont mind me askin, why chest/bis together as opposed to the standard chest/tri?

Chest/bis is not written in stone, it is more a personal preference. Chest training involves alot of triceps, so by the time I would get to them my tris would not get a good workout. However, my biceps are quite fresh after chest, and I can lift heavier and more intensely for them. I also do not like back and biceps together. I always train back on its own and often pair triceps with delts.



Posted by: ArnoldsProtege

Ic ic... back by itself eh... I actually agree with that. I have been doing back and bi, and by the time i get to the guns there weak!

Could you give me some pointers on how to get an AMAZING back workout? I mean, I feel the burn intensely with muscles like chest, legs and bis, but when I train my back, I CANT get that same burn! I feel like i might be doing something wrong, or doing bad exercises, i just dont know. I want my back to feel like its on fire, and be sore for days afterwards, like my chest or my biceps. Is it because its such a big muscle grouping? Im doing back tomoro (was going to with bis... now im r3condisering..) and im in week 1 of the P/RR/S system, so im goin heavy.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArnoldsProtege View Post
Ic ic... back by itself eh... I actually agree with that. I have been doing back and bi, and by the time i get to the guns there weak!

Could you give me some pointers on how to get an AMAZING back workout? I mean, I feel the burn intensely with muscles like chest, legs and bis, but when I train my back, I CANT get that same burn! I feel like i might be doing something wrong, or doing bad exercises, i just dont know. I want my back to feel like its on fire, and be sore for days afterwards, like my chest or my biceps. Is it because its such a big muscle grouping? Im doing back tomoro (was going to with bis... now im r3condisering..) and im in week 1 of the P/RR/S system, so im goin heavy.
This short article I wrote a while back might help:

The back, IMO, is the most complex muscle group in the body, the most challenging to get fully developed, and the most amazing to look at when body fat is low! There are a lot of muscles to think about when approaching back training...the lats, the teres, the rhomboids, the posterior delts, the upper and mid traps, the erectors, and yes the muscles that lie deeper in the back (not visible to us).

More than with ANY other muscle group, the back carries with it the need for many different exercises, angles, and grips to achieve true "completeness." Some people are wide, some are thick, and some have pretty good detail, but few have it all!

The way I approach back training is to try and get to every portion of my back in each workout and do so without overtraining or spending 3 hours in the gym. This means NOT trying to do every exercise in existence at every back workout, but getting in different ones each time.

This is what I like to do each week, and this is what has literally transformed my back over the last few years from a weakness to a strong point.

3 basic angle of pull:

-one vertical pulling movement (pull-ups, pull downs)
-one horizontal pulling movement (seated row, hammer row, machine row)
-one bent over movement (bent row, dumbbell row, T-bar row)

1 "upper lat" isolator:

-either stiff arms or pullovers (machine or dumbbell)

1 upper trap/1 mid trap movement:

-upper: barbell shrug, dumbbell shrug, machine shrug
-middle: upright row (bar, cable, dumbbell)

1 lower back movement:

-hyperextensions, rack deadlifts, good mornings (I'm partial to deads)

3 types of grips for my pulling exercises:

-one exercise with close or v-handle
-one wide and overhand
-one medium and underhand

(I will change which exercise/pulling angle gets which grip each time I train)

To clarify, a typical day of back will look like this:

-machine pullover...2 x 12-15
-WG overhand pull down...2 x 10-12
-CG seated row...2 x 8-10
-underhand grip bent row...2 x 6-8
-rack deadlifts...2 x 4-6
-superset: dumbbell shrug/barbell upright row...2 x 8-10 each

*Rear delts, which are needed for a complete back are done on shoulder day for part of the year and back day for part of the year.

I certainly hope this helps someone. It made all the difference for me when I put this together a few years ago… and for my many clients as well.



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Posted by: ArnoldsProtege

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro View Post
This short article I wrote a while back might help:

The back, IMO, is the most complex muscle group in the body, the most challenging to get fully developed, and the most amazing to look at when body fat is low! There are a lot of muscles to think about when approaching back training...the lats, the teres, the rhomboids, the posterior delts, the upper and mid traps, the erectors, and yes the muscles that lie deeper in the back (not visible to us).

More than with ANY other muscle group, the back carries with it the need for many different exercises, angles, and grips to achieve true "completeness." Some people are wide, some are thick, and some have pretty good detail, but few have it all!

The way I approach back training is to try and get to every portion of my back in each workout and do so without overtraining or spending 3 hours in the gym. This means NOT trying to do every exercise in existence at every back workout, but getting in different ones each time.

This is what I like to do each week, and this is what has literally transformed my back over the last few years from a weakness to a strong point.

3 basic angle of pull:

-one vertical pulling movement (pull-ups, pull downs)
-one horizontal pulling movement (seated row, hammer row, machine row)
-one bent over movement (bent row, dumbbell row, T-bar row)

1 "upper lat" isolator:

-either stiff arms or pullovers (machine or dumbbell)

1 upper trap/1 mid trap movement:

-upper: barbell shrug, dumbbell shrug, machine shrug
-middle: upright row (bar, cable, dumbbell)

1 lower back movement:

-hyperextensions, rack deadlifts, good mornings (I'm partial to deads)

3 types of grips for my pulling exercises:

-one exercise with close or v-handle
-one wide and overhand
-one medium and underhand

(I will change which exercise/pulling angle gets which grip each time I train)

To clarify, a typical day of back will look like this:

-machine pullover...2 x 12-15
-WG overhand pull down...2 x 10-12
-CG seated row...2 x 8-10
-underhand grip bent row...2 x 6-8
-rack deadlifts...2 x 4-6
-superset: dumbbell shrug/barbell upright row...2 x 8-10 each

*Rear delts, which are needed for a complete back are done on shoulder day for part of the year and back day for part of the year.

I certainly hope this helps someone. It made all the difference for me when I put this together a few years ago… and for my many clients as well.

Wow... Gopro, you rock! thanks for the much appreciated help. Im now excited to do back haha.



Posted by: HOOPIE

Watch out evreyone, this GOPRO guy is a lunatic. They caught him one night leaving the gym with a 70 pound DB in each hand. When they asked him what he was doing he told them that he was hungry and needed a snack after his workout....LOL/ J/K BIG E!

Hey in all seriousness everyone his workout program is awesome. Ive made some great gains in size and strength. From P/RR/S basic to P/RR/S Advanced(which i use now) to FD/FS. They work and work well. I will tell you this if you use his program or programs correctly they will bring the pain day in and day out. There is NOT a day go by that i am not sore. An there have been days during rep range and shock weeks that i have almost puked during the workout....Give it a shot cause i dont think you will be dissappointed..



Posted by: gopro

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Wow... Gopro, you rock! thanks for the much appreciated help. Im now excited to do back haha.


Kick some booty!



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by HOOPIE View Post
Watch out evreyone, this GOPRO guy is a lunatic. They caught him one night leaving the gym with a 70 pound DB in each hand. When they asked him what he was doing he told them that he was hungry and needed a snack after his workout....LOL/ J/K BIG E!

Hey in all seriousness everyone his workout program is awesome. Ive made some great gains in size and strength. From P/RR/S basic to P/RR/S Advanced(which i use now) to FD/FS. They work and work well. I will tell you this if you use his program or programs correctly they will bring the pain day in and day out. There is NOT a day go by that i am not sore. An there have been days during rep range and shock weeks that i have almost puked during the workout....Give it a shot cause i dont think you will be dissappointed..
Thanks for the kudos my friend! You have always been such a wonderful supporter!



Posted by: CaptCutty38

there's a lot of good information in this article. thanks!





Canned Fitness
Fitness So Simple, It Should Come In A Can




Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by CaptCutty38 View Post
there's a lot of good information in this article. thanks!





