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what alternative to needles?

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Posted by: fireball

trying to do some research on gear before i get going. but there are so many things out there i do not know where to start. first of all, i hate needles. i know pills kill the kidneys. are there any other options?
i have done a few cycles of 1ad and not getting the results anymore. any of you guys have any suggestions?
5'6" 150# 32y/o


Posted by: gococksDJS

After you inject the first time, the rest will be easy as hell. After you start seeing the results, you will look forward to shooting.


Posted by: Mudge

Sure, find some cheap liver donors and you can run orals forever.

Weight gain results come from diet, hormones only help the anabolic state be more than your natural anabolic state.


Posted by: LAM

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Originally Posted by fireball
trying to do some research on gear before i get going. but there are so many things out there i do not know where to start. first of all, i hate needles. i know pills kill the kidneys. are there any other options?
i have done a few cycles of 1ad and not getting the results anymore. any of you guys have any suggestions?
5'6" 150# 32y/o
not many people like needles, you have to suck it up. it looks at lot worse than it is. injections are quick and easy, mostly painless depending on your gear. and when you are using 25's, you can't even feel those things...

you won't get the same results with orals because your options are limited and most orals are mild when it comes to anabolic and androgenic properties. and running cycles with multiple 17aa's is surely not a good idea for the liver. then you have to look at the bioavailibitiy of orals vs injectables. it's a no brainer...


Posted by: JerseyDevil

Most, if not all of us were scared to do the first injection. I was literally shaking doing my first. But like LAM said, if you use a 25g pin you don't feel a damn thing. After a few injections, you won't think a thing about it. Orals should never be used as a standalone, they are best used to 'jumpstart' a cycle.


Posted by: fireball

i did not know i could use a needle that small. do you guys have any suggestions as to which gear to start off on?


Posted by: Mudge

I never had a needle fetish, but it gets the shit done.

If you are too pussy to accept that, then dont fuck with your health in the first place. I dont think I'd feel too good about my choices when I discovered I had liver cancer or dead kidneys, enlarged heart or you name it. You have a lot of things to watch. That is my honest, no BS opinion. Not meant to be offensive but the hard truth.

Test is best, for starters and as a base.


Posted by: gococksDJS

like the old saying goes "If your not ready to inject, your not ready for AAS's"


Posted by: bigsampson

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS
like the old saying goes "If your not ready to inject, your not ready for AAS's"
couldn't have said it better myself.


Posted by: 1PumpedChump

You could do transdermals, but the only way you'll ever be able to grow from your normal natural anabolic genetical state is to inject...plain and simple.

To put it into an automotive aspect...

Putting a set of carbs and headers to a V8 might get you a few ponies, but changing the internal parts of the motor will provide you with the real HP. It depends on how much you want to invest and the time you put into it.

Just my piece of crap .02


Posted by: Mudge

Transdermals = Rochester Q jet
Injectables = Disc type fuel injection


Posted by: gococksDJS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Transdermals = Rochester Q jet
Injectables = Disc type fuel injection
haha, i like the car analogies. How about transdermals=a girl who doesn't swallow. Injectables=a girl who swallows.


Posted by: bigsampson

LOL anyone know anything about these transdermals around. I have seen them, but haven't heard any feedback.


Posted by: LAM

the bioavailability of them sucks as compared to inj...


Posted by: I'm Trying

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Transdermals = Rochester Q jet
Injectables = Disc type fuel injection



Posted by: Pirate!

Quote:
Originally Posted by gococksDJS
haha, i like the car analogies. How about transdermals=a girl who doesn't swallow. Injectables=a girl who swallows.
You think highly of transdermals then. I'd say:

Trandermals =

IM =


Posted by: Mudge

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Originally Posted by bigsampson
LOL anyone know anything about these transdermals around. I have seen them, but haven't heard any feedback.
More likely you would make them yourself. It would be interesting to see a person cater to the trandsermal crowd with illegal compounds. Tren used to be done DMSO by some folks, but tren is already somewhat expensive when you run even modest doses, comapred to testosterone which is cheap like dirt. Tren is great stuff though, for sure. But when you are getting about 50% of it through your stinky ass slime on your arm, I just dont see getting as excited about it.

If you are going to risk being a felon, would you do a years time in jail telling everyone you got busted for some gel on your arm?

Obviously none of us want those things to happen, we dont want to do time, but I just dont see the connection between someone taking what in reality are RISKS with the law, and "hey guys can I just eat candy or put some gel on my skin?"

You aren't playing with Sweet Tarts here. You are looking at playing doctor with your body, using drugs that can get you busted, or can ruin your health if you are careless with them.


Posted by: fireball

so where can i go to find some info on which gear to start with?


Posted by: Mudge

Search up on testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate, thats a good one to start with.


Posted by: fireball

thanks! will do.


Posted by: godfather

I will not ask for sources


Posted by: RipItSick401

my first was Sustanon 250

definatly a good experience


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