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What did you think of the T.O and Nicolette Sheridan skit on MNF?

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Posted by: Egoatdoor

It completely caught me off guard. I'm not familiar with the show Desparate Housewives and I thought the skit was a commercial. But then it went on and on and on. Then she ripped of her towel and jumped into T.O's arms.

After it was over, my first thought was "Is ABC crazy???". After what happened at the Super Bowl and the fine that was levied on the network showing the game, I could not believe that ABC would do something like that. And there was no doubt, she was buck naked when she jumped on T.O.

Apparently the phones lit up at ABC with viewers complaining and ABC and the NFL have apologized. The main issue from the callers seems to be that parents had tuned into the game with their kids sitting also in front of the TV set and there was no warning that a strip scene was about to happen. I know I was totally surprised.

If you exclude the inappropriateness of showing that on network TV in prime time hours, or if it had been shown instead as a skit on later night cable, say as a promo for the game and the show, then I would have thought "that was funny!!".

What do all of you think about it?



Posted by: Archangel

It just shows where the morals of society have gone,unfortunately most people think of it as no big deal!!!



Posted by: oaktownboy

it wasnt even her..i heard on tv sum otherwoman did the strippin and they just showed nicolette's face thats all...lol at To's face when she stripped



Posted by: cappo5150

who gives a sh1t, people are so uptight these days. Were not living in the 50's anymore.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

9pm is not primetime. Your children should be in bed, it's a school night. The rules for primetime end at 9pm.

Worry about your kids being obese, not seeing a tit.



Posted by: musclepump

didn't offend me.



Posted by: Egoatdoor

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
9pm is not primetime. Your children should be in bed, it's a school night. The rules for primetime end at 9pm.
One of my co workers said the same thing( her son is in bed at 8), but it was 6 o'clock in the west.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

People who were offended by that are stupid and should be executed.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

Quote:
Originally Posted by Egoatdoor
One of my co workers said the same thing( her son is in bed at 8), but it was 6 o'clock in the west.

Excellent point, never thought of that. Regardless, it is no worse than what happens in the soaps.

I personally saw no point from the ad, they knew they were gonna get complaints, IMO it wasn't worth airing it, although I bet Desparate housewives gets more viewers from it.



Posted by: tucker01

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
although I bet Desparate housewives gets more viewers from it.
Exactly!! Commercial was well received then



Posted by: allpro

i haven't seen it...anyone have a link?



Posted by: MaxMirkin

Who gives a shit?



Posted by: Archangel

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
People who were offended by that are stupid and should be executed.
Sorry, but that has to be the dumbest reply I have read in a while. While it did not offend me, my wife didn't like it. So should I whip out my Glock and pop her off?



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Sorry, but that has to be the dumbest reply I have read in a while. While it did not offend me, my wife didn't like it. So should I whip out my Glock and pop her off?
C'mon, man. My post is not meant to be taken literally.



Posted by: MaxMirkin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Sorry, but that has to be the dumbest reply I have read in a while. While it did not offend me, my wife didn't like it. So should I whip out my Glock and pop her off?
Why not?



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally Posted by cappo5150
who gives a sh1t, people are so uptight these days. Were not living in the 50's anymore.
EXACLTLY!!!!
my god. if it's not one thing, its another. it seems like alls people do nowadays is COMPLAIN about EVERYTHING.

Someone steps on an ant and the National Coalition Against Violence of Small Insects steps in and demands reprecussions. However, they are forced to wait in line at the courtroom b/c there's already people protesting from the Quiet Snow Shoveling Council and others from the National Foundation Opposing Discrimination Against Gay or Lesbian, South African, Left-Handed, Blue-eyed Sagittarius's.

(you get the point)



Posted by: I Are Baboon

There are so many "worse" things on TV. The skimpy cheerleader outfits with CIALIS ads all around them, the Herbal Essence commercials, the Sex and the City commercials, pretty much ANYTHING on reality TV, etc etc etc. The ABC skit showed nothing graphic, used no foul language, and there was no nudity. It was simple cross-promotion, which happens ALL THE TIME when sporting events are on TV.

