|
|
|
|
Originally Posted by rock4832
How tall are you JD? Your 3lbs heavier than me
|
|
Originally Posted by PreMier
Damn, your heavy!
|
.
|
Originally Posted by rock4832
How tall are you JD? Your 3lbs heavier than me
|
|
Originally Posted by yellowmoomba
He's 37 lbs heavier than me |
.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
When someone asks I always say 6' cuz I'm not 6'1". My exact height is 6' 3/4"
|
I'm actually 5'11 3/4".
|
Originally Posted by fantasma62
Hey JD, long time ah?
How've you been? I hope all is well. I am just lurking around to see what you're up to... Have a great day!!! |
. That is what the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry is all about. Best rivalry in college football.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Buckeyes 37, Wolverines 21.
YES! What can I say? It was obvious Michigan had more talent, but today the Buckeyes played with more heart.... It was the perfect end to an otherwise dismal season. But hey, you guys are Big Ten champs and on the way to Pasadena anyway. Congratulations! |
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Saturday, November 20th
Piss poor squats. I'll spare the details, but yesterday I had some gastro-intestinal problems all day. I felt ok this morning, but I weighed in almost 4 lbs lighter then usual. When I started my warm-up sets, I was sweating profusely, and just lacked energy. Normally follow with SLDL's but I decided to forego them today. |
Last time i had that it was leg day too !
|
Originally Posted by gwcaton
Morning JD,
Why do gastro-intestinal problems always happen on leg days ? Last time i had that it was leg day too ! |
.
|
Originally Posted by rock4832
Hey, what's going on buddy?
|
. I can tell the PT is doing some major good, but trying to bench 275 for reps, and dead over 400 just isn't conducive to a speedy recovery.
Sorry to hear about taking a month off but you said it yourself that PT was working. Throwing the big weights around like you are it not the best thing (right now). Hopefully you'll still stay around IM while you're on your break
|
Originally Posted by yellowmoomba
Looks like I am going to see some serious Leg Training from you during the next couple weeks
|
.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
I'm done.... for awhile anyway. My wife doesn't believe me either
. I can tell the PT is doing some major good, but trying to bench 275 for reps, and dead over 400 just isn't conducive to a speedy recovery.I regrouped and decided to take full advantage of the PT and ultrasound for the next 4 weeks. I am not planning on any upper body weight training until the first of the year, last week of December the latest. Kinda sucks because I'm probably at my all time strongest, and I know full well I'll lose most of that. But then I'm also a few weeks away from my 49th birthday, and re-evaluating the importance of 'going heavy'. I really was interested in trying some USAPL events in my area in the 50-54 age group. If things go well, then I may still do that. If not... maybe I'll take up needlepoint. |
|
Originally Posted by P-funk
I would just squat three days a week using percentages (day 1 60-70%; day 2 75-80%; day 3 85-90 or 95%). That will keep you in good shape while you recover. Good luck with PT.
|
)
. Yesterday before the feast, it took me 4-1/2 hours to rake the leaves from my backyard to the street curb... that was a pretty decent workout in itself. |
Originally Posted by yellowmoomba
MAYBE you can try some PLYO's too
|
. Yeah, I should give that a go to keep things interesting. Definitely going to pick up the cardio.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
...But then I'm also a few weeks away from my 49th birthday, and re-evaluating the importance of 'going heavy'. I really was interested in trying some USAPL events in my area in the 50-54 age group. If things go well, then I may still do that. If not... maybe I'll take up needlepoint.
|
no reason to stop going heavy. Maybe just not all the time.