Canned Fitness
Fitness So Simple, It Should Come In A Can

Thank you



Posted by: quark

gopro do you think this technique would be successful using a whole body routine?



Posted by: gopro

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gopro do you think this technique would be successful using a whole body routine?
Absolutely!



Posted by: oneovercabin

I know it's early, but I've done this for about 3 weeks and it's the best program I've ever used. The power week is really tough! I've already seen a pretty big increase in strength.



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by oneovercabin View Post
I know it's early, but I've done this for about 3 weeks and it's the best program I've ever used. The power week is really tough! I've already seen a pretty big increase in strength.
I really do appreciate the feedback. Thank you! I hope the gains continue to come!!



Posted by: tryn2getbig

Gopro... This might be a stupid question but I'm a little confused on the lifting temp. When it states:

2/1/2/1

Does this mean 2 seconds on up lift, 1 second down, 2 seconds up, 1 second down? or the 3-4/0/x?

I'm starting the program today... I'm coming off a back injury that has left me far from the gym for the last 2+ months. I've gotten back like 3 times in the last week or two but have been really hesitant, afraid I'm going to re-injure myself. Do you think this program will be good to get back in with? I've lost a lost of muscle mass and gained a couple lbs of fat (due to depression from my injury). I'm looking to kick this injury in the ass and start building a new and better me... Which brings me back to my last question, because I'm coming off an injury, would this program be good for me?

Thanks in advance--



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by tryn2getbig View Post
Gopro... This might be a stupid question but I'm a little confused on the lifting temp. When it states:

2/1/2/1

Does this mean 2 seconds on up lift, 1 second down, 2 seconds up, 1 second down? or the 3-4/0/x?

I'm starting the program today... I'm coming off a back injury that has left me far from the gym for the last 2+ months. I've gotten back like 3 times in the last week or two but have been really hesitant, afraid I'm going to re-injure myself. Do you think this program will be good to get back in with? I've lost a lost of muscle mass and gained a couple lbs of fat (due to depression from my injury). I'm looking to kick this injury in the ass and start building a new and better me... Which brings me back to my last question, because I'm coming off an injury, would this program be good for me?

Thanks in advance--
Well, I know all about major back injuries, as I have been rehabbing one for almost 2 years now!

No matter what the program, mine or any other, you will just need to be careful and break into it slowly. Will PRRS produce great gains in muscle once you are able to apply yourself 100%? Yes it will! Plus, the cyclical nature of the program will actually help prevent injuries.

As for tempo...the first number represents the eccentric, the second represents the midpoint or stretch, the third represents the concentric, and the last represents the contraction point.

Each number represents on second and an "X" means lift explosively.



Posted by: tryn2getbig

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Originally Posted by gopro View Post
Well, I know all about major back injuries, as I have been rehabbing one for almost 2 years now!

No matter what the program, mine or any other, you will just need to be careful and break into it slowly. Will PRRS produce great gains in muscle once you are able to apply yourself 100%? Yes it will! Plus, the cyclical nature of the program will actually help prevent injuries.

I might be stupid, but was does this mean? (eccentric, stretch, concentric, etc.)
As for tempo...the first number represents the eccentric, the second represents the midpoint or stretch, the third represents the concentric, and the last represents the contraction point.

Each number represents on second and an "X" means lift explosively.




Posted by: gopro



You are not stupid, you just never learned the terminology.

Eccentric = the negative portion of a lift where the muscle is stretching against tension (lowering the weight during a curl or bench press for example).

Stretch = equals the point at which the muscle is at full stretch at the midpoint of the exercise (bottom of a DB flye or squat for example)

Concentric = the positive portion of a rep where the muscle is shortening against tension (pulling the bar down during a lat pulldown or pushing a bar down during triceps pushdowns for example)



Posted by: johnfit

Depends on your goal.. Want to get stronger, rest 3-4 minutes.. Want to get lean and drop weight, rest 30 secon. to 1 minute.. It all depends on your goals



Posted by: hossjob

Hey Coach...look who found ya?

AMAZING info as ALWAYS. Havn't had a chance to look over everything, but I'm loving it.



Posted by: gopro

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Hey Coach...look who found ya?

AMAZING info as ALWAYS. Havn't had a chance to look over everything, but I'm loving it.

This is the site where PRRS was first introduced my friend!



Posted by: hossjob

NICE! I feel like I'm in the Graceland of PRRS!



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by hossjob View Post
NICE! I feel like I'm in the Graceland of PRRS!
And you my friend are like Elvis (of PRRS)!



Posted by: HOOPIE

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Originally Posted by hossjob View Post
Hey Coach...look who found ya?

AMAZING info as ALWAYS. Havn't had a chance to look over everything, but I'm loving it.
lOOK WHAT THE CAT DRUG IN! How the hell are ya my friend?



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by HOOPIE View Post
lOOK WHAT THE CAT DRUG IN! How the hell are ya my friend?
And another long time PRRS warrior in the house!



Posted by: HOOPIE

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Originally Posted by gopro View Post
And another long time PRRS warrior in the house!
You know it my friend! Now if i can just get myself healed back up i'd be good to go. More tests and doctors friday.



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by HOOPIE View Post
You know it my friend! Now if i can just get myself healed back up i'd be good to go. More tests and doctors friday.
**As you can see Hoops, I meant PRRS, LOL!

Heal up bro! I need that energy you give off when training hard!



Posted by: HOOPIE

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Originally Posted by gopro View Post
**As you can see Hoops, I meant PRRS, LOL!

Heal up bro! I need that energy you give off when training hard!
LOL!!! I need carbs!!! Still dieting just so i can see what i would have looked like in 2 weeks for the show i wanted to do..



Posted by: gopro

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LOL!!! I need carbs!!! Still dieting just so i can see what i would have looked like in 2 weeks for the show i wanted to do..
Damn....you ARE a warrior!



Posted by: kid007

hi i m new here , i was wondering that if this program "PRRS" is for the starters or not ... what is the right time to start with such a routine.



Posted by: HOOPIE

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Originally Posted by kid007 View Post
hi i m new here , i was wondering that if this program "PRRS" is for the starters or not ... what is the right time to start with such a routine.
sTART it anytime...PRRS is for everyone from beginner to the pros.



Posted by: gopro

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hi i m new here , i was wondering that if this program "PRRS" is for the starters or not ... what is the right time to start with such a routine.
Hoopie is right, but as a beginner you should only switch off between P and RR for the first 6 months...leave Shock alone until then. Do it like this..

P/P/RR/P/RR/RR, etc.



Posted by: zombul

Now let me be first to say I did not read this entire thread and I was very hesitant about this workout split being to easy.I have made it to my first shock week and am very happy with it.It stays very fresh and keeps me motivated and doesn't seem to long yet I am actually getting sore in places and that amazes me.I am very on board with this routine and I like it very much and will continue it probably for a while.



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by zombul View Post
Now let me be first to say I did not read this entire thread and I was very hesitant about this workout split being to easy.I have made it to my first shock week and am very happy with it.It stays very fresh and keeps me motivated and doesn't seem to long yet I am actually getting sore in places and that amazes me.I am very on board with this routine and I like it very much and will continue it probably for a while.

Thank you for that feedback as it is very much appreciated!



Posted by: zombul

Again not to beat a dead horse but this is a damn good and effective workout.I have lifted for years and bang my head looking for something good all the time and I now have 9 full weeks planned out and it has been very effective. It appeared to easy but no it has been perfect. I strongly incourage any experienced lifters to give this a shot!!!!!! It WILL be worth your time.



