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Originally Posted by carbchick
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124P 9.5F 35C Ab-solved and HEAT arrived, hurrah. |
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She got you there Novo 
You have to eat to lose.
Sure, you're right, whey is (almost) my only protein source ... but that's because it's easy/I like it - it doesn't stop me hitting target macros.
But eating without appetite, on that I hear you. Damn hard, and not really something I can force either.
Then, over time as your body adapts to the higher intake - and, importantly - you see the size and strength gains you want so very much, they work as positive reinforcement and it becomes easier. Could be talking out my ass of course.|
Originally Posted by carbchick
Novo, thanks for your words. I too need to practise what I preach. I realised the other day that as I first went to weight watchers at the age of 13 I've been dieting for 24 years which is a lot of stress to dole out on self. Trouble is once you start w. disordered eating, you're never free. Like recovering alcoholics, permanently in remission. I wish I'd never started. I wish I'd never shaved my legs. But I did and I have to deal.
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Anyways, good to see you here, I'll definately be following
I hope you'll kick my ass when necessary for I'm a self-obsessed self-pitying whinging cow as the above post makes perfectly clear. I dunno about healthy ... what IS that, anyway?
My chest is so sore from yesterday I can barely touch myself by my collarbone. (That just sounds funny.)
Less doesn't mean better results as you know.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
Good news: finally got online with Radio 4 which means I'm back with The Archers in time for Emma and Will's wedding.
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| Bad news: needing confirmation of pudginess (shoot me someone) I got a bodyfat test and it was depressing indeed, 17.1%. that's up almost 2 points since February. Alas I can see it anyway, I have been a slacker and it's written on my body. I'm in danger of becoming a skinny fat again and it's up to me to change direction. |
17% body fat doesn't seem bad to me. I've never had mine tested though- I'd probably cry! I'm scared of what it would say!!
get online with the Beeb, kiddo! but be warned it can prompt (fleeting) feelings of homesickness. Fleeting because you soon remember you're plugged into the ONLY thing that's good about the Damp Isle.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
Goals, shmoals. Here they are then: 1) enjoy it 2) enjoy it 3) enjoy it. Everything comes from those 3.
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EXCELLENT attitude girl!!
Dont worry about the 17%bf! thats not bad at all!!! Just pushing yourself back on track and youll be right where you want to be again!! 500 reps? squats?
thats scary!!
) way is easier for me right now
I'm determined to be honest with myself and not put any diet plan in place if I can't truly commit. It's better for me to focus on getting rewards from working out, and that means giving it my ALL.
I don't know what came after the 500 rep squats ... b/c I stuck my fingers in my ears and said 'I can't hear you!' so we'll never know about the 800 rep deads .. and maybe that's just as well
Being an uptight Brit, it took a long time 4 me to get the courage for the journal thingy. There's something self-indulgent about it that I still find awkward. maybe that makes no sense to most people ... lol I am freakin' Abnormal but it isn't me honest it's my --- upbringing
I love your journal
That's NOT going to happen this time.
hey Jill
Nice to have you looking in! Jill your journal warms me up, it's nice to know there are places in the world where it is hot b/c it is FREEZING here. Most Un-Australian ... how dare they? I go to bed dressed like someone out of a Victorian novel - bedcap and bedsocks. I may even purchase a flannel nightie, that would be becoming.Hey Jill my parents are visitng Canada in August for 3 weeks. These are people who consider a trip to the supermarket a major expedition requiring several days of planning. So I hope the natives are friendly
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Originally Posted by carbchick
yoo hoo, Jodi, Novo yes I am busted the same little ray of sunshine from AL.
Novo it was opened by customs but yeah it got through. And they didn't steal the T-shirt. 720? is that all? but wait, novo, aren't you the chick whose food entries read thusly: 40g whey 40g whey 40g whey 40g whey er, that's it ?? |
. Mentally, though, I am there, starting to disappear into the session when I'm in the gym, mind and muscle - fabulous.
This is a timely reminder that I must order some more (... or should I cycle it? will have to check that out).
It burns like hell when I put it on but the shelf of fat is still there. After 2 weeks I should be seeing some results, no?
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Originally Posted by Twin Peak
Glad to hear you are enjoying H.E.A.T. Stack. I am also glad you cleared that a "dog's bollocks" was a good thing.
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I agree 
Yeah macros are looking better. Just taking it one day at a time
This is the first time I've consistently and honestly monitored intake in this totally anal way b/c I'm determined to find out what works/doesn't/ triggers binges/ boosts energy and mood, and also what IS maintenance? I'm sick of not really knowing.
- what would you say, then?