Ad Tony Dungy is OFF HIS ROCKER with his racism comments.



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
Ad Tony Dungy is OFF HIS ROCKER with his racism comments.
RIGHT!!!!!!!
WTF???

EVERYone needs SOMETHING to complain about

People SUCK sometimes



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Sorry, but that has to be the dumbest reply I have read in a while. While it did not offend me, my wife didn't like it. So should I whip out my Glock and pop her off?
No you absolutely should in no-way pop a cap in your wife. Hire Flex ... he'll do it for $50. He needs the cash for all those roids he's on ...

ABC was within the rules, but still a little risque. Slam 'em? No fucking way. Daytime soaps have been worser and stupider for longerer. Just no comparison to Janet's tit shot ... that was a tit on network TV when not expected by mom or dad. We had no time to cover the eyes of our tender little children. Put that tit on HBO ... in slow mo.



Posted by: SPIKE1257

I wanna see more naked women on T.V... I just can't seem to get enough, call me crazy.



Posted by: SPIKE1257

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
No you absolutely should in no-way pop a cap in your wife. Hire Flex ... he'll do it for $50. He needs the cash for all those roids he's on ...

ABC was within the rules, but still a little risque. Slam 'em? No fucking way. Daytime soaps have been worser and stupider for longerer. Just no comparison to Janet's tit shot ... that was a tit on network TV when not expected by mom or dad. We had no time to cover the eyes of our tender little children. Put that tit on HBO ... in slow mo.
The Spanish soaps are awesome, I don't understand a word, but the women are hot and wearing short skirts and belly shirts.



Posted by: Flex

[QUOTE=BoneCrusher]No you absolutely should in no-way pop a cap in your wife. Hire Flex ... he'll do it for $50. He needs the cash for all those roids he's on ... [QUOTE]

With inflations it's up to $52, sorry boys.

Don't people realize there's SO much WORSE shit going on in the world????

War. Hunger. Disease. Poverty. Illiteracy. etc. etc. etc.

Here's an idea people DON'T BE SO FUCKING UPTIGHT. Life is TOO short too worry about petty shit



Posted by: gr81

everyone and anyone who was offended at this just please swallow a bullet b/c we are all so GOD DAMM sicc of your uptight agenda for this ocuntry, just SHUT THE F UP WILL YOU PLEASE!! why is it that when people complain or write letters thta we listen, just b/c soeoen complains we are supposed to immediately jump at what they sya, these people are lunatics. IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT DON"T WATCH, its that simple. Wen need to stop being held hostage by these nutjobs that wanna have us operate at their retarded set of values. What about the normal people that aren't right wing idiots or left wing pussies, huh? what about the normal people out there that just want to live day to day and operate on the basis that we do things that make sense, what are we supposed to do, are we to always sit here and listen to teh constant nonsense and complaining.. can we not just live a normal life. jesus christ. Pick your fights. you A holes are the reason this country is going to hell, just shut up and can we please ignore these retards. thank you



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally Posted by gr81
everyone and anyone who was offended at this just please swallow a bullet b/c we are all so GOD DAMM sicc of your uptight agenda for this ocuntry, just SHUT THE F UP WILL YOU PLEASE!! why is it that when people complain or write letters thta we listen, just b/c soeoen complains we are supposed to immediately jump at what they sya, these people are lunatics. IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT DON"T WATCH, its that simple. Wen need to stop being held hostage by these nutjobs that wanna have us operate at their retarded set of values. What about the normal people that aren't right wing idiots or left wing pussies, huh? what about the normal people out there that just want to live day to day and operate on the basis that we do things that make sense, what are we supposed to do, are we to always sit here and listen to teh constant nonsense and complaining.. can we not just live a normal life. jesus christ. Pick your fights. you A holes are the reason this country is going to hell, just shut up and can we please ignore these retards. thank you