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by zombul View Post
Again not to beat a dead horse but this is a damn good and effective workout.I have lifted for years and bang my head looking for something good all the time and I now have 9 full weeks planned out and it has been very effective. It appeared to easy but no it has been perfect. I strongly incourage any experienced lifters to give this a shot!!!!!! It WILL be worth your time.
Thank you sincerely for that feedback! I really appreciate your words and am very happy that PRRS is doing well by you!



Posted by: ChrisM

How should calves, traps, and wrists be incorporated into the prrs program in accordance to each week, sets, and reps? I apologize if this has already been answered in the thread.

I'm doing a p/rr routine because I'm not yet in my complete first year of lifting, but I have to say, it is feeling incredibly effective and resulting in rapid progression. Just prior to prr(s), I was doing a push/pull, hitting each body part 2x a week. It worked for around two months, but by the third, my mind and body were reluctant to exercise (though i pushed myself) and were physically drained. I'm only a month into prrs, but each day is rigorous, exciting, and motivating. I am eager to each workout, and especially eager for each of the rest days during the week.



Posted by: HOOPIE

When it comes to calves, traps and by wrist i presume you mean forearms, I do them to whatever week in the program i am on. So for power week i do 3x6 for each. Rep range week it all depends on where my exercise falls as to how many reps i do. That you have to figure out kinda depending on your workout. Me i usually run traps at the end with higher reps same with calves duing this week...Sets wise i keep it 2-3 working sets...



Posted by: HOOPIE

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Originally Posted by zombul View Post
Again not to beat a dead horse but this is a damn good and effective workout.I have lifted for years and bang my head looking for something good all the time and I now have 9 full weeks planned out and it has been very effective. It appeared to easy but no it has been perfect. I strongly incourage any experienced lifters to give this a shot!!!!!! It WILL be worth your time.
Are you running the advanced version of the program?



Posted by: Bill Wink

Could someone Please link me or send me a couple of complete exercise routines for P/RR/S ?
Even one that you've written up for your self.

And If the tempo was listed in order of the first movement of the exercise itself, That would Be Great!
! It will take me a year to figure out concentric and eccentric's, !
PM it, or them would be fine.
I'm too poor to pay, or I'd go the online training route, too dumb to figure out the tempo, and if I did figure it out, i'd second guess myself and not have faith.

Help? 1 -or 2 complete routines, ( I know asking you to make the tempo more user friendly is asking a lot, so not need to change that if it means you won't send anything)

Thank's In advance! I really want to do this routine correctly!



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Wink View Post
Could someone Please link me or send me a couple of complete exercise routines for P/RR/S ?
Even one that you've written up for your self.

And If the tempo was listed in order of the first movement of the exercise itself, That would Be Great!
! It will take me a year to figure out concentric and eccentric's, !
PM it, or them would be fine.
I'm too poor to pay, or I'd go the online training route, too dumb to figure out the tempo, and if I did figure it out, i'd second guess myself and not have faith.

Help? 1 -or 2 complete routines, ( I know asking you to make the tempo more user friendly is asking a lot, so not need to change that if it means you won't send anything)

Thank's In advance! I really want to do this routine correctly!

PRRS Training - Home



Posted by: gopro

Thanks Hoopie for stepping in! Let me know if you need any further questions answered...I am back online full time for now.



Posted by: Bill Wink

Thanks!



Posted by: mike1989

sorry for my stupid question but i want to know is it good to train everyday different muscle?



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by mike1989 View Post
sorry for my stupid question but i want to know is it good to train everyday different muscle?
Basically you want to train each muscle group intensely once per week (abs and calves can be hit twice).



Posted by: mike1989

thamk you for further questins i will write



Posted by: gopro

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thamk you for further questins i will write
You are welcome. Good luck!



Posted by: mike1989

ok here is my question..i will train every muscle in different day.i train first chest,second day biceps than my back than trapezius.i don't train schoulders because because i don't like doing it...



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by mike1989 View Post
ok here is my question..i will train every muscle in different day.i train first chest,second day biceps than my back than trapezius.i don't train schoulders because because i don't like doing it...
You have to train shoulders. They are too important not to.

Day 1: chest
Day 2: back
Day 3: off
Day 4: legs
Day 5: shoulders
Day 6: arms
Day 7: off

Repeat



Posted by: mike1989

thanks and what about a healthy diet?



Posted by: gopro

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thanks and what about a healthy diet?
Chicken/turkey breast, round steak, egg whites, fish, green veggies, almonds, walnuts, oatmeal, brown rice, whole grain breads, sweet potatoes.

Those are your basics.



Posted by: mike1989

and what kind of suplemets and what time should i take?



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by mike1989 View Post
and what kind of suplemets and what time should i take?
All you need is a multivitamin, a good protein powder, creatine and lots of good food.



Posted by: mike1989

ok thanks yesterday i made chest and now i feel stretching and power in my chest



Posted by: mike1989

this is good wright??/



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by mike1989 View Post
this is good wright??/
Your chest should feel tight and sore, but it should go away in a few days.



Posted by: IwannaB1

Hello I am 6 months off an ACL surgery and wanted to start working out.
I have been released to do so by my doctor.

I put on about 7 or 8 pounds of fat and can't stand it anymore.

The last time I lifted was 15 years ago in High school.

Were should I go to get a good routine and diet for a rookie.

Thanks in advance. Rick



Posted by: lgmo

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Originally Posted by IwannaB1 View Post
Hello I am 6 months off an ACL surgery and wanted to start working out.
I have been released to do so by my doctor.

I put on about 7 or 8 pounds of fat and can't stand it anymore.

The last time I lifted was 15 years ago in High school.

Were should I go to get a good routine and diet for a rookie.

Thanks in advance. Rick
Hi there,

Obviously a lot of the other guys will have a lot of info to help you. But because you have stated that you have had surgery sometime ago and you havent lifted for about 15years as well as putting some weight on. I think it would be really important to start off slowly and firstly work on getting your fitness levels back up and dropping some of the weight. Some good ideas are seen on Fitness Freaks Info - Sports Fitness and Exercise - Everything you need to know about Fitness, this blogs provides workout ideas and diets for beginners through to the advanced. I think it would be a good help to you for building up your fitness and start off with some light lifting and exercises you can do around home.

Luke



Posted by: IwannaB1

I started therapy the day after surgery. I have been running on a treadmill and riding a bike.
I also started doing leg curls and leg extentions with lite weight.

What I should of said in my first post was that I do plenty of exerise at therapy for my legs. I have been working my legs three days a week.

However I don't want to sit around and watch myself increase the size of the spare tire that has started to take shape.

I have always been in great shape. I was 180 lbs. at 6 ft. I now am 186 lbs from sitting on my butt.

Thank you for the help.



Posted by: ALIENEGYPT

Hey GP!

It's been a while my friend, hope you are well.

I have been a faithful and enthusiastic P/RR/S Version 1 Warrior for years, personally following a RR/P/RR/S protocol 4 days a week for a 12 week cycle before resting. For the next several months, I will need to condense my workout schedule, weight training 2 days a week with 1 day of cardio.

I would like your input on a proper split. My main goal is to maintain as much mass and strength as possible during this time. Here are some of the options/questions I have encountered:

1. Should I apply my RR/P/RR/S principle to these two days rotating weeks, or will it be more beneficial to concentrate on one week specifically...i.e. RR every week?

2. I use 80-90% of the movements you outlined in the original P/RR/S workout with marginal substitutes. Should I move to a routine of mostly complex movements (Squats/Clings/Deadlifts) to maximize muscle excitement since my time will be limited?

3. Since each P/RR/S exercise gradually increases in reps per body part, how deep into the order of exercises do I need to go if you recommend staying with the isolation movements? i.e Version 1 Chest RR is 6-8, 8-10, 10-12...would I just pick the 6-8, 8-10 for 2 sets per 2 exercises?