I envy these people who say, right now I'm gonna cut. Right, now I'm gonna bulk and they do, and their bodies respond and their minds don't fuck it up. I'm very clear about how I want to look just lack the balls to see it through. 
. 2 guys were discussing the GI of different brands of bread. I don't know why but this strikes me as odd. I don't know any guys who would do that. my father for example would think GI has something to do with motorsport, or Elvis.
12 mins on the elliptical w. some sprints. wouldn't call it HIIT but there were faster and slower bits.
, I've started 10g of inositol/day taken in 2 doses.

can you tell I'm nervous of increasing the weight here? starting to dig into my collarbone
BUT most excellent for the burn. and for getting your form right, for there can be no leaning forwards, ho no.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
Food: no carb day
126P 27F and veggies Started Phenogen. Felt good. |

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Originally Posted by Monolith
Do you know why customs wont let the HEAT through? Is it for one certain ingredient? The alpha-yohimbine, maybe?
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Originally Posted by carbchick
hey novo! thanks for being a nosey witch. nosey witches are welcome here. re Phenogen, well I am getting my calories up,and I mean really UP, every Hi day. and I am not that lean. Really - no, REALLY - no ... 'sides, I am not cutting; I am decompositioning
I don't like the sound of muscle loss though. was that information about that chick in the phenogen questions thread? only and cos I remember reading a post from jodi saying she's at 15% bf and can't train to the max, and would phenogen be a good idea, and the reply was yes. ok I have thoroughly confused myself now. am off to do some re-reading. |
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Originally Posted by Novo
Yup, yohimbine is banned here. They also have a hard-on for ephedrine. And much, much more.
They like to keep us fat and slow down here. Sure, it sucks up the tax $$ (our obesity problems are approaching yours), but really they are just saving us from ourselves dontcha know ... Informed decisions for self? Impossible ![]() |
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Originally Posted by Monolith
customs isnt exactly filled with pharmacists, so they might be stopping products that dont actually fall under your drug laws "just to be safe."
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Recovery of said substance will cost me AU$400. my details have been retained on record and I am now a Named and Dangerous person. bang go by chances of permanent residency then.

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Originally Posted by carbchick
mono, you (with or without HEAT, honest!) will be most welcome. but be warned I live in a deeply fashionable location, unlike Novo
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Originally Posted by Novo
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well that would be because this was my first session with the trainer who's earmarked me for progress. and her philosophy is to max out on everything, every time. so each exe was to total failure. starting with lowest weight, max out, then up and up till can't do any reps at all, then back down, failure each time. it was ... sweaty, and quick. and more than a little nauseating. especially the squats. Felt dorky going up and down endlessly with just the bar on my shoulders. Kind of went in time with the music, tempted to put a shimmy in there - until I got to squat #3768 when it started to hurt a bit. then, a lot. Add 10kg, and i'm dying. one of the trainers said to me afterwards 'don't ever let her train you she's a sadist!' But will it build muscle? well she says, yes. We'll see.
then back again. it all makes for a pounding workout. mofo mode.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
don't even go there. I can out-filth you, let's leave it at that
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middle one, 260. It's amazing how light 110 feels after those 2.

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Originally Posted by Monolith
Im sure your doc knows what he's doing, though.
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, viz. 50 mins running in the park, plus 10x100m sprints, jog-back recovery. Can I say I was utterly pooped. Little old lady walking past said, 'you've got a lot of energy, dear'. you can fool some of the folks some of the time ... my face looked like a