Posted by: gr81

seriously man, someone tell me why we aren't treatin these jackoffs like what they are, lunatics! Why are we held hostage by what they thikn, why isn't what the majority of peoples views as important. This commercial wasn't revealing at all and was much tamer than most of the crap on tv. oh and btw retards, please tellme what tha worst thing that could come out of that situation, plese take me down that slippery slope. An 8 yr old sees a women in a towel and 5 yrs later he's in prison for rape, is taht it.. really?! just shut up



Posted by: Archangel

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
C'mon, man. My post is not meant to be taken literally.
Sorry, I'm just tired of all this crap about this is wrong, this is right, what the hell happened to " Use your own judgement"? Like I said, I didn't find it offensive, some people do, that doesn't make me right, and them wrong. We all have an opinion. BUT, I am tired of people (in general) telling me whats right and whats wrong, leave me alone and let me decide. Sorry for ranting and I apologize for my comments Baboon!!!



Posted by: Archangel

[QUOTE=BoneCrusher]No you absolutely should in no-way pop a cap in your wife. Hire Flex ... he'll do it for $50. He needs the cash for all those roids he's on ...

no thanks, think I'll keep her around!!!



Posted by: Archangel

[QUOTE=Flex][QUOTE=BoneCrusher]No you absolutely should in no-way pop a cap in your wife. Hire Flex ... he'll do it for $50. He needs the cash for all those roids he's on ...
Quote:

With inflations it's up to $52, sorry boys.

Don't people realize there's SO much WORSE shit going on in the world????

War. Hunger. Disease. Poverty. Illiteracy. etc. etc. etc.

Here's an idea people DON'T BE SO FUCKING UPTIGHT. Life is TOO short too worry about petty shit
only $52, tempting but no thanks!!!
Amen to you, life is way to short, enjoy it the way YOU want!!!



Posted by: BoneCrusher

[QUOTE=Flex][QUOTE=BoneCrusher]No you absolutely should in no-way pop a cap in your wife. Hire Flex ... he'll do it for $50. He needs the cash for all those roids he's on ...
Quote:

With inflations it's up to $52, sorry boys.
Sorry man but the $2 more is too much. You know we have a steady stream of wetbacks here in Texas that will do your job for half that wage.

On a side note ... in 1998 there were 993 co's fined for useing illegal workers ... in 2001 there were 13! This is according to a Time mag article.



Posted by: musclepump

I thought it was great.



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
Sorry man but the $2 more is too much. You know we have a steady stream of wetbacks here in Texas that will do your job for half that wage.
Ya, but they don't include burial like i do



Posted by: Dale Mabry

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flex
Ya, but they don't include burial like i do

"Ashcroft Loses Job To Mexican" -The Onion



Posted by: DFINEST

I thought the skit was and I saw nothing
offensive about it....

babysitters and nanny's watch more risque stuff on daytime soaps
than this skit has shown....

If that skit was offensive, I guess you'd be complaining
about MALE cheerleaders who have their hand up the short skirts
of female cheerleaders during MARCH MADNESS & NCAA FOOTBALL
(of course this is done while the female
is supported for a cheerleading move)
"Daddy, why is his hand up her skirt?"

There was no nudity, DH is aired at the same time
as MNF, people need to raise their own darn children and not
leave it to TV.



Posted by: Egoatdoor

Quote:
Originally Posted by DFINEST

There was no nudity
How do you define nudity? She had no clothes on. The only thing missing from the shot was full frontal.

And oh, what an ass that woman has! I wouldn't kick her out of bed.



Posted by: pool_shark

I didn't see the skit, so I don't know how much they showed, I can't imagine it was much at all.
But there are a lot worse things on TV anyway and have been for decades.

I'm wondering, just as many other people are, just how much of the complaints have to do with race.