4. Finally, what is your recommend split? 1 Day upper body/1 Day lower body/1 Day posterior body, 1 Day anterior body/etc...


Thanks my friend!



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by ALIENEGYPT View Post
Hey GP!


1. Should I apply my RR/P/RR/S principle to these two days rotating weeks, or will it be more beneficial to concentrate on one week specifically...i.e. RR every week? CONTINUE ROTATING

2. I use 80-90% of the movements you outlined in the original P/RR/S workout with marginal substitutes. Should I move to a routine of mostly complex movements (Squats/Clings/Deadlifts) to maximize muscle excitement since my time will be limited? YES YOU SHOULD

3. Since each P/RR/S exercise gradually increases in reps per body part, how deep into the order of exercises do I need to go if you recommend staying with the isolation movements? i.e Version 1 Chest RR is 6-8, 8-10, 10-12...would I just pick the 6-8, 8-10 for 2 sets per 2 exercises? USE THIS AS EXAMPLE:

BENCH PRESS...1 X 6-8, 1 X 8-10
INCLINE PRESS...1 X 10-12, 1 X 12-15


4. Finally, what is your recommend split? 1 Day upper body/1 Day lower body/1 Day posterior body, 1 Day anterior body/etc...

CHEST/BACK/DELTS/ABS

QUADS/HAMS/CALVES/ARMS


Thanks my friend!
See above.



Posted by: eflores

I just started the p/rr/s routine and started with Power routine. I was reading all the past thread so one of the question could be answer but could not find any. I just wanted to know if it's ok to do push-up on my off days. Or when do you recommend doing push-ups. Thanks



Posted by: Tank316

Whats this p/rr/s stuff???



Posted by: yeksetm

Im about to try P/RR/S

Because im new to it can I stick to the same excercises for P/RR or all 3?

For example Chest

Power

Bench press 3 x 4-6
Incline BP 3 x 4-6
Fly's 2 x 4-6

RR

Bench Press 3 x 6-8
Incline BP 3 x 8-10
Flys 1 x 10-12 and 1 x 12-14

So how would I do the superset?



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by yeksetm View Post
Im about to try P/RR/S

Because im new to it can I stick to the same excercises for P/RR or all 3?

For example Chest

Power

Bench press 3 x 4-6
Incline BP 3 x 4-6
Fly's 2 x 4-6

RR

Bench Press 3 x 6-8
Incline BP 3 x 8-10
Flys 1 x 10-12 and 1 x 12-14

So how would I do the superset?
Yes you can.

For shock week you could do this...

-superset: flyes/bench press...2 x 8-10 each
-superset: incline press/flyes...2 x 8-10 each
-dropset: flye...1 x 8-10, drop, 4-6 more



Posted by: neodeadlift

Harold Ansorge, who made a deadlift of 680 pounds, had a very strenuous programme and one which packed a considerable amount of weight on his body. He worked out on the deadlift once every SIX DAYS making 3 sets of 25 reps and resting 25 minutes between each set. When he had advanced as far as he could go on this schedule, he then trained every FIVE DAYS performing 10 sets of 12 reps, resting 20 minutes between each set. When this schedule was used up, he would rest for five days, and then take on a series of deadlifts with heavy poundage and low reps and a high number of sets. He would make 20 sets of 5 reps with anything from 520 pounds to 650 pounds. He rested 5 minutes between each set. After this schedule dried up, Ansorge would return to the original routine, again deadlifting once every six days.



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by neodeadlift View Post
Harold Ansorge, who made a deadlift of 680 pounds, had a very strenuous programme and one which packed a considerable amount of weight on his body. He worked out on the deadlift once every SIX DAYS making 3 sets of 25 reps and resting 25 minutes between each set. When he had advanced as far as he could go on this schedule, he then trained every FIVE DAYS performing 10 sets of 12 reps, resting 20 minutes between each set. When this schedule was used up, he would rest for five days, and then take on a series of deadlifts with heavy poundage and low reps and a high number of sets. He would make 20 sets of 5 reps with anything from 520 pounds to 650 pounds. He rested 5 minutes between each set. After this schedule dried up, Ansorge would return to the original routine, again deadlifting once every six days.
And this has to do with PRRS how?



Posted by: yeksetm

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Originally Posted by gopro View Post
Yes you can.

For shock week you could do this...

-superset: flyes/bench press...2 x 8-10 each
-superset: incline press/flyes...2 x 8-10 each
-dropset: flye...1 x 8-10, drop, 4-6 more
Hey

So im onto the shock portion now and after doing my chest and biceps yesterday am pretty wrecked. I am having one slight probelem though.

For example yesterday I started off as you advised and pumped out 8 reps
of flys and then straight on to the bench. I thought I would be able to get 8 reps out easy on the bench but only managed 7 reps and then 4. Is it a big deal that theres some trial and error at first? Should I drop the weight or just continue until I can get 8 reps out?

Cheers



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by yeksetm View Post
Hey

So im onto the shock portion now and after doing my chest and biceps yesterday am pretty wrecked. I am having one slight probelem though.

For example yesterday I started off as you advised and pumped out 8 reps
of flys and then straight on to the bench. I thought I would be able to get 8 reps out easy on the bench but only managed 7 reps and then 4. Is it a big deal that theres some trial and error at first? Should I drop the weight or just continue until I can get 8 reps out?

Cheers
Some trial and error will be necessary in the beginning to better learn how your body reacts. It is best to drop the weights and stay within the proper rep ranges though, so that you get the most out of each workout. Over time the weights will begin to go up regardless.



Posted by: yeksetm

Hey

So I have finished my first 3 weeks of P/rr/S and have found it challenging,exhausting and damn hard work!! Did my back on friday (shock)

Pullover/Wg Pull down
Stiff arm pul down / bent row
cls gr t-bar row

and now my back feels the sorest (good sore) it has ever felt.
I don't actually take any protein powders bc I find it extremely daunting trying
to choose one brand with so many out there. What do you recommend? How much should I take when im trying to drop the body fat?

At the moment all im taking is glucosamin tablets and bcaa's.

Cheers



Posted by: chronicelite

I Love P/rr/s !!!!!!!!!!!! I Am Blowing Past All My Friends In The Gym And They Can't Keep Up With Me !!!! Whooooo!!!! Nothing Works As Good As P/rr/s If You Are Natural !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: -E-

Anybody EVER seen Tri pulldowns like this ??

http://s26.photobucket.com/remix/pla...fs=1&os=1&ap=1






Posted by: thaxceptional1

question...do u keep the weights the same through the whole p/rr/shock cycle?

also is there an example of all these excercises cause i am confused to what some mean and what CG means



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by yeksetm View Post
Hey

So I have finished my first 3 weeks of P/rr/S and have found it challenging,exhausting and damn hard work!! Did my back on friday (shock)

Pullover/Wg Pull down
Stiff arm pul down / bent row
cls gr t-bar row

and now my back feels the sorest (good sore) it has ever felt.
I don't actually take any protein powders bc I find it extremely daunting trying
to choose one brand with so many out there. What do you recommend? How much should I take when im trying to drop the body fat?

At the moment all im taking is glucosamin tablets and bcaa's.

Cheers
Glad you are liking my program. As for protein powders I like VPX ZERO CARB, Optimum Whey Gold Standard, AST Vyo-Tech, and Syntrax Nectar.

When trying to drop body fat you should take in about 1.5 x your bodyweight in grams of protein and about .5 grams of carbs per day.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by chronicelite View Post
I Love P/rr/s !!!!!!!!!!!! I Am Blowing Past All My Friends In The Gym And They Can't Keep Up With Me !!!! Whooooo!!!! Nothing Works As Good As P/rr/s If You Are Natural !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you very much.

