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Posted by: Tom_B

Well after a couple of weeks of contemplating whether or not to make a journal I finally decided to start one, can't be that bad. So here I go
Better start out with some backround info and my stats
Male
15
5'8
127.5 pounds (mostly water I think)
Forearms - 8.4"
Biceps - 9"
Chest - 33.4"
waist - 26.3"
Hip to Hip - 29.5" (problem area)
Thighs - 18.4"
Calves 11.5"


I was 120 punds before deciding to go on a bulk, my weight went up and down while trying to figure out the amount of calories I needed and then at 2800 I just kinda started to maintain at 121 lbs. Then I went out and bought some real weights (was using a cable pulley system for 2 months) and droped my cardio down to 3x a week from 5x a week then after that I started gaining about 2 pounds every week and figured it was water I would have sweated out during the extra cardio, then I stayed the same weight last week so by the end of this week I'll learn if I'm gaining any muscle/fat when I weigh/measure myself.

Training- Leg Day *please don't make fun of my weights, I know I'm a weakling *
Squats *50 lbs* 1 x14 reps, 3 x12 reps
Lunges *50lbs* 1 x14 reps, 3 x 12 reps (for each leg)
SLDL *50lbs* 1x14 reps, 3x 12 reps
Leg extension *35Lbs* (really all I can fit on it lol, besides my legs are too long for it and I end of really hurting my knees) 1x14 reps, 3x 12 reps
Lying Leg curls *35Lbs* 1x14 reps, 3x12 reps
Calf raises *50lbs* 1x14 reps , 3x12 reps

Abs- Plate Twists *15lbs* 3x15reps
Side bends *25lbs* 30x each side

God I hate Lunges with a passion, I'm fine with my squats and SLDL's etc. but god Lunges are damn hard, almost feel over and smashed my barbell into my T.V. Ha, that would be fun trying to make up a Lie for that one, I did manage to get away with it when I smashed my mirrior with my barbell

Diet -
Meal 1- 3/4 of a protein pancake , Pear
*workout*
Post Meal - scoop of whey, Pear, 3/4 cup of brown rice
Meal 2 - Atherjen's Chocolate cheesecake with some modifications
Meal 3 - Brown Rice, Chicken, carb counting tortilla wrap
Meal 4 - Almonds, Canoil oil, egg whites, fiber 1, Low carb soy milk
Meal 5 - Chick Peas, Lettuce, tuna, Lemon Juice
Meal 6- cottage cheese, almond butter

Well I decided to try and make a pancake using some soy powder, oatmeal, cottage cheese and fiber 1..... put in WAY too much water, forgot to blend the ingredients, forgot to use Pam and put the burner up to maximum....result in one nasty ass burnt up pancake (mom had ALOT of fun trying to clean the pan ...although wasn't too funny when she started bitchin at me )
So in order to even try and at that thing I had to use half of my atkins pancake syrup lol. O well I'm gonna try and make it again tonight, hopefully it'll turn out right, I'm gonna make some changes and put in some egg white and baking soda and take out the cottage cheese.
Also tried making a salad today, it was......interesting in a kiind of it's burning my lips and teeth kind of way. Note to self don't put in so much damn lemon juice.


God today was so damn borning, not to mention I hate my art teacher. Went to ask her if I could use the washroom and she flips out at me asking why I go to the washroom every day, so I told her I drink 6.5L of water a day, she then hold up this 1.5L water jug thing and says o so cocky "well I drink one of these a dat and I'm fine" so I told her my body isn't use to it yet so she told me to hurry up and use the washroom, so as I was leaving she picks up her water bottle and checks to see how many Litres it is, and then just as I'm about to leave the room she goes "OMG! never mind! 6.5L is ALOT of water" I was thinking to myself of course it is your stupid fat ass bitch. I probably hate her too since I can't even attempt to draw and hate anybody that tries to make me ( had to take the class for a fine arts credit..). Then my English teacher must be on her rag or something cause she decides she wants to make a new seating plan and stand in one spot the entire class yelling at people, I swear to go she did on move one damn step.
So tired today so I had 3 cups of green tea and some coffee, which I'm now offically addicted to god I love coffee, coffee, coffee, coffee .



Posted by: tryintogetbig

good luck, keep postin in the journal



Posted by: Emma-Leigh

Hey Tom!!!

It is DEFINITELY an excellent idea for you to starting a journal! Writing down your diet and training will help you analyse your decisions and keeps you accountable for your actions. It will also allow others to help you out when they can as well.



Great start (and good to see your weight up a little ) and keep up the hard work! You will get there - you can fix things and I know you will.



Posted by: Tom_B

tryingtogetbig - lol ya I'm gonna try my best to keep postin, I'll find time somewhere

Emma-Leigh - Hey! thanks for the encouraging words, I was extremely happy to see my weight up, now all I can pray for it that it wasn't water and some good old muscle, (that way I won't have to do the binge thing ) guess I'll find out Sunday. I plan on gaining about another 13 pounds before going on my cut, which I have no idea how long that'll be, untill I look good in the mirrior I guess.

Training- HITTCardio / Pilates day
Cardio - 12 minutes on my Elpitical trainer, 8 minutes skipping and a 5 minute walk to cool down
Pilates - 20-30 minutes of Pilates following 3 sets of 60 secs. of stomach vaccums.


Diet-
Meal 1 - cardboard pancakes

*cardio*
Meal 2 - low carb soy milk, oatmeal, whey, pear
Meal 3 - Atherjen's choclate peanut butter cheescake, pear
Meal 4- Brown rice, Torilla Wrap, Tuna

Meal 5 - Almonds, Egg whites, Becil oil , fiber 1
Meal 6 - Lettuce, Lemon juice, tuna(again..) chickpeas
Meal 7 - Cottage cheese, unsweetned peanut butter

god I can never get those pancakes right, I probably should switch the soy powder around with some cottage cheese to make it moist but that defeat the perpose of me buying the soy powder which means I wasted $20 some bucks... o well. Pissed off at myself for two things today:
1- I forgot to ask dad to bring me home some chicken from the restaurant so I was stuck eating more tuna
2- I forgot my almonds at home so I was stuck waiting 3 1/2 hours before eating my other meal, I know it's not a big deal but it's not my usuall system god I hate when I routine changes, I had to think about if I should make those pancakes for 2 weeks before giving in..o well


Today was a usuall boring day EXCEPT for lunch....I got into 4 (yes 4) bitch fights within 10 minutes! I was just joking around when I chanllenged my friend (whose a girl) to a slapping bitch fight but she was serious! neddless to say I kicked her ass, then it kinda of turn into this big slapping war, I won all my fights..awell except for one cause I was disqualified for slapping someone in the throat ans they had to stop cause they couldn't breath...but that's the entire point of fighting dirty, so to me I won that one *yes I know me and my friends are losers and have absoutley no life...but it was damn funny! ). It also got weird in keyboarding class after some guy tried grabbing my ass ....
anyways I gtg and watch some stupid ass soccer game and make fun of some little kids, god I'm a great person






Posted by: Tom_B

Training- Back/Bi Day
Bent over rows *20lbs* 1x14, 3x12
Shrugs *60lbs* 1x14, 3x12
DB pullover *20lbs* 1x14, 3x12
BB curl *40 punds* 1x14, 3x 12
Concentration curls *15 lbs* 1x 14, 3x12
Abs
Weighted Jacknife *15lbs* 3x 15
Weighted crunch *25lbs* 3x15


Diet-
Meal 1 - Oatmeal, unsweetned soy milk, fiber1, whey, peat
*workout*
Post workout- Brown rice, whey, pear
Meal 2- oatmeal and soy powder
Meal 3 - brown rice, tuna, carb counting tortilla wrap
Meal 4 - almonds, egg whites, becil oil, fiber 1
Meal 5 - 100% whole wheat wrap, tuna, brown rice
Meal 6 - cottage cheese, unsweetned PB


Well I now offically have my first black eye , when I was doing my ab exercises I thought I'd add a 10lbs weight on top of my 25lbs weight, well being my stupid self I forgot to hold on to the 10lbs weight and forgot it would slip off came up for my crunch and when I came back down WHAM 10lbs weight came down and hit me in the eye, god I'm an idiot. On a die not I could barely walk today which is really sad considering I did legs 2 days ago and I don't even do THAT much compared to everyone else o well.

