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Originally Posted by ALBOB
Muhammad would justfloat around the ring pecking away until there was nothing left of Tyson.
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Originally Posted by ALBOB
Muhammad would justfloat around the ring pecking away until there was nothing left of Tyson.
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Originally Posted by Gadsta
I chose Joe Louis,
I always used to say Ali out of habit but having watched and studied loads of old fights, i could see Louis being too hot for Ali to handle. Ali couldn't block a left jab, yes he could move out of the way but never did he face someone with a left jab like Louis....it was a knockout left jab if you can believe that! That's why Ali had trouble with Norton, because of his extremely good jab. A close battle but my money would be on Louis. Joe Louis - The best combinations boxer ever! |
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Originally Posted by ALBOB
I'd definitely give Iron Mike the strength nod, but I don't think he'd land a punch on Ali. Muhammad would justfloat around the ring pecking away until there was nothing left of Tyson.
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
Lennox showed that a large man with boxing skills would dominate Tyson. Add that tyson was a punk that mugged old women in elevators and he gets disqualified from mention.
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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
If you were to put all of them into a boxing tournament at their prime, Ali all the way. The only one that I would hesitate to say he would beat would be Tyson, but once it got past the first 3 rounds Ali would dominate the fight. Iron Mike just never had the heart.
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Originally Posted by Flex
that was WAAAAAAAAAY outta Tyson's prime.
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Originally Posted by jack52
#1Ali #2 Frazier- Marciano and Louis fought a bunch of little guys.Tyson had strength -no polish. By the way Louis whupped Schmelling in New York.
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Originally Posted by Flex
Tyson woulda knocked the guy out in less than 2.
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Originally Posted by shutupntra1n
I always liked Lennox Lewis's accent and he's a hottie so I voted for him. Not the best fighter by far but I like him anyway
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
That was at the end of Lennox's reign ... add in that Tyson ran from Lewis and actually refused to fight him causing the loss of one of Tyson's belts. He did not give that belt up willingly it was stripped from Tyson. Lewis is now 39 years old while Tyson is 36 years old. Sorry Flex but nothing in the records or Tyson's history contributes your assumption.
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Originally Posted by Flex
First of all, this whole thread is based on pure opinion, or assumption, as you call it.
Secondly, like i said, WHEN THEY FOUGHT, Tyson was WAY outta his prime. Tyson has been washed up for practically a decade now. The beginning of the end was Holyfield I, where he showed his true side. I'm talking about a 21 year old Tyson. IMO he would've killed that big British pussy. |
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Originally Posted by cman
Tyson is good, but he's about as smart as a bag of door knob's.
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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
So true, this is what I based my opinionon. If Ali wasn't the master strategist that he was I would pick Tyson in a second.
Oh, and there is no way Lennox Lewis would have beaten Tyson in his prime. A 21 year old Tyson would have floored Lewis by the second round. Tyson was an animal back then. |
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Originally Posted by Flex
First of all, this whole thread is based on pure opinion, or assumption, as you call it.
Secondly, like i said, WHEN THEY FOUGHT, Tyson was WAY outta his prime. Tyson has been washed up for practically a decade now. The beginning of the end was Holyfield I, where he showed his true side. I'm talking about a 21 year old Tyson. IMO he would've killed that big British pussy. |
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Originally Posted by Dale Is Wrong Here
Oh, and there is no way Lennox Lewis would have beaten Tyson in his prime. A 21 year old Tyson would have floored Lewis by the second round. Tyson was an animal back then.
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Originally Posted by By Dan Rafael, USA TODAY
Although they got along well, Lewis got a glimpse of Tyson's rage in the opening moments of their first sparring session, when Tyson gave him a bloody nose.
"The bell rang and all of a sudden, Tyson just turned into an animal," Boehm told the paper. "Mike came charging across the ring like a raging tiger, like a man possessed." When that first session was over, Lewis and Tyson were back hanging out together. But as they boxed more rounds, Lewis began to assert himself. And, as Boehm recalled, "By the end of the fourth or fifth session, Lennox was taunting Mike. Lennox was laughing at him, playing with him. "Mike said, 'Come on, come on, hit me you son of a bitch.' And Cus said, 'That's enough, Mike,' and it stopped right there." |
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
It would have been a 21 year old Tyson against a 24 year old Lewis. I wish they had fought then because we would have been resqued from the Tyson era as Lewis would have knocked his punk ass out then too. The only differance would be that Holyfield would still have all of his ears left ... better to listen to the sound of Tyson hitting the canvas
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
I wish they had fought then because we would have been resqued from the Tyson era as Lewis would have knocked his punk ass out then too.
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Originally Posted by Flex
I don't think so, man.
@ age 21, Iron Mike was a BEAST. Sure, Ali is the probably the greatest boxer ever, but those guys couldn't hold a candle to nowadays boxers, who are so much stronger and quicker. |
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...Also, Lewis would tear Iron Mike apart with his jab, he's like 7 inches taller. Just because Mike is "crazy" and has so much power, doesn't mean he could take out all of the great boxers of our time.
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Originally Posted by Newt
Look, if Tyson wasn't INSANE and could keep his hand and dick to himself then we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
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IMO, a 21yo Tyson WHOOPS on Lewis. thats my opinion, and i'm stickin' to it.
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
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I believe he went downhill when he got together with that idiot Robin Givens and hooked up with Don King. |
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Originally Posted by devildog88
Tyson was a dumb ass wasn't he. He said and did some shit that was unreal. But he was strong as hell!
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Originally Posted by musclepump
Lennox Lewis is a bitch. Barely escaped Klitschko and won't fight him again.
