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very interesting how this works.

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Posted by: joey2005

I was reading up on digestion. And even on cutting diets its extremely recommended to have protein/carbs up to 20 minutes after hitting the weights. I read somewhere , and it mentioned that carbs digest much differently after lifting weights than they do on a normal meal. Then they got all technical lol so i dont quite understand yet..does anyone know about this?



Posted by: soxmuscle

Whether your cutting, bulking or your just working out for the hell of working out, protein and carbs should be a must following your workout.



Posted by: BabsieGirl

Weight training for muscle growth is usually structured in 8 to 12 reps for every set. This is also called Anaerobic Training, because it doesn't need oxygen to be carried into the mitochondria to produce energy. In this case, since the use of oxygen isn't possible (remember that oxygen utilization for energy production is possible only when the rhythm of the heart and lungs match each other) the energy stored in the adipocytes as triacylglicerols cannot be used.

The only substrates that can mainly supply energy in the absence of oxygen are the ones stored in the muscles cells, that is the Glycogen and contractile proteins: Actin and Myosin.

Once training has begun, a drop in glucose level occurs which is in turn the key that triggers the signal for glucagon secretion, promoting glycogenolysis and thus promoting more availability for blood glucose that is ready to be used! Adrenaline also affects the glycogen depots resulting thus in a further glycogen depletion.

Unfortunately, muscle protein also gets affected and goes through what is called proteolysis (protein breaks down into amino acids). Once you finish the workout you want to replenish your glycogen depots first and then promote new protein synthesis. This is what everybody aims to achieve, but is also where most of people get lost!

Scientific evidence shows that consuming a blended protein and carb shake right after a workout and another one within two hours from the end of the workout will increase GH and INSULIN levels dramatically! The exact macronutrients doses should be 0.5 grams of protein per kg of Fat Free Mass (FFM) and 1.5 grams of carbs per kg of FFM.



Posted by: joey2005

ummmm...what does that mean? good bad for protein / carb shake? im confused lol



Posted by: Robert D.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BabsieGirl
Weight training for muscle growth is usually structured in 8 to 12 reps for every set. This is also called Anaerobic Training, because it doesn't need oxygen to be carried into the mitochondria to produce energy. In this case, since the use of oxygen isn't possible (remember that oxygen utilization for energy production is possible only when the rhythm of the heart and lungs match each other) the energy stored in the adipocytes as triacylglicerols cannot be used.

The only substrates that can mainly supply energy in the absence of oxygen are the ones stored in the muscles cells, that is the Glycogen and contractile proteins: Actin and Myosin.

Once training has begun, a drop in glucose level occurs which is in turn the key that triggers the signal for glucagon secretion, promoting glycogenolysis and thus promoting more availability for blood glucose that is ready to be used! Adrenaline also affects the glycogen depots resulting thus in a further glycogen depletion.

Unfortunately, muscle protein also gets affected and goes through what is called proteolysis (protein breaks down into amino acids). Once you finish the workout you want to replenish your glycogen depots first and then promote new protein synthesis. This is what everybody aims to achieve, but is also where most of people get lost!

Scientific evidence shows that consuming a blended protein and carb shake right after a workout and another one within two hours from the end of the workout will increase GH and INSULIN levels dramatically! The exact macronutrients doses should be 0.5 grams of protein per kg of Fat Free Mass (FFM) and 1.5 grams of carbs per kg of FFM.
please post your sources when you copy/paste.

here is the source for this: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/casi2.htm



Posted by: Vieope

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio
please post your sources when you copy/paste.

here is the source for this: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/casi2.htm
Before posting here Robert, read the rules of the board. Posting sources is not allowed.
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Posted by: BabsieGirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio
please post your sources when you copy/paste.

here is the source for this: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/casi2.htm
If you say it's okay



Posted by: BulkMeUp

Quote:
Originally Posted by BabsieGirl
The exact macronutrients doses should be 0.5 grams of protein per kg of Fat Free Mass (FFM) and 1.5 grams of carbs per kg of FFM.
That would be 1:3 ratio. Which means to the 25g pro post wo (as per the above info i should be doing 28.5g) i should add 75g carbs to it?

i consume a solid meal of carbs+pro in 1hr after my wo. should i take those carbs into this calc?



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Posted by: LAM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
That would be 1:3 ratio. Which means to the 25g pro post wo (as per the above info i should be doing 28.5g) i should add 75g carbs to it?

i consume a solid meal of carbs+pro in 1hr after my wo. should i take those carbs into this calc?
If you are spiking your insulin PWO you want the post WO meal to very low in carbs and they should be low GI. insulin sensitivity lowers drastically for several hours after an insulin spike...



Posted by: Robert D.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BabsieGirl
If you say it's okay
okay?

you should always post your source if you're going to copy and paste part of an article, or at the very least say that you copied it from an article.








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