that's at least 50% more cals than I should be getting. ah well
onwards and onwards ...
Finally just went ahead and did the patches and gum, sometimes the lozenges too. I was never heavy smoker so I didn't use the 21mg and instead started with the 14mg and if it wasn't enough, I'd have some of the gum. I did the 14mg for 6 weeks before I went to the 7mg and then did the 7mg for another 6 weeks. It worked like a charm.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
Simply ate carbs and some protein until I felt I'd had enough. carbs were Uncle Toby's Wheaties (Emma these are hi-glycemic yes?) and cornflakes and oh yeah I think there was an apple muffin in there as well.
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15/20
to that. Don't care.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
thnx Emma ... muffin lower GI than wheaties?
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(but: 'healthy muffins' surely some oxymoron?) although - I'm not keen on muffins per se, the apple one was just b/c it was handy and I wanted a quick sugar kick. however you've piqued my interest in the the NNMs: where in the City? I'm Suburban Susan remember
we did some Ockerisms + they were tickled to learn that dunny is a toilet and cobber a friend and if you're crook you're sick.
With an english background, you should be pumpin' out the healthy-living cookbooks in no time. 
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Originally Posted by carbchick
with a rave review like that how can I not?
(but: 'healthy muffins' surely some oxymoron?) although - I'm not keen on muffins per se, the apple one was just b/c it was handy and I wanted a quick sugar kick. however you've piqued my interest in the the NNMs: where in the City? I'm Suburban Susan remember [/b] |

I have a friend who swears by these, she's in love. Thus far I've resisted their lure ... I fear not for much longer!
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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
(just near the kabab place, opposite the water fountain)
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I can only hope that's a good thing.
; pole-axed. Er, where DID the day go?
back exhaustion: tried to do a db row with a 25 at the end ... and couldn't lift the bloody thing
in my enthusiasm for deads, I rubbed a smashing blister under the callous on one hand. Which made cooking with passionfruit, later on, a lotta fun.| petite marmite Henry IV (chicken soup with veggies to you and me); filet steak with herbed crust; passionfruit souffle. Easy peasy. |
sounds excellent!
| Absolutely vile dish - no one, but no one would want to know how you cook 'guinea fowl and cabbage pie' ugh ugh ugh. I hated cooking it. I shall never cook it again. |
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187P 155F 15C... food 164P 110F 10C... |


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whutt-evah --- I'm just taking advantage of some uncommon good humour and, well, happiness around self at mo. and thinking bugger it let's see if I CAN build some muscle then.
to that.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
blimey Emma, as my mother would say, you're like 'shit off a shovel' (that's a good thing, means you're sharp-eyed and a quick mover. which as we all know, you ARE.
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)| hmmm does my body notice? I THINK so. but is it going to store it all as FAT? fatfatfatfatfat??? |
| I'm just taking advantage of some uncommon good humour and, well, happiness around self at mo. and thinking bugger it let's see if I CAN build some muscle then. |
Does wonders for your mood (or, you know, it could just be those new happy drugs
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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
Umm... I guess that is a thanks?? (although being likened to crap does not usually warrant a thank you
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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
Well - 99.5% of incoming fat is immediately stored as fat (even if it is only 'breifly' before it is whisked away for use as an energy source) so storage is a moot point.. Rather, the issue is whether you have an overall calorie deficiency and whether you are in a hormonally/endocrinologically/physiologically receptive state for that deficiency... and I say - Give it time and you will see...
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Ahhhh, once again we see the magical effects of increasing calories enough so your brain can function!! Does wonders for your mood (or, you know, it could just be those new happy drugs )
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perfick.
Compared to the kicks I get out of training and gaining on everything else, is it worth doing chest? maybe I could just lob in the odd chest exe when I do other bodyparts, rather than doing 4 or 5 exes for chest at a time?
174P 158F 12C
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I'm dealing myself a double whammy by chucking in the ciggies at the same time. Marshmallow girl, here I come! |
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must be something wrong with that machine -- or my ticker. the calorie counter said 290 cals burned ... yeah right.
why do they make such arrant fallacious machines?
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Originally Posted by carbchick
having a crap food craving: Woolies apple pie. calling calling my name. 70gF, 196C and 15P in a whole pie. Not too bad I thought. 1380 cal. hmmmmmmm.
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Originally Posted by Monolith
time to find room for another nicotine patch?
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Originally Posted by carbchick
food: 164P 130F 11C oinker
having a crap food craving: Woolies apple pie. calling calling my name. 70gF, 196C and 15P in a whole pie. Not too bad I thought. 1380 cal. hmmmmmmm. ![]() |