Well I forgot to make some more chocolate cheesecake so I decided to try mxing oatmeal and soy powder for a meal (since I can' use anymore whey, I spend a fortune on that stuff as it is) and OMG it was the most nasty thing I have ever eaten I could only eat 3/4 of it before it was coming back up so I threw the rest out and just added a little bit more serving size to one of my other meals to make up for it.

Todat the damn art teacher flioed out at me again for using the washroom, I hate the f*cki*g c*nt so much! O well my mom's writting a not tonight explaining my situation to her, now she's gotta lay off.
Work tonight was well...work OO I did get to cook a little bit though
Thank god this is gonna be a long weekend because of thanksgiving (which I'm no tgonna celebrate...I may sit down with my family and have my regualr supper while they eat their feast so I can be apart of the conversations) I need it, my room's a mess and more importantly I need sleep! I'm so tired, I hate to see how next terms gonna be since homework will be tripled since I have math, science, Com-Tech and Social Studies that's gonna be an interesting 4 months.



Posted by: PreMier

Wow, your a young'n. Keep up the good work. I wish I had gotten started earlier.



Posted by: Tom_B

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Originally Posted by PreMier
Wow, your a young'n. Keep up the good work. I wish I had gotten started earlier.
Thanks although most of my routine was devised by Emma-Leigh thank god for all her knowledgey knowledge, it's kinda scay at times . I love the whole BB aspect of my life, it's the reason I get up in the morning I know sad, but weight trainings the only time I get to myself, wher I can just relax and focus on me, and the only time I priortize myself over other. I'll be happy too once I can get my strength up, people here that beching like 300lbs, if I ever attempted to bench that much I'd be dead , o well I see strength as just a side gain.


P.S. sorry for all my spelling/grammar error, this year I decided to take up keyboarding cause there was nothing else for me to take and I'm trying to type the "proper" way so I don't screw myself up in keyboarding class, I'm getting better though



Posted by: Emma-Leigh

Hey Tom,

There is nothing sad about enjoying your training, or as having training as a major part of your life. That is what bodybuilding is - It is about you as a whole. It is a lifestyle, not just 'what you do at the gym', so it is going to be a major part of who you are. Your health, your mind and you body are all involved... So if your weight training gives you solace, then that is all the more reason to do it.

And do not always put yourself down about what weights you are currently lifting - everyone has to start somewhere and it is not just about 'getting huge' or 'benching 300 pounds' - as long as you are constantly testing your boundries, then that is all that really counts.

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Well I now offically have my first black eye , when I was doing my ab exercises I thought I'd add a 10lbs weight on top of my 25lbs weight, well being my stupid self I forgot to hold on to the 10lbs weight and forgot it would slip off came up for my crunch and when I came back down WHAM 10lbs weight came down and hit me in the eye, god I'm an idiot.
Arggg... That sounds painful! Are you ok? You are lucky that a black eye is all you got - you could have smashed your nose, broken teeth or worse!!

Don't worry - we have all done similar things! I have dropped a 44 pound plate (on it's side, so the force was concentrated in a small area) on my big toe before!! Owwwwwwiieeee - That hurt!

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Well I forgot to make some more chocolate cheesecake so I decided to try mxing oatmeal and soy powder for a meal (since I can' use anymore whey, I spend a fortune on that stuff as it is) and OMG it was the most nasty thing I have ever eaten I could only eat 3/4 of it before it was coming back up so I threw the rest out and just added a little bit more serving size to one of my other meals to make up for it.
LOL! I LOVE oats and soy powder!! Oats + oatbran + soy powder + cinnamon =

What soy powder where you using? Was it flavoured? Did you cook it?

Anyway - You are looking great! Keep it up!



Posted by: Tom_B

Hey Emma!
lol I know there's noghting wrong about enjoying my weight training, your people are the only people I can ever talk to about this stuff, everyone else usually tells me to shut up or something but what really gets me mad is that people think it's just a weight thing, when I tell them I exercise and eat right etc. they look at me and say "why? you don't need it" I hate when people say that, how exactly do they think I look the way I look just sitting on the couch all day? Besides like you said it's not just a weight thing, it's a lifestyle, a lifestyle I love and wouldn't change it for anything

The way I look at it is I'm only 15, so I have all my life to be able to increase my strength, no point in rushing it, like you said all that counts is testing your boundries

OW! 44 pound plate?! lol I'm glad all I got hit with was a 10 lbs plate and walked away with a black eye.


lol your love some weird stuff Emma!
The soy powder was unflavored (probably why it was so nasty), it was either unflavoured soy powder OR unflavoured vegetarin soy powder, great selection eh?
All I did was take some oatmeal add 3/4 of a cup of water, nuked it then added the soy powder to it and stirred, and it'll be the last time I eat that stuff!



Posted by: Tom_B

Training - HIIT cardio and pilates day
Cardio - 3 minute (ish) on elpitical trainer then 17 minutes of skipping.
Pilates - 25 minutes followed by 3 60secs stomach vaccums

Diet
Meal 1 - oatmeal, unsweetned soy milk, fibre 1, pear, whey
*cardio*
Post workout - brown rice, whey
Meal 2 - oatmeal, whey
Meal 3 - brown rice, carb counting torilla wrap, skinless shciken breast
Meal 4- Almonds, Egg whites, brown rice
Meal 5- Lettuce, Broccoli, tuna, chick peas, brown rice
*pilates*
Meal 6 - Cottage cheese, almond butter , unsweetned PB


Well no more elpitical trainer for me (at least for a little while) , go on it this morning got through 3 minutes when the hinge holding one of the foot pedal things now has a hole through it, I guess I was going to fast and it was slowly being eaten away at (maybe thats where all the rust on my floor was coming from ), or it could have been the fact I bought it at a using good store for $70 which means no refunds . This week I'm going out to buy this machine called 6 second abs which can go up to 55 lbs, that way I can start lifting more with my abs without black eyes . So I guess I'll have to go out and buy either another elpictical trainer, a cycle, or a treadmill in 2 weeks time, problem is I don't know which one . Tread mill gets hard on my chins, I love elpitical trainers but the cycles are like $50 cheaper just don't know if there a good workout since I've never used them, any suggestions anyone?

Today was so long and boring! As for the whole art teacher from hell is now dealt with, all I had to get through was her class today and mom was gonna talk to her after school, so in order for me not having to go to the washroom I didn't drink alot of water in the morning and all morning I had a bad headache, I was nausea and I felt just horrible! got through it though and I'm feeling alot better now (as soon as I got out of her class I chuged down 3L).
Thank god it's a long weekend (mon= thanksgiving won't be celebrating that) I need the sleep, it's just been one of those every week hetic weeks that you use the weekend to sleep!
I'm gonna measure /weigh myself tomorrow (a day early) that way I can figure out if I'm gonna do the binge thing on sunday and if I do I'm gonna switch around my Chest/Shoulder/Tri day with my Leg day.
Anyways I keep going on I need to get some sleep!




Posted by: PreMier

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
Hey Emma!
lol I know there's noghting wrong about enjoying my weight training, your people are the only people I can ever talk to about this stuff, everyone else usually tells me to shut up or something but what really gets me mad is that people think it's just a weight thing, when I tell them I exercise and eat right etc. they look at me and say "why? you don't need it" I hate when people say that, how exactly do they think I look the way I look just sitting on the couch all day? Besides like you said it's not just a weight thing, it's a lifestyle, a lifestyle I love and wouldn't change it for anything
Trust me, your young. Once improvement starts to show, people will ALWAYS ask what you are doing, to the point of annoyment



Posted by: Tom_B

lol true Premeir, Then I guess you have to spend about 15 mins explaining stuff that just falls on deaf ears, since there's no way the "average" persons giving up ther ice-cream and sweets
I use to do that I'd always explain to people why you should be eating every 3 hours, why you should drink X amount of water because... but noone actually listens to you, more like they don't try and comprehend what your telling them, so I just say I eat healthy and exercise and leave it at that.