There will be a PRRS DVD available in a few weeks.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by thaxceptional1 View Post
question...do u keep the weights the same through the whole p/rr/shock cycle?

also is there an example of all these excercises cause i am confused to what some mean and what CG means
No, the weights are different from week to week because the workouts, rep ranges and exercises change.

Good site to look up exercises is: ExRx (Exercise Prescription) on the Net



Posted by: codymessner

Cool i will try it



Posted by: Tank316

Hey Eric, Congrates bro..Pretty cool stuff

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Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by Tank316 View Post
Thank you sir!



Posted by: stew2k8

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro View Post
No, the weights are different from week to week because the workouts, rep ranges and exercises change.

Good site to look up exercises is: ExRx (Exercise Prescription) on the Net
Thank you for the link, ive been looking for a list of exercises to try



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by stew2k8 View Post
Thank you for the link, ive been looking for a list of exercises to try
You are welcome!



Posted by: TaPo31

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro View Post
Thank you very much.

There will be a PRRS DVD available in a few weeks.
I have been told by my wife that my copy of the PRRS DVD has arrived. Unfortunately, I am out of town for a conference, but I am looking forward to watching it ASAP.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by TaPo31 View Post
I have been told by my wife that my copy of the PRRS DVD has arrived. Unfortunately, I am out of town for a conference, but I am looking forward to watching it ASAP.
I hope that you enjoy it!



Posted by: slackadjuster

Do you ever sleep?



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by slackadjuster View Post
Do you ever sleep?
No



Posted by: bricklayer85

i'm looking into the system, and I find several interesting similarities betwen this system and hst. how do they diifer?



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by bricklayer85 View Post
i'm looking into the system, and I find several interesting similarities betwen this system and hst. how do they diifer?
I don't know what "hst" is...can you fill me in?



Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro View Post
I don't know what "hst" is...can you fill me in?
I think he is referring to this: Hypertrophy-Specific Training : : Official Home of HST



Posted by: gopro

Oh, well, I really had not heard of it, and am not going to spend all my time reading the site, so I don't know the specifics of how my system may be similar or differ...but the interesting thing is that both protocols were developed at right around the same time, so it is pretty certain nobody copied the other!



Posted by: Hench

Did you copy him or did he copy you?



Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moondogg View Post
Did you copy him or did he copy you?
because they just both could not have come up with their own systems individually and its coincidental that there are similarities?



Posted by: Hench

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro View Post
both protocols were developed at right around the same time, so it is pretty certain nobody copied the other!
I think its pretty clear that Gopro was insinuating that the creator of HST copied some of his ideas.



Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moondogg View Post
I think its pretty clear that Gopro was insinuating that the creator of HST copied some of his ideas.
really, I read what he said just the opposite, I guess he can clarify.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moondogg View Post
Did you copy him or did he copy you?
Didn't I say that it is apparent that neither of us copied the other being that both systems were developed right around the same time?



Posted by: Hench

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro View Post
Didn't I say that it is apparent that neither of us copied the other being that both systems were developed right around the same time?
I thought you were saying that your idea came out then he quickly created a similar program, just calling it a different name.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moondogg View Post
I thought you were saying that your idea came out then he quickly created a similar program, just calling it a different name.
No, not at all. I don't even know what his program is. I just know he started working on it somewhere around the year 2000, which is exactly when I began toying with PRRS.



Posted by: Hench

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro View Post
No, not at all. I don't even know what his program is. I just know he started working on it somewhere around the year 2000, which is exactly when I began toying with PRRS.
Ah right, sorry about that, can be hard to figure out context over the interent at times.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moondogg View Post
Ah right, sorry about that, can be hard to figure out context over the interent at times.
No worries. Honest mistakes happen to all of us.



Posted by: rantorcha

Quote:
Originally Posted by bricklayer85 View Post
I saw the date on hst, it was a while back. Can you tell me what makes your routine different from others?
Call me a novice, I guess....but what is "hst"?



Posted by: Built

Hypertrophy specific training.



Posted by: Stewart14

I apologize if this was already discussed in the thread, if it was let me know and I will find it, but I was wanting to ask you Eric have you ever toyed around with putting one of each of the types of "rep ranges" into the same workout? ie, a power movement, rep range movement, and a shock movement instead of rotating weekly, just do them all on the same day?

for example
bench press 3x4-6
flat db press 3x8-10
dips dropset

and just go up in weight when appropriate?



Posted by: Hench

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewart14 View Post
I apologize if this was already discussed in the thread, if it was let me know and I will find it, but I was wanting to ask you Eric have you ever toyed around with putting one of each of the types of "rep ranges" into the same workout? ie, a power movement, rep range movement, and a shock movement instead of rotating weekly, just do them all on the same day?

for example
bench press 3x4-6
flat db press 3x8-10
dips dropset

and just go up in weight when appropriate?
Built set a program up like that, Baby Got Back. It's excellent.

Got Built? » Baby Got Back



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewart14 View Post
I apologize if this was already discussed in the thread, if it was let me know and I will find it, but I was wanting to ask you Eric have you ever toyed around with putting one of each of the types of "rep ranges" into the same workout? ie, a power movement, rep range movement, and a shock movement instead of rotating weekly, just do them all on the same day?

for example
bench press 3x4-6
flat db press 3x8-10
dips dropset

and just go up in weight when appropriate?
Eric put together whats called FD/FS training. Fiber destruction/Fiber saturation that hits all the rep ranges from p/rr/s.

Here is an example of a chest w/o:
-Bench Press…2 x 3-4 (3/0/X tempo)
-Incline Press…2 x 5-6 (6/1/1 tempo)
-Incline DB Flye…2 x 7-8 (2/4/1 tempo)
-Machine Bench Press…1 x 30-40 (1/0/1 tempo; non-lock-out reps)
-Smith Incline Press…1 x 30-40 (1/0/1 tempo; non-lock-out reps)
-Cable Crossover…1 x 30-40 (1/0/1 tempo

Then youfind the nearest garbage can and throw up in it..LOL

PRRS Training - Here it is...FDFS!!!



Posted by: stephenpaul6557

Good information! I have trouble working my back muscles, I've been using machines in the gym for a months but I really see no difference.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOPIE View Post
Eric put together whats called FD/FS training. Fiber destruction/Fiber saturation that hits all the rep ranges from p/rr/s.

Here is an example of a chest w/o:
-Bench Press…2 x 3-4 (3/0/X tempo)
-Incline Press…2 x 5-6 (6/1/1 tempo)
-Incline DB Flye…2 x 7-8 (2/4/1 tempo)
-Machine Bench Press…1 x 30-40 (1/0/1 tempo; non-lock-out reps)
-Smith Incline Press…1 x 30-40 (1/0/1 tempo; non-lock-out reps)
-Cable Crossover…1 x 30-40 (1/0/1 tempo

Then youfind the nearest garbage can and throw up in it..LOL

PRRS Training - Here it is...FDFS!!!
LOL...how true! Have done it myself



Posted by: slackadjuster

On the porcelain phone with RALPHHHHHH!



Posted by: chronicelite

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro View Post
LOL...how true! Have done it myself
Same here, and I was sore pretty much up until my next workout for that muscle, which usually subsides in 2-3 days if I have a good one.

FD FS is not for "newbs" LOL



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by chronicelite View Post
Same here, and I was sore pretty much up until my next workout for that muscle, which usually subsides in 2-3 days if I have a good one.

FD FS is not for "newbs" LOL
No, not at all for newbs. Truly just for the very advanced!