|
Originally Posted by gwcaton
You make 49 sound like the end of the world
no reason to stop going heavy. Maybe just not all the time. USAPL sounds cool ! 50-54 gives you 1-5 years to recoop and get stronger ! |
.|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Thanks Gary. I'm proud of us old guys and the weights we are using. It's humerous the looks I get from the young guys, and also people my age, when I start repping with 245 on the incline press. They look at me like 'holy crap!'. I don't think I look that strong, and my hair is almost completely gray (but thick
).What I meant though, was that I've always pushed to up my max. I'm wondering if I've gotten to the point where my connective tissue can't keep up with the strength gains, and problems like my elbow are going to be a regular occurence. I've always wanted to bench 315, squat 350 and deadlift 405. I reached all of those goals and am starting to think, especially with a chronic injury, what do I have to prove? It's hell having a 49 year old body with a 25 year old soul .Trust me though. If I can come back 100%, I'll still be going heavy. |
|
Originally Posted by rock4832
Holy crap JD. Awesome weights there, can you walk
|
|
Originally Posted by gwcaton
So do you think the steroids/prohormones ( i don't remember which it was you used ) are/were part of the "problem" ?
And what the helll are we doing on here this early on a Saturday morning ?! LOL I have to work so thats my excuse. |
. Thanks for the kind words man.
But damn I was happy with that set.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Possibly. But the elbow actually started acting up before I tried anything. Also, it's ONLY my left elbow that's giving me problems. Everything else feels solid, no other nagging injuries at all.
|
|
Originally Posted by PreMier
OOh.. nice PR
|
.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Thanks simbh. As luck would have it, my gym is located at the top of a long flight of stairs. So after a good leg workout, it is difficult to descent those stairs
. |
|
Originally Posted by PreMier
Sup JD. I'll post this here, but me and P-funk were talking about SF the other day. What all did he fabricate, besides his lifts? If you checked out his first journal, then you would see he posted pics of Luke Mueller claiming to be him, and I called him on it.
Did he fabricate the broken leg, because I wouldnt doubt it. |
|
Originally Posted by I'm Trying
Hey Jake...
Look at the shots of his leg. Does it look like a size of a leg of someone claiming the weight they put up?? Did SF ever say where in California he lives? |
|
Originally Posted by I'm Trying
Hey Jake...
Look at the shots of his leg. Does it look like a size of a leg of someone claiming the weight they put up?? Did SF ever say where in California he lives? |
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
I meant entering and competing in the USAPL California Regionals. Look at the link, there was no one named Adam. Only THREE lifters were in the 90 kilo (198 lb) category and they were 37, 42 and 68! None of the lifts in any category corresponded to what he claimed. In my post right before his about the 'accident', I posted a link to a ton of images of the event and asked was he in the photos. I believe EVERY lifter was photographed... not one is of Adam.
I think he knew someone would be on to him and made up that even more pathetic story about being injured. For his sake, I hope so. I wouldn't wish an accident like that on anyone. |
Sad but legit.
Loving that massage eh JD?!? LOL.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Gary and Rock, that's because you guys usually ARE the excitement here at IM.
|
You hear that Rock I mean Mr. Excitement ! |
Originally Posted by PreMier
Yea, he is a total fake. I think EVERYTHING is fabricated.. He is pretty knowlegable in the Westside area though.
|
Do we have a conspiracy therory ???
.|
Originally Posted by P-funk
great squats JD.
you may want to take a cumulative fatigue approach on the squats since they are going 3 times a week and work in percentages. Like try and squat 315/3x5 or somthing like that. Just an idea. save the CNS a bit. |
.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Thanks Patrick, as always, good suggestion. I'm going to mix in box squats and speed box squats also.
|
).
but I'm thinking about myself as always, LOL.
.
|
Originally Posted by gwcaton
I don't know how big your legs are but they are gonna be huge soon at the rate you are going . They will either grow or fall off the way you are beating them up
|
Not sure how much they're growing, but they sure are getting hard .