Posted by: Tom_B

Training - (Emma's gonna be mad..)
Shoulda been a rest day, but I did HIIT cardio

Diet -
Meal 1 - oatmeal, unsweetned soy milk, whey, fiber 1, pear
*cardio*
Post workout - brown rice, whey, pear
Meal 2 - skinless chicken breast, brown rice, carb couting totilla wrap
Meal 3 - brown rice, chick peas, becil canoil oil, egg whites
Meal 4 - brown rice, tuna, carb counting totilla wrap
Meal 5 - almonds, almond butter, unswettened BP, cottage cheese


I think I'm gonna have a mental break down, so many things are messed up.
I'll start with the BB aspect of my life.
i weighed myself today, and guess waht I weigh? 126.5! I lost a pund, how I have no idea but I'm pissed off cause that means tommorrow I have to do the binge thing (eating 4000-5000 calories of junk while still getting in some fiber, complexed carbs after my workout, and 1.5x my body weight in protein) which I really don't want to do but I'm gonna have to I guess, I'll do it on my leg days, hopefully that'll work out and won't cause that much of a fat gain.
The thing I don't understand is how could I have lost a pound? could it be my new found addictin to caffine, that BTW I'll never give up!
I went out a bought "the six second abs" and it's actually worth it! I gave it a shot using approx. 40 lbs and they started to hurt after about 10 reps. Still have no idea what is best for cardio, tread mill, elpitical or cycler can someone give me some advice from personal experience?
Now for the other part of my life, how fun
This morning I was bitched at about the power bill being $700, of course it's all my fault not, my siblings, and since my parents pay the bill it's alright fir them to leave their TV on all night or whatever they choose too (I always have to turn off the tv downstairs and the tv in there room when I wake up cause they forgot too), is it just me or does that not make sense at all?
So after she said that i told her that I'll just move out ( been thinking about since your allowed to legally run away when your 16 and my friend that's 18 needs a room mate at the end of the year) and she said if that's what's gonna make me happy then I can move out, so I told her I'll need a new job somewhere else since she can't give me the hours at the restaurant that I need, so I'll be job searching after I get my SIN number. Like hell I'm eating thanksgiving my family (it wasn't even gonna be thanksgiving, dad wasn't gonna close the restaurant and we were gonna go to the restaurant while it was still open and eat ou thanksgiving ther ewhile dad worked ) I'm gonna eat thankgiving with my friend's family (wasn't even gonna have thanksgiving but since tommorrows my "binge day" I might as well). The only person in my family I have respect for is my father, and what hurts most is that he loves my sisters more (he's mine and my brother's stepdad, our real dad's in rehab right now..he's a keeper) since there his. Like for instance I've had a hemrroid for at least 7 months now and have been bitching at my parents to schedule a doctors appointment since the cream dosen't work, but they haven't. But the moment my sister had a fever they rushed her up to the hospital as if she was gonna die or something.
I hate my family so much, I'm really considering moving out at the end of the year, I know it'll be hard as hell but anythings better than this.



Posted by: Emma-Leigh

Tom...... And what is this:

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
Training - Shoulda been a rest day, but I did HIIT cardio


HIIT cardio - The day before legs??

What are you thinking??!! Do you want your legs to remain like little toothpicks? Tiny stick-things extending from the bottom of your body?!

Did you do it because you are planning a 'binge' tomorrow?? Just to work off a little more energy before the day? Or did you do it because you are stressed at the moment??

Anyway - don't make a habit of it! Especially when your weight is down!

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Diet -
Meal 1 - oatmeal, unsweetned soy milk, whey, fiber 1, pear
*cardio*
Post workout - brown rice, whey, pear
Meal 2 - skinless chicken breast, brown rice, carb couting totilla wrap
Meal 3 - brown rice, chick peas, becil canoil oil, egg whites
Meal 4 - brown rice, tuna, carb counting totilla wrap
Meal 5 - almonds, almond butter, unswettened BP, cottage cheese
Looking good...

Post-workout are you able to go for a carb other than brown rice? Brown rice is a good carb, but it is not the best post-workout... Same with the pear - this is not the best post-workout option. A banana or some grapes would be better than the pear and, instead of the rice what about some thinly rolled oats? You could also consider adding some milk products.

Now I know you do not like 'sugars', but the 'sugar' in milk is not going to do you any harm. Neither that in fruit. Especially if it is after your workout.

Milk post-workout offers you meany benifits that should not be overlooked - it is HIGHLY anabolic (think of what the purpose of milk is!!) and HIGHLY anti-catabolic at the same time! It stimulates growth factors, restores electrolytes, provides you with carbs and proteins AND has a higher insulin index - which helps your body quickly replenish your muscle glycogen!

Banana's are great as well - they are a higher glucose fruit, meaning they have more energy in them. They are also high in potassium for recovery purposes as well!

What about 0.75 cup oats (37.5g of carbs), 1 med banana (~25g of carbs) and 250ml of skim milk (16g carbs, 12g protein) with 1.5 scoops of whey (~36g of protein) to give you a total of ~78g carbs and ~48g complete protein?

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I think I'm gonna have a mental break down, so many things are messed up.
I'll start with the BB aspect of my life.
i weighed myself today, and guess waht I weigh? 126.5! I lost a pund, how I have no idea but I'm pissed off cause that means tommorrow I have to do the binge thing (eating 4000-5000 calories of junk while still getting in some fiber, complexed carbs after my workout, and 1.5x my body weight in protein) which I really don't want to do but I'm gonna have to I guess, I'll do it on my leg days, hopefully that'll work out and won't cause that much of a fat gain.
Don't be too concerned with 1 pound on a single day of weighing yourself. One pound can just be that you pee-d a little more than normal that morning. It is only if that weight loss is consistent that you should get concerned.

I am still against the idea of a 'binge day' it can lead to all sorts of trouble down the track (binge eating disorders, food 'control' issues etc etc), but if you are going to do it, then you at least picked a good day (legs day + thanksgiving! ).

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The thing I don't understand is how could I have lost a pound? could it be my new found addictin to caffine, that BTW I'll never give up!
Just watch your bones - caffine is going to be doing nothing for them.

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Still have no idea what is best for cardio, tread mill, elpitical or cycler can someone give me some advice from personal experience?
Your body quickly adapts to cardio, so I would keep all of them in.



I am sorry to hear of your troubles with your family. I hope things are not as bad as they seem.... I would try to hang in there and stick it out until you get yourself through school. You have your whole life ahead of you to struggle with living by yourself - take advantage of the fact that you have your parents roof for now. Get your health and your future sorted out first...



Posted by: M.J.H.

Nice to see someone 15 with this kind of dedication to start a journal. Good luck bro! I am looking forward to seeing your progress.



Posted by: Tom_B

Training- Leg day
Squats - *50lbs* 1x14, 3x12
Lunges - " " "
SLDL- " " "

Leg extension *35lbs* 1x14, 3x12
Lying Leg Curl " " "
Calf raises - *50lbs* " "


Diet - (get the picture? lol)
Meal 1 - Chicken Balls, ALmond soo guy, Chicken Chow Mein, cookies, Whey
*Weights*
Post workout - 2% milk (omg tha's so sick, my poor stomch ), resse puffs, Whey, Pear stir fried rice, cookies (can't do Emma's pstworkout meal till WED when I can get the stuff)
Meal 2 - Soy Powder, unsweetened soy milk, fibre 1
Meal 3 - rice chips, passion flake, oh Henry, Soy powder
Meal 4 (thanksgiving meal) - Turkey, Gravy, turnup, squash, carrots, Potatoes, dressing, pumpkin Pie, Apple pie, Ice cream
Meal 5- Donught, cottage cheese, LOTS of cookies, pear


OMG I'm going to be so sick! how people eat junk food everday of their life I have no idea! Thank god I didn't eat that much clean food I really would be barfing (since I find clean food ALOT more filling). SO help me god if I don't gain any weight next week . I went out to my best friends for thanksgiving instead of staying home, it was so much fun!! I haven't enjoyed myself like tha tin a long time . I think I may have went over 5000 calories, o well that's good I suppos. Nothing else really happen today, except I'll be staying up late trying to drink the rest of the water I need to drink, in my already EXTREMLY BLOATED tummy, ugh..



Posted by: Tom_B

Training - HIITCardio and Pilate Day followed by 3 stomach vaccums at 60 secs.

Diet-
Meal 1 - Soy , brown rice, fiber 1, unsweetened soy milk, pear
*cardio*
Meal 2 - yay even more soy..., thin rolled oats, unsweetened soy milk, pear, chicken, brown rice
Meal 3- chicken, brown rice, carb counting toritlla wrap
*Pilates and stomach vaccums)
Meal 4- 100% whole wheat tortilla wrap, tuna, almonds
Meal 5- canoil oil, egg whites, fiber 1, almonds
Meal 6 - almond butter, peanut butter, cottage cheese

Omg I was freaking out because I only have 3 more servings of whey and I can't get any till tomorrow night!!
So I figured having whey pre and post workout is more important on weight training days then cardio days, so I was stuck eating soy for my pre and post workout, omg it was nasty sh*t, although it was "edible" after I added a fair amount of crystal light


I may have to start going outside for some jogs at 5am in the morning since it'll be about 3 weeks before I can get another eliptical trainer..fun knowing my luck I'll trip over something in the dark. Speaking of cardio I was bored today and I researched HIIT cardio for the hell of it and it said that afterwards you shouldn't eat anything for an hour to reap all the metabolic benefits, but itsn't that a little long, how are you suppos to have a post workout meal?