Someone in the NFL made the comment, "if the skit had featured Vinnie Testaverde instead of Terrell Owens, there wouldn't be a problem." No it wasn't T.O.
You all can't tell me that you don't notice that in TV and the movies (not real life), that there are more black female/white male relationships than black male/white female.

In my opinion, a large portion of society still doesn't like to see that, and to see it starring football's current "bad boy" just set a bunch of closed minded individuals off.

I don't recall the lesbian kiss between two white women on LA Law years ago making such an impact.



Posted by: Egoatdoor

Quote:
Originally Posted by pool_shark

I'm wondering, just as many other people are, just how much of the complaints have to do with race.

Someone in the NFL made the comment, "if the skit had featured Vinnie Testaverde instead of Terrell Owens, there wouldn't be a problem." No it was T.O.
You all can't tell me that you don't notice that in TV and the movies (not real life), that there are more black female/white male relationships than black male/white female.
I obviously did not know what the "punch line" was going to be ( her dropping the towel), but as the skit went on, I was thinking that ABC was breaking some new ground here with bringing this black man/white woman seduction thing on national television before a large audience. I did not have any "problems" with that, I thought it a great step forward. My shock more had to do with the dropping of the towel, the full rear nudity and then her jumping into his arms with no warning and that this was being seen by children and their now shocked parents who had no idea or advanc warning that this was going to happen, coming on the heels of what the FCC did to CBS after the Super Bowl nudity incident.

I really don't think race had as much, if anything, to do with the controversy or that it was Terrell Owens ( I think the same uproar would have occurred if the guy was Vinny T or even Tiger Woods) and from what I have read, ABC seems to be saying the complaints had to do with the nudity. I could be wrong and others are free to chime in with their opinions.

And I really don't think it is close minded for a parent who has had this happen to them to be upset or for someone like me who does not have children to still think it was inappropriate to spring that kind of thing on broadcast television without any warning. People who watch cable movies or shows where more risque stuff is shown and it is known what is there or who are watching later shows on broadcast TV and again knowing that more fringe behavior may be seen know what they are getting into. Someone tuning in to watch Monday night football does not ever expect (until now) that something like that will occur.



Posted by: maniclion

More Tits & Ass less Blood & Guts or at least a fair balance between the 2. If a hot chick gets blown away at least give her a nude scene prior to it. If Tony the Thug has to get whacked at least make in in the Topless Bar so those who are squeemish to blood can divert their eyes to the rack on the dancer bouncing around all freaked out.



Posted by: pool_shark

Quote:
Originally Posted by Egoatdoor
I obviously did not know what the "punch line" was going to be ( her dropping the towel), but as the skit went on, I was thinking that ABC was breaking some new ground here with bringing this black man/white woman seduction thing on national television before a large audience. I did not have any "problems" with that, I thought it a great step forward. My shock more had to do with the dropping of the towel, the full rear nudity and then her jumping into his arms with no warning and that this was being seen by children and their now shocked parents who had no idea or advanc warning that this was going to happen, coming on the heels of what the FCC did to CBS after the Super Bowl nudity incident.

I really don't think race had as much, if anything, to do with the controversy or that it was Terrell Owens ( I think the same uproar would have occurred if the guy was Vinny T or even Tiger Woods) and from what I have read, ABC seems to be saying the complaints had to do with the nudity. I could be wrong and others are free to chime in with their opinions.

And I really don't think it is close minded for a parent who has had this happen to them to be upset or for someone like me who does not have children to still think it was inappropriate to spring that kind of thing on broadcast television without any warning. People who watch cable movies or shows where more risque stuff is shown and it is known what is there or who are watching later shows on broadcast TV and again knowing that more fringe behavior may be seen know what they are getting into. Someone tuning in to watch Monday night football does not ever expect (until now) that something like that will occur.
Nudity happens on NYPD blue as well as foul language, yet it was one of the most popular shows on TV, talked about a lot, yes, but nowhere near the controversy as that skit.

