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Jersey's "Me Too" Journal

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Posted by: Archangel

Nice and Deep!!!
SLD's are killin me Brother, awesome job
16 at 255



Posted by: LW83

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
SLDL's
135 x 5
225 x 10
275 x 8
Concentrated on form and lightly touching the floor.
Holy CRAP!

Quote:
Wanted to do calf raises, but some moron was hogging it so I left .
I HATE that. It looks like a chair to most people, i think



Posted by: gwcaton

Nice wo JD!

I think this Sunday I'll try some VERY light squats to see what the knee says .



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Looking good in here Jersey! Nice leg workout.





Posted by: M.J.H.

Nice leg workout JD. Do your legs respond to lower volume?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Gary: Take it easy bro. Light is the word, until you feel 100%.

YM: Thanks man, but I'm going downhill. Still feel good about my wo's though.

Mike: Good question! Since I started working out, I have always responded well to medium to high volume workouts. Always preached that also. But in the last couple of years I noticed I seem to respond better to high intensity/low volume workouts. High intensity used to mean higher weight, but due to injuries, now moderate weight with short rest intervals. Remember I'm almost 50, and I'm not going to recover as quick as a 20-30 year old.



Posted by: M.J.H.

Quote:
Remember I'm almost 50, and I'm not going to recover as quick as a 20-30 year old.


I had no idea you were almost 50! I have no idea why I just assumed you were around my age. Phenomenal strength, JD. I think that most people will respond better to a high-intensity, lower volume routine.



Posted by: Archangel

Hey Brother, hows it goin?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by MonStar


I had no idea you were almost 50! I have no idea why I just assumed you were around my age. Phenomenal strength, JD. I think that most people will respond better to a high-intensity, lower volume routine.
Thanks for the compliment Mike. I thought maybe you would be irritated at me for my comments in your journal. I think you realize I was just concerned. Who cares about the amount of journals, its the binge stuff I was talking about. Yep, I'm old



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Hey Brother, hows it goin?
Hey Angel! Injury feels good. See my next journal entry. Thanks for asking bro!



Posted by: P-funk

I hope I am as strong as you at 50.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
I hope I am as strong as you at 50.
BUTTWIPE! I'm not 50 ....yet. I am still a young 49 .

If you keep working out like you do, you will absolutely blow me away Patrick! No question about that .



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
BUTTWIPE! I'm not 50 ....yet. I am still a young 49 .

If you keep working out like you do, you will absolutely blow me away Patrick! No question about that .

My dad just turned 50 last year. he started working out at the age of 49 for the first time!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Wednesday, March 9th

CG Bench/Pushdowns Supersets
bar x 8
135 x 8
155 x 8
185 x 8
then
225 x 9/60 x 15
245 x 5/70 x 15
185 x 13/70 x 15
Last bench workout, I had a weird injury. Sort of a 'bump' in pec/delt tie in. I've had pulls before, but this was different... In the last couple of days, I didn't even feel it, but once I started doing warm up sets, I felt it. Little nervous to keep going. Going I did (cuz I'm bull headed) and it actually seemed to loosen up with each set. Was really pumped after these SS.

HS Shoulder Press/Side Lateral Raises
190 x 10/20's x 15
240 x 7/20's x 15
190 x 11/20's x 15
Need to up the weight on the side lateral's next time around.... too easy.

In and out in 32 minutes



Posted by: PreMier

Still watching RI's? Nice workout.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
My dad just turned 50 last year. he started working out at the age of 49 for the first time!!
It's funny, I feel like a veteran, but I didn't start lifting seriously until I was 33 (or was it 34).

Good for your Dad! As I'm sure you told him, never too old to start!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
Still watching RI's? Nice workout.
Thanks Jake. Definitely... with the CG bench/pushdowns, RI was 150 seconds. On HS shoulder press/laterals it was 90 seconds.

I'll post in everyone's (my bro's) journals tomorrow morning. I need to take my Geritol and get ready for bed .



Posted by: M.J.H.

Quote:
Who cares about the amount of journals, its the binge stuff I was talking about.
Agreed.

Keep up the hard work man, any goals for this year?



Posted by: Archangel

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Wednesday, March 9th

CG Bench/Pushdowns Supersets
bar x 8
135 x 8
155 x 8
185 x 8
then
225 x 9/60 x 15
245 x 5/70 x 15
185 x 13/70 x 15
Last bench workout, I had a weird injury. Sort of a 'bump' in pec/delt tie in. I've had pulls before, but this was different... In the last couple of days, I didn't even feel it, but once I started doing warm up sets, I felt it. Little nervous to keep going. Going I did (cuz I'm bull headed) and it actually seemed to loosen up with each set. Was really pumped after these SS.

HS Shoulder Press/Side Lateral Raises
190 x 10/20's x 15
240 x 7/20's x 15
190 x 11/20's x 15
Need to up the weight on the side lateral's next time around.... too easy.

In and out in 32 minutes
Hey Brother, Great lookin W/O!!! I'm sure you where pumped up after that Glad your injury is better. Nothin like the nerves of tryin somethin with an injury in the back of your mind.
Killer SS
Your Shoulder Presses just blow mw away!!!




Posted by: Flex

Nice work, Jerz.

Hey bro, i'm gonna post this in a few other journals, but i see everyone making a big stink about rest in b/w sets.

I've never counted time in b/w, i've always just waited til i caught my breath and felt i was ready.

You can't possibly be near as strong if you take 60sec b/w sets, but it seems you guys really like it, what gives?



Posted by: LW83

Damn you're strong JD.



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Thanks Jake. Definitely... with the CG bench/pushdowns, RI was 150 seconds. On HS shoulder press/laterals it was 90 seconds.

I'll post in everyone's (my bro's) journals tomorrow morning. I need to take my Geritol and get ready for bed .
Nice wo JD!

Now you did it!! You told Jake about the "magic elixir " use old farts use to make us big and strong !!



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwcaton
Nice wo JD!

Now you did it!! You told Jake about the "magic elixir " use old farts use to make us big and strong !!
Jersey is a strong MOFO!!!

Ditto!!! Even though you are injured you are still pressing a bunch of weight. Nice SS!



Posted by: PreMier

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwcaton
Nice wo JD!

Now you did it!! You told Jake about the "magic elixir " use old farts use to make us big and strong !!
LOL I actually had to look up what it was. Then I found this picture, and well.. lets just say I stopped looking..





Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
LOL I actually had to look up what it was. Then I found this picture, and well.. lets just say I stopped looking..



Looks more like a coke bottle to me though



Posted by: yellowmoomba

What are these guys doing posting these nasty pics in your journal



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Where do I begin....

Mike: You know I read your question, and sadly realized I have no real goals. After thinking about it, my main goal right now is to just maintain the strength I have. My elbow problem is chronic, and I have backed off the weights. My fear is I may have to back off the weights to the extend of using 'kiddie ride' machines.

Angel: After seeing those monster squats of your's today.... . You Da Man.

Flex: For years I trained exactly the way you described, and I think it IS a good way to train. I have always liked to change rep ranges, but pretty much stayed in the 3-4 minute rest interval with compound movements. But I believe the best results are obtained if you change both the rep ranges AND the rest intervals for optimal results. I'm not big into programs, but the one that gave me the best 'natural' results was one called "Big Beyond Belief".. I think Mudge and I are the only ones on the internet that tried it . It called for working each bp 3 times a week, and a strategic variation of reps in the 13-15, 8-10, 5-7, and 4-6 range. Rest periods were also varied from 4 minutes to 60 seconds. It kicked ass! This was 10 years ago, and I had incredible results from this program. Problem was I was so severely overtrained after 3-4 months, I felt the need to take off 2 weeks and I NEVER do that.

Bottom line though is that there are 3 ways to up intensity. One, increase the weight, the other is to increase the amount of repetitions with a given weight, and lastly and the most overlooked is to decrease the rest time between sets. If you can do 3 sets of 295 x 3 with 3 minute RI's, but with work can get it down to 3 sets of 295 x 3 with 60 seconds RI's, then you ARE stronger. More work in less time.

LW83: Not nearly as strong as your gonna be Luke! Your workouts and diet are rockin'

YM: It IS a small world brotha!

Gary: Any talk about strong 50 year olds should definitely include you, my Geritol brother . Good to see you back in the gym. I know how hard it is to stay away.

Jake: That's just sick.