I might do another Leg Day on Sat since my legs were sore today, must mean I didn't hit them hard enough yesterday I suppos, or I didn't get enough protein or complexed carbs? I don't know, I think I'm not gonna do that binge day thing, I feel so..gross I'm retaining so much water. But I don't know what to do, if I losing weight at 2800 calories that would mean I need to increase my cals to 3800 calories, and I can't eat that much everyday!! My only chance would be if I increase my fats, like peanut butter or somthing but wouldn't like 190G of fat be a little much?..I'll have to figure something out by the end of the week.

Thank god today there was no school, I just relaxed all day and got much needed sleep might as well do my art homework tonight since I have nothing else to do, ok off to draw one seriously fucked sketch of a shoe why, why did I take art this year!!



Posted by: SlimShady

Hi Tom.. I think you're doing great. Just wanted to say that I enjoy your writing.



Posted by: Emma-Leigh

Hey Tom!

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Speaking of cardio I was bored today and I researched HIIT cardio for the hell of it and it said that afterwards you shouldn't eat anything for an hour to reap all the metabolic benefits, but itsn't that a little long, how are you suppos to have a post workout meal?
This is bull!! Where on earth did you read that peice of mis-information??!! If you wait for that long to eat after HIIT and you will get some major cortisol release, increased protein degredation (for use as energy) and do yourself no favours at all!

You should treat post-HIIT the same as a weight training session, especially when you are trying to ADD MASS!!! (You really have to get your brain to acknowledge this fact Tom!! At the moment you are still in the 'got to loose weight' frame of mind - even if it may be somewhat subconscious...).

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I might do another Leg Day on Sat since my legs were sore today, must mean I didn't hit them hard enough yesterday I suppos, or I didn't get enough protein or complexed carbs?
Why do another legs day if you are sore??!! That makes no sense! (Or do you mean that you are not sore and you just made a typo?). Either way, stick to one day/week.

Also - muscle soreness has to do with a lot of different things, so don't judge workout effectiveness on your 'soreness'.

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I don't know, I think I'm not gonna do that binge day thing, I feel so..gross I'm retaining so much water.
Good. It isn't healthy (physically or psychologically).

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But I don't know what to do, if I losing weight at 2800 calories that would mean I need to increase my cals to 3800 calories, and I can't eat that much everyday!! My only chance would be if I increase my fats, like peanut butter or somthing but wouldn't like 190G of fat be a little much?..
Hmmmm... You could increase your fats a little (not sure about 190g though! )... You could also increase carbs a bit more too.

But you may just have to decrease your activity a little if you can not eat much more...



Posted by: Tom_B

SlimShady - thanks for stoping by! lol I woulda guessed that my writting would be the boring part, espically considering my life's so dull, but I'll take any compliment I can get . I'll try my best to keep my posts constant


Emma - Leigh - Hey! haven't spoken to ya in a while, and by a while I mean two days BTW may I mention your kicking ass! I always read your journal, it's become a hobby saddly.

I got the HIIT thing straightened out, right after I asked it in my journal bulkmeup mentioned it in another thread you answered, I got my same info from the place he did . But yours is the only advice that matters!
I know I have to add mass, it's just scary for me, I think the weight I'm gaining is going ot straight to my stomach and thighs (since my thighs are already pretty big compared to my calves there 7 inches bigger )

Opps! majore typo on the leg things lol, your right I meant to say that they weren't sore. I figured I didn't hit them as much, since I'm always sore the day after, unless my bodies already adapted after 2 workouts is that even possible?

I defiently have to quit the binge day thing, espically considering I kept getting horrible chest pains , not to mention I must have almost thrown up at least 10 times

lol ya 190G of fat is ALOT, what I shoulda put is "and by a little I mean ALOT " who knows what I'll do, I'll figure something out during the week.

My problem is, is that I'm already not active! I've been trying to decrease my activity level so I wouldn't have to eat as much but it seems it actually increased my metabolism. The only things I do in a day is my workouts, going to and from school, and work if I have to. The rest of the day I'm preparing meals/eating/doing homework/playing game etc.
I may walk out to the mall with my friends once or twice a week but that's all really...
If I have ot eat 3800 calories then I'd be eating 30x my body weight, is that even healthy?



Posted by: Luke9583

What's your weight today tom?



Posted by: Tom_B

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Originally Posted by Luke9583
What's your weight today tom?
Hey luke! how ya been?
lol I was too scared to weigh myself today since I'm still retaining some water, hopefully it'll all be gone by the time sat/ or sun comes by for my weighing, and hopefully I gained something too!
although how would I tell if it's water or not , o god I wish I never did that binge, it completly messed me up!
*never again will I go against Emma's advice *



Posted by: Luke9583

Nah man, there's no messin up. We're young. Besides, you need to binge from time to time buddy!



Posted by: Tom_B

thanks luke
lol my problem though is when I say binge, I mean BINGE, I got that from my ED. I'd allow myself one binge a week, where I would eat so much in one sitting that I couldn't even walk, so I'd crawl myself to the bathroom...and well you know
I don't think I'll ever really be allowed to "cheat" and if I do it has to be an all out binge like the one I had on sunday, jeez I must have eaten 6000-7000 calories



Posted by: Tom_B

Training - Chest/Shoulder/Tricep Day

Bench Press *45 lbs* 2x14, 1x15, 1x13
Incline DB Flies * 10lbs* 4x 14
*Military Press *40lbs* 1x14, 3x12
Side raises *5lbs (leave me alone.. )* 2x14, 1x13, 1x12
Dips *Bodyweight* 1x14, 2x12
1 hand tricep extensions - *10lbs* 1x14, 3x12
Abs- Front crunches on my 6 sec ab thing *50lbs* 3x10
Weighted Jacknife sit-ups *15lbs* 3x15

Diet
Meal 1 - Brown rice, pear, whey, fiber 1, unsweetned soy milk
*weights*
Post workout - Thin rolled oats, pear, apple, unsweetned soy milk, whey (will be able to switch this around to what Emma suggested tommorrow )
meal 2 - cottage cheese, almonds
Meal 3 - tuna, coarb counting tortilla wrap, brown rice
meal 4 - almonds, Egg whites, becil canoil oil, fiber 1
Meal 5 - Same as Meal 3
Meal 6 - cottage cheese, almond butter, unsweetned BP

Well the art teacher from hell problem is defiently solved . I think my mom must have threatned her or something (wouldn't surprise me) cause she started talking to me about her weekend and stuff and then she gave me an outline of what was going to be on the test tomorrow that she never gave anyone else . O well I'm not gonna complain. French was.... interesting, I'm now being forced to read about two gay police officers, my friend Megan is into anime/Magnas and stuff and she has this one that she's obessed about called -Fake- which is basically about two gay police officers and them trying to solve crime! whoohoo that's a whole lotta fun sumed up into one , ya right Lunch was "fun" too, espically when this major flamer (that I think has a crush on me, considering the fact that he writes me a note everday ) got extremly pissed because this girl stole the seat next to me so he couldn't sit next to me (thank god!!!). You people have not seen funny untill you've seen a musical junkie, red haired small flamer get mad!! LMAO I thought I was going to die! Then afterwards this chick came over to me and started talking about how she hasn't eaten anything in a week and how she should be hosptilized cause she's crazy and she's cut her wrists 31 times in a night my god I don't even know her name! I was just kinda like...yay okay..eat something bye (even though she looks like she does , and theres no marks at all on her wrists..people)
So that was all fine and dandy, went home and just relaxed felt good. But I forgot all about my homework/tests and it's 9:00pm and I have nothing done, why am I such an idiot, o well it'll be a long night I guess.. (BTW god I love this Smilie mathingy or what ever their called...it's so petite and sad and it's got a whole lot of funny with it!...I have no life at all ) I'm going to be so tired tommorrow...OOOO speaking of tommorrow Smallvilles on! now I'm perked and ready for work , or it could be that the caffine I just had is kicking in, either way it's all good!