. I'm planning at least 3 to 4 more weeks. If at the end of that time I still don't think I'm ready... then so be it.|
Originally Posted by rock4832
I like competition and working towards something but I really don't have the build or body structure for bodybuilding I don't think. So that steers me to powerlifting.
|
.|
Originally Posted by rock4832
But everytime I've tried Westside my elbow acts up. I'm buying elbow sleeves this week ($55 each!!) http://www.inzernet.com/detail.asp?P...EEVES_ELBOW_XT What do you think of those? And if I did powerlifting, I want to look good also, LOL. I'm really glad, though dissapointed that SF turned out to be a fake (BTW, has Monstar been on since then?) because of his pics.
|
. I have experienced the same thing a couple of other times. Once when doing heavy leg presses, another time with seated pulley rows. I believe my mistake was two fold. I have a tendency to lean too far forward which puts too much stress on the lower back, and between the 275 and 315 sets I ran into an old friend and talked for a good 15 minutes before resuming. What was I thinking? Was planning on doing leg extensions, but no way after that. Sorry you hurt your back though, I do the same thing with the leaning forward. Next couple of weeks I'm going to work hard and correcting my form as much as possible. Nice squats BTW!
|
Originally Posted by P-funk
Maybe you relaxed to much on the box and didn't stay tight??
|
|
Originally Posted by yellowmoomba
That's scary when your hear your back "POP".....
Hope it's nothing serious.... |
.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Matt, I use a Reebok step with 5 risers. When I come down and sit on it, I'm breaking parallel.
|
|
Originally Posted by I'm Trying
Gotta pic of it?? I think I know what you are talking about. Good weights on the squats too J.D. WHat are you weighing now??
|
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
It was more I felt it, not heard it... thank God. Today it feels slightly tender, but I think its ok. It's hell getting old
. |
I'm sure you can hang with the best of 'em
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Hey IT. I'm weighing 222-224 lbs. Here is a pic of the newer version of a Reebok step. I adjust it so it's 12"-14". After this last episode though, not sure if I'm going to go heavy on these anymore. I might just use it for speed box squats here on out.
|
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Feels fine. I did have some weird shooting pains in the back of my neck today after my wo though. I think it's unrelated...
|
.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Feels fine. I did have some weird shooting pains in the back of my neck today after my wo though. I think it's unrelated...
|
. But that's mainly because I have turned into a big fucking pussy.|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Hey Rock. Sorry to hear about the house falling thru. Next time dawg.
Nope, those weren't box squats. I always will say if they are. I came to the conclusion that box squats are best used for about 60% of a max, and 8-10 sets of 2 which is the way I most normally use them. Those are what I would call speed box squats. Even Westside only seems to mention these, but have references to testing the max box squat to determine the true 60% weight. I doubt if I ever will try a max box squat again . But that's mainly because I have turned into a big fucking pussy.YM: Yeah deads are on the back burner. Elbow rehab was going so well, but then out of the blue, it is aching with no apparent reason. I have been good, no upper body movements at all. It's looking more and more like I'm never to recover, or at least not for a looooong time. I am so fucking depressed over it. But on the other hand, I realize there are SO MANY people with major problems that make my miniscule elbow problem look just like that.... miniscule. I'm tempted just to walk away, but then I know I'll turn into a fat fucking slob. To the guys who say they 'hate' to workout, take note. I LOVE to workout, and to take that away is really going to hurt. |
J/k ! Don't hurt me LOL
|
Originally Posted by gwcaton
suck it up ya big fucking pussy
Heal up bud ! Even at our advanced age we can still heal and make gains |
Yeah I know. I just get the bad feeling its never going away, and surgery isn't recommended since they don't see anything wrong. I did meet up with a guy in PT who messed up his elbow playing golf for the first time at a company outing. Too much beer and was trying to kill the ball. After 18 months of pain, they decided to do surgery. His doc told him a MRI doesn't show anything with this type of injury . But I sure as hell don't want surgery just for them to 'check it out'.
|
Originally Posted by rock4832
Hey buddy, sorry to hear that. But it happens. When I rest my elbow, sometimes just because of the way I move it or even lean it against something it starts to hurt again. But I've found that it doesn't last and doens't turn out to be detrimental to the rehab or it's recovery. I hope that's the case for you!
|
.