Posted by: Yanick

you're one strong freak JD. didn't realize you were an old fart, yet you lift like one of us youngins.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanick
you're one strong freak JD. didn't realize you were an old fart, yet you lift like one of us youngins.
Thanks Yanick. I think...



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Saturday, March 12th

First day at a push/pull program, or should I say pull/push

Deadlifts
135 x 8
185 x 5
225 x 5
275 x 12 PR
315 x 6

Patrick and Yanick would be proud (I think). After my earlier rant about cheating on higher rep deads, I've really concentrated on letting the weight stop completely before attempting another rep. I think of it like a series of singles. Only bummer was on the 315 set I felt a very slight ding in my lower back on the 5th rep. I lowered the weight, and focused like hell on tight form, and did the 6th and that was fine. I feel only a very slight tightness in my lower back, but it still concerns me. Damn, I have a PR and then that.

Bench Press
135 x 8
185 x 8
225 x 9
225 x 8

Amazing how much energy the deadlifts zapped out of me. I really didn't think doing a predominately lower body movement would effect my bench. But I definitely felt weaker even on the warm up sets. And that freaking problem around my pec/delt tie-in came back. Pat, if your reading this.... wtf? It's not like a pull, and with a day or two of rest I don't even feel it. But once I bench, that area tightens up and feels sore afterwards??? Yeah I know guys. I'm fucking falling apart. Chronic elbow, back popping, weird connective tissue problem in the upper chest. I told my wife today, I'm starting to think the heavy weight (for me), has finally started to take it's toll and I am just tearing myself up. It's really depressing.... Somehow I just can't see relegating myself to using the fucking chest press machine with the 'pretenders' and resolutionists. As a side note, most of these strange problems seemed to start happening after some prohormone, and then two steroid cycles. I will also say my blood pressure has been normal/high (meaning 133/77) for quite awhile. I monitored it religiously throughout. It usually went up during a cycle, but always returned to normal once I came off. Well guess what? During my last cycle it went up, and almost 4 months afterwards... it still hasn't come down. Now it averages 144/80. Is all of this coincidence? Maybe. Especially because I'm at an age that is higher risk, but it does seem odd.

Pulldowns
90 x 15
120 x 10
150 x 10

HS Incline Press
100 x 8
190 x 8
240 x 8
280 x 9

Face Pulls
60 x 12
90 x 12
110 x 12

Did these with a rope and pulley just below eye level. These felt awkward at first, but I really like them. Especially because I sit at a computer all day, I feel hunched over even when I concentrate on posture. Face pulls help offset this in-balance. I should probably do them every other day.

Incline Flyes
25's x 12
35's x 10
45's x 10
60's x 10

Overall a good workout. However, I'm left thinking maybe this is just the beginning of the end, so to speak.



Posted by: P-funk

I am proud!

good deadlifts.

Here is my only comment about the program. I know you are thinking push/pull and your deadlift you train with back (like bb'ers do while powerlifters place it with legs). I would really consider throwing the deadlift with legs since it places so much emphasis on your hips. Just my opinion.


like the addition of the face pull. that will really help your deadlifts.

any guess on your rest intervals?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Thanks Pat. Today I didn't watch my RI's close, but the deads and bench were around 2-3 minutes. Every thing else 90 seconds or less.

Yeah I know about the deads. I always do SLDL's on leg day, but for some reason I like doing conventional deads on back day. If I stick to a push/pull, I agree though. Deads on leg day .

No guesses as to what I did to my pec? I say pec but it feels more like the arm pit .



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Thanks Pat. Today I didn't watch my RI's close, but the deads and bench were around 2-3 minutes. Every thing else 90 seconds or less.

Yeah I know about the deads. I always do SLDL's on leg day, but for some reason I like doing conventional deads on back day. If I stick to a push/pull, I agree though. Deads on leg day .

No guesses as to what I did to my pec? I say pec but it feels more like the arm pit .

what is you split?

d1- upper
d2- lower
d3- upper
d4- lower

???


If you are hitting legs twice a week you could DL on one day and SLDL and squat on the other.



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Saturday, March 12th

First day at a push/pull program, or should I say pull/push

Deadlifts
135 x 8
185 x 5
225 x 5
275 x 12 PR
315 x 6

Patrick and Yanick would be proud (I think). After my earlier rant about cheating on higher rep deads, I've really concentrated on letting the weight stop completely before attempting another rep. I think of it like a series of singles. Only bummer was on the 315 set I felt a very slight ding in my lower back on the 5th rep. I lowered the weight, and focused like hell on tight form, and did the 6th and that was fine. I feel only a very slight tightness in my lower back, but it still concerns me. Damn, I have a PR and then that.

Bench Press
135 x 8
185 x 8
225 x 9
225 x 8

Amazing how much energy the deadlifts zapped out of me. I really didn't think doing a predominately lower body movement would effect my bench. But I definitely felt weaker even on the warm up sets. And that freaking problem around my pec/delt tie-in came back. Pat, if your reading this.... wtf? It's not like a pull, and with a day or two of rest I don't even feel it. But once I bench, that area tightens up and feels sore afterwards??? Yeah I know guys. I'm fucking falling apart. Chronic elbow, back popping, weird connective tissue problem in the upper chest. I told my wife today, I'm starting to think the heavy weight (for me), has finally started to take it's toll and I am just tearing myself up. It's really depressing.... Somehow I just can't see relegating myself to using the fucking chest press machine with the 'pretenders' and resolutionists. As a side note, most of these strange problems seemed to start happening after some prohormone, and then two steroid cycles. I will also say my blood pressure has been normal/high (meaning 133/77) for quite awhile. I monitored it religiously throughout. It usually went up during a cycle, but always returned to normal once I came off. Well guess what? During my last cycle it went up, and almost 4 months afterwards... it still hasn't come down. Now it averages 144/80. Is all of this coincidence? Maybe. Especially because I'm at an age that is higher risk, but it does seem odd.

Pulldowns
90 x 15
120 x 10
150 x 10

HS Incline Press
100 x 8
190 x 8
240 x 8
280 x 9

Face Pulls
60 x 12
90 x 12
110 x 12

Did these with a rope and pulley just below eye level. These felt awkward at first, but I really like them. Especially because I sit at a computer all day, I feel hunched over even when I concentrate on posture. Face pulls help offset this in-balance. I should probably do them every other day.

Incline Flyes
25's x 12
35's x 10
45's x 10
60's x 10

Overall a good workout. However, I'm left thinking maybe this is just the beginning of the end, so to speak.
Nice wo JD !

Congrats on PR I like the exercise by exercise feedback HMMMM BP not to be fooled with Mr. ! Check it out .



Posted by: JerseyDevil

I just started, so I'm winging it but.... the original thought was:

Day 1
Chest/Back (lower back/hips)

Day 2
Legs/Abs

Day 3 OFF

Day 4
Triceps/Biceps

Day 5 OFF

Day 6
Back (lats/upper back)
Shoulders

Day 7 OFF



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwcaton
HMMMM BP not to be fooled with Mr. ! Check it out .
Thanks for the concern Gary. I have a Dr appt this Monday to discuss . 144 is high, but still considered 'mild hypertension'. I bought a BP cuff and measure it myself. Sometimes it hits 155, so that definitely concerns me.. The lower number is always in the normal range, so that is good at least.



Posted by: Archangel

Hey JD, awesome lookin W/O!!! 60 pound flyes? HOLY COW Brother, you must be a friggen MONSTER
So its in the armpit area huh? Any discoloration?



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
I just started, so I'm winging it but.... the original thought was:

Day 1
Chest/Back (lower back/hips)

Day 2
Legs/Abs

Day 3 OFF

Day 4
Triceps/Biceps

Day 5 OFF

Day 6
Back (lats/upper back)
Shoulders

Day 7 OFF
I think you are going to like the new routine. Doing opposing muscles feels great !! Good luck with the program When are you doing Deadlifts ?? Back or Leg day?? I'm assuming leg day since you don't have a break b/w Back day and Leg day. I don't think I could do Squats the day after I do Deads.



Posted by: LW83

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
I just started, so I'm winging it but.... the original thought was:

Day 1
Chest/Back (lower back/hips)

Day 2
Legs/Abs

Day 3 OFF

Day 4
Triceps/Biceps

Day 5 OFF

Day 6
Back (lats/upper back)
Shoulders

Day 7 OFF

Are ya gonna superset chest/back



Posted by: JerseyDevil

AA: Thanks man. No discoloration at all. It's weird. Today I barely feel it, but yesterday while benching it was very uncomfortable and got very tight afterwards.