Posted by: Luke9583

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
thanks luke
I got that from my ED.
Erectile dysfunction isn't anything to joke about. J/k Tom.



Posted by: Tom_B


I guess I should have seen that one coming!



Posted by: BulkMeUp

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
Well I now offically have my first black eye , when I was doing my ab exercises I thought I'd add a 10lbs weight on top of my 25lbs weight, well being my stupid self I forgot to hold on to the 10lbs weight and forgot it would slip off came up for my crunch and when I came back down WHAM 10lbs weight came down and hit me in the eye, god I'm an idiot. On a die not I could barely walk today which is really sad considering I did legs 2 days ago and I don't even do THAT much compared to everyone else o well.
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OUCH!!
Hope you are feeling better. I always have the fear of dropping weights on myself. I think a bit of fear is good, keeps one more focussed and avoid getting overconfident and making a mistake.
Hope to see some great improvement/comparison soon.



Posted by: Tom_B

Hey BulkMeUp thanks for stopping by! (not to mention thanks for pointing out my location mistakes now not too many people will think I'm a moron)
You should have seen me doing sull crushers, quickly stoped those, a little fear is all right, but doing those scared the living bejebus outta me
lol can't wait to see some improvements too! not to sure if they'll be soon but I should be able to figure out my caloric needs within the next 3 weeks or so, O well no one said this was gonna be a quick journey



Posted by: Tom_B

Training - HIIT Cardio/Pilate Day


Diet
Meal 1 - Brown rice, pear, whey, fiber 1, unsweetned soy milk
*cardio*
Post workout - Thin rolled oats, banana, skim milk, whey, cinnamon
meal 2 - tuna 100% whole wheat pita wrap, fiber 1
Meal 3 - tuna, carb counting tortilla wrap, brown rice
meal 4 - almonds, Egg whites, becil canoil oil
Meal 5 - Same as Meal 3
Meal 6 - cottage cheese, almond butter

Well it's offical the red-haired flamer like me apparently he told some person who told one of my friends who told me. Besides tha nothing else really happened oo in french class I did lock my friend Micheal out of the classroom, that was pretty fun , and then when the stupid copying asshole did the same to me, I came in the class and gave him a damn good slap , not sure if I mentioned I give damn hard slaps, well if I didn't guess what? I give damn hard slaps!
Tomorrows my friends B-day (Megan) she's taking her driver's license test, lucky b*tch , I have to bring her chinese food for her present for luch, that'll be fun carrying chinese food in paper brown bag with some ice packs all morning, god she makes life interesting.
I'm kinda spazing over tomorrow cause I don't have a liquid meal set up yet, I guess one more day of eating breakfast and then getting straight to weights won't hurt... hopefully I can figure something out soon.



Posted by: Tom_B

Never mind about the shake thing, Emma just came up with one! perfect timing too since I was just about to go to bed.



Posted by: BulkMeUp

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
You should have seen me doing sull crushers, quickly stoped those, a little fear is all right, but doing those scared the living bejebus outta me
I dont do skull crushers coz i am likely to crush my skull . I do close-grip pushdowns at the gym.
However, if you want, you could do a skull-crusher like exercise, called lying dumbell extensions. Lie on the bench with db in each hand, palms facing each other and arms extended over head. Bend your elbows and bring the db down towards your shoulders NOT your head . Keep elbows pointed up NOT back or out. Raise and repeat.

But careful. A black eye is not bad at all compared to loosing teeth, breaking your nose or wost of all, loosing an eye!

In addition i do a close grip type of BP with db's. Lie on bench hold db above like you are benching. bring db's together so that they touch sides. lower db's and lower elbows to your sides, NOT flared out. raise and repeat.

I find this type of close grip bench and the close grip pushdowns gives my tri's a good wo.



Posted by: BulkMeUp

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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
Don't worry - we have all done similar things! I have dropped a 44 pound plate (on it's side, so the force was concentrated in a small area) on my big toe before!! Owwwwwwiieeee - That hurt!
OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW, emma! My toe hurts reading that!!



Posted by: Tom_B

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
I dont do skull crushers coz i am likely to crush my skull . I do close-grip pushdowns at the gym.
However, if you want, you could do a skull-crusher like exercise, called lying dumbell extensions. Lie on the bench with db in each hand, palms facing each other and arms extended over head. Bend your elbows and bring the db down towards your shoulders NOT your head . Keep elbows pointed up NOT back or out. Raise and repeat.

But careful. A black eye is not bad at all compared to loosing teeth, breaking your nose or wost of all, loosing an eye!

In addition i do a close grip type of BP with db's. Lie on bench hold db above like you are benching. bring db's together so that they touch sides. lower db's and lower elbows to your sides, NOT flared out. raise and repeat.

I find this type of close grip bench and the close grip pushdowns gives my tri's a good wo.
Thanks for the great ideas!
I've been looking for an exercise to get rid of one hand tricep extensions, I find they don't give me a great workout for my Tris, I guess I coulda tried regular over head extensions using both hands but I'm too damn lazy!
Well I think anyone that does skull curshers is just asking ofr it I mean come on Skull Crushers = Your skull is gonna be crushed! I don't have alot of common sense but that ones a givin



Posted by: Tom_B

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW, emma! My toe hurts reading that!!
that was my reaction too, I much rather have a 10lbs weight hit me in the eye rather than that!



Posted by: Tom_B

Training- Back/Bi Day
Bent over rows *20lbs* 1x14, 3x12
Shrugs *60lbs* 1x14, 3x12
DB pullover *20lbs* 1x14, 3x12
BB curl *40 punds* 1x14, 3x 12
Concentration curls *15 lbs* 1x 14, 3x12
Abs
Side Bends *35lbs* 2x 15 each side
Plate twist *15lbs* 3x15


Diet-
Meal 1 - Oatmeal, unsweetned soy milk, whey
*workout*
Post workout- Skim milk, oatmeal, banana, cinnamon, whey
Meal 2- brown rice, skinless chicken breast, carb counting tortilla wrap
Meal 3 - almonds, egg whites, becil oil, almond butter, pear
Meal 4 - brown rice, tuna, carb counting tortilla wrap, diet pepsi ( )
Meal 5 - cottage cheese, almond butter

Well today I had to carry around a brown paper bag during school, I looked like such a tard , espically since all my clothes were dirty so I had to throw on this weird sweater and this t-shirt that was alot longer than the sweater (don't ask why I didn't just wear the t-shirt, I don't wear t-shirts, haven't worn one in public in 2 years ) maybe that's why people were staring and not so much the fact that I had a paper bag...or myabe it was a combination of both... ....who knows, and who cares!! I'm getting alot better with my social anxiety BOO YA!
Megan got to leave last class early to take her driver's test, lucky b*tch :grmuble: ugh you guys have no idea how jealous I am! if I had my damn driver's license I'd actually be able to workout at a gym! A lovely, lovely gym! But no you have to be 16, stupid rulesw and the people that inforce (enforce ...thank god I use the computer and spell check for english class or I'd be screwed!) them! ....I hope she failed!
I had to work tonight so tired, the restaurant was so busy! Although I did get a free diet pepso outta it! I only allow myself 3 bottles a week (mainly cause I don't feel like spending the extra cash for some, but we'll just say it's becausr I'm extra healthy :shh: )
I got a french test I haven't studied for tomorrow, o well I'll wing it, french isn't that hard , who am I kidding if I go to school tomorrow without studying I'll start spazing and that's not a very pretty sight!...well I guess I'm never a really pretty sight damn people and their perfect genes, I'll stop there, maybe I'll save that rant for another day .
O god!! I just remembered My friend Mike isn't going to school tomorrow, that means I'm gonna have to walk to school alone !! with people and their staring and thinking "HA! he has no friends!! " ....ok maybe I'm not getting over my social anxiety..



Posted by: SlimShady

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
Thanks for the great ideas!
I've been looking for an exercise to get rid of one hand tricep extensions, I find they don't give me a great workout for my Tris, I guess I coulda tried regular over head extensions using both hands but I'm too damn lazy!
Well I think anyone that does skull curshers is just asking ofr it I mean come on Skull Crushers = Your skull is gonna be crushed! I don't have alot of common sense but that ones a givin
Heya Tom. You might want to try some tricep kickbacks. What you do is, you bend over a bench or a table. Put your left hand and left knee on the table. Hold a dumbell in your right hand. Put your right elbow up next to the side of your body. Then bend and straighten your elbow, moving the dumbell from a hanging position, back past your hip. Kinda like what this guy is doing - http://www.netfit.co.uk/tri3.htm Works the triceps pretty good.



