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Posted by: dj_diablo54

Is Swimming a good cardio for fat loss, I do Hit cardio 4 days a week but wanted to do something different on the other day's and thought swimming would be a good change. Should I swim or do some other form of cardio.


Posted by: Machher

Swimming is great for Fat loss and muscle building. There is no pressure on the joints and the cool water can be very therepeutic, especially when your body temperature rises. Your being able to control the intensity of the wim you can really optimize a swimming session's capabilities of fat loss.

After years of swimming i had found my back was incredibly strong when i began lifting(since i was constantly doing backstroke as a warmup - 30 laps per swim). Still my back remains to be the strongest part of my body.


Posted by: LAM

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Originally Posted by Machher
Swimming is great for Fat loss and muscle building.
swimming is great for fat loss to a point...there have been many studies done on the body fat percentages of elite sprinters vs swimmers. on average the sprinters where had 3-4% less body fat than the swimmers.

the effects of cold water immersion have a negative effect thermoregulation and lipolysis...


Posted by: Machher

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Originally Posted by LAM
swimming is great for fat loss to a point...there have been many studies done on the body fat percentages of elite sprinters vs swimmers. on average the sprinters where had 3-4% less body fat than the swimmers.

the effects of cold water immersion have a negative effect thermoregulation and lipolysis...
The comparison can not to be made. These types of athletes are of 2 completely different builds. Most olympic swimmers are visibly muscular where as olympic sprinters are generally very skinny. Also running requires mainly only legs during the workout where as swimming is a full body workout no matter what speed stroke; especially butterfly.

What would thermoregulation and liplolysis have to do with muscle hypertrophy?


Posted by: Duncans Donuts

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Is Swimming a good cardio for fat loss

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What would thermoregulation and liplolysis have to do with muscle hypertrophy?
Where was that correlation made

The question initially was regarding fat loss...


Posted by: Machher

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts
Where was that correlation made

The question initially was regarding fat loss...
True, my response was to LAM's, considering that he rebutted my fat loss suggestion during his first portion of his response i assumed he was reubbting the remaining portion of my suggestion (muscle hypetrophy).


Posted by: LAM

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Originally Posted by Machher
The comparison can not to be made. These types of athletes are of 2 completely different builds. Most olympic swimmers are visibly muscular where as olympic sprinters are generally very skinny. Also running requires mainly only legs during the workout where as swimming is a full body workout no matter what speed stroke; especially butterfly.

What would thermoregulation and liplolysis have to do with muscle hypertrophy?
and the comparison has been made there are studies out there...
and what the hell does the "build" of an athlete have to do with the fat burning effects of a specific type of training ? ah..nothing

are you on crack ? what olympic sprinters have you been watching ? most are skinny...yea right, and any muscle hypertrophy observed from swimming is finite as the load can not be progressively increased...


Posted by: Machher

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Originally Posted by LAM
and the comparison has been made there are studies out there...

are you on crack ? what olympic sprinters have you been watching ? most are skinny...yea right, and any muscle hypertrophy observed from swimming is finite as the load can not be progressively increased...
lol true, i had mixed up endurance runners with sprinters .

Though, resistance is progressivley increased as your muscles gain mass, so does the amount of friction since there is a greater surface area. Gains are minimal but progressive.

One who has been swimming for their whole life is clearly more visibly buff than one who has been running their whole life (assuming both of these athletes dont weight train).


Posted by: LAM

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Originally Posted by Machher
Though, resistance is progressivley increased as your muscles gain mass, so does the amount of friction since there is a greater surface area. Gains are minimal but progressive.
lol...this is too funny


Posted by: CowPimp

I think swimming is a great way to lose fat. Although you shouldn't necessarily do it exclusively, for the reasons outlined by LAM, it does have benefits. I think the primary benefit is that there is virtually no impact on one's joints.

Also, if you wanted to increase resistance while swimming, you could wear flippers and hand paddles. Again, the resistance is finite, but it takes you one step further than swimming without those items.


Posted by: Vieope

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Originally Posted by Machher
Though, resistance is progressivley increased as your muscles gain mass, so does the amount of friction since there is a greater surface area. Gains are minimal but progressive.

One who has been swimming for their whole life is clearly more visibly buff than one who has been running their whole life (assuming both of these athletes dont weight train).

That was great
You are in, definitely in for this year IM Darwin Awards.


Posted by: Machher

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Originally Posted by Machher

Though, resistance is progressivley increased as your muscles gain mass, so does the amount of friction since there is a greater surface area. Gains are minimal but progressive.
LOL, you caught me bullshitting through my ass

had to pull out something, i hate being wrong


Posted by: CowPimp

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LOL, you caught me bullshitting through my ass

had to pull out something, i hate being wrong
Read what I said above. There is some level of progressive resistance in swimming.


Posted by: david

I have incorporated swimming when I had problems with my leg/ankle!!!

I think it's great overall and has been very effective. Otherwise, I'd being doing "nil" for exercises!!!


Posted by: Machher

flippers dont increase or decrease resistance. They add more pushing force: properlling you through the water faster.

Different strokes could help you intensify the workout.

Skulling is a great forearm stroke (both feet first or head first)
Only arm front crawl / back crawl and removing legs (or vice versa) etc..


Posted by: plouffe

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Originally Posted by Machher
...olympic sprinters are generally very skinny..
I'd said a majority of olympic sprinters are very muscular.


Posted by: CowPimp

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Originally Posted by Machher
flippers dont increase or decrease resistance. They add more pushing force: properlling you through the water faster.

Different strokes could help you intensify the workout.

Skulling is a great forearm stroke (both feet first or head first)
Only arm front crawl / back crawl and removing legs (or vice versa) etc..
Yes, they do add more resistance. Explain to me how they don't? You have to push more water out of your way to move. Now, you might move faster, but there is still more resistance.



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