YM: I originally planned to do deads on chest/back day, but as Patrick pointed out, that isn't wise. Not sure if I can do deads and squats on the same day and do them both justice either . Sunday is leg day for me, but took today off.

Luke: Occasionally I will. An old timer will tell you the 'real' definition of a superset is to do two opposing muscle groups back to back. My fav used to be BB curls and skullcrushers.



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
ot sure if I can do deads and squats on the same day and do them both justice.
one augments the other. squat first and deadlift second for 2-4 weeks. then switch. they will make eachother grow.



Posted by: Archangel

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
AA: Thanks man. No discoloration at all. It's weird. Today I barely feel it, but yesterday while benching it was very uncomfortable and got very tight afterwards.
No problem, just keep an eye on it. Good luck and Happy Liftin!!!



Posted by: LW83

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Luke: Occasionally I will. An old timer will tell you the 'real' definition of a superset is to do two opposing muscle groups back to back. My fav used to be BB curls and skullcrushers.

That sounds like fun! I"ll have to try that sometime. Have a good one JD.



Posted by: yellowmoomba

where's the leg workout ???



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowmoomba
where's the leg workout ???
I'm skipping legs for this week. My lower back has been stiff, since Saturday's workout, so I decided to give it a rest.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Tuesday, March 15th

CG Bench
135 x 8
155 x 8
185 x 6
225 x 9
225 x 8

Damn, that area I've been talking about tightened up again tonight. I'm thinking I need to take a week or so off to rest it. Here two hours later I barely feel it, but I'm worried I'm going to tear something. Working out is getting very frustrating for me right now. I know you guys don't really want to hear my bitching and moaning, so if things don't improve soon, I going to stop posting my workouts.

One Arm Extensions
20 x 12/12
25 x 12/12
30 x 12/12

Rope Pushdowns
40 x 15
50 x 12
50 x 12

DB Flex Curls
20's x 12
25's x 12
30's x 12
35's x 12

Reverse BB Curls
50 x 12
60 x 12
60 x 12

Didn't time RI's, but CG bench was in the 120 second range, everything else was more like 60-90 seconds. All in all, a decent workout despite the feelings of frustration.



Posted by: M.J.H.

I am curious to see how you feel about training chest and back together JD, I remember getting great pumps doing that back in the day.



Posted by: PreMier

Bitch and moan all you want bro, its your journal. And some of us have been there before



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
Bitch and moan all you want bro, its your journal. And some of us have been there before
Jersey -

Overcoming injuries are a part of sports....Sometime you need to rest. From the sounds of the last two workouts (Legs and Chest) - now's probably the best time to take a break.....and start fresh on Monday. Nobody wants to stop lifting but usually it's the right thing to do! 5 days won't kill ya (or make you weak) You'll probably be stronger when you come back.





Posted by: Archangel

Hey JD, good lookin w/o!!! That sucks You better take it easy though Brother. Your body might be sayin to take a week off. YM's right, you'll prolly come back even stronger I agree with PreMier also, say what you want, it's yours and we are all familiar with what your going through with an injurie



Posted by: gwcaton

JD,

It has been awhile since you took a break. Do you schedule breaks or (and I'm not trying to be a smartass) have all your breks been becuase of injuries ?



Posted by: LW83

Quote:
Originally Posted by JD
Damn, that area I've been talking about tightened up again tonight. I'm thinking I need to take a week or so off to rest it. Here two hours later I barely feel it, but I'm worried I'm going to tear something. Working out is getting very frustrating for me right now. I know you guys don't really want to hear my bitching and moaning, so if things don't improve soon, I going to stop posting my workouts

Woudl you ever consider yoga?



Posted by: Yanick

nice workouts JD, definitely great numbers on the DL. injuries are horrible, i'm dreading getting old (haha, no offense bro) just for that fact. it seems like a nightmare to me, that one day i will have to start taking it easy and stop lifting heavy because of injuries. i agree with luke, you should try yoga or maybe just stretching daily or something.

don't stop posting your workouts on here, its very therapeutic to vent your feelings in any way possible. just keep on keepin on man.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Where do I begin? I came back to see my journal and have all of these supportive responses. I guess that's what IM is all about. Trust me, I have ventured into several other boards, but IM has the best mix of people, and advice, I have found.

Mike: I used to do push/pull all the time. Bench/BB rows and skullcrushers/BB curls were my favorites.

Pre: Yeah, but my whining is pissing me off too.....

YM, Archangel, and Yanick: That's the thing. I have been training for 15 years, and during most of that time have had some sort of nagging injury. This is different, or should I say 'these'. Some people, meaning family and friends, say to me what are you trying to prove? I blew them off like you just don't understand weight training. But now, I'm starting to think, "Yeah, what exactly AM I trying to prove"? I benched 320, squatted 365, and deadlifted 405 at 49 years old. Nothing to write home about, but considering I was one of those kids who no one picked to be on their team in grade school, not bad. Maybe I should just say that's good enuf, and focus more on ultra strict form and short RI's. I will NEVER walk away from weight training. I'll figure it out. Maybe a combination of machines and free weights.

I'll also add... if you're still with me , my inspiration is a guy named Charlie. When I first met Charlie, he was 68 years old. Bow legged as a duck, about 5' 8" and 200 lbs. That guy could easily do 8-9 reps with 225 in bench. Maintained that, but suffered a stroke at 70. He dropped 30 lbs. Upon coming back he did light weights using machines and did plenty of cardio. At 72 he has worked his way back to doing 3 sets of 175 x 8 on incline bench, which just impresses the living hell out of me .

Luke: Nope. Have been looking real hard at bridge and shuffleboard though.

Seriously, I DO need to stretch more. When I used to run a lot (20 years ago), I practiced stretching religiously. Could easily touch my forehead to my shin and hold it.



Posted by: Archangel

Hey Brother, ever think about entering a contest? My Dad is about to enter his 3rd one this year ( I can't do it this year, because my middle child is graduating High School on the day of the contest) and he is 56 years old. Maybe you should try it!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwcaton
It has been awhile since you took a break. Do you schedule breaks or (and I'm not trying to be a smartass) have all your breks been becuase of injuries ?
Oops! Missed your post g-dub. I usually only take time off due to injuries or going on vacation. Yeah I should take some time off.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Hey Brother, ever think about entering a contest? My Dad is about to enter his 3rd one this year ( I can't do it this year, because my middle child is graduating High School on the day of the contest) and he is 56 years old. Maybe you should try it!!!
How old are you Angel? I knew about your daughter, but I didn't realize you had teenage children.

Never had an interest in BB comps. I was interested in trying some masters PL events, but with my recent injuries, that would be a very bad idea .



Posted by: yellowmoomba

I think you'd do great in a PL contest Jersey!! You need to heal up those nagging injuries first



Posted by: LW83

Quote:
I practiced stretching religiously. Could easily touch my forehead to my shin and hold it.



I'd save so much money not needing a girlfreind



Posted by: Archangel

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
How old are you Angel? I knew about your daughter, but I didn't realize you had teenage children.

Never had an interest in BB comps. I was interested in trying some masters PL events, but with my recent injuries, that would be a very bad idea .
I am 35, the 2 oldest are my wifes from her first marriage. My daughter is ours. But I have been in their lifes since they where 6 and 4, so I basically consider them mine, ya know? They are now 20 and 18. Oh man now I feel old

Maybe heal up and go for it!!! I know youd do good and have a blast doin it!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83


I'd save so much money not needing a girlfreind
That was just wrong



Posted by: LW83





Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
I am 35, the 2 oldest are my wifes from her first marriage. My daughter is ours. But I have been in their lifes since they where 6 and 4, so I basically consider them mine, ya know? They are now 20 and 18. Oh man now I feel old

Maybe heal up and go for it!!! I know youd do good and have a blast doin it!!!
Yeah, my kids are from my wife's first marriage. They are twins, boy and a girl, and I have been in their lives since they were 5. They are 12 now, and the hormones are starting to kick in . So I'm with ya bro .



Posted by: Archangel

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Yeah, my kids are from my wife's first marriage. They are twins, boy and a girl, and I have been in their lives since they were 5. They are 12 now, and the hormones are starting to kick in . So I with ya bro .