Posted by: Tom_B

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Originally Posted by SlimShady
Heya Tom. You might want to try some tricep kickbacks. What you do is, you bend over a bench or a table. Put your left hand and left knee on the table. Hold a dumbell in your right hand. Put your right elbow up next to the side of your body. Then bend and straighten your elbow, moving the dumbell from a hanging position, back past your hip. Kinda like what this guy is doing - http://www.netfit.co.uk/tri3.htm Works the triceps pretty good.
Thanks Slim Yay getting all kinds of great ideas to get rid of those damned 1 hand tricpe extensions! (I find they hurt my elbows, maybe not proper form? , meh still hate em )
This requires changing my routine, and experimenting though...o well time to get off my lazy ass and do something! I'm still thinking if I'm gonna go outside to jog or not, I still got 20 minutes to decide..hmm to go or not to go ..



Posted by: Emma-Leigh

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW, emma! My toe hurts reading that!!
Yes - it hurt! A LOT! It put a quick end to my workout as I sheepishly hobbled (very painfully) away to spend the next few hours icing it!!! LUCKILY nothing was broken, but it did take a good few weeks to recover.



Posted by: Emma-Leigh

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
Training- Back/Bi Day
Bent over rows *20lbs* 1x14, 3x12
Shrugs *60lbs* 1x14, 3x12
DB pullover *20lbs* 1x14, 3x12
BB curl *40 punds* 1x14, 3x 12
Concentration curls *15 lbs* 1x 14, 3x12
Abs
Side Bends *35lbs* 2x 15 each side
Plate twist *15lbs* 3x15
Hmmm... It just struck me - are you doing a 'warm up' set at the same weight as your working sets? If so, consider adding a little weight to your workout sets. These should be a little harder than your warm up and, if you managed 14 reps on the first set you are probably needing to increase the weight slightly on the following sets.

Might also want to do your shrugs after your pull overs - just flows better that way.

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Diet-
Meal 1 - Oatmeal, unsweetned soy milk, whey
*workout*
Post workout- Skim milk, oatmeal, banana, cinnamon, whey
Meal 2- brown rice, skinless chicken breast, carb counting tortilla wrap
Meal 3 - almonds, egg whites, becil oil, almond butter, pear
Meal 4 - brown rice, tuna, carb counting tortilla wrap, diet pepsi ( )
Meal 5 - cottage cheese, almond butter
Looks excellent!! Good to see the milk and banana!! That meal sounds soooo goood

But I have to ask, what is 'becil oil'??

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I'm getting alot better with my social anxiety BOO YA!


The best thing you can do in life is not care what the rest of the world thinks of you... Do what you feel is right for you and make sure you are productive and pro-active in your approach to yourself, your life, your future and your role in society and everything else will fall into place.



Posted by: BulkMeUp

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
Well I think anyone that does skull curshers is just asking ofr it I mean come on Skull Crushers = Your skull is gonna be crushed! I don't have alot of common sense but that ones a givin
I see some guys at my gym doing them. But they are mostly big guys. So i guess they know what they are doing and are more experienced than me.

Another thing is remember to NEVER adjust your grip and/or stance after you have lifted the weights. This has a definate potential to drop the weight on yourself. Once you have lifted the weights over you, DONOT wiggle your fingers or try and adjust yourself. You could injure yourself. If you need to adjust anything, PUT THE WEIGHT DOWN, adjust your grip/stance and then lift again.

I find it is kind of an unconcious thing to adjust an uncomfortable grip which i tend to do sometimes especially when i am not very focussed. But it is not a good idea. So try and avoid doing it always.

I agree with emma, your workout sets should have heavier weights than the warmup set. I understand you might not have the weights presently, but this is something you need to consider.

When you are able to do the predefined number of sets, always try and squeeze and extra rep for each set. When that gets easy, try squeeze another rep for each set. when that gets easier, increase the weights. This way you can push yourself to the next higher weight.

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
I'm still thinking if I'm gonna go outside to jog or not, I still got 20 minutes to decide..hmm to go or not to go
"I AM ON A BULK. I NEED TO HAVE THOSE CALORIES TO GROW!"
Now write that down 200 times on the blackboard!



Posted by: Tom_B

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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
Hmmm... It just struck me - are you doing a 'warm up' set at the same weight as your working sets? If so, consider adding a little weight to your workout sets. These should be a little harder than your warm up and, if you managed 14 reps on the first set you are probably needing to increase the weight slightly on the following sets.

Might also want to do your shrugs after your pull overs - just flows better that way.


Ok sure, lol I was thinking that yesterday that it would be alot easier to do it that way but I'm stupid like that
With my weights I push myself to do the 14 set (sometimes I have to stop at 10 for like 5-7 seconds) then I can barely do the rest of the 12 maybe I could throw in an extra rep or two depending on the type of exercise, does this just mean I'm not resting enough inbetween sets? So stick to my weights I'm ususally using and do 14 reps then increase the weight by say 5 lbs and push out as many reps as posiible? I widh weights were as simple as cardio, I'm always confused .
I know I need to increase some weights on my chest/shoulders I was able to do like 15 reps lol, I did increase my military press by 5 lbs, it was brutal .


Looks excellent!! Good to see the milk and banana!! That meal sounds soooo goood

But I have to ask, what is 'becil oil'??lol it is yummy! !
Becil oil is what I put on the pan to cook my egg whites.
Per 2 TBSP - Calories - 83
Fat - 9.2G (.8 sat)
Portein - 0
Carb - 0
I use it as a EFA.





The best thing you can do in life is not care what the rest of the world thinks of you... Do what you feel is right for you and make sure you are productive and pro-active in your approach to yourself, your life, your future and your role in society and everything else will fall into place.
I try that so much, but I just can't not matter what I do I'm always thinking about what other people are thinking of me, peoples opioions are everything to me...I know it shouldn't be that way but it is, at least for now.



Posted by: Tom_B

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
I see some guys at my gym doing them. But they are mostly big guys. So i guess they know what they are doing and are more experienced than me.

Another thing is remember to NEVER adjust your grip and/or stance after you have lifted the weights. This has a definate potential to drop the weight on yourself. Once you have lifted the weights over you, DONOT wiggle your fingers or try and adjust yourself. You could injure yourself. If you need to adjust anything, PUT THE WEIGHT DOWN, adjust your grip/stance and then lift again.

I find it is kind of an unconcious thing to adjust an uncomfortable grip which i tend to do sometimes especially when i am not very focussed. But it is not a good idea. So try and avoid doing it always.

I agree with emma, your workout sets should have heavier weights than the warmup set. I understand you might not have the weights presently, but this is something you need to consider.

When you are able to do the predefined number of sets, always try and squeeze and extra rep for each set. When that gets easy, try squeeze another rep for each set. when that gets easier, increase the weights. This way you can push yourself to the next higher weight.


"I AM ON A BULK. I NEED TO HAVE THOSE CALORIES TO GROW!"
Now write that down 200 times on the blackboard!
That's exactually what I was doing I would start to adjust my grip during the skull curshers after it was right above me head, maybe that's why it was so freaky O well I still wouldn't do them, I have the worst luck in the world

My cardio was a scheduled session so it's fine ....the big toughy will be tomorrow when I'm suppos to do nothing...I'm not sure how thats gonna go
Me + Rest Days = Bad mix!
I was thinking maybe instead of doing my abs on all my other workdays just move all my ab workouts to my "rest" day, would that give me the same reuslts?