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Originally Posted by naturaltan
Most entertaining was Big George for sure. With the quality of heavyweight boxers today, he could probably best a few of them.
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
At 56 I doubt it but I would love to see him try.
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Originally Posted by naturaltan
In reality, maybe not ... but there has been a real storage of heavyweight talent.
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Originally Posted by goandykid
The fact that Roy Jones doesn't even get a nomination is pathetic.
Best lb for lb fighter of all time. Ofcourse, I'm assuming that he was in the same class, he went from middleweight to heavyweight, but i think it was light or middle heavyweight, correct me if im wrong. Ali and Rocky should and will go down as the best fighters of all time, not Tyson, not Louis, and not Foreman. I honestly think Roy Jones JR. is one of the best ever tho. |
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
I think we all know even at 56 George could KO Ruiz.....
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Roy was very good, but he is not the #1 pound for pound. If he fought Lenox Lewis and won ( and didn't get KO'd in his next 2 out of 3) he might be on the list.
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To say Roy Jones' name is engraved in the history books would be an under statement.
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Originally Posted by goandykid
I think you forget the size differential there. If Roy was the same size as Lennox Lewis, it wouldn't even be a fair fight, just a massacre. Roy was so damn good, he dominated middleweight so badly he moved into heavyweight and still took both the IBF and w/e the other title is. Anyone who watched the 1996(?) olympics knows he was completely robbed, especially seeing as how theyv done things on it since and how he should have won. Just saying, I think Roy Jones Jr. definately deserves ATLEAST a nomination.
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Originally Posted by Curlingcadys
well this thread is the greatest heavy weights so no Roy shouldn't be on the list he got his heavy weight title from a chump, but speaking in terms of lb for lb he's with out a doubt in the top 3 thats a no brainer even if you know very little about boxing, you could read the list of accomplishments and there is only 2 or 3 others than have done what he's done.... EVER, and in strictly my opinion out of that list he did it better.
To say Roy Jones' name is engraved in the history books would be an under statement. |
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Originally Posted by Curlingcadys
well this thread is the greatest heavy weights so no Roy shouldn't be on the list he got his heavy weight title from a chump, but speaking in terms of lb for lb he's with out a doubt in the top 3 thats a no brainer even if you know very little about boxing, you could read the list of accomplishments and there is only 2 or 3 others than have done what he's done.... EVER, and in strictly my opinion out of that list he did it better.
To say Roy Jones' name is engraved in the history books would be an under statement. |
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
First of all, Roy fought in the 1988 Olympics not in 1996. And he was the best light-heavy ever, but he only fought 1 heavy weight and Ruiz is the Bum of Bums.
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Originally Posted by goandykid
wooooooaaaah there, he fought alot more than 1 heavyweight. Ruiz was just the most well-known and I think that was the only heavyweight title fight.
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Originally Posted by goandykid
my bad, I was thinking/including light heavyweight bouts, Ruiz was the only true Heavyweight, who he beat to capture the WBA title
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Ok name the other Heavyweights he fought................Oops there 0.
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Kind of ironic. But I sappose I wouldn't want to end my career on a bad note either but come on now lets use some common sense..
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Originally Posted by Curlingcadys
yeah I thought Ruiz was the only one too, I got his career on dvd I'll have to watch it again and see but I thought he fought Ruiz, took his title after he gave him a boxing lesson and I thought he gave it up afterwards....
haha, who else thinks its a bit comical, whether you like Roy or not, that he wants to fight the winner of the johnson vs tarver fight this summer? Kind of ironic. But I sappose I wouldn't want to end my career on a bad note either but come on now lets use some common sense.. |
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Originally Posted by Curlingcadys
yeah I thought Ruiz was the only one too, I got his career on dvd I'll have to watch it again and see but I thought he fought Ruiz, took his title after he gave him a boxing lesson and I thought he gave it up afterwards....
haha, who else thinks its a bit comical, whether you like Roy or not, that he wants to fight the winner of the johnson vs tarver fight this summer? Kind of ironic. But I sappose I wouldn't want to end my career on a bad note either but come on now lets use some common sense.. |
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Originally Posted by goandykid
and curlingcadys, u said u have his career on dvd? Where do you buy something like that, and hows the dvd itself? is it that post career crap or actually something fun to watch? id like to know if its something worth buying, and which one , thanks
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Originally Posted by goandykid
and curlingcadys, u said u have his career on dvd? Where do you buy something like that, and hows the dvd itself? is it that post career crap or actually something fun to watch? id like to know if its something worth buying, and which one , thanks
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Originally Posted by goandykid
eh, tarver owes him the rematch.
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Originally Posted by Curlingcadys
ahh debateable i'd say tarver should be 2-0 over Roy even though I'm a bigger Roy fan, but for the sake of certainty I'd say tarver should do it if he can get passed johnson, which I think he can, just to remove all doubt. If they do fight again I think it'll be even quicker! haha Roy needs to just call it good.
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
I hate Roy more than any boxing fan I know, but the first fight with Tarver, Roy won...I hate to say that but it's true. Tarver could have won but he let to many rounds slip away. But the second fight was the bomb, 2nd round KO.
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Originally Posted by Curlingcadys
why you hate good ol roy? His ego? Allthough he more than backed up his big head his trash talking does get a little anoying..
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
I love the fighters not the boxers, thats all. Ali could box like no other Heavy ever but he could take a punch like no heavy ever and he closed the deal with a KO many a time. Roy ran too much for me, just like sugar Ray Lenord Jr.
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Originally Posted by musclepump
Lennox Lewis is a bitch. Barely escaped Klitschko and won't fight him again.
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