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1-AD/4-AD cycle again, look this over please.

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Posted by: Tran

I was going to do a m1t/4-ad stack but then after reading your posts and doing some research I think the m1t is a little to severe for me. I was also going to give the s1+ a try but I dont want to deal with the spray and all the mess that goes with that. So that leaves me to yet another 1-ad cycle.

Being that I have used 1-ad before (and got nice gains) I want to push it a little. Whats the max dosage I can use of 1-ad/4-ad without overkill or going overboard? I will be using 6-oxo for my pct.

If you guys could, can you break it down for me into a 4-6 week cycle using the 1-ad/4-ad and 6-oxo pct?

Thanks guys.

ps. opinions/comments are welcome, but I would like to place an order by tonight, tomorrow at the latest


Posted by: redspy

The sticky offers some good info:-


Quote:
1AD

1AD is by far the most popular prohormone. It is considered to be the most effective taken orally, and has resounding user feedback. It is best stacked with 4AD to reduce side effects, the most common of which include lethargy and reduced libido. 1AD should not be used transdermally, and could be used sublingually, although there are few products with this delivery system used. 1AD is commonly stacked with 4AD and shouldn’t be stacked with nordiol, or the DHT precursors.

4-6 week cycles are best taken at anywhere from 300-900mg daily. Take in divided doses throughout the day to keep blood levels elevated.


4AD

4AD is the next best. It is almost always used with other hormones due also to its resounding user feedback and adding large amounts of mass from increases in testosterone and estrogen. 4AD can be taken orally, transdermally, or sublingually.
2-6 week cycles are generally used. 4AD can be stacked with just about anything.

Oral:
300-1500mg daily. Oral is probably the worst way to take this, but if you are simply looking to reduce sides of 1AD, etc – it works. Take in divided doses to ensure elevated blood levels.



Posted by: Tran

ewww thats a pretty big range. Lets put it this way, I have taken 2 cycles before, I havent taken anything in a year now. At my peak I was 205 at 9.9% BF, I am now about 185 much leaner. What do you recommend and how should I space it out?


Thanks


Posted by: redspy

Personally I'd start at 600mg of 1AD and progress to about 800mg. You're much better off using a transdermal 4-AD but if you insist on oral delivery I'd do at least 1000mg in divided doses.

Androdiol 300 Select is 4-AD. It's much cheaper to buy bulk powder if you have the time to cap it. Custom sells it for 85c/gram.


Posted by: Tran

Thanks for the info...

Should I make this a 4 week or 6 week cycle? I prob won't go over 600mg of the 1-ad the most I have ever done was 400mg.

Thanks again

edit: How should a spread even 600mg of 1-ad out per day??


Posted by: redspy

Go for 6 weeks, both 4-AD and Nordiol take 2-3 weeks to really kick in.

Given the poor bioavailability of 4-AD I don't think you'll get much from 600mg - JMO. Good luck.


Posted by: Pirate!

How much 1-AD did you do daily last time? I'd add 100mg to that and take 1 gram of 4-AD spread thoughout the day (at least two doses).


Posted by: Tran

Quote:
Originally Posted by redspy
Go for 6 weeks, both 4-AD and Nordiol take 2-3 weeks to really kick in.

Given the poor bioavailability of 4-AD I don't think you'll get much from 600mg - JMO. Good luck.
whoa is nordiol 1-ad??? I just got confused??


PirateFromHell:

My last stack I took 300mg and bumped it to 400mg the last week.

So if I take 600mg of 1-ad how should I split it up and how much/when should I take the 4-ad???

ps. I did not take 4-ad with my last 1-ad cycle


Posted by: Pirate!

Split it up into three doses a day: 200 mg 1-AD/ 333 mg 4-AD.


Posted by: Tran

Quote:
Originally Posted by PirateFromHell
Split it up into three doses a day: 200 mg 1-AD/ 333 mg 4-AD.
Thank you Sir.




Posted by: Pirate!

Just doing my job.


Posted by: redspy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tran
whoa is nordiol 1-ad??? I just got confused??
Sorry, I wasn't thinking while posting.


Posted by: Tran

Thanks guys, I placed my order and should be getting started here in a couple of days!

One more quick question (I did a search but there are so many 1-ad threads open) I will be dividing my dosages of the 1-ad and 4-ad into 3 times a day. When and with what type of food is the best time to take the dosages (ie: before gym, after gym, before bed, etc..)?

Thanks again!


Posted by: Pirate!

Just spread the 1-AD into three even doses with meals. Only use the 4-AD twice a day, and try to stay dry (no sweat or shower) for at least 3 hours--preferably 5--after application.


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