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Incorporating M1T, Nolvadex, Saw Palmetto, and Liver Protection Medicine

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Posted by: NeedRoidHelp

I have got my hand on M1T, Nolvadex, Saw Palmetto, and Milk Thirsty (if I spelled it correctly). How do I incorporate the use of all of these? Do I have to use Nolvadex, Saw Palmetto, and Milk Thirsty (if I spelled it correctly) after the 4 weeks cycle of 10mg a day of M1T or I can use them all at the same time. At what dosage do I have to use.

Posted by: Pirate!

You are making a mistake not stacking with trasnsdermal 4-AD, IMO. It is well worth the money. If your M1T is of good quality, you will have a serious lack of energy. What brand of M1T do you have?

Posted by: Luke9583

I agree, and I know from expirience. Not only lethargy, but sinus infection like symptoms and depression.

Posted by: NeedRoidHelp

The one I got from bulknutrition.com. It is cheap. Here is the other one I saw but did not buy. it is expensive

http://www.methyl-1-test.com/

Could you please recommend, this is not steroid, I am sure you could recommend. Please.

What is trasnsdermal 4-AD, IMO? why do you recommend me those? please give a little bit detail if you can. if not, that is ok. I will buy also 6 oxo. Is it gonna help with the post cycle:

Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Thank You PirateFromHell

Posted by: Pirate!

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Originally Posted by NeedRoidHelp

The one I got from bulknutrition.com. It is cheap. Here is the other one I saw but did not buy. it is expensive

http://www.methyl-1-test.com/

Could you please recommend, this is not steroid, I am sure you could recommend. Please.

What is trasnsdermal 4-AD, IMO? why do you recommend me those? please give a little bit detail if you can. if not, that is ok. I will buy also 6 oxo. Is it gonna help with the post cycle:

Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Thank You PirateFromHell

I presume you got Underground Labs' M1T, then. I encourage you to read the entire sticky oh PH/PS for these answers. IMO = In my opinion. Here is the sticky to read: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=27368
M1T is a legal steroid, and is pretty harsh for your first cycle. After reading that sticky and learning more about transdermals, 4-AD, PCT, etc, We will help you put a good beginner's stack together. Don't rush into this. Educate yourself first.

Posted by: Purdue Power

Yes, this is definately not what you want to do for your first stack. You can save it for later down the road(good that you have it now, it will be banned later). You should read the Prohormone/Prosteroid FAQ for sure. I print it out for anyone who comes to me for advice. Read up on the 1AD/4AD stack. It is a tried and trued stack that is perfect for first and second stacks.

Posted by: Pirate!

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Originally Posted by Purdue Power

Read up on the 1AD/4AD stack. It is a tried and trued stack that is perfect for first and second stacks.

I agree that it is a good beginner's stack, but 1-Test/4-AD is better, and that is what S1+ is (already in correct proportions).

Posted by: NeedRoidHelp

Is trasnsdermal 4-AD from this website is what you talk about?

http://www.affordablesupplements.com/lgp_4-ad.asp

Posted by: PreMier

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=817

This is cheaper.

And I would wait to use the "liver protectants" untill after the cycle.

Posted by: NeedRoidHelp

Please recommend something from bulknutrition to substitute this product

http://www.affordablesupplements.com/formadrol_v2.asp

Is 4AD enough to stack with M1T and offset the side effect in addition to taking sax and milk thristle

Posted by: Pirate!

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Originally Posted by PreMier

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=817

This is cheaper.

And I would wait to use the "liver protectants" untill after the cycle.

This is a great deal on 4-AD, but you will have to buy something to stack it with (1-AD, or 1-T, or M1T). I still suggest 1-T for your first cycle. S1+ = 1-T and 4-AD together. Are you still leaning towards the M1T?

Posted by: NeedRoidHelp

Yes, will 4AD from bulknutrition help prevent

Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Just link 6oxo or not?

Posted by: Pirate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedRoidHelp

Yes, will 4AD from bulknutrition help prevent

Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Just link 6oxo or not?

No, 4-AD can contribute to these. If you run the cycle right, it is very unlikely you will need something for this. But the safe thing to do is to have plenty Tamoxifen Citrate (aka Nolva) before you start the cycle. Ideally, you will use it only for PCT (NOT 6-OXO). But if you start seeing signs of gyno, begin taking the Tamoxifen immediately. M1T will shut you down. No preventing that. You will still be able to perform in bed if you keep enough 4-AD coming in. Don't get 4-AD on chicks, though. They can develop manly characteristics (And I don't mean liking NFL and Hooter's). Know this: the first few weeks of PCT after M1T can be tough compared to 1-Test or 1-AD. Your choice, though. You keep asking questions that are answered in that sticky. Read it for your own good.

Posted by: Pirate!

Okay, you said you have nolva. Why are you asking about 6-oxo? Nolva is superior.

Posted by: PreMier

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedRoidHelp

Yes, will 4AD from bulknutrition help prevent

Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Just link 6oxo or not?

I HIGHLY suggest that you read the PH FAQ at the top of the supplement forum. I feel that one should always be educated on something that they take, and I dont feel that you know much at all.

Posted by: NeedRoidHelp

what is the first symptom of bitch tits?

Posted by: redspy

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Originally Posted by NeedRoidHelp

what is the first symptom of bitch tits?

When you start to look like a hairy version of Pamela Anderson.