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! I don't take them either and never get sick. Our imune systems don't need it so why sweat the petty stuff?
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
There is also a developing coreleation between autism and the mercury levels in flu shots. I would do a bunch of research if I was a woman of child bearing age before taking flu shots.
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Pediatric Bulletin MMR and Autism: Suspect or Superstition? from Infections in Medicine ® Benjamin Estrada, MD Concerns about a possible relationship between autism and measles/mumps/rubella (MMR) vaccine administration were triggered in 1998 by a report that suggested a possible association between the two (Wakefield AJ et al. Lancet. 1998;28:637-641). This report was based on a case series of 12 children who presented with developmental regression associated with diarrhea, abdominal pain, and ileal-lymphoid nodular hyperplasia. These events were temporally related to administration of the MMR vaccine, and it was hypothesized that this product could trigger an intestinal inflammatory response that could be associated with developmental regression in previously normal children. This hypothesis has not been proved, and a causal association between the administration of this vaccine and the development of autism has not been found in recent studies. Taylor and collaborators in the United Kingdom reported one of the first epidemiologic studies on this subject in 1999. These investigators included children born since 1979. Although there was an increase in the number of cases of autism, the authors did not find any difference in age at diagnosis between the vaccinated and unvaccinated subjects. From the data collected in this study, there was no evidence to support a significant temporal association between the administration of MMR vaccine and the development of this disorder. In addition, no evidence of a change in the trend of cases of autism was found after the introduction of MMR into the United Kingdom immunization program in 1988. The lack of association between autism and MMR vaccine administration has also been demonstrated in other studies performed in Finland and Sweden (Taylor B et al. Lancet. 1999;353:2026-2029). |
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Ten doctors retract MMR link to autism - but Andrew Wakefield stands firm LONDON, UK: Ten doctors who co-authored the study which sparked health fears over the combined MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) jab have said there was insufficient evidence to draw that conclusion. The study, published in The Lancet in 1998, never proved a link between MMR and autism. However, its findings triggered widespread public concern, and a drop in vaccination rates. The doctors issued a public retraction on March 3. However, it was not signed by two of the co-authors. The main thrust of the paper was the discovery of unexpected intestinal problems in children who had autism. The doctors say that "much uncertainty" remains about the nature of these changes, and stress it is important that further research continues. But they admit that they had not had enough evidence to link the problems to the triple jab - and had under-estimated the storm it would cause. In a statement, to be published in The Lancet, the doctors say: "We wish to make it clear that, in this paper, no causal link was established between MMR vaccine and autism as the data were insufficient.....{snip}........... We wish to make it clear that, in this paper, no causal link was established between (the) vaccine and autism, as the data were insufficient. However, the possibility of such a link was raised," the scientists said in the retraction. "Consequent events have had major implications for public health. In view of this, we consider now is the appropriate time that we should together formally retract the interpretation placed on these findings in the paper."....{snip} The Wakefield study, which was conducted on 12 children, was done about eight years after the children had been vaccinated and involved parents remembering whether the autism symptoms occurred around the same time as the vaccination. ...{snip} Dr Wakefield and Dr Harvey could not be reached immediately for comment. Wakefield has maintained that the suggestion of a link between the vaccine and autism is valid, despite the findings of authoritative groups such as the World Health Organisation and the US Institute of Medicine. |
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Originally Posted by bandaidwoman
Ocean dude, you talk about the cost of medical care and forget the flu vaccine is preventative medicine, not salvage medicine and saves you and me medical costs...
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| By the way, in my opinion the practice of hospitalizing the elderly for every little ailment is more a social responsibility and ethics issue than it is a medical one since families don’t have time or the desire to take care of them at home |
| I still maintain that this country is becoming predisposed toward hypochondriacal behavior and obsessed with the need to “be taken care of”. I think most of the predisposition to seek medical relief for every minor thing is societally unhealthy and more a marker that we as a nation have become conditioned to think we can not get by in life without a huge medical community attending to our every little ache and pain. People need to remember that humans are mortal and sickness is a natural condition integral to certain phases of life and appears to be a necessary and essential element of the life process and the evolution of the species. |
Like they are really going to help. By the time a biological agent was released, you would be dead before you could put on the mask. You would have to be wearing a mask 24 hours a day

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