|
Originally Posted by Paynne
Reverse grip bench is one I never tried. It just seems like it would be awkward.
|
Not sure. They signed me off in PT, and the ultrasound, massage, and exercises definitely helped. So after 4 weeks of abstinence, yesterday I tried a upperbody wo using very light weight. Felt fine during the workout, but almost immediately afterwards, my left forearm muscles felt weird, and for most of the day they throbbed, not pain, but like a strange 'activity'. Don't have a good feeling about this. I think as soon as I try to increase the weight to any where close of what I was doing, I'll be right back to where I was. Funny how between my PT's and orthopedic doc, no one can tell me how to proceed from here. Should I just give it more rest? Should I stay with light weight and continue? The advise is always the same. If it starts to hurt, then stop. Well it's not that black and white.
. I'm thinking maybe I should lower the reps to the 8-10 range instead. 135 x 15 for example is roughly equivalent to a 195 single... so is 155 x 9. It may actually be better to use slightly more weight and lower the amount of repetitive motions. Who knows, I just need to experiment. |
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Not sure. They signed me off in PT, and the ultrasound, massage, and exercises definitely helped. So after 4 weeks of abstinence, yesterday I tried a upperbody wo using very light weight. Felt fine during the workout, but almost immediately afterwards, my left forearm muscles felt weird, and for most of the day they throbbed, not pain, but like a strange 'activity'. Don't have a good feeling about this. I think as soon as I try to increase the weight to any where close of what I was doing, I'll be right back to where I was. Funny how between my PT's and orthopedic doc, no one can tell me how to proceed from here. Should I just give it more rest? Should I stay with light weight and continue? The advise is always the same. If it starts to hurt, then stop. Well it's not that black and white. |
I'm speaking from recent experience since it took me almost a year to recover from that damn hernia.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Here was that workout btw. Maybe I should have started with lower volume, but I want to get some sort of stimulation
. I'm thinking maybe I should lower the reps to the 8-10 range instead. 135 x 15 for example is roughly equivalent to a 195 single... so is 155 x 9. It may actually be better to use slightly more weight and lower the amount of repetitive motions. Who knows, I just need to experiment. Thursday, December 16th DB Curls 15's x 15 20's x 15 25's x 15 CG Bench Press bar x 10 115 x 15 135 x 15 135 x 15 One Arm Extensions 20 x 15/15 20 x 15/15 20 x 15/15 Reverse Curls 45 x 15 45 x 15 45 x 15 Wrist Curls 10's x 15 front, 15 reverse 10's x 15 front, 15 reverse 10's x 15 front, 15 reverse With every movement, I focused on good form and slow reps. Now that I've typed it out, maybe I did too much but the weight wasn't a challenge at all. Like I said before, arm felt fine during the whole thing. It wasn't until about an hour afterward, then it felt odd and the muscles appear to have bouts of spasms. Feels fine this morning though. |
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
I joked with a friend at the gym who is aware of my problems, and said "well if I bomb this time around, I'll just take up golf". He looked at me with a serious look, and said dude, with your injury, golf would be the worst thing you could do. DOH! He's right! Maybe shuffleboard or canista?
|
. I have a bad habit of editing after I post. As far as I know, you are only one of two people on IM that knows my real first name.
|
Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts
JD, how do you do your reverse wrist curls?
|
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Rock and YM, I truly appreciate your input. Believe it or not my doc advertises himself as a 'sports doc". Not blaming him though. When it comes down to it, it is me that has to decide what is good or bad.
I joked with a friend at the gym who is aware of my problems, and said "well if I bomb this time around, I'll just take up golf". He looked at me with a serious look, and said dude, with your injury, golf would be the worst thing you could do. DOH! He's right! Maybe shuffleboard or canista? |
Maybe you need a second and/or third opinion. It can't hurt to have someone else's opinion
. My fear is it is arthritis, since as I'm sure you know, arthritis will only get progressively worse.
