Originally Posted by Fitgirl70

Why is that?

Originally Posted by musclepump

Rule of thumb: Ignore everything from MuscleTech.

Originally Posted by Fitgirl70

I think they have a lot of loyal fans out there. I think they also have lots of money and can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on 6-page ad/reports in any mag they choose. I don't necessarily like the fact that they waste 3 whole spreads just telling people that they have a new product.

Originally Posted by musclepump

From what I hear, few of the athletes they sponsor actually use their products. That's just heresay of course, but it's possible. I've never been impressed with any MuscleTech product.

Originally Posted by Fitgirl70

I think they have a lot of loyal fans out there.

Originally Posted by cfs3

To help put it into perspective, even Charles Mansen had fans.

Originally Posted by young d

muscletech products are overpriced (due to their ridiculous OTT marketing campaigns and half a dozen 3 page ads featuring aggressive looking roid monsters in every muscle magazine), yes some of their products might be alright but in reality there are much better alternatives at much lower prices, so why buy muscletech when you can save money and buy something that will yield much better results? fact is the well informed on supps. know to stay away from them, hence musclepumps rule of

Originally Posted by Egoatdoor

There are no substitutes out there for it now that I am aware of. I am curious to hear what others have to say who have tried it, but this thread has turned into a bash Muscle Tech thread.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

There are no substitutes for it because no other companies make such ridiculous claims. It's impossible to turn fat into muscle. Save your money

Originally Posted by Egoatdoor

I am smart enough to make my own decisions, so don't you dare tell me how to spend my money.

As I said in my earlier posts, I've used some of their products. Yes, they are very expensive. But the ones I've tried so far have worked.

In October 2001, I started using Cell Tech for the first time after two years of using straight creatine. In the initial two month cycle, I gained 8 pounds, 6 of which were pure muscle, after being stuck at the same weight for six months before that. There were NO other substantive changes in any of my other variables, including caloric intake. My poundages and muscular endurance also increased. This was all due to the Cell Tech.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

I was simply saying that thermogain claims to convert fat into muscle,

Originally Posted by Egoatdoor

. I did find a cheaper whey protein that was as good and I use the home made Cell Tech recipe from the link someone else posted now instead of Cell Tech.

Originally Posted by Egoatdoor

so don't you dare tell me how to spend my money.