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Opinion on this Short Cycle....

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Posted by: camarosuper6

Was reading through some various opinions on short cycles, and came across a certain combo that was supposedly a very nice one for a 4 weeker. The basic ratinonal behind this basic combo is low estrogen levels, quick rebounding HPTA, small KEEPABLE gains of 5 to 10 lbs per cycle, low water retention, better overall for health benefits in the long run.

Running say... 4 to 6 of these per year can add up to a nice 35 to 45 lbs of lbm.

The combo was

Nandrolone phenylpropionate
Winstrol Depot
Tren
Anavar

During the cycle, 500 IU HCG every 4th day, along with proper use of Nolva PCT.

What do you guys think? Pretty intriguing to me.


Posted by: ZECH

Tren is high to extreme on HPTA, so I would think PCT would be the same length as most cycles. Might as well run a full cycle..............I doubt you get much benefit from the anavar unless in HIGH doses. I would save my money on that.


Posted by: Power Rabbit

deca takes time.....it aint a quick drug

var is weak and worthless compared to tren etc

no test there +tren + deca = no erictile function for a while

short cycles do nothing but through your body out o whack..min gear cycle should 8 weeks...there are effectiuve short term cycles, but they usually are for a specific purpose and are hard on the body(espically sides wise)


Posted by: Mudge

NPP is a short ester, fairly popular but I dont happen to feel much with deca other than the claimed cushioning help. I love short esters but dont really plan on NPP at the moment.

You've got a ton of shutdown drugs but no testosterone, not my kind of stack.

Test prop and/or test prop + fina and/or test prop, fina and oral. I dont need anything else.


Posted by: JerseyDevil

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6
Was reading through some various opinions on short cycles, and came across a certain combo that was supposedly a very nice one for a 4 weeker. The basic ratinonal behind this basic combo is low estrogen levels, quick rebounding HPTA, small KEEPABLE gains of 5 to 10 lbs per cycle, low water retention, better overall for health benefits in the long run.
I remember seeing this proposed method somewhere. The guy seemed to know what he was talking about, but IIRC some other knowledgable people dissected it and eventually dismissed it as not being a good idea.

Like Mudge said, the most glaring thing is, where's the test? Secondly, I think its pretty much accepted that it is the longer cycles that make it easier to keep gains, not the shorter ones. It gives your body a chance to get accustomed to higher hormone levels, and to carrying, and feeding more muscle. Short cycles cause a yo-yo effect in your hormones.

The last thing is, ok so you run 6 of these 4 weekers. That's 24 weeks a year that you're 'on'. Why not just run 3 conventional 10 week cycles for a total of 30 weeks a year you are on? Use an anti-e to keep estrogen levels low, and HCG to aid HPTA recovery, and I believe you'll accomplish the same thing, but with more keepable gains and without the yo-yo effect.


Posted by: Supermans Daddy

Yeah Playa , I read sometime about short cycles,I understood that theory behind it, but I ain't feel'n tha reason'n. I'm down wit JD, 24 weeks is 24 weeks. Why not bust 3, 8 week runs ( which is in my mind a short cycle) and do tha damn thang!Plus I ain't see'n how bounce'n back and forth on short rolls as safer or for that fact even safe. However I feel you about that Test issue, everybody here knows how I feel bout that shit.Test don't like me, and I don't like it. TREN IS THA SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peace and Love !


Posted by: Mudge

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6
Running say... 4 to 6 of these per year can add up to a nice 35 to 45 lbs of lbm.
With good genetics and the eating dicipline of a champion, otherwise we would all be Olympians by the end of a year with a single year round cycle, or in 2 years like your above example.

Sorry but its not that easy welcome to earth.


Posted by: camarosuper6

Heh... I was just quoting what I was reading.


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