Posted by: LW83

Mornin' JD.



Posted by: Archangel

Morning JD, are ya healin up and goin for the Power-Liftin ?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Morning guys. I'm taking a few days off, hoping that the pec injury heals. I seriously doubt I'll be doing any PL. My left elbow has bone spurs, and has become arthritic. My doc said its a good thing to keep lifting, but going too heavy will just cause more damage.

He didn't think surgery was called for at this time, and may only provide temporary relief. That was a couple of months ago. If it keeps bothering me, I may go back and revisit the surgery option.



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Morning guys. I'm taking a few days off, hoping that the pec injury heals. I seriously doubt I'll be doing any PL. My left elbow has bone spurs, and has become arthritic. My doc said its a good thing to keep lifting, but going too heavy will just cause more damage.

He didn't think surgery was called for at this time, and may only provide temporary relief. That was a couple of months ago. If it keeps bothering me, I may go back and revisit the surgery option.
It's good to hear you are taking a little time off



Posted by: LW83

well that's not the best news I hope you heal fast!



Posted by: Rocco32

Hey there buddy! Crappy news Seriously though I really think you can get past it if you change your training. Try HST, or another program that builds to a heavy point and then starts over again. Make sense? Your always going pretty heavy when you w/o, you need to break it up a bit. Or I could be completely wrong But it did work for me so far and I really want you to be able to continue to w/o.



Posted by: Archangel

Oh man Brother JD, sorry to hear that Heal up and at least get back to W/O. We are here for ya. Keep your head up, your a warrior, you'll get past this. Maybe what Rock said might help.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by rock4832
Hey there buddy! Crappy news Seriously though I really think you can get past it if you change your training. Try HST, or another program that builds to a heavy point and then starts over again. Make sense? Your always going pretty heavy when you w/o, you need to break it up a bit. Or I could be completely wrong But it did work for me so far and I really want you to be able to continue to w/o.
ROCK!!!!!!!!!! Welcome back man. That does make sense bro. I had dropped back to just doing one hard work set. But I agree doing a progressive resistance program is awesome. I used to do just that. Start 10 weeks out with light weight and 12 reps, and each week increase the weight and lower the reps. I sort of dropped that style of training, but your are right man.... that might be perfect for me now .



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Oh man Brother JD, sorry to hear that Heal up and at least get back to W/O. We are here for ya. Keep your head up, your a warrior, you'll get past this. Maybe what Rock said might help.
Thanks Angel, I appreciate that man.



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
ROCK!!!!!!!!!! Welcome back man. That does make sense bro. I had dropped back to just doing one hard work set. But I agree doing a progressive resistance program is awesome. I used to do just that. Start 10 weeks out with light weight and 12 reps, and each week increase the weight and lower the reps. I sort of dropped that style of training, but your are right man.... that might be perfect for me now .
No No No JD !!! Don't listen to Rock!!! Sounds like a cool plan



Posted by: Archangel

Brother JD, hows it goin this weekend? Hope all is well in your neck of the woods



Posted by: Rocco32

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwcaton
No No No JD !!! Don't listen to Rock!!! Sounds like a cool plan
Hardy har har!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Decided to ditch the push/pull workouts.... before anyone gives me shit, I think my history speaks for itself. I stick to my workout schemes and thought this wasn't the best for me right now.

Premier posted a wo supposedly done by the strength length Bill Kazmeier. What attracted me to his 'pre-PL contest' routine was it is very similar to what I'm already doing. Two days on, off, one day on, off, one day on, off. His program is a textbook chest/shoulders/tri's and then back/legs/bi's routine, with all BP's worked in a heavy/light twice a week scenerio. Right up my alley. That said I started with 12-15 rep sets, and want to increase the weight, and decrease the reps each week until I hit at least a 3 rep max.

Saturday, March 19th

Bench
135 x 12
185 x 12
185 x 12
185 x 12
120 sec RI's

Shot down in flames. How fucking disappointing. First two sets were ok, but the nagging injury in my pec tie-in, just got worse and worse. It gets tight, and swells up. For the last 4 days, I rested and didn't feel it at all. Before doing bench I even did some pushups, and DB bench with 30's to warm up. No problem. As soon as I went to 185, it stiffened up, and felt weird. My wife felt both sides of my chest, and she confirmed it feels hard and stiff compared to the other side.

HS Incline
200 x 12
200 x 12
200 x 9
90 sec RI's

Seated Military Press
95 x 10
115 x 10
135 x 10
90 sec RI's

Been a LONG time since I've tried seated mil press. Felt good, and in this position, my chest felt fine.

Side Lateral Raises
20's x 12
25's x 12
30's x 15
60 second RI's

Pushdowns
50 x 15
60 x 15
70 x 12
60 second RI's

Oddly HS incline press, militaries, laterals, pushdowns didn't seem to bother it. I have a dr appt set up in a couple of weeks for another matter, and I will ask about it. But for now I will stop benching movements, and then test it after a couple of weeks. If I tore something, I think I would know it, but it doesn't feel good at all.



Posted by: P-funk

HS is awesome!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

So what you're saying is.... use the HS until I heal up ?



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
So what you're saying is.... use the HS until I heal up ?

yeah, they are great for rehab. For a few reasons (this is just my opinion):

1) they allow you to work unilaterally.
2) even though they take out the stability you get with a free weight, they move in that natural arc when other machines (or smith machine) move in a straight line. the human body moves in a series of arcs, not a direct line.



Posted by: yellowmoomba

That #$%^& sucks that you are still injured......Just work around it for now





Posted by: Archangel

Hey JD, don't be so hard on yourself. At least you did it and threw up some decent numbers. Very few people in this world have the willingness to work through pain, much less do it the way you are. A true mark of a WARRIOR in my book!!!



Posted by: LW83

Quote:
Originally Posted by rock4832
Hardy har har!!!

you guys are funny



Posted by: I'm Trying

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Morning guys. I'm taking a few days off, hoping that the pec injury heals. I seriously doubt I'll be doing any PL. My left elbow has bone spurs, and has become arthritic. My doc said its a good thing to keep lifting, but going too heavy will just cause more damage.

He didn't think surgery was called for at this time, and may only provide temporary relief. That was a couple of months ago. If it keeps bothering me, I may go back and revisit the surgery option.
Bummer man. Get better. I'll try to get in and read your journal more.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Thank you for the encouragement guys. It's nice to have a 'support group' .



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm Trying
Bummer man. Get better. I'll try to get in and read your journal more.
Hey Matt! Nice to see you man . I just saw in your journal the job still hasn't come thru yet. Sorry to hear that. Sounds like a bunch of bureaucratic BS if you ask me... Hang in there, it will happen soon.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Sunday, March 20th

Squat
135 x 10
225 x 6
245 x 12

Nice and deep. Lowered the weight slow, paused slightly and focused on exploding up. Lightly hitting the stops on most reps .

Deadlifts
135 x 10
205 x 6
255 x 10

Considering this a 'light' deadlift day. After 'tweaking' my back last week, proceeded with caution, especially since I usually do these first. Completely stopped the bar on all reps, in each set.

Leg Extensions
150 x 10
210 x 6
255 x 16

Pulldowns
90 x 10
105 x 10
105 x 10
105 x 10

Light day. Focused on form and paused the bar slightly on my upper chest. Funny, a guy next to me was doing the same exercise with 150, and it was interesting watching how much he leaned back and rocked with each rep.

Hammer Curls
25's x 10
35's x 10
40's x 13

Reverse BB Curls
45 x 10
55 x 10
65 x 12

Going lighter for awhile, and on compound movements will progressively build each week until I hit a plateau and then drop back again. Also will go back to my earlier philosophy of doing warm ups and just one work set. Read an interesting article by a powerlifter named Marty Gallagher, who at 14 won the AAU powerlifting title in his age group, and now at age 54 is the AAU national record holder in his age group. It discussed lifting longevity, while still gaining strength. He had several tips, most of which are pretty common, but the one that stood out to me was doing warm ups and then do just ONE hard work set. I realized that I may have been onto something when I tried this earlier. I really made great gains on my CG bench for example using this method.



Posted by: Archangel

Hey Brother JD........ Looks Good. Not exactly a light day in my book
Glad you may be on to something. Will be keeping up with ya Bro!!!



Posted by: gwcaton

Nice wo JD

really like your comments about each exercise !



