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My new PT workout - I'm confused.

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Posted by: kim

I will like to have some clarifications on my new training that my PT gave me. Quick history for me. I started bodybuilding since 1 year, stat 5'6" - 160 pounds - BF% around 30%. I end my cut 11 months later at 120.8 pounds - BF 13.7% (omrom). I did never higher any personal trainer's till now. While I was training during those 11 months, I cycle my training, so meaning sometimes I was working into the rep range of 4-6 reps, sometimes 12-10-8-6 and sometimes 8-10 rep ranges. While training sometimes I used differents methods, as suppersetting, drop set, low eccentrict, pre-exhausthing, etc.......

I did developpe some nice muscles for 11 months, So now I decided to end up my cut, because there were no reason for me trying to get my BF% lower, no special event.

So I higher a PT for the first time, explaining him that now I'm looking to add some lbm.

I am confuse right now with his program and I'm just wondering what is his mean goal buy writting me this kind of program.

So here are some example for it:

Workout - hamstring

Leg press: 4 x 15
Lying leg curl (2 legs): 5 x 20-12-8-8-12 - supperset with-
Lying leg curl (1 leg): 3 x 8-8-8
Standing leg curl : 3 x 12-12-12
Stiff leg deadlift: 4 x 12-12-12-12

Workout - Chest

Dumbel press: 4 x 15-12-8-8
Pec Deck Fly machine: 5 x 15-(3x8)-15
Upper Chest machine: 4 x 12-8-8-12
Dips (assisted) 3 x 10-10-10

Workout - Back

Chin-up (4 positions): 4 x 10-10-10-10
Lat pull down (front) 4 x 15.12-8-8
Lat pulldown (close grip): 4 x 12-8-(8-4)-12
Rowing machine (3position grip) 3 x 12-12-12
Rowing machine again 3 position grip but keeping my shoulder's back and really contract: 3 x 8-8-8

Here are some few workout that he wrote for me:

Now my confusion is:

Why getting my self again with 15 reps for the pec dec fly when I already work it before with the dumbell press with 4 sets of 15-12-8-8.
See what I mean or what I don't understand.

It seem that the way he design my workout I oftenly go into the 15 reps scheme and as low at 8.

I think or though that there is no need for me to go sometimes with 15 reps or sometimes too, with some 12 reps.

And I know too that sometimes, it is good to give a week or too to some higher reps with lower reps, low rest, can be 20-15-12 question of giving a little break too to our body's and not going through real failure.

As well I'm finding that there are alot of sets in some of his training, as example:

Back workout give me: 20 sets
Shoulder's workout give me: 16 sets.

From now his workout keep me in the gym for at least 1h30 minutes and sometimes I stop training at 1h30 times because I'm exhausted. I think too that more is not always the better as well.

I would like to have some feedback of what he gaves me and what you are thinking.

Thank's in advance

Posted by: ponyboy

Your trainer should be able to tell you exactly why you are doing everything - have you asked him/her? If they can't answer you with a solid answer, find another trainer. That workout scheme looks pretty cookie cutter to me.

If you want to add LBM your diet is going to be just as important if not more so than your workouts, especially if you already have a low BF level.

Posted by: gopro

With the amount of sets this trainer prescribes, it seems impossible to me that you would ever recover enough to grow any new muscle.

Posted by: kim

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Originally Posted by gopro

With the amount of sets this trainer prescribes, it seems impossible to me that you would ever recover enough to grow any new muscle.

Thank's Gopro for your thoughts. I was really looking for someone to tell me the samething. That workout kept me to the gym for more then 1h30 minutes sometimes, it is killing me and I am pretty exhausted. There is no way I'll be able to train with such high volume and keep a great intensity.

I higher this guys because I thought he will help me 1000 times, and because he will be competing in BB competition next May 2005. I know he trains 3 hours in a row at the gym and he takes some gear. Now I know it, but I was definitvly thinking that his approach FOR ME, was wrong.

A month's ago I begin to workout your P/RR/SS program and I just love it and I just don't know why the hell I do higher a PT who's thought seem to be, it's my way or no way.

Anyhow I will cut some sets from his program or go back on P/RR/SS

Thank's for stopping by.

Posted by: WilliamB

Got to love the broken english brought to you by the Canadians.

Posted by: simbh

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Originally Posted by WilliamB

Got to love the broken english brought to you by the Canadians.

At least shes doing her best. Id love to see you speak french . Care to try ? On the other hand , try typing first , and then if youre any good , try to speak it .

Posted by: JLB001

Craig and I have switched over to a 3 day split using 3 sets of 8 to 10 reps. When I go pre comp, that usually changes back to a 5 day split with 4 sets of 12 to 15.

Posted by: kim

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Originally Posted by simbh

At least shes doing her best. Id love to see you speak french . Care to try ? On the other hand , try typing first , and then if youre any good , try to speak it .

I'm doing my best with my english that's all what I can said and I don't mind if people laugh at me, cause I'm able to laugh at my self too

When in life we want something deeply there is no barrier, difference is the beauty of life.

Posted by: kim

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Originally Posted by JLB001

Craig and I have switched over to a 3 day split using 3 sets of 8 to 10 reps. When I go pre comp, that usually changes back to a 5 day split with 4 sets of 12 to 15.

JLB, Thank's so much for your imput, you know when you work all this like a big girl and no coach and reading so much on the net, and there is so different thinking's, that sometimes it can confuse me even more. Where is your best link for me to see how Graig is training you, at least I could see how he makes you work.

Thousands thank's for your imput

Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by kim

There is an old saying that I'm sure you have heard: "Don't fix it if it ain't broke!" If you are on P/RR/S and loving it (or if you were on any program that you were doing well on) there is no reason to switch.

I hopped in this thread simply b/c I would hate to see you wasting your time on something that would not produce and results for you...and to make matters worse, you are paying for it!

Posted by: kim

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Originally Posted by gopro

Thank's so much.

Posted by: gopro

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Originally Posted by kim

Thank's so much.

Anytime!

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