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How to switch from Adex to Nolvadex?

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Posted by: TrojanMan60563

Ok my cycle ended early because I was getting blood pressures up to 174/105 in the morning times, and felt like ass all day long. I've gained 20lbs in the 6 weeks I was on, but could not stand the way I felt so I've stopped my 500mg Test E and 400mg Deca cycle. I stopped taking the .5mg EOD of Adex the same time I stopped the juice...but over the past two weeks is when my blood pressure has hit its peak and the bloat got worse. I assume because more test was being converted over to estrogen. So a few days ago I started the Adex back up at .5mg ED instead of EOD. And my pressure is back down to around 145/80. I can live with these numbers and I feel way better. So I should be starting my Nolvadex for PCT about now and I am not sure if I switch to Nolvadex will it help keep the pressure down? How can I switch to nolva from Adex without having estrogen take over again?



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

any thoughts or opinions here? I need to start the Nolva ASAP.



Posted by: Mudge

If you want to start it then start it, with blood pressure like that POST CYCLE I am supprised you dont watch it several times a day.



Posted by: Pirate!

Just go right into nolva and drop the Dex. Did you run any HCG? Stopping the Deca and test at the same time could lead to atrophy in the next few weeks. The Deca sticks around for a while.



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

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Originally Posted by Mudge
If you want to start it then start it, with blood pressure like that POST CYCLE I am supprised you dont watch it several times a day.
I do monitor it like 3 times a day. It got the highest after stopping the cycle and the Adex...So I went back on Adex and brought it back down....I want to start my PCT of Nolva to get the boys up to working again.



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell
Just go right into nolva and drop the Dex. Did you run any HCG? Stopping the Deca and test at the same time could lead to atrophy in the next few weeks. The Deca sticks around for a while.
I didn't run any HCG only because I was only on for 5 weeks total...I didn't think it was worth it....my boys are the same size as when I started so figured they havn't shrunk any so the HCG wouldn't be needed during my PCT.



Posted by: ZECH

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
I didn't run any HCG only because I was only on for 5 weeks total...I didn't think it was worth it....my boys are the same size as when I started so figured they havn't shrunk any so the HCG wouldn't be needed during my PCT.
Even so, LH is suppressed and HCG makes it repond better and Test levels rise quicker as a result.

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Posted by: Pirate!

A few shots of HCG would have been nice, but if you are already in pct, then it is too late. I don't think my nuts could handle all that deca and test without atrophy. I would drop the Dex altogether if you haven't had a shot in over two weeks. Being that the Test left your system before the Deca, I wouldn't be surprised if it takes you some time to be at full steam again. Good Luck, Bro. Sounds like you should spend the next three months getting the diet right and cutting the fat down without androgens. It is amazing how much bf effects blood pressure. A 31 yr old guy I know just had a mild heart attack the other day. His bp was at 180 when he got to the hospital. He was sleeping when he had the attack. He recently finished a Test E pct and is probably at least 28% bf.



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

Yeah Pirate I am not going to cycle again until I am in the single digits...or very close to it...that is a promise I've made to myself because my putting my health at more risk then it needs to be is foolish. Obviously any cycle puts you at some risk, but doing it while BF is high is just asking for issues....so until my health is in TOTAL check and BF is down I am not touching another steroid. I'm going to perfect my diet and training some more while I get myself where I need to be to cycle again.



Posted by: Pirate!

Glad to hear it. Health should come first. I'd say 12-14% bf is a more realistic goal before starting another cycle. Aren't you at like 22% now? You could also set a goal for your bp before you start again and aim for a lean bulker--not eating much above maintenance--during your next cycle. See what you can do before summer through diet.



Posted by: gococksDJS

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
Yeah Pirate I am not going to cycle again until I am in the single digits...or very close to it...that is a promise I've made to myself because my putting my health at more risk then it needs to be is foolish. Obviously any cycle puts you at some risk, but doing it while BF is high is just asking for issues....so until my health is in TOTAL check and BF is down I am not touching another steroid. I'm going to perfect my diet and training some more while I get myself where I need to be to cycle again.
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Posted by: TrojanMan60563

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell
Glad to hear it. Health should come first. I'd say 12-14% bf is a more realistic goal before starting another cycle. Aren't you at like 22% now? You could also set a goal for your bp before you start again and aim for a lean bulker--not eating much above maintenance--during your next cycle. See what you can do before summer through diet.
Yeah I am going to diet and up the cardio gradually to 2 1 hour sessions until I get down closer to single digit bodyfat. I am around 23% now from what my scale says...it is supposed to be fairly accurate...who knows for sure...I am not going to cycle again until I am a lot lower in BF and my BP is as close to 120/80 as possible.



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