20 Years ago there was a made for TV movie called Lipstick, that showed a partially nude woman (possibly with another woman, I don't remember), it did not have the controversy that the skit is getting today.
It didn't receive this type of media attention 20 years ago, so yes, I feel it is closed minded individuals of today.

As others have mention, daytime soaps, and the night time soaps of old (dallas, dynasty), had lots of unexpected material, but not the controversy as that skit.

So many hypocrites (not saying you are one of them) but so many are complaining about what their kids see and hear on TV, then they go home, get drunk, high, beat the crap out of each other, scream, and curse each other out, right in front of their kids, but God forbid they see a partial breast or nude butt on TV.



Posted by: DFINEST

Quote:
Originally Posted by Egoatdoor
How do you define nudity? She had no clothes on. The only thing missing from the shot was full frontal.

And oh, what an ass that woman has! I wouldn't kick her out of bed.
Oh, excuse me, all of a sudden, full naked rears are
obscene and indecent for television now....

This isn't the first time full rear nudity hasn't been shown on TV
but all of a sudden, it's wrong now; hypocrites PLEASE

Again, this is televised on daytime soaps ALL the time
as well as many other prime time TV shows (NYPD BLUE, ER,..);
there was nothing obscene about that skit.



Posted by: ZECH

Quote:
Originally Posted by gr81
everyone and anyone who was offended at this just please swallow a bullet b/c we are all so GOD DAMM sicc of your uptight agenda for this ocuntry, just SHUT THE F UP WILL YOU PLEASE!! why is it that when people complain or write letters thta we listen, just b/c soeoen complains we are supposed to immediately jump at what they sya, these people are lunatics. IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT DON"T WATCH, its that simple. Wen need to stop being held hostage by these nutjobs that wanna have us operate at their retarded set of values. What about the normal people that aren't right wing idiots or left wing pussies, huh? what about the normal people out there that just want to live day to day and operate on the basis that we do things that make sense, what are we supposed to do, are we to always sit here and listen to teh constant nonsense and complaining.. can we not just live a normal life. jesus christ. Pick your fights. you A holes are the reason this country is going to hell, just shut up and can we please ignore these retards. thank you
While I agree with you on this one, as the election just showed, more than half the country feels different. The majority right now thinks it is offensive.
So you thinking you are being forced to listen to this way of thinking, all conservatives feel exactly opposite, that your way of thinking is whacked.



Posted by: DFINEST

Quote:
Originally Posted by dg806
...The majority right now thinks it is offensive....
Yeah, right; the same majority that think it's offensive,
they are litterred with individuals who compliment the woman's A$$
and wouldn't kick her out of bed....

I don't know about you but I don't compliment something
that I think is offensive

I guess babysitters better beware because they are watching
scenes such as this, on DAYTIME tv, WHILE they're babysitting your kids

I remember when Kim Delaney and Jimmy Smits did a FULL body
nude scene on NYPD Blue and nothing was said
( the scene showed a side view, fully lighted mind you, of
her FULL NAKED body laying on top of his FULL NAKED body,
the scene showed a FULL head to toe shot)

Parents that I know put their kids to bed by 9pm and I'm
pretty certain that on the west coast, at 6pm, kids were eating
dinner or cleaning off the table and both were done in a feverish
manner so that they can go back and play with other kids on the
computer, x-box, or outside playing

Again I say, don't watch the cheerleading moves on the
college hoops or football games when the male has his
hand up the females skirt for support

People should raise their kids and not let tv raise them,
when your child ask you a ?, answer your child truthfully



Posted by: sweatshopchamp

The whole thing was not only imoral but it was STUPID AND CORNY. Where does ABC get these stupid skits. If this is what it takes to sell football then football needs help.



Posted by: oaktownboy

man this wasnt offensive at all..dont like seein women naked? are u a homosexual or sumthin..whats the big fuckin deal?



Posted by: min0 lee

I really couldn't care less, I like porn. I don't think kids should be exposed to it though.
I live on the east coast so my kids were in bed.



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