Posted by: Tom_B

Training -
HIIT Cardio/Pilate Day


Diet
Meal 1 - thin roled oats, whey, unsweetned soy milk
*cardio*
Post workout - Thin rolled oats, banana, skim milk, whey, cinnamon
meal 2 - Almonds
Meal 3 - tuna, carb counting tortilla wrap, brown rice
meal 4 - almonds, Egg whites, becil canoil oil, pear
Meal 5 - Same as Meal 3 except swap the tuna with chicken
Meal 6 - cottage cheese, almond butter

Well today I went on my first real outside jog and my god I know why they invented treadmills! The wind felt like it was cutting up my throat eveytime I breathed, and my ears ooo my precious ears hurted so much . Nver again shall there be an outside jog (except there probably will have to be untill I got my elpitical trainer ). I've now added wind to my list of naturable things I hate! (well it was already there due to it always screwing up my hair! Just when you think your having a good hair day WHAM here comes the wind! So now wind is #1 on the list )
Nothing really happened today at school, I do have a B-day party to go to tomorrow, I'm sure I'll look classy bringing my own food and all o well what can ya do? I'm not eating pizza and ice cream!
Also today my English teacher came up to me and started talking to me and how she read that I was all healthy obessed in my journal, that fine and all, but then she goes, were you the one that got sick or your brother? I was like what?.. Then she goes you know was it you or your brother that had to be hospitilized because of your eating disorder last year? (not to metnion she's saying this right in front of the ENTIRE class, I sit right in the front) I was like then she sarted going on about how her daughter had buliema and how she overcame it and wrote it as her speach and won nationals and I was just in disbelief, first off I have no idea how she knows (unless the stupid principal mentioned it to a teacher and then the news started passing form teacher to teacher) not to mention she's saying this in front of the class! Afterwards my friend Erin was like ok wow that was akward and I was like I know! then she said I never told anyone about that, I was like whoa! wait how did you know? Apparently my friends got together and statred to talking about me last year when I was gone, so tons of people know ...I just felt so...betrayed I don't know..at least I know I have one true friend that will always be there for me, that's all I need.

So I went home and just lazed around and watched "Godsend" which was a pretty good movie and "Scooby Doo 2" that was great Sarah Micheele Gellar is by far my favorite actress, I can't wait till "The Grudge" comes out!



Posted by: Emma-Leigh

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
I was thinking maybe instead of doing my abs on all my other workdays just move all my ab workouts to my "rest" day, would that give me the same reuslts?
Tom... Do we have to get out the dictionary and go over what a 'rest' day is!! It means a DAY OF REST!! This means do nadda, zip, ziltch, nothing, zero, aka: enter into complete-slothfullness!!

Ok... So maybe not complete-slothfullness... but it means you do nothing gym related. So go to the movies, do the shopping, wash your clothes, clean your room, bake a cake... but don't do 'planned exercise'!!



Posted by: BulkMeUp

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
But I have to ask, what is 'becil oil'??
lol it is yummy! !
Becil oil is what I put on the pan to cook my egg whites.
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'Becil' is the name of a brand, if i am not mistaken. I think emma was asking about the contents.

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
I was thinking maybe instead of doing my abs on all my other workdays just move all my ab workouts to my "rest" day, would that give me the same reuslts?.
are you ????? 'rest day' as the term signifies it is a day where you DONOT do any strenous physical activity. you are supposed to REST. Watch tv, read a book, go hang out with your friends, take up a hobby, learn a new skill, even catch up on school work if you have to, or simply sleep a bit more (as i love doing )

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_B
Ok sure, lol I was thinking that yesterday that it would be alot easier to do it that way but I'm stupid like that
With my weights I push myself to do the 14 set (sometimes I have to stop at 10 for like 5-7 seconds) then I can barely do the rest of the 12 maybe I could throw in an extra rep or two depending on the type of exercise, does this just mean I'm not resting enough inbetween sets? So stick to my weights I'm ususally using and do 14 reps then increase the weight by say 5 lbs and push out as many reps as posiible? I widh weights were as simple as cardio, I'm always confused
Presently you are trying to put on mass. It is suggested to keep the reps/sets low, unless you are doing HVT vs HIT. So assuming you are doing HIT, keep the reps between 8-10 and do 4 sets per exercise using heavy enough weights. Try and increase the reps as i suggested above. Once you are able to do 12 reps, then increase the weights to a level where you can only do 8reps. Then keep going and try and increase those reps with the higher weight.

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
Nothing really happened today at school, I do have a B-day party to go to tomorrow, I'm sure I'll look classy bringing my own food and all o well what can ya do? I'm not eating pizza and ice cream!
Gwarsh, Tom!! why dont you do this as a cheat meal??!! you DO need cheat meals else you might come to a point where you will get so sick and tired and might relapse into a junk food eating binge leter on. But do remember, moderation is the key.



Posted by: Tom_B

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
'Becil' is the name of a brand, if i am not mistaken. I think emma was asking about the contents.
lol I tried doing the thing where you divide the quotes into sections, so I could answer multiple questions easier, needless to say it didn't work and I screwed up that entire post, I had to go back and edit stuff. Although I'm trying it witht his post, hopefully it'll work


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are you ????? 'rest day' as the term signifies it is a day where you DONOT do any strenous physical activity. you are supposed to REST. Watch tv, read a book, go hang out with your friends, take up a hobby, learn a new skill, even catch up on school work if you have to, or simply sleep a bit more (as i love doing )
I know I'm suppos to have a rest day, but I hate rest days , I feel so bloby and I have no idea what to eat, should I still have whey? where should I have my fruits etc. I'm doing alright so far, I've only gone for a 36 minute walk ahh who am I kiddin I can't do rest days, "rest" to me is going for hour walks :shrugs: I'm obessed with exercise, so I figured it be better to do all my ab workouts in one day insteads of adding another session of cardio in there..

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
Presently you are trying to put on mass. It is suggested to keep the reps/sets low, unless you are doing HVT vs HIT. So assuming you are doing HIT, keep the reps between 8-10 and do 4 sets per exercise using heavy enough weights. Try and increase the reps as i suggested above. Once you are able to do 12 reps, then increase the weights to a level where you can only do 8reps. Then keep going and try and increase those reps with the higher weight.
whats HVT and HIT?
ok I'll do the 8-10 reps thing and always try pushing out more reps, how long should I rest inbetween sets? and should I still have a warm-up set where I can do 14 reps? Still new to the whole weights thing , I wish I never got that damn cable pulley


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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
Gwarsh, Tom!! why dont you do this as a cheat meal??!! you DO need cheat meals else you might come to a point where you will get so sick and tired and might relapse into a junk food eating binge leter on. But do remember, moderation is the key.
That's my problem "moderation" , I know I have a binge problem that is a reult of my ED, when I did my binge last sunday I was plannin gon eat 4000 calories, when I ended up eat 7000 I felt so sick. So I'm still no tat a point wher I can have a "cheat meal" or else I go crazy, besides I like my "clean" food a whole lot more! and if I did the cheat that would mean taking away my cottage cheese and almond butter and nobody better try taking that away form me



Posted by: BulkMeUp

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
lol I tried doing the thing where you divide the quotes into sections, so I could answer multiple questions easier, needless to say it didn't work and I screwed up that entire post, I had to go back and edit stuff. Although I'm trying it witht his post, hopefully it'll work:
Guess you figured that out, sucessfully.


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Originally Posted by Tom_B
I know I'm suppos to have a rest day, but I hate rest days , I feel so bloby and I have no idea what to eat, should I still have whey? where should I have my fruits etc. I'm doing alright so far, I've only gone for a 36 minute walk ahh who am I kiddin I can't do rest days, "rest" to me is going for hour walks :shrugs: I'm obessed with exercise, so I figured it be better to do all my ab workouts in one day insteads of adding another session of cardio in there..:
You are reading too much in to the whole exercise thing. Rest days are not just about physical rest. You also have to relax your mind. Your CNS has to work a lot more during exercise and needs a break. Not giving it a break is one of the reasons that results in a burnout. And you dont want that to happen. So find something relaxing to do. Something that also makes you mentally pleased while doing it. Be it reading a book, painting..etc. Surely there is school work which also need to be done (as much as you might hate it ). Preparing for that can only help you. Better grades = better job = more money! And more money = independence = the ability to get out of one situation into a better one of your choice.

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
whats HVT and HIT?:
HVT = High Volume Training
HIT = High Intensity Training

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
ok I'll do the 8-10 reps thing and always try pushing out more reps, how long should I rest inbetween sets? and should I still have a warm-up set where I can do 14 reps? Still new to the whole weights thing , I wish I never got that damn cable pulley :
Yes. Warm-up sets are required. For your leg day, get on the treadmill (did i hear you scream for joy? ) for about 5 mins only on a low/mod speed. This is just a warm up. Donot do it so intense that you exhaust your muscles and your weight training suffers.

Rest in between sets is a debatable topic. When i started out on a serious training i had to take 3-4 mins or more between sets. I was a skinny guy with not much energy and besides i didnt pay attention to a proper bulk diet. But now i take 1 min between sets and maybe 2 for some. I take 2-3 mins between exercises. In total for HIT try and keep the total training time 45-60 mins. The beneift of HIT is that it is a time saver. Which is what appeals to me as i dont want to live in the gym. There are other things in life to be done, even if it is just sitting on the couch watching tv and scratching my butt!! .