Posted by: stephenpaul6557

Quote:
Originally Posted by wazzup View Post
hmm.. the first two links don't seem to work ( I get redirected to an endorsement for Tom Venuto's BFFM)

Week 1 power.doc
IronMagazine Bodybuilding Forum - discuss bodybuilding & fitness

Week 2 rep range.doc
IronMagazine Bodybuilding Forum - discuss bodybuilding & fitness

The third one does work though.

Week 3 shock.doc
but that one isn't
IronMagazine Bodybuilding Forum - discuss bodybuilding & fitness

but

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...achmentid=9617

(hoover over them with the mouse to see the difference)
yes I encountered the same problem with the links. I was able to fix it though.



Posted by: Motorcycled00d

Would this be a decent split for this type of routine?

Monday - chest/bis

Tuesday - legs

Thursday - back

Friday - shoulders/tris

I'm just wondering how you would split up the different muscle groups?

Thanks,

Blaine



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorcycled00d View Post
Would this be a decent split for this type of routine?

Monday - chest/bis

Tuesday - legs

Thursday - back

Friday - shoulders/tris

I'm just wondering how you would split up the different muscle groups?

Thanks,

Blaine
Switch monday and tuesday. Do legs on monday that way they have 2 full days of rest before hitting your back workout



Posted by: Built

Well, to be fair, there are different kinds of periodization - linear, undulating, conjugate...



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by bricklayer85 View Post
I've been doing some poking around here and there were mentions that this is just periodization. Why not just call it that?
Because it is nothing like basic periodization...and it is a unique program.



Posted by: Built

What's "basic" periodization, Eric?



Posted by: Gazhole

Quote:
Originally Posted by bricklayer85 View Post
I've been doing some poking around here and there were mentions that this is just periodization. Why not just call it that?
Well, Westside is "just" periodization. The Smolov Squat Program is "just" periodization. As are German Volume Training, the Texas Method, 5x5 Program...

All these programs use a form of periodization, and all of those forms of periodization are slightly different. Westside is Conjugate because it incorporates DE, ME, and RE work into each cycle, Smolov is undulating because you squat at varying intensities throughout each cycle.

Calling something "Undulating Periodization Squat Program" takes a long time to say, and doesn't have a great ring to it. Could be the best program in the world, but the name doesn't exactly draw you in to trying it.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Built View Post
What's "basic" periodization, Eric?
When the average trainee (most out there) thinks periodization they think only about changes in rep ranges and load (basic). Of course, those with more knowledge understand that some programs do go beyond changing these two variables.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by bricklayer85 View Post
But you didnt explain "basic" periodization yet. Care to?
Still sounds to me like you "developed" another flavor of basic vanilla.
Well, actually, there is no such thing a basic periodization really. There are several periodization models, and PRRS does not follow any of them to any true degree. When I developed PRRS, I was not following any particular protocol that was already out there, but simply combining methods that approach hypertrophy from several different angles, looking to affect the many mechanisms in the body responsible for growth. And being that thousands and thousands of people around the world are enjoying its benefits, I suppose I have been successful, whether you wish to think so or not



Posted by: danzik17

Quote:
Originally Posted by bricklayer85 View Post
But you didnt explain "basic" periodization yet. Care to?
Still sounds to me like you "developed" another flavor of basic vanilla.
Yes he did dude - most people only vary their loads and rep ranges without taking other things into account such as rest intervals or time under load (both concentric and eccentric).

I know it's been the latest fad to rip on gopro for stuff (I disagree with a lot of his supplementation claims as well fyi) but I don't see the point to ripping on him for this. It's a decent workout routine that seems to have a decent balance between pushing and pulling movements which is more than I can say for the most common routines that I see.



Posted by: Gazhole

Quote:
Originally Posted by bricklayer85 View Post
Still waiting. I know Mr. Gazhole could easily explain this being that he wrote an article and pretty much knows what he speaks.
I appreciate the confidence but i'm not the one with a long list of clients, a website, an ebook, a wall full of qualifications, and a competitive record in bodybuilding.

Whether you like it or not, Eric has been doing this since i was literally in Nappies. Thats not to say what i've written is wrong or doesn't work, but i think you're nitpicking here for the sake of nothing.

I've said before im not a massive fan of PRRS, and i think some of what Eric has said in the past has been questionable or unsubstantiated, but the system HAS worked for me and obviously works for others. Like danzik said, a lot of people have been jumping on the "rip on Gopro" bandwagon lately, and it's just getting old whichever side of the fence you're on.



Posted by: Ralphie

Not to divert from the current conversation, but I gotta post it somewhere.

Recently just got back into the gym after a long loooooooooooooooong break from lifting, hell a long break from exercise and any kind healthy diet too.

Started doing p/rr/s again recently and I must say I'm starting to remember why I liked it. Its like putting on your favorite pair of shoes, it just feels good.

When i was much younger (about 17) this program helped me bulk up massively.



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralphie View Post
Not to divert from the current conversation, but I gotta post it somewhere.

Recently just got back into the gym after a long loooooooooooooooong break from lifting, hell a long break from exercise and any kind healthy diet too.

Started doing p/rr/s again recently and I must say I'm starting to remember why I liked it. Its like putting on your favorite pair of shoes, it just feels good.

When i was much younger (about 17) this program helped me bulk up massively.
Well, thank you for the feedback!



Posted by: joeaquin

Hi there I have been looking through the old posts and I have learnt a great deal already!

I plan to start p/rr/s after I finish the 10 week size surge program.

Is it true that p/rr/s can be done in 1 hour per day? Then that will be very good news

And i wonder if I need equal amount of protein on off days? Like I need to take supplements and whey protein on off days as well?
thanks so much!



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeaquin View Post
Hi there I have been looking through the old posts and I have learnt a great deal already!

I plan to start p/rr/s after I finish the 10 week size surge program.

Is it true that p/rr/s can be done in 1 hour per day? Then that will be very good news

And i wonder if I need equal amount of protein on off days? Like I need to take supplements and whey protein on off days as well?
thanks so much!
Yes you can get a workout done in 60 minutes. You always need to get your protien in each day. You should be taking in at least 1gram on protien per bodyweight. What supplements are you taking?



Posted by: joeaquin

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOPIE View Post
Yes you can get a workout done in 60 minutes. You always need to get your protien in each day. You should be taking in at least 1gram on protien per bodyweight. What supplements are you taking?
thanks for the answers!
It seems rather difficult for me to eat every 2-3 hours in day time. I am always outside and bring milkshakes along with me.
I am taking multivitamins, buffered creatine and BCAAs though I am not sure if I am taking them correctly. I take the creatine and BCAAs before each workout. Then whey protein after work out. Sometimes I have long releasing protein before i go to bed.



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeaquin View Post
thanks for the answers!
It seems rather difficult for me to eat every 2-3 hours in day time. I am always outside and bring milkshakes along with me.
I am taking multivitamins, buffered creatine and BCAAs though I am not sure if I am taking them correctly. I take the creatine and BCAAs before each workout. Then whey protein after work out. Sometimes I have long releasing protein before i go to bed.
Take in creatine post workout also with your bcaa's. You can either take them half hour after your post w/o shake or with your shake. Either way would be fine.



Posted by: zeebodybuilder

I really wanted to try this P/RR/S training plan out. I coudnt buy the dvd as it would take few weeks for it to be delivered to my UK address. So I decided to buy the ebook. I bought the ebook 1 hour ago it hasnt yet arrived in my email.

I would like to know has any1 else here used the ebook. Is it really worth it. Does it explain everything and makes everything simple for any user to understand.

I use the BB.Com forum, there many memebers told me all the information I need to start out the P/RR/S training is around the forums and I have to search for it, But I really couldnt find anything. So I decided to buy the ebbok as I thought it would be the fastest way to get into the program.

I am now being told the ebook really isnt any good as it doesnt address the needs, goals, strengths, weaknesses of each person and that the dvd was better. So Im abit confused now as IV already paid for the ebook. What should I have done.



