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Posted by: JCH

Im new to this board so please dont jump my bones for asking..I have done searches and found alot of info.

I have purchased 2 bottles of 6-oxo for my PCT...as I hear this is one of the best supps to use after PH cycling.

This will be my first ever PH I have put into my body, Im new to wieght training and just have a few questions? Im wanting to use S1+ and would like to know, when you guys gain mass off any PH what kind of mass is it? all around body wieght or muscle wieght? does after taking a PH make your muscles more defined or it just you whole body is bigger? then you would have to cut up to see the bigger muscles?

when you are on a PH cycle, is it that whatever muscle you work is the one that will get bigger? so that means I would want to stay on an all body workout making sure I hit all the muscles?

that it or now, I'll ask more when I get some responses

thanks!

Posted by: Pirate!

Many questions, but I have one answer: You should not use PH until you have plenty of experience with weight training. But since you have already decided to, refer to the following thread for answers to some of these questions:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=27368

This is form that, but there is much more on this thread you will find informative:

12. Who should use prohormones?

Mature adults above the age of 21 looking for increases in lean muscle mass or decreases in bodyfat levels. Most veterans will advise using prohormones after several years of training, to ensure you have a good feel for proper diet, nutrition and supplementation. Using prohormones under the age of 18 is a very bad idea; it can result in the closure of growth plates, thus resulting in permanently stunted growth; it can also result in potentially serious endocrine system problems. Those with potential for or already enlarged prostate or those susceptible to male pattern baldness should not use prohormones; nor should prohormones be used by people with heart conditions, who currently have gynocomastia, or have liver or kidney problems. If you have any doubts, see a doctor before using these compounds.

9. What is post cycle therapy?

Post cycle therapy is a tried and true method of helping to solidify your gains by raising natural testosterone levels and lowering estrogen levels once your cycle is over. When you add external hormones to your body, your own natural production becomes suppressed. Your body attempts to compensate your endocrine system by stabilizing the other hormones, which results in an increase in estrogen. Once you quit supplying your body with external hormones, your natural testosterone will be low and estrogen will be high. Therefore, anti-estrogens are taken to halt the manufacture of estrogen in the body. This will result in higher testosterone levels, hence making it easier to keep your gains. Post cycle therapy should begin the next day after the prohormones have stopped being taken. Common post cycle therapy drugs are listed below with dosages:

6OXO
6oxo is an aromatize inhibitor sold by Ergopharm. It is the best over the counter anti-estrogen available for post cycle use.
Week 1 – 600mg daily in two divided doses, morning and night
Week 2-3 – 400mg daily
Week 4 – 300mg daily

Posted by: Luke9583

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Originally Posted by JCH

when you guys gain mass off any PH what kind of mass is it?

I'm still on my PCT from my first real expirience w/ a PH, so i can't attest to what kind of mass is retained, but with M1T, not only did I lose fat, get noticibily larger, but my muscles all felt much more 'dense' (especially my arms and chest)

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