Posted by: Archangel

Hey JD, thanks so much for that compliment in my journal. You need to post some pics my Brother!!!



Posted by: PreMier

That looks like a fun workout. Im going to miss training light/high reps.



Posted by: I'm Trying

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Hey Matt! Nice to see you man . I just saw in your journal the job still hasn't come thru yet. Sorry to hear that. Sounds like a bunch of bureaucratic BS if you ask me... Hang in there, it will happen soon.
Yeah it is a bunch of BS. I feel like I'm in a rut now and feeling alittle negative. I need to pick my head up and plug along.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm Trying
Yeah it is a bunch of BS. I feel like I'm in a rut now and feeling alittle negative. I need to pick my head up and plug along.
That's all you can do. Stay positive, it'll happen .



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Injury update. I've had this annoying injury around the pec/delt tie-in as most of you are aware. The actual injury occured two weeks ago when I felt something 'give' while doing a heavy set of bench. Since then it tightens up, swells a bit, and I feel discomfort for about 8-12 hours after doing bench. Only feels this way when I bench. This Saturday I did a warm up by doing pushups, and a set with 30 lb DBs, then 135 x 12. Felt fine. Then did any easy set of 185 x 12. Could feel it tighten up, then did two more sets. By the end, while never feeling any pop or twinge, it got extremely tight and hurt. My wife felt it, and confirmed it was swollen and very tight.

Last night, I had her feel it again, and without a doubt it still feels tight and raised up. She asked me if it was discolored, and knowing I had checked this before I said no. Well guess what, just to be sure something hadn't changed I looked in the mirror and about 3" BELOW where I feel the injury, there is a black and purple area about 2"-3" in diameter. It looks like a bad bruise, but it is not sore to the touch. I assume this is blood that has collected from the injury? Funny thing is, neither the discoloration or the 'tight' area hurt. I can move my arm in all directions, and not feel a thing.

Looks like I tore or ruptured something. Damn, I hope this can heal on its own. Going to try to see my family doc today to check it out, but it will probably be tomorrow. Worst part is, today is chest day, and I was planning on doing HS incline . No way now. This is freaking me out a bit.



Posted by: gwcaton

Glad to hear you say you're not doing chest today ! I almost expected you to say you would go light !!! You hard headed old fart !!! LOL I'm with you , I hope it heals on its own and good luck JD !



Posted by: Rocco32

Wow JD. That really sucks. I'm glad your going to the Doc to get it checked Let us know what's up as soon as you know!



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Bummer.......

I'd go see a sports doctor rather than a "family" doctor. Good luck. Keep us posted on what the doc says!!

LEGS ....... LEGS ...... and more LEGS



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
Im going to miss training light/high reps.


Why, you just goin' heavy?

Don't forget that M2M



Posted by: M.J.H.

Damn JD, I really hope everything is okay. Like you said hopefully everything heals on its own. Are you noticing pain training back or shoulders?



Posted by: PreMier

Thats like when I tore my rhomboid. My whole lower back eventually turned black and blue, due to the blood flowing with gravity. The lower back area was never sore. I would guess you have a tear, and I would be VERY careful.

Flex, new protocal. I actually like how training was today, but I know its going to wear me down pretty fast.



Posted by: Archangel

JD, Glad to hear your going to see the Dr., Now you can get it all healed up!!! Injuries suck Hope you heal up fast and back at 'em setting new records for yourself!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Went to the doc today. Diagnosis: Pec tear, and I have a hematoma which is the fullness I feel in the chest, and also why I have the blood collecting in the area right next to my nipple. Advice is to take at least two weeks off from all upper body movements, and apply moist heat as much as I can, then come back in 2 weeks to evaluate. I'm going to heed that advice. I can deal with this. Gives me a chance to rest.

But then... talk about timing, I have a message on my answering machine from my urologist telling me I must cease Androgel due to high hemoglobin. Most of you do not know, I have been on Androgel for 3 years. Not steroids mind you, but supplemental test to bring my testosterone levels to normal. At the original testing my natural test was a low 280 ng/dl, and the daily Androgel brings it up to 440 ng/dl, firmly in the mid-range. For those who know about HPTA, you will also know if I cease Androgel now, my natural test levels will be in the dirt for several weeks, and the BEST I can expect is getting back to the original 280... Hmmmm, quit working out and letting your test hit the levels of a teenage girl... great combination. Oh well, I guessed I asked for it.



Posted by: LW83

O NO!...... I have a feeling you'll heal much faster than expect



Posted by: gwcaton

JD,
Will you be able to go back on the Androgel ? Or is it out for good ? Never heard of such stuff. LOL I live under a rock in the back yard . I know nothing about steroids/prohormones or any of those things . I just eat and lift

Good luck on a speedy recovery

PS
Quote:
Hmmmm, quit working out and letting your test hit the levels of a teenage girl... great combination.
Should we start calling you Nancy ? J/K



Posted by: PreMier

Why did you ask for it? Man, that sucks.. I guess squat till you drop?



Posted by: Yanick

JD, thats horrible news and here i am feeling sorry for myself for no goddamn reason, while you are facing so much adversity and keeping your head well up there (or so it seems from you posts, no profanity or mad smileys or anything). Good luck with everything bro, maybe its time to start slowing down like you said and even doing something fitness other than lifting? maybe you can take up swimming or something to supplement lifting? i gotta agree with P though, for now squat till you drop!



Posted by: Rocco32

Damn JD. Your a tough bastard! Working out with a pec tear LOL! Sorry about the news, would taking like Rob's Anabolic Matrix help up your test levels?



Posted by: P-funk

damn man, that really sucks. Hope everything works for the best.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Luke: I hope so...

Gary: I'm assuming it's out for good. If I cease it, and the hemoglobin drops down to normal, then the doc will say see it was the Androgel. Androdel, although it is testosterone, is not a prohormone or steroid. Testosterone is only considered an anabolic steroid when used in supraphysiological amounts... like taking your test levels well above 1,000 ng/dl. The main reason I started taking it had nothing to do with working out. It was because I felt like a whiny bitch and my sex drive was low. My doctor was the one who suggested having my test levels checked, and then prescribed Androgel when he saw the results. Normal btw, is 300-880 ng/dl.

Premier: I asked for it because I strongly suspect it was the gear cycles that created this. All course I'll never know for sure. Too high of hemoglobin is the opposite of anemia. The blood can clot and possibly cause a stroke or heart attack. I know steroids increase your red blood cell count, which is good, up to a point. High hemoglobin is one possible side effect of steroid use. Good thing I have blood work done twice a year. Most people preach having it done after a cycle, but few actually do.

Yanick: Trust me, I'm plenty depressed about it

Rock: I'm sure Rob will say it does

P-Funk: Thanks for the support. At the moment, I don't even feel like going to the gym... and that's not like me.



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Try to make the best of two weeks off. Hopefully you can fill the time with something that you've been putting off.

Keep your head up!!




Posted by: tucker01

Shitty news JD! Keep your head up.



Posted by: PreMier

Why dont they leave you on androgel and just give you cumadin? Are you taking fish oil? It hsa slight blood thinning effects.



Posted by: Archangel

Hey JD, was just thinkin bout ya, hows your day? Keep that chin up and you'll be back at it in no time at all!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Thanks for the support guys. Will hang in there and take one day at a time.



Posted by: LW83

You'd BETTER hang in there buddy I'd miss ya.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Friday, March 25th

Warm up on bike, 5 minutes.

Squats
135 x 10
185 x 8
225 x 3
255 x 10

Hyperextensions
15
15
15
15

Seated Calf Raises
150 x 20
150 x 20
150 x 20

Leg Extensions
150 x 10
210 x 8
255 x 18

Elliptical Machine
25 minutes, aerobic program, level 6

Since I'll be doing a lot of legs I kept the volume down. Last time I did only lower body for 4 weeks, looking back I realized I overtrained doing legs 3 times a week and maxing every wo. This time I'll mix heavy and light days and rotate between squats and leg press.

I observed some HS football players working out yesterday. They were doing bench while I squatted. One guy got up to 205 for 7 reps, another 235 x 7. I thought to myself at my best, I could surpass that easy. When I finished, they asked if I was done on the squat rack. I didn't see the warm ups, but I saw at one point they had 315 loaded on the bar. I thought, yeah right, let the 1/4 squat party begin .