Your weights are still up there!! Hope you are alright today.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Thanks Matt. I have a theory which I'm going to test here in the next week or so. For the last few months I've been working out at 6:00 am. I'm starting to think, even with warmups, this isn't a good idea for my arm. When I did do a light wo in the morning last week, my arm felt odd all day. Over the weekend, I didn't go up until late afternoon and did a heavier wo. It felt fine, could barely tell I did anything. Could be a coincidence, but it kind of makes sense that early morning it's just not limber. It may be back to evening wo's in an overcrowded gym for me.
|
Your theory makes sense to me |
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Thanks Matt. I have a theory which I'm going to test here in the next week or so. For the last few months I've been working out at 6:00 am. I'm starting to think, even with warmups, this isn't a good idea for my arm. When I did do a light wo in the morning last week, my arm felt odd all day. Over the weekend, I didn't go up until late afternoon and did a heavier wo. It felt fine, could barely tell I did anything. Could be a coincidence, but it kind of makes sense that early morning it's just not limber. It may be back to evening wo's in an overcrowded gym for me.
|
.
| So in other words... like I figured out before I even saw a doc... if it hurts, don't do it. |
. I'm hitting it a bit harder then I should be though.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
They released me from PT a week and half ago, and gave me the go ahead to start lifting again
. I'm hitting it a bit harder then I should be though. |
). Testament to how effective squats are for deads, and vice versa.|
Originally Posted by yellowmoomba
Happy Holidays!!!!
|
j/k Happy B-day and Happy Holidays JD.
..|
I feel like a 25 year old trapped in a 49 year old body
|
.|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Thanks GW, CP and YM. I would rather forget my birthdays these days then celebrate them.... but Gary you in particular are an inspiration!
I think this spring, I may finally go on an all out cut. |
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Yo Rock! I wish EVERYONE missed my birthday
.Due to my POS elbow, I really, really, should go with one bodypart a week. But like I said, I have NEVER, EVER had success with that type of program. So..... I'm thinking. Day 1 : Chest (bench press, DB inclines, pec deck flyes) Day 2 : Legs/Back (squats, SLDL's, leg extensions, calf raises, abs) Day 3 : Cardio Day 4 : Triceps/Shoulders/Chest (CG bench press, HS shoulder press/DB press, side laterals/front raises... maybe pushdowns) Day 5 : Back/Legs (deadlifts or a variation, HS row, pulldowns, rear delt raises/reverse pec dec flyes) Day 6 : Cardio, abs, hyperextensions Day 7 : OFF |
I never feel it in my chest when I do CG bench. Actually I don't feel it in my chest when I do reg benching now.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Really? Just shows how everyone is different. When I do CG, I feel it MORE in the pecs then wide grip. With wide grip I feel in more in the front delts, even when I keep elbows in. Go figure.
|
Thats incredible ! I have my first chest wo coming up in a couple of days kind of anxious to see what happens.
.
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Hey Gary... I think maybe it was the cannoli's and pigs in a blanket.
I was serious about the spring cut. I WILL be PM'ing you when I'm ready . |
(I start in feb)|
Originally Posted by PreMier
I'll be cutting for spring. Wanna have a little comp
(I start in feb)It will be my first attempt. |
|
Originally Posted by gwcaton
Cannoli's and pigs in a blanket
|
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
You mean... these are off limits? Maybe I need to re-think this.
|
|
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
You mean... these are off limits? Maybe I need to re-think this.
|
|
Originally Posted by PreMier
I'll be cutting for spring. Wanna have a little comp
(I start in feb)It will be my first attempt. |
.
.|
Originally Posted by rock4832
I was thinking about the elbow situation. I wonder if it is your shoulder that's the problem. Alot of times you can have shoulder problems but not "feel" it in your shoulder. The nerves are affected and they travel down your arm, you end up feeling it in your elbow. I know when I get a certain pain in my elbow (there are so many pains, lol) that it's my shoulder acting up, not really my elbow.
|
.
|
Originally Posted by CowPimp
Very nice pressing JD. How much do you weigh?
|