Posted by: joeaquin

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOPIE View Post
Take in creatine post workout also with your bcaa's. You can either take them half hour after your post w/o shake or with your shake. Either way would be fine.

Thanks! And what should I take pre-work out?



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeaquin View Post
Thanks! And what should I take pre-work out?
pre w/o:

-1 1/2 hours before w/o-protien carb meal
-30-45 minutes later Kre-Alkalyn and BCAA's



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeebodybuilder View Post
I really wanted to try this P/RR/S training plan out. I coudnt buy the dvd as it would take few weeks for it to be delivered to my UK address. So I decided to buy the ebook. I bought the ebook 1 hour ago it hasnt yet arrived in my email.

I would like to know has any1 else here used the ebook. Is it really worth it. Does it explain everything and makes everything simple for any user to understand.

I use the BB.Com forum, there many memebers told me all the information I need to start out the P/RR/S training is around the forums and I have to search for it, But I really couldnt find anything. So I decided to buy the ebbok as I thought it would be the fastest way to get into the program.

I am now being told the ebook really isnt any good as it doesnt address the needs, goals, strengths, weaknesses of each person and that the dvd was better. So Im abit confused now as IV already paid for the ebook. What should I have done.
Do you have the sample template for P/RR/S? If not here is a link for it and to the P/RR/S forum where i garuntee you any question you ask about PRRS will be answered.

Back

POWER: week 1

- Rack deadlift...3 x 3-6
- Bent row...3 x 4-6
- Weighted chin...2-3 x 4-6
- CG seated row...2-3 x 4-6

REP RANGE: week 2

- CG weighted chin...2 x 6-8
- WG T-Bar row...2 x 8-10
- Dumbell row...2 x 10-12
- Pullover...2 x 12-15

SHOCK: week 3

- Pullover/WG pulldown superset...1-2 x 8-10 each
- Stiff arm pulldown/reverse grip bent row...1-2 x 8-10 each
- CG seated pully row dropset...1 x 6-8, drop, 6-8, drop, 6-8

Biceps/Triceps

POWER: week 1

- Barbell curl...2 x 4-6
- Preacher curl...2 x 4-6
- Hammer curl...1-2 x 4-6
- CG bench press...3 x 4-6
- Skull crush...2 x 4-6
- Single arm dumbell extension...1-2 x 4-6

REP RANGE: week 2

- Alternating dumbell curl...2 x 6-8
- Cable curl...2 x 8-10
- Concentration curl...1-2 x 10-12
- Weighted dip...3 x 6-8
- Pushdown...2 x 8-10
- Kickback...1-2 x 10-12

SHOCK: week 3

- EZ bar curl/CG chin superset...1 x 6-10 each
- Preacher curl/reverse curl superset...1 x 6-10 each
- Dropset cable single arm curl...1 x 6-10, drop 6-10
- Pushdown/CG bench press superset...1-2 x 6-10 each
- Reverse grip pushdown/incline overhead extension superset...1-2 x 6-10 each
- Dropset weighted bench dip...1 x 8-10, drop 8-10

Chest

POWER: week 1

- Dumbell bench press...3 x 4-6
- Incline press...3 x 4-6
- Weighted dips...2 x 4-6

REP RANGE: week 2

- Incline dumbell press...3 x 6-8
- Bench press...3 x 8-10
- Flye...2 x 10-12

SHOCK: week 3

- Superset...cable crossover/incline smith press...1-2 x 8-10 reps each
- Superset...incline flye/dips...1 x 8-10 reps each
- Dropset...machine bench press...1 x 8-10, drop 6-8, drop 6-8 optional

Deltoids

POWER: week 1

- Military press...2-3 x 4-6
- Upright row...2-3 x 4-6
- "Cheat" lateral...2 x 4-6

REP RANGE: week 2

- Single arm dumbell press...2 x 6-8
- Bent lateral...2-3 x 8-10
- Cable side lateral...2 x 10-12

SHOCK: week 3

- Seated side lateral/hammer machine press superset...1-2 x 8-10
- Severse pec deck/WG upright row superset...1-2 x 8-10
- Cable front raise dropset...1 x 6-8, drop 6-8, drop 6-8 optional

Legs

POWER: week 1

- Squats...3 x 4-6
- Leg press...3 x 4-6
- Single leg extension...2 x 4-6
- Lying leg curl...3 x 4-6
- Stiff deadlift...2-3 x 4-6

REP RANGE: week 2

- Leg extension...2 x 8-10
- Hack squat...3 x 10-12
- One legged leg press...3 x 12-15
- Lying leg curl...2 x 6-8
- Stiff deadlift...2 x 8-10
- Single leg curl or seated leg curl...1-2 x 10-12

SHOCK: week 3

- Superset: leg extension/front squat...1-2 x 8-10 each
- Superset: leg extension/sissy squat or leg press...1-2 x 8-10 each
- Dropset: lunge...1 x 8-10, drop, 8-10
- Superset: leg curl seated or lying/toes pointed hyperextension...1-2 x 8-10 each
- Dropset: single leg curl...1-2 x 8-10, drop, 8-10

The only note is that once you run through PRRS a few times you should advance RR week to the following ranges: 7-9, 10-12, 13-15, 16-20 (for larger bodyparts).



Posted by: zeebodybuilder

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOPIE View Post
Do you have the sample template for P/RR/S? If not here is a link for it and to the P/RR/S forum where i garuntee you any question you ask about PRRS will be answered.


The only note is that once you run through PRRS a few times you should advance RR week to the following ranges: 7-9, 10-12, 13-15, 16-20 (for larger bodyparts).
Hi thank you very much for your reply. Where is the link. as you mentioned it above.

So this template and exercises you have listed above I could just use these and the sets and reps as stated above.

What about if you gym doesnt have the T bar row machine and some other stuff listed in the above exercises list. What would be the alternative to them..

Where is the P/RR/S forum. Sorry bit confused..

Many thanks once again for replying.



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeebodybuilder View Post
Hi thank you very much for your reply. Where is the link. as you mentioned it above.

So this template and exercises you have listed above I could just use these and the sets and reps as stated above.

What about if you gym doesnt have the T bar row machine and some other stuff listed in the above exercises list. What would be the alternative to them..

Where is the P/RR/S forum. Sorry bit confused..

Many thanks once again for replying.
Someone erased the link for the template. here it is again. yes follow the template. If you dont have a t-bar machine you can always put an olympic bar in a corner place the weigths on the ohter end away from the corner and do them that way.

If they erase the link again look at my sig for the web site and you can go to the forum from there



Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOPIE View Post
Someone erased the link for the template. here it is again. yes follow the template. If you dont have a t-bar machine you can always put an olympic bar in a corner place the weigths on the ohter end away from the corner and do them that way.

If they erase the link again look at my sig for the web site and you can go to the forum from there
I did, that is why I copied and pasted the template above.



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince View Post
I did, that is why I copied and pasted the template above.
Out of curiousity how come? It was just to erics site and not a supplement site...like i said just curious...



Posted by: Prince

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOPIE View Post
Out of curiousity how come? It was just to erics site and not a supplement site...like i said just curious...
it has nothing to do with Eric, it's a bodybuilding forum, which is considered to be a "competing forum".



Posted by: stew2k8

awesome thread, cheers guys





Posted by: vernongetzler

tell me the basics of the Body Building..??



Posted by: vernongetzler

hiuiiiii



Posted by: Gazhole

Quote:
Originally Posted by vernongetzler View Post
tell me the basics of the Body Building..??
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/tr...ing-101-a.html

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/ne...1-newbies.html

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/ne...scle-mass.html





Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by vernongetzler View Post
tell me the basics of the Body Building..??
Train hard and smart. Eat the right foods. Get your rest.