Boy was I wrong. The one kid was around 160, soaking wet, the other probably 215 or so. The smaller guy walked up the bar, ripped it off the rack and proceeded to do 7 EASY reps breaking parallel each rep. The bigger guy did the same. Then they loaded up 365, took a breather then both did 7 reps fairly easy, again with perfect form. THEN 405 for 7 reps, no problem!!! Holy crappola. No wonder our local HS team is 24-0 over the last two years. Those boys can squat!



Posted by: gwcaton

Nice wo JD! And good strategy

Cool story about the HS guys.



Posted by: Archangel

Hey JD, Good lookin w/o there. Hows the injury, doin any kind of therapy for it? I hear ya about the kids, sometimes it's like Holy Cow, did they just do that!!! Makes you feel like your not doin anything sometimes.

But WE know better huh, it's not always about the weight!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
You'd BETTER hang in there buddy I'd miss ya.
Don't worry. Even if I stop my journal, I'll still be around to harass everyone else .



Posted by: LW83

WOOOHOOO!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Gary and Arch: Yeah I think things will work out. Probably will never be quite as strong as I once was, but the most important thing is to keep on keeping on, my health, and my family. Lately, I've been hearing so many stories of acquaintances my age diagnosed with cancer, having heart attacks, and other ailments, not to mention a few who died unexpectedly... and I'm worried about not being able to push a given about of weight? I have since realized that is totally selfish of me, and I need to grasp what is really important in life.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Speaking of what is important, last night my wife, kids and I went to an NBA game. My wife and I have been to a couple of Sixers game, but this was the first time with the kids. It was Sixers vs the Raptors, and it was an awesome game.

For those that follow the NBA, you would know Chris Webber became a Sixer on Feb 23rd. Since that time he just hasn't gelled with Alan Iverson. Well last night, we got to see an awesome performance by both players. Iverson scored 36, Webber 32, first time in 7 years two Sixers were over 30 points in one game.

Even with that, the game was tied at 101 with 28 seconds to go. Everyone was on their feet. Iverson took the ball and just stood at the 3 pt line dribbling the ball back and forth. No fancy set up. He just stood there, eyeing the defender and letting the time run off the clock. Then with 3 seconds left on the shot clock, he started to surge to the left causing the defender to move back. He then he pulled up and nailed a jumper with 2.4 seconds left on the clock. The house was rockin'. The Raptors couldn't convert and everyone WENT NUTS!

My kids are 12, and haven't really demonstrated interest in sports. They like it when a local team wins, but the attention span isn't there. Last night, they were in the game from tip off to the end. It was an awesome experience...



Posted by: LW83

You sound like a GREAT dad



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Sounds like a great game. I'm a big C-Web fan ever since I watched him and the fab-5 play for U/M.



Posted by: Archangel



JD, I agree with Luke, you sound like one Helluva DAD!!! You couldn't have put it any clearer, Family is what is #1!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Luke: I'm actually a 'stepdad' (I hate that term), but I try .

YM: I've never really gotten into college hoops for some reason, but I remember watching the Fab Five play. That was an awesome team.

Archangel: Yes it is, and I'm learning this more and more everyday. Worry about what is important and don't sweat the small stuff.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Saturday, March 26th

Elliptical Machine
25 minutes, aerobic program, level 7

Ab Roller Crunches
50
50
50

Leg Raises
12
12

Leg Press
4 plates x 30

Don't ask me why I did this. Just felt like it I guess .



Posted by: JerseyDevil

After bringing myself up to date in everyone's journal, I must say... thanks everyone for reminding me how my arms are my worst bodypart . If the arms don't look big, then you don't look big. Ever notice how even if a scrawny guy has decent guns, it makes him look big?

At 6'0", the biggest my arms have ever taped was 17". Right now @ 216 they measure only 16-1/2" cold, and my forearm a measly 13-5/8". My arms always have looked small on my body.... Even when I bulk, the weight goes to my gut, chest, love handles and face, not my arms or legs. Oh well, when I first started training my arms measured 11-1/2" .



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Gary and Arch: Yeah I think things will work out. Probably will never be quite as strong as I once was, but the most important thing is to keep on keeping on, my health, and my family. Lately, I've been hearing so many stories of acquaintances my age diagnosed with cancer, having heart attacks, and other ailments, not to mention a few who died unexpectedly... and I'm worried about not being able to push a given about of weight? I have since realized that is totally selfish of me, and I need to grasp what is really important in life.
I know exactly what you mean. At first it was the parents of the guys I went to school with that were dying . Now my classmates ! And just this morning I was thinking the same thing about not being able to push a given amount of weight since I will be starting a new wo Monday.

You are wise beyond your years !



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
After bringing myself up to date in everyone's journal, I must say... thanks everyone for reminding me how my arms are my worst bodypart . If the arms don't look big, then you don't look big. Ever notice how even if a scrawny guy has decent guns, it makes him look big?

At 6'0", the biggest my arms have ever taped was 17". Right now @ 216 they measure only 16-1/2" cold, and my forearm a measly 13-5/8". My arms always have looked small on my body.... Even when I bulk, the weight goes to my gut, chest, love handles and face, not my arms or legs. Oh well, when I first started training my arms measured 11-1/2" .
Hmmmmm ... How to respond to this ? Don't feel like the Lone ranger there JD. Biggest I've ever taped was 16.25 " at 207. Right now 15.5 " I think. Oh man ,when I started in HS i was a whopping 10 " if I was lucky ! Hope that made you feel better , if not disregard the post



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
At 6'0", the biggest my arms have ever taped was 17". Right now @ 216 they measure only 16-1/2" cold, and my forearm a measly 13-5/8". My arms always have looked small on my body.... Even when I bulk, the weight goes to my gut, chest, love handles and face, not my arms or legs.
It sounds like I've got a twin, except I have never hit the 17" mark. Arms twice a week, once a week, or not at all - it doesn't make a difference.



Posted by: LW83

Would you be my "stepdad"



Posted by: Rocco32

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
You sound like a GREAT dad




Posted by: Rocco32

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
After bringing myself up to date in everyone's journal, I must say... thanks everyone for reminding me how my arms are my worst bodypart . If the arms don't look big, then you don't look big. Ever notice how even if a scrawny guy has decent guns, it makes him look big?

At 6'0", the biggest my arms have ever taped was 17". Right now @ 216 they measure only 16-1/2" cold, and my forearm a measly 13-5/8". My arms always have looked small on my body.... Even when I bulk, the weight goes to my gut, chest, love handles and face, not my arms or legs. Oh well, when I first started training my arms measured 11-1/2" .
LOL, I'm with Gary on this one!!! I've hit 17 before but that was with fat. Semi-looking good I rarely get over 16-16.5 and people think I have big arms So I think your alright



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Probably will never be quite as strong as I once was, but the most important thing is to keep on keeping on, my health, and my family. Lately, I've been hearing so many stories of acquaintances my age diagnosed with cancer, having heart attacks, and other ailments, not to mention a few who died unexpectedly... and I'm worried about not being able to push a given about of weight? I have since realized that is totally selfish of me, and I need to grasp what is really important in life.
It's good you realize this, most people never do


Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
After bringing myself up to date in everyone's journal, I must say... thanks everyone for reminding me how my arms are my worst bodypart . If the arms don't look big, then you don't look big. Ever notice how even if a scrawny guy has decent guns, it makes him look big?

At 6'0", the biggest my arms have ever taped was 17". Right now @ 216 they measure only 16-1/2" cold, and my forearm a measly 13-5/8". My arms always have looked small on my body.... Even when I bulk, the weight goes to my gut, chest, love handles and face, not my arms or legs. Oh well, when I first started training my arms measured 11-1/2" .
I know EXACTLY what you mean about the arms. Mine suck too



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Gary: Guess you can tell I've been doing some soul searching lately, and I'm glad I struck the same chord in you my friend. It's all about balance . That said, I can't wait to hit the gym full time, but I do have a renewed outlook.

Captain Deadlift: Thanks for dropping by CD! Us 'mature' lifters need to stick together. Yeah, I noticed the same thing. My arms respond to a certain amount of simulation. Anything above that, it doesn't seem to matter. More volume, more weight, and with any variation... no more growth. It is like I am genetically predisposed to a given size.

Rock: I think you and I are "Brothers in Arms", and I don't mean just bi's and tri's. You remind me alot of myself....

