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Posted by: crimsondestinyx

Does anyone here ever train til failure? I do. Would it be better not to? I lift a lot less when I train til failure though to give my muscles ample time to heal.



Posted by: soxmuscle

I train to failure.



Posted by: Duncans Donuts

I train to failure



Posted by: titans1854

so do i



Posted by: crimsondestinyx

my workouts don't usually last 30 mins, LOL!!!



Posted by: PreMier

I train a few reps shy of failure.



Posted by: LAM

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
I train a few reps shy of failure.
I do the same most of the time...



Posted by: soxmuscle

PreMier, LAM -- Why would you guys choose to not give it your all on each and every set and go to utter failure?



Posted by: LAM

Quote:
Originally Posted by soxmuscle
PreMier, LAM -- Why would you guys choose to not give it your all on each and every set and go to utter failure?
I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...



Posted by: soxmuscle

Quote:
Originally Posted by LAM
I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...
I see.



Posted by: PreMier

Quote:
Originally Posted by LAM
I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...
As do I. Not to mention that if I dont train to 'utter failure', doesnt mean I dont train with intensity or give it my all..

You dont have to go to failure for hypertrophy to occur.



Posted by: soxmuscle

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
As do I. Not to mention that if I dont train to 'utter failure', doesnt mean I dont train with intensity or give it my all..

You dont have to go to failure for hypertrophy to occur.
Okay.



Posted by: Tha Don

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
As do I. Not to mention that if I dont train to 'utter failure', doesnt mean I dont train with intensity or give it my all..

You dont have to go to failure for hypertrophy to occur.
so whats the secret to getting results training shy of failiure?



Posted by: crimsondestinyx

speed



Posted by: Flex

Quote:
Originally Posted by LAM
I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...
so if you don't have a spotter you'll get hurt? The only exercise i need a spotter on while going to failure is benchin'.



Posted by: Witmaster

Quote:
Originally Posted by LAM
I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...
If I have a spotter I train to failure. If I don't have a spotter I usually train with dumb bells as my odds of survival are a little better if I hit failure in the middle of a rep



Posted by: CowPimp

Traditionally, in the past, I trained to failure, or maybe one repetition shy, on every working set I did. Lately I have been trying the cumulative fatigure approach, and I really enjoy it. That is, I try to match the same weight and number of repetitions on all sets for the same exercise. Basically, I try to hit failure on the last set I do with the exercise. It allows me to condition myself more, therefore increasing my GPP, while simultaneously giving my CNS some leeway.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

I think as I start over again in Jan I will not train to failure anymore but rather hit it as you just said CowPimp. I'm worried about getting injured again and at 45 it takes waaaaaaaay too long to heal. I didn't notice a bicep injury as it occured and kept on going. I am now 4 months later ready to start over. I will not do anything to lose that kind of time ever again. It sucked.



Posted by: PreMier

Quote:
Originally Posted by young d
so whats the secret to getting results training shy of failiure?
I dont understand your question? I train for hypertrophy(6-9reps). Sometimes I will mis judge, and fail on a set though.



Posted by: BritChick

I train to failure except on incline leg press without a spot because sometimes what comes down doesn't necessarily go back up! I've been pinned before.



Posted by: LAM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flex
so if you don't have a spotter you'll get hurt? The only exercise i need a spotter on while going to failure is benchin'.
I guess I mistated that. I don't train to failure on any pressing movements...



Posted by: gopro

Failure = Success

Weird



Posted by: DeadBolt

Quote:
Originally Posted by CowPimp
Traditionally, in the past, I trained to failure, or maybe one repetition shy, on every working set I did. Lately I have been trying the cumulative fatigure approach, and I really enjoy it. That is, I try to match the same weight and number of repetitions on all sets for the same exercise. Basically, I try to hit failure on the last set I do with the exercise. It allows me to condition myself more, therefore increasing my GPP, while simultaneously giving my CNS some leeway.
Ya beat me to it CP...I was gonna use this as an example as well...I need to hit the boards more often you beat me to all the good posts LOL.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopro
Failure = Success

Weird




Posted by: Seanp156

I don't purposely but I have 2 times, once while DB Benching, and other doing bench press on the smith machine (Smith sucks ass if you fail w/o a spotter...)



Posted by: DeadBolt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seanp156
I don't purposely but I have 2 times, once while DB Benching, and other doing bench press on the smith machine (Smith sucks ass if you fail w/o a spotter...)
A)why are you benching on a smith?
B)just spin the bar and it locks into place...easiest thing to bench on without a spotter...getting stuck under a oly BB with some lbs on there is another story...that sux.



Posted by: BigDyl

Training to failure is ironic if you think about it; your training until you fail.




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