Presently, stick to compound movements. Dont fuss with isolation movements like concentration curls. Read through the training forum threads for some tips on what you should do. But dont try and incorporate every tip every time you see one. Sort out a routine with the equipment you have and stick to it for a few months. So long as you are growing, it is fine.

Believe me, once you get some serious weight training underway, you will enjoy the rest periods and your body will demand it. Else you will be walking around all sore with plenty of aches and pains and you will stop growing. Keep in mind, you donot grow while training, you grow while resting.

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Originally Posted by Tom_B
That's my problem "moderation" , I know I have a binge problem that is a reult of my ED, when I did my binge last sunday I was plannin gon eat 4000 calories, when I ended up eat 7000 I felt so sick. So I'm still no tat a point wher I can have a "cheat meal" or else I go crazy, besides I like my "clean" food a whole lot more! and if I did the cheat that would mean taking away my cottage cheese and almond butter and nobody better try taking that away form me
So how about you schedule your meals in such a way, that you have a good solid meal just beofre going to the party. That will keep you full for ~3 hours. So at the party you will have more control on what you eat. After the party, if you are still a bit hungry. Then have some cottage cheese. Excess cals for just one meal in one day will not really have much of an impact. You are not going to get obese overnight.



Posted by: Tom_B

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
Guess you figured that out, sucessfully.
I'm al classy like that


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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
You are reading too much in to the whole exercise thing. Rest days are not just about physical rest. You also have to relax your mind. Your CNS has to work a lot more during exercise and needs a break. Not giving it a break is one of the reasons that results in a burnout. And you dont want that to happen. So find something relaxing to do. Something that also makes you mentally pleased while doing it. Be it reading a book, painting..etc. Surely there is school work which also need to be done (as much as you might hate it ). Preparing for that can only help you. Better grades = better job = more money! And more money = independence = the ability to get out of one situation into a better one of your choice.
lol ok I'll take a rest day, it was kinda nice yesterday


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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
HVT = High Volume Training
HIT = High Intensity Training


Yes. Warm-up sets are required. For your leg day, get on the treadmill (did i hear you scream for joy? ) for about 5 mins only on a low/mod speed. This is just a warm up. Donot do it so intense that you exhaust your muscles and your weight training suffers.

Rest in between sets is a debatable topic. When i started out on a serious training i had to take 3-4 mins or more between sets. I was a skinny guy with not much energy and besides i didnt pay attention to a proper bulk diet. But now i take 1 min between sets and maybe 2 for some. I take 2-3 mins between exercises. In total for HIT try and keep the total training time 45-60 mins. The beneift of HIT is that it is a time saver. Which is what appeals to me as i dont want to live in the gym. There are other things in life to be done, even if it is just sitting on the couch watching tv and scratching my butt!! .
yes, yes do did hear a scream of joy gotta love cardio!
I'll stick with the weights I'm using now as warm up and then I'll increase the weights by 5-10lbs so I can only do 8 reps, except for Side raises, I've tried 10lbs before (can only do 5lbs), ain't happening lol, I should probably just get another exercise instead of that
I guess I'll just take a est period for as long as it takes me to "recover" , I'll have to play around with that.

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
Presently, stick to compound movements. Dont fuss with isolation movements like concentration curls. Read through the training forum threads for some tips on what you should do. But dont try and incorporate every tip every time you see one. Sort out a routine with the equipment you have and stick to it for a few months. So long as you are growing, it is fine.

Believe me, once you get some serious weight training underway, you will enjoy the rest periods and your body will demand it. Else you will be walking around all sore with plenty of aches and pains and you will stop growing. Keep in mind, you donot grow while training, you grow while resting.
I'll do a search later throughout the week whenever I get a chance, I've been busy as hell lately lol, I might be able to do it today after work o well I'll see
I can't wait till I get my weight training all sorted out hopefully I'll see some real noobie gains one can hope!


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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
So how about you schedule your meals in such a way, that you have a good solid meal just beofre going to the party. That will keep you full for ~3 hours. So at the party you will have more control on what you eat. After the party, if you are still a bit hungry. Then have some cottage cheese. Excess cals for just one meal in one day will not really have much of an impact. You are not going to get obese overnight.
That's the problem I feel I will, besides I just don't like eating junk infront of people.. cause usually if I ever do people stare at me in amazment and it makes me feel...wrong..I don't know how to explain it
My plan was at 8:00pm (when the party started) eat my supper and then at 11:00 eat my cottage cheese, then go home at 12:00 (when the party ended) and go to sleep...needless to say that didn't happen
Well it turns out that they really wanted me to spend the night (cause it was a party/sleepover but some people couldn't stay the night, and since I am a guy and there was only 2 guys at the party and 10 girls I wasn't gonna be allowed to spend the night, but they beged and beged there mom to let me stay so I ended up spending the night with 5 girls) , so I didn't know what to do about having to eat every 3 hours, since I knew we were gonna be staying up late, so I was faced with a dilema, either eat some cake at 1:00am (there was another cake for the sleepover guests) or go longer than 3 hours without food....I choose the non food option , I had no idea what to do! I ended up staying up till 4:00am so I went 5 hours without food, and then after I woke up at 8:30am I didn't eat breakfast untill 10 ish, not to mention I had no idea what to eat for breakfast! but I ended up having an apple,glass of skim milk and some chicken , so my schedules a little messed

P.S. sorry for missing a day in my journal I was ognna ppost after I got home but I didn't go home



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Training - Rest Day (well I did 3 x 15 minute walks, but meh...)



Diet
I kinda forget but it was basically the same old same old just had to space my meals out differently cause of the party, and I rejected all forms of junk food


Well I did nothing all yesterday before the party, I had to work though, and then it got really busy so I had to help cook, and burned my poor pinky finger on the hot gravy . The party was so fun! There was twister and movies and the sexual fantasy room and "foxy Jeff" was in there waiting for me , gotta love inside jokes , that was basically all the party was with a little bit of groping so I won't bore you guys with things you wouldn't understand, all you nned to know is I could have taken that bitch Alex out in Twister if it wasn't for all the people complaining the game was too long so we called a draw , noone could bet my crazy Pilate flexability there



Posted by: Tom_B

Training - Chest/Shoulder/Tricep Day (was playing round with the weights due to some advice)

Bench Press *40 lbs* 1x22 *50lbs* 1x10 *65lbs* 2x8
Incline DB Flies * 10lbs* 1x22 *15lbs* 3x8
*Military Press *40lbs* 1x13, *45lbs* 3x8
Side raises *5lbs* 4x12 (I really need to get another exercise, I tried 10lbs but could only do 1/2 a rep )
Dips *Bodyweight* 4x8
2 hand tricep extensions - *15lbs* 1x19 *25lbs* 1x6 *20lbs* 2x8
Abs- Front crunches on my 6 sec ab thing *50lbs* 3x10
Weighted Jacknife sit-ups *15lbs* 3x15

Diet
Meal 1 - apple, chicken, skim milk
meal 2 - brown rice, whey, fiber 1 , unsweetned soy milk
*workout*
Post workout - banana, thin rolled oats, whey, skim milk
Meal 3 - brown rice, tuna
meal 4 - tuna carb coutning tortilla wrap
Meal 5 - carb counting tortilla wrap, chicken, brwon rice
Meal 6 - almonds, egg whites, becil oil
meal 7 - fiber 1, cottage cheese, almond butter

Thanks to BulkMeUP and Emma-leigh's advice I had a pretty good workout I had no idea I could bench 65lbs (yes thats an acomplishment to me ) I thought I'd kill myself if I tried that much, i'll be happy once I met the 100lbs mark .
My diet was a little bit ....messed.. because where I stayed the night at that party, lol you should have seen me in the kitchen in the morning, everybody was having bagels and cream cheese, i was like people I need protein! So her mom was helping me find something, I was considering having egg whites, but then I relized I'd have to eat 8 of their eggs for enough protein so then she said well we have some protein bars if you want those, I figured there better than nothing, anyways she got htem and I read the label protein bars my ass! it was 4.4G of protein and 7.5G of sugar lol, people and their lack of knowledge. O well I ended up settling with some chicken breast an apple and some skim milk
Because of all this my timing for my diets been screwed to, right now I have to eat 3 more meals spaced at 1.5 hours inbetween each , so stuffed!
Nothing else really happened today except I