Flex: LOL Yeah right. You may think that, but judging by your gallery pics which are over a year old, your guns look just fine . Thanks for your nice comments. Yes, family trumps all.



Posted by: Archangel

Hey JD, hows the rehab goin? I'm right there with you. I hate the term step-dad. It's so impersonable. I hate when people say how are your step-sons and your real Daughter doin? I could just beat the crap outta them!!! So from one "Father" to another.................. you da MAN!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
Would you be my "stepdad"
Oh I almost forgot. Luke, can I think about it?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Hey JD, hows the rehab goin? I'm right there with you. I hate the term step-dad. It's so impersonable. I hate when people say how are your step-sons and your real Daughter doin? I could just beat the crap outta them!!! So from one "Father" to another.................. you da MAN!!!
Hey AA! Just putting moist heat on it, and hoping for the best. I can feel the hematoma has gone down, and there hasn't been anymore bleeding. It feels fine, I rarely have any indication anything is wrong. I see the doc next Monday, and if he gives the ok, I can resume upper body workouts. Honestly, if he does, I'll probably wait another week .

I have no 'real' kids of my own. In my first marriage (this is my second), I also had a step child. I haven't seen or talked to the mother in over 7 years, and after we were divorced I moved 600 miles away. When you and mom get divorced, it is like you have divorced the child. That was hard. But I talk to my girl every 6 months or so. She is 27 now...

Luke... don't even think about it. I'm in no mood .



Posted by: Archangel

Yeah, that would be a heartbreak!!! My daughter is 3, soon to be 4, She is MY "Gift" from my wife, and my 2 sons are 20 and 17, soon to be 18. They where my wifes from her first marriage. I've been in their life since they where 5 and 7. Really can't think of my life any other way!!! I admire you JD, not alot of people, especially men think like that. My hats off to you Brother!!!




Posted by: JerseyDevil

Tuesday, March 29th

Squats (light day)
135 x 8
185 x 6
225 x 10
Reduced the weight 30 lbs from last leg workout, and focused on form.

Leg Press
2 plates x 10
4 plates x 8
6 plates x 8
8 plates x 8
10 plates x 8

Hyperextensions
20
20
20

In and out in around 30 minutes. Since upper body is out for awhile I want to do plenty of legs, but I need to cycle the intensity. Quick, easy wo today.



Posted by: Archangel

Good Lookin w/o there JD, Feels good to drop weight and focus on form doesn't it!!!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Hey AA! Just putting moist heat on it, and hoping for the best. I can feel the hematoma has gone down, and there hasn't been anymore bleeding. It feels fine, I rarely have any indication anything is wrong. I see the doc next Monday, and if he gives the ok, I can resume upper body workouts. Honestly, if he does, I'll probably wait another week .
There's nothing wrong with going VERY light. Several years ago I messed up one of my shoulders, did the PT bit, and then started up again at the gym. I was benching just the bar, going real slow, keeping the form good, and stretching a lot in-between sets. It probably looked really goofy for a 220-ish lb person to be doing sets with an empty bar, but it worked for me. Slow and steady does win the race.



Posted by: gwcaton

Hey JD,


Way to go. Stick to it !



Posted by: PreMier





Posted by: Archangel

Hey Brother JD, hows the pec injury? Miss your posts too!!!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Any updates?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

I need to take off another 2-3 weeks before resuming upper body workouts.

A couple of you already knew this via PM, I had to put my healthy dog to sleep on April 2nd and I've been grieving, and having bouts of guilt and depression ever since. I loved this dog, almost like a child. She bit two family members over a period of 6 weeks, so for the safety of my kids, I had no choice. I haven't done cardio or legs at all... just coming home and having a shot or two of tequila. Honestly, for the moment I could care less about working out. It seems so trivial now.

When I'm ready physically and emotionally, I'll get back to it.



Posted by: gwcaton

JD,

Sorry to hear about your dog. Ours is getting up in years and getting hard for him to get around. We are not looking forward to that day. He has been a constant companion , especially for my wife.

Hope you get to feeling better soon.



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Jersey -

Sorry to hear about your dog. They do become "family members".

Rest up and recoup.....



Posted by: Triple Threat

That wasn't exactly the type of update I was hoping to see. Hope things turn around soon for you.



Posted by: PreMier

I know what its like to lose all drive. Just keep your head up, you'll get through this.



Posted by: P-funk

hang in there JD.



Posted by: Archangel

Take care JD, We are here for you!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

I appreciate the words of support guys.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Tonight, I am starting to feel that desire again.



Posted by: Archangel

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Tonight, I am starting to feel that desire again.
SWEET!!!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Tonight, I am starting to feel that desire again.
And which desire might that be?



Posted by: Rocco32

How's the injury doing?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

The desire to get back in the gym of course.

The hematoma is still present on my chest, and the doc said I can't resume upper body workouts until it is completely gone. He checked it last Monday and said when I first saw him, it was about 4 times the size it is now... which is good news.



Posted by: Rocco32

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
The desire to get back in the gym of course.

The hematoma is still present on my chest, and the doc said I can't resume upper body workouts until it is completely gone. He checked it last Monday and said when I first saw him, it was about 4 times the size it is now... which is good news.
Hang in there buddy!



Posted by: Archangel

Sounds like your comin along just fine Brother. Take care and you'll be right back where you left off in no time!!!



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Hey Jersey .... How's it going ????





Posted by: Archangel

WE Miss you!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Jersey has left the forum . Well not exactly, I still 'lurk'. Doc gave me the go ahead to work upper body, and for the first time after the death of my best friend, I have the motivation to 'get busy'. Done 3 wo's.

DAMN am I weak! After 5 weeks of not working out, eating less and that was mostly crap, not to mention no testosterone (remember my doc took me off of Androgel), REALLY makes a difference. We just did a blood test, if it comes back ok, he will reinstate me on Androgel.

Anyways, we bought a golden retriever puppy, and I am devoting most of my weekday free time in the next few months to her. Sure, I'm going to workout, but I'm afraid I won't be on IM much, if at all.

Thanks to the few of you who checked up on me, and I wish everyone the best of luck.



Posted by: Archangel

Good hearing from you Brother JD!!! Looks like all is on the mend in your world. I will be here for you!!!
Cutest puppy I have seen!!!



Posted by: gwcaton

Hey JD,

Cute pup ! Good luck with everything you do and pop back in when ya can Not the same without you .



Posted by: PreMier

Who's the girl?

Nice to see you getting back at it. Its hard for me to visit IM much anymore now days too



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Jersey has left the forum . Well not exactly, I still 'lurk'. Doc gave me the go ahead to work upper body, and for the first time after the death of my best friend, I have the motivation to 'get busy'. Done 3 wo's.

DAMN am I weak! After 5 weeks of not working out, eating less and that was mostly crap, not to mention no testosterone (remember my doc took me off of Androgel), REALLY makes a difference. We just did a blood test, if it comes back ok, he will reinstate me on Androgel.

Anyways, we bought a golden retriever puppy, and I am devoting most of my weekday free time in the next few months to her. Sure, I'm going to workout, but I'm afraid I won't be on IM much, if at all.

Thanks to the few of you who checked up on me, and I wish everyone the best of luck.
Best of luck Buddy!! I'm sure you'll be back when you are ready.

Great looking puppy. You'll have a blast training her. I love my golden retriever.





Posted by: tucker01

Good luck JD! Gotta Agree with YM. Golden Retriever's Rock, gotta love'em watch the chewing



Posted by: JerseyDevil

AA: She is cute, isn't she . As always, thank you for your support and kind words.

Gary: I'll probably pop in on the weekends. Keep up the great work ripped grandpa!

Premier: Uh, that's my 12 year old stepdaughter . She has inherited her mother's good looks.

YM: I didn't know you had a Golden! Cool. She just turned 8 weeks and is still with Mom and her littermates. She comes home on Saturday. I can't wait to start training. We will start a puppy class in two weeks.

Iain: Thanks man. I've been reading all I can about Golden Retriever's and I know the chewing is going to be a real challenge .

Ok, just one more pic . This is my son holding her.



Posted by: Rocco32

What a cute dog buddy! Nice to see you still "lurking"



Posted by: PreMier

I should keep my mouth shut. I feel dirty..



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
I should keep my mouth shut. I feel dirty..
YOU ARE DIRTY - PM!!!!


Nice looking puppy Jersey!! You are going to have a ball training her! Get her in the water as soon as you can.