DO THIS CONSISTENTLY AND WITH FAITH IN THE OUTCOME!



Posted by: stayfit2008

Eric,...On my previous split,..High intensity low reps,..4-8 I got pretty strong but didn't really gain in size.

I would like to try the PRRS training split. What can I expect? I am 43ys. and a New Natural Masters NGA Pro Bodybuilder looking for another split to excell me to the next level.

Thanks

Stayfit2008

P.S. Just ordered the DVD



Posted by: rockhardly

I am new to this site and have been reading about various workout routines and am beginning my first week of prrs. I have been working out for a long time and am in great shape. However, my workouts have been more on the maintainance side, nutrition not exactly great, and my legs have been neglected due to lack of right equipment. Well, I have decided to hit it hard for the next 6 months and see what happens. My first steps have been: Nutrition greatly improved; bought another set of bar/weights and built a squat rack; homework on nutrition, excercises, etc. So, as I start I would like to know what you guys think about the following split. If you don't like something or is in the wrong place, tell me where you think it should be and why, please.

MONDAY:
Chest
Triceps
Abs

TEUSDAY:
Hamstrings
Lats
Calves

THURSDAY:
Biceps
Delts/traps
Abs

FRIDAY:
Quads
Back
Calves


How does it look? Am i missing something?



Posted by: HOOPIE

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockhardly View Post
I am new to this site and have been reading about various workout routines and am beginning my first week of prrs. I have been working out for a long time and am in great shape. However, my workouts have been more on the maintainance side, nutrition not exactly great, and my legs have been neglected due to lack of right equipment. Well, I have decided to hit it hard for the next 6 months and see what happens. My first steps have been: Nutrition greatly improved; bought another set of bar/weights and built a squat rack; homework on nutrition, excercises, etc. So, as I start I would like to know what you guys think about the following split. If you don't like something or is in the wrong place, tell me where you think it should be and why, please.

MONDAY:
Chest
Triceps
Abs

TEUSDAY:
Hamstrings
Lats
Calves

THURSDAY:
Biceps
Delts/traps
Abs

FRIDAY:
Quads
Back
Calves


How does it look? Am i missing something?
IMO i feel you need to make some changes in your split. Something more like this:

Mon-Legs
Tue-chest/bi's (push /pull instead of a push/push. plus your tris get worked with chest)
Wed-off
Thurs- Back-upper and lower
Friday-delts/tris(if you want you can put tris in on back day even)
sat-off
sun-off



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by stayfit2008 View Post
Eric,...On my previous split,..High intensity low reps,..4-8 I got pretty strong but didn't really gain in size.

I would like to try the PRRS training split. What can I expect? I am 43ys. and a New Natural Masters NGA Pro Bodybuilder looking for another split to excell me to the next level.

Thanks

Stayfit2008

P.S. Just ordered the DVD
Thank you for ordering my DVD...that is appreciated, and I hope you find it helpful.

It is hard to say exactly what you can expect, as each of us grows at different rates genetically, and then of course you have to factor in ALL other obvious variables.

That said, I can tell you that combined with proper diet, rest and supplements, PRRS will likely be the most productive program you have tried for adding BOTH size and strength.

And congrats on that pro card!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: jasoncscs

5x5 is a great workout program for sets and reps to gain size and strength



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by jasoncscs View Post
5x5 is a great workout program for sets and reps to gain size and strength
Yes it is! But like most programs, your body will grow stagnant on it after a while. Variation is key for more advanced lifters!



Posted by: EL_PADRINO

I want informations about HIT program (high intensity training). What is it for? and how can I perform it in details.

Thnxxx



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by EL_PADRINO View Post
I want informations about HIT program (high intensity training). What is it for? and how can I perform it in details.

Thnxxx
You should put up this up in the training section.



Posted by: DiGiTaL

Just finished my shock week.

F U Eric.

Great stuff, time to unload and repeat. Added a lot of mass with this routine.



Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by DiGiTaL View Post
Just finished my shock week.

F U Eric.

Great stuff, time to unload and repeat. Added a lot of mass with this routine.
LOL...I love when people curse at me!



Posted by: capuamuscle

Hey P/RR/S Team

I'm 17, and have been working out since i was around 14 (Imma rocky inspired fan XD) and i've just finished my Power week, and done my first day of rep range week, and have to say im thoroughly loving the programme so far!

Now i pretty much seem to have my diet in check, plus throwing in the odd cheat meal (Im still young so i figure i've got a while before i need to seriously cut back , probably not the right mentality but its not killed me yet XD)

Anyway my question for you guys is that i seem to be taking a LONNG time in the gym, around an hour and half, and i think this is due to my workout regime that i've done based on P/RR/S system. my question is, could i be overkilling myself in the gym?

Heres my routine based on the P/RR/S system, based on the power week since i figure thats easiest to base on:

Mon : Chest, Delts, Abs
chest:
BB bench press - 4 x 6
Incline bench press 3 x 6
decline press 3 x 6
pec fly 3 x 6

Delts
Military press - 4 x 6
Lateral raise - 3 x 6
Rear raise - 3 x 6
cable fly 3 x 6

Abs:
Crunch - 4 x 20
Leg Raises - 4 x 15
Broom twist - 4 x 50
Stomach vacuum - 3 x 30seconds.

Now usually with the Abs i take just enough time to catch my breathe rather than wait 5 minutes, i'm not really sure what the point is on waiting 5 minutes on ab exercises, but i only do floor/broom work and dont do them with any weight (Personal preference is that i seem to feel the muscle working more than when i use weighted exercises such as machines or rope crunches)

Thank you TEAM GP!



Posted by: gopro

Quote:
Originally Posted by capuamuscle View Post
Hey P/RR/S Team

I'm 17, and have been working out since i was around 14 (Imma rocky inspired fan XD) and i've just finished my Power week, and done my first day of rep range week, and have to say im thoroughly loving the programme so far!

Now i pretty much seem to have my diet in check, plus throwing in the odd cheat meal (Im still young so i figure i've got a while before i need to seriously cut back , probably not the right mentality but its not killed me yet XD)

Anyway my question for you guys is that i seem to be taking a LONNG time in the gym, around an hour and half, and i think this is due to my workout regime that i've done based on P/RR/S system. my question is, could i be overkilling myself in the gym?

Heres my routine based on the P/RR/S system, based on the power week since i figure thats easiest to base on:

Mon : Chest, Delts, Abs
chest:
BB bench press - 4 x 6
Incline bench press 3 x 6
decline press 3 x 6
pec fly 3 x 6

Delts
Military press - 4 x 6
Lateral raise - 3 x 6
Rear raise - 3 x 6
cable fly 3 x 6

Abs:
Crunch - 4 x 20
Leg Raises - 4 x 15
Broom twist - 4 x 50
Stomach vacuum - 3 x 30seconds.

Now usually with the Abs i take just enough time to catch my breathe rather than wait 5 minutes, i'm not really sure what the point is on waiting 5 minutes on ab exercises, but i only do floor/broom work and dont do them with any weight (Personal preference is that i seem to feel the muscle working more than when i use weighted exercises such as machines or rope crunches)

Thank you TEAM GP!
I am glad you are enjoying my PRRS system. My OWN workouts generally take me 90 minutes from start to finish, which is about the maximum time I feel someone should spend on weights. That said, if this feels too long to you, feel free to cut back a bit on your rest periods. Try just 3 min between sets on Power Week, 2 min on RR week and 1 min on Shock week. This will get you out much more quickly without compromising the principles of the program.



Posted by: Faus

I bought the DVD a few months ago and me and a friend spent 3 months with the program. We saw great gains (will post data later) and I just wanted to say job well done



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