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Originally Posted by carbchick
or a crap food patch. do u think i can get them at the pharmacy? or maybe if I just eat the pie with a coupla handfuls Fat Magnets as chasers, the cals will magically by-pass my ass ...
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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
God I love pie... There is nothing like steaming pie straight from the oven! I have an excellent recipe for a apple, pear and ginger pie with an oatmeal cookie crust...
![]() But come now - Woolies apple pie?? There has to be something better than that to waste those cals on??!! ![]() |
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Originally Posted by Monolith
hahaha, oh... well, youre stronger than I. I would have devoured that pie.
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I think I have a problem with food.
Good stuff not eating It Carbchick....Our tummies hurt so bad after!
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So much low carb food in the States that we wish were available here ... and some fool decides that what we REALLY need are Krispy Kreme franchises. Krispy damn Kreme stores that are calling my name no less. You're not helping here!!
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Originally Posted by Novo
Question!
I'm intrigued as to the switch in training and the hyoge volume you're doing now - d'you tend to respond well to volume, or is it that your goals have changed and growth (Serena's quads ) isn't so much the priority for now? |
maybe I lack guts to go for the big weights, but frankly if you can't lift it, you can't, and that's that!
I can leave the gym after a session like that and feel I might as well not have worked out. Not satisfying.
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Originally Posted by Monolith
Novo, i'll airmail you some low carb food if you can reply with a couple boxes of apricot muesli bars...
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Originally Posted by carbchick
well for me that's what makes this whole jiggy so endlessly fascinating, seeing how you respond to different things.
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FUN, rilly rilly good fun!
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Originally Posted by Novo
Wow, are our muesli bars really that good? I never knew!
Deal - but it won't be lc food you're sending ... much as I wish we had it, there's so very much more interesting, ahh, 'things' that y'all have access to ![]() Is that why you're coming back at Christmas - for our muesli bars?? |
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Originally Posted by carbchick
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carbupbingerefeedcheatcallitwhatyouwillIateafuckof alot: 148P 148F 298C |
I love it how you still calculated the macro ratios on your binge day (a mark of a truly anal-retentive personality)! 
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Apple custard donuts were decidedly a feature. as was walnut cake. man those donuts were good. crispy on the outside, fluffy and juicy within. Definitely worth the calories. |


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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
I love it how you still calculated the macro ratios on your binge day (a mark of a truly anal-retentive personality)! ![]() |
puts it in perspective. Even crap food is just P,F'nC. Hell I couldn't BEAR not knowing what I ate. That would drive me crazy.
God damn it. You have gone and done it haven't you - Now I want apple custard donuts!!! I have never tasted them (hell, I have never even seen apple custard donuts) but I want some!!
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Originally Posted by Novo
Agreed. You know what I'm loving just now? Heavy triples
FUN, rilly rilly good fun! |
by this time I didn't care what I looked like I just wanted to get home, so I balanced gym towel on head as some kind of protection. running impossible as the street and pavements were rivers of HAIL. to my left, blue sky. to my right, aaah a rainbow. sydneysiders came out onto their porches to take it all in. This in a city that never sees snow. They couldn't have been more surprised if it had rained frogs. What was really freaky was the way the temperature dropped when the hail was on the ground. I could suddenly see my breath.
Hope it all goes away as fast.
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self into submission.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
Food: 190P 85F 17C...
Too much P not enough F. too many cals, actually.... |