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Bump....I see you lurking. What's up my friend?



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowmoomba
Bump....I see you lurking. What's up my friend?




Posted by: Archangel

JD, hows it goin Brother? Miss your posts, hows the puppy doin?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Hey guys! Puppy is doing great. She is growing like a weed.

In the last week or so, I finally got back into working out consistently. Damn did I lose a LOT. Just last fall I was hovering around 227 and in bench doing 225 for 13-14 reps. Right now I'm 212 and yesterday could only manage 225 for 5 . That's about a 50 lb drop in my max.

Oh well, I guess not working out for 8 weeks, no gear, not eating enough (and what I ate was largely crap), and no Androgel really does make a difference. If you recall, my doc took me off of Androgel (which puts me in the normal testosterone range), because my hemoglobin was a high 18.8. You and I know it was due to the dbol/deca/test prop cycle I did last fall and winter, but he thinks it was the Androgel. We did another CBC a few weeks ago and it has dropped to 17.2, which according to almost every reference you see is in the normal range. Web MD for example shows normal as 14-18 g/dl. But LabCorp shows 14-17 g/dl, so the asshole refused to put me back on. Don't know what my test levels are now, but I'm betting they are around 150-200 ng/dl, which is really low. We are going to do another CBC in a few weeks. If he still doesn't allow me to go back on, I'm changing doctors. He is looking out for my best interest, but damn dude, give me a break. I'm weak as hell and my sex drive is in the dirt.

At any rate, I've got the desire to workout again and it feels good to be back at it. I am setting my sights lower and from here on out, no more gear or supraphysiological levels of testosterone. Too old for that shit . I'm glad I did a few cycles to see what it was all about. But now I feel like 'been there, done that' and it's time to turn the page and not look back. I have enough M1t to do a modest cycle. Once things have settled down I may do that just to get rid of it, but once that's gone... I'm done. Another reason is my left elbow is permanently screwed up. The increased weight being 'juiced' affords you, is just too much for it to handle. It feels better using the weight my body can naturally work up to.

On gear my max bench was 320-325, off cycle 300-305. Honestly, now I would be happy with 275-280 and doing 225 for 8 or 9 reps, so that is my short term goal for now. Sorry for the novel, but you guys asked .



Posted by: gwcaton

welcome home !!!



Posted by: LW83

Welcome Buddy!



Posted by: Rocco32

YES!! JD's back. Welcome home buddy, we've missed you. Remember, you'll get some of that strength back in a few weeks. It's not ALL gone. So are you going to start posting your w/o's again? Glad your back.



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Welcome back Jersey



Posted by: Pylon

Welcome back, Dev. Good to see things are looking up!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Welcome back, JD. Glad to see you back in the gym. But seriously consider another doctor, though.



Posted by: Rocco32

WTF?!?!? Where the hell are you JD?!? Get your ass back in here and give us an update on what's going on. I know your around and you should know there's quite a few people who really care about what's going on in your life and training so sit your ass down and write us a note



Posted by: Archangel

Your in my thoughts and prayers Brother Paul, just wanted you to know that, take care!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

LOL. It's nice to be wanted.

When I made my last post back on 5/15, everyone just assumed I was 'back'. Like I said earlier though, I just don't have the time to post my workouts any more. It's not the workouts per se, but posting it and then being obligated to posting in everyone else's. You know what I'm talking about . Yep, I still peek in now and then because I care about you guys too!

I have been slacking, but getting there. Working out 2-3 times a week. On bench press 225 feels about the way 265 felt about 10 weeks ago, and on incline 205 feels the way 245 felt. Oh well, it IS easier on my elbow and still not bad for being 49... and natural.

Can't promise I'll start posting workouts again, but trust me I will be checking in on my bro's.



Posted by: Rocco32

You know I understand the whole posting in everyone's journal thing. No worries there. Just check in here every now and then and let us know how things are going if your not going to post w/o's every day. And even if you did post w/o's everyday I don't think anyone would fault you for not posting in anyone else's journal. I think a lot of us go through the same thing, I know I do every couple of weeks (or days )

Is the elbow holding up for you? Are you noticing any improvement with the bench?



Posted by: PreMier

You are slacking as bad as me! hahaha



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocco32
Is the elbow holding up for you? Are you noticing any improvement with the bench?
Elbow is holding up great. I really think because I'm not subjecting it to as much weight. It bothers me when I'm doing the movements, but the next day it recovers fine. No discomfort at all, which is very cool.

Improvement on bench? Well after my layoff, I barely could bench 225 for 5. I only benched once a week for a few weeks then missed a a couple of weeks, and actually dropped down to 225 x 4. I'm one of those people who MUST bench twice a week to build strength. Many will tell you that is bull, but I have been down this road many times before. Once a week is fine for maintaining strength or building size, but to get stronger you must bench twice a week. Very few powerlifters bench once a week .



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
You are slacking as bad as me! hahaha
LOL Jake. We'll be back. You can take the boy out of the weight room, but you can't take the weight room out of the boy...



Posted by: gwcaton

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
LOL Jake. We'll be back. You can take the boy out of the weight room, but you can't take the weight room out of the boy...
Hey fellow slackers ! JD, how ya been ?!



Posted by: Rocco32

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
Elbow is holding up great. I really think because I'm not subjecting it to as much weight. It bothers me when I'm doing the movements, but the next day it recovers fine. No discomfort at all, which is very cool.

Improvement on bench? Well after my layoff, I barely could bench 225 for 5. I only benched once a week for a few weeks then missed a a couple of weeks, and actually dropped down to 225 x 4. I'm one of those people who MUST bench twice a week to build strength. Many will tell you that is bull, but I have been down this road many times before. Once a week is fine for maintaining strength or building size, but to get stronger you must bench twice a week. Very few powerlifters bench once a week .
Glad to hear the elbow is doing well. So are you going to do bench twice a week? Do you think everything needs to be done twice a week to build strength?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Ok, ok. I'll post my last couple of workouts.

I think Rocco just wants to see how 'pussifed' I have become .

Friday, June 3rd

Bench Press

bar x 10
135 x 10
155 x 8
185 x 5
225 x 5
225 x 5
205 x 7

120 sec RI's

HS Incline
100 x 8
190 x 8
240 x 9

120 sec RI's

DB Incline Flyes
30's x 8
40's x 8
50's x 8

60 sec RI's

Didn't time but I was in and out quickly.


Saturday, June 4th

Front Pulldowns
90 x 12
105 x 10
135 x 11

Slow, controlled, no leaning back. Touch chest and pause.

Deadlifts
135 x 5
185 x 5
225 x 5
265 x 6

I love deads. Restarted them 2 weeks ago and did 245 x 5. Easy does it. Goal is to add 10 lbs a week until I'm back up to 315 x 6. Each set done as a series of singles, much more effective and harder that way. Last week 255 x 5 felt heavy to me, today 265 felt easy...

One Arm DB Rows
50 x 6/6
80 x 6/6
100 x 6/6

Haven't done these in like, forever. LONG ways to go to catch up with YM.

Flex Curls
30's x 8
35's x 8
40's x 8

60 sec RI's

Hyperextensions
+20 x 12
+20 x 12
+20 x 12



Posted by: Rocco32

That's great w/o's JD. I still have to catch up with you Deads are out for me right now, maybe in 4 weeks I can do them again.



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwcaton
Hey fellow slackers ! JD, how ya been ?!
Wonderful Gary. How about you man?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocco32
Glad to hear the elbow is doing well. So are you going to do bench twice a week? Do you think everything needs to be done twice a week to build strength?
If I can get off my lazy ass I'll bench twice a week

Twice a week for everything? Not neccesarily. Bench, yes without a doubt. Squats and deads, no. Once a week is fine. In fact squats and deads can be interchanged for once every two weeks. Ever notice how when you lose weight, bench press is the first thing to go down?



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocco32
That's great w/o's JD. I still have to catch up with you Deads are out for me right now, maybe in 4 weeks I can do them again.
Why no deads?



Posted by: Rocco32

I gotcha!

No deads because I've done something to my back. I can't even bend over right now. A few weeks ago I hurt it doing deads after Bent Over Rows, since then it hasn't been the same. Still did Deads and all but back always hurt. Yesterday did Squats and now my back is really bad so I figure it's best to just leave it alone for at least 4 weeks to heal. So no deads/squats/bent rows/etc...



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Agreed! Let it heal before resuming.



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