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Originally Posted by dalila
So you bloat when you eat too much P and not enough F? Weird!
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Food: carbupbingerefeedcheatcallitwhatyouwillIateafuckof alot: 148P 148F 298C some of it was clean. a lot of it wasn't. Apple custard doughnuts were decidedly a feature. as was walnut cake. man those doughnuts were good. crispy on the outside, fluffy and juicy within. Definitely worth the calories. |
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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
I think the bloat was due to Carbchicks "Saturday of Apple Donuts"...
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yep it was the donuts done turned me michelin. thanks Emma for clarifying that ... and hi Dalila
welcome to my world
Means that technically I could be banned for overreaching myself on squats and deadlifts.
and of course all the Thinnies I see are 'sticks', 'ridiculous', 'would blow over in strong breeze', 'miserable and starved'.
merits a double oinker
my national sarnie. bastards.
I use to love those sandwiches, probably because I love mayo.
rubbish for the hammers. 5 sets of 10-12
- 3 plates anyway. x10, x10, x9, x11 (superhuman effort)
everything.
IOW it all hangs on that 4 hours. the joys.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
pretty cool menu at college today: pan fried king prawns in herb butter, artichokes in aligrette sauce, lamb noisettes w. pesto and wilted spinach, poached pears in orange syrup. Artichokes are the devil to prepare. tricky little suckers.
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prawns, poached pears, artichokes... yummy!! How do you not eat any of this??!! I could stay away from things like the meat dishes or the really creamy/fatty stuff, but I would have serious control issues being around seafood, vegetable dishes and cakes/pies or sweet tarts all day! 
- should have been, 'gosh no, I hope not!'
this is crazy. I will be fine, I will - and I can do it. this is just silly mindgames. Once i'm in there I'll be fine. I'm not looking to cover myself in glory. I just want to pass. and then I can go on vacation.
yay I got outta the gym: knees and ankles felt fine. Forgot my watch so don't know exact time: guess it was just under an hour including toilet stop. It was splendiferous. I felt I could have gone on for ever, god I love running.
I love getting that feeling from running. and to be outside running is the best: people with their dogs, kids flying kites ...
Now I am enjoying sprints even more. (not that its any better on my knees
) I cant even explain what its does to my heart rate, I thought running left me out of breath!
i.e. i'd be as well off eating carbs as in fact, I'm not 'depleting' at all
of course it's debateable whether I can build muscle on low carb b/c I don't get any of that anabolic insulin spike PWO. but Twin Peak bulked on Atkins and he and I are cavepeople relatives, so ...
. Overslept and missed the gym. Most people when they oversleep it's like 10 or 20 mins. I overslept by 3.5 hours. And not at all refreshed, feel like a piece of crap, shivery, then the coughing begins! huzzah. And in this week of all weeks, exam week, couldn't be better! and as for the gym -- forget it.
, I don't feel up to being the slightest bit nervous. I just want to get the sodding thing over, then I can sleep.
| I'm probably eating so much protein that it's converting to glycogen - isn't that what happens, not sure of the biology here... i.e. i'd be as well off eating carbs as in fact, I'm not 'depleting' at all |

| were I to take in this many calories but on a more conventional 40/40/20 split, would I be gaining more weight (muscle/strength?). |

Get well soon and good luck with exams.
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Originally Posted by Jodi
Gluconeogenesis - the process of your liver turning excess protein into glucosose especially in the abscense of carbs
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I would believe so. Trying to put on muscle with a low carb diet is nearly impossible. Trust me on that one, I tried it for a year before I finally gave up
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I shall change it up I just need to prove it for myself. you know?
I'm sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. Get well soon and good luck with exams.
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haven't done that since April.
45F 8C
what a nuisance food is. Wish I could just not bother with it at all. Bloody synapses, faulty that's what mine are. it's all so simple on paper isn't it. and yet. I just can't fancy anything to eat, then eat the stupidest things that I don't even WANT let alone NEED, for chrissake.
ugh. I need a new head, I do really.
Bibbulmun Track looks good to me: all 963km of it.


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.... and yes I know they do nothing for hypertrophy but they sure give a great buzz.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
Friday: food 176P 39F 19C
Saturdday: Food 262P 38F 27C |
A girl can not live off protein alone...
: I shall mend my ways forthwith. in fact I have today purchased a fine bag of oats w. the intention of including same in diet this week. I think I'm ready ... I think it is time.
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Originally Posted by carbchick
Putting carbs back in tomorrow. That's the plan, anyway. mmmm, oaties! it's been a long old time
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YAY!! It will be good to see SOMETHING other than protein in your diet!! And, well, you can't go wrong with oats!
Try mixing them with cottage cheese, cinnamon and some diet jam.... Sooooo good...
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Have fun!
Seriously considered NOT going to the gym today. And in retrospect, NOT would have been the right decision. But like a dork, I went:
, it was shit, and stopped